[00:53] Hello. I'm a complete greenhorn looking at the possibility of using Ubuntu Studio for a DAW. Can you recommend a low latency interface of reasonable quality that will work well with Ubuntu Studio? I plan on using software synths, guitar amp simulators and recording voice, so I do not want latency to rear its ugly head ever. [00:55] I'm partial to my Behringer UMC404HD. Hard to go wrong with that or it's siblings. [01:00] I noticed a fella here in this short thread (Forsland) who is getting 2.67 ms latency: https://discourse.ardour.org/t/ardour-jack-settings-for-firewire-interface/103261/2 Is Firewire something that is worth pursuing? Or, is it dead? [01:02] FireWire devices are no longer manufactured. We don’t support them in Ubuntu Studio unless they happen to work with ALSA, which is a crapshoot at best anymore. [01:05] What kind of round trip latency figures are possible with the Behringer UMC line? What about the MOTU M4? or the UR22c? [01:06] Theoretically, you could get as low as 2ms latency with any USB devices. You can go lower with PCI, but that gets expensive. [01:06] how expensive? [01:07] $500 or more. [01:07] Honestly, unless you’re engineering live audio, you don’t need extremely low latency. [01:08] well, I would like to avoid hardware monitoring [01:09] Understood, but the human ear can get used to latency as high as 10-20ms. [01:10] I would like to stay under 8 ms for large, involved, multitrack projects [01:11] That’s completely doable with the right PC and interface. Shutting-off Bluetooth and WiFi are musts, and a dedicated graphics card also offloads some of the CPU power. [01:13] I'm looking at building a computer with a Ryzen 9 3900x, solid state drives, and enough ram, so I should be covered there. You think USB would be good enough to get the job done? [01:14] Definitely. I’ve used USB in live environments. [01:15] Make sure it’s a professional interface though. The run-of-the-mill USB audio cards for <$10 won’t cut it. [01:16] any experience with the MOTU M2 or M4? I saw this review, but I'm not sure if he is using it to do multitrack, full duplex studio work: https://panther.kapsi.fi/posts/2020-02-02_motu_m4 [01:16] Nope. I’ve only used my Behringer and the interface in a Behringer X32/Midas M32. [01:19] Does Behringer actually have a linux driver? The brand seems to be popular with linux users and I noticed they have had Ardour bundled with some of their interfaces in the past [01:20] Are all the class compliant interfaces the same as far as Ubuntu studio is concerned? [01:20] Behringer uses Linux in their consoles. I just told you that I have used Behringer with my setup. [01:21] In Linux, much like Mac, there are no drivers mostly. Things just work. [01:22] All class compliant devices should work natively. [01:24] can any of the interfaces with dsp be capitalized on in Ubuntu Studio? In other words, can the onboard DSP be utilized? [01:26] Do you mean, like, using the DSP as if it were the PC’s DSP? [01:28] I mean like the DSP onboard the Yamaha UR22c for example. It is used for mixing, amp simulation, reverb, compression etc. Mostly for monitor mixing [01:29] That would be something where the manufacturer would have to supply a driver and software. We don’t support anything outside of the Ubuntu repositories. [01:31] As someone who is unfamiliar with linux, and wants the most trouble free experience, is their any key advice you can give me for building a linux DAW. I'm concerned I might be over my head with linux. [01:32] I can slap syntax into a CLI, but that's about it [01:32] You have nothing to lose by just trying it. You don’t even have to install it. [01:33] true true true. Thank you so much for your valuable time sir [01:33] Glad to help. [02:00] the xr16/18 can have the dsp controled by linux [02:00] the x32/m32 can as well. [02:01] The A & H QU series can be controled by linux (and the new one but it is 96k only) [02:01] the MOTU avb series can be controled by linux as well [02:02] basically anything that can be controled by OSB, midi or broswer will work. [04:17] I am trying to create a virtual microphone, which takes desktop application sound, along with a real microphone sound, and output them into the virtual microphone, into my web conferencing (Jitsi). This is all on Ubuntu/Linux. [04:46] Goop: So you're just trying to loop sound out back to an input source, right? [04:47] Right [04:47] StevenJayCohen, yes. I am trying to combine both application sound and microphone sound with the input source. [04:48] So, a simple loopback [04:48] https://askubuntu.com/questions/257992/how-can-i-use-pulseaudio-virtual-audio-streams-to-play-music-over-skype