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-queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Upgrade Kubuntu amd64 [Focal Final] (20200420) has been added10:15
BluesKajHowdy all10:34
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> Do you have notes for me to make a Kubuntu 20.04 video?14:41
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @MichaelTunnell, Like? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu14:44
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> Yes and what do you think is the most exciting difference between 18.04 and 19.10?14:51
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Honestly, Plasma overall is just so much better14:52
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Most things are really just improved overall. Incrementally as KDE tends to do14:53
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @DarinMiller what are you typing? lol14:57
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Michael, there are literally thousands of updates since 18.04.  Sys settings UI is polished and much more consistent from one category to the next.  Wayland support is much better (including monitor rotation and individual scale per screen, etc) but it not quite ready for everyone (especially NVidia users).  The desktop settings icon/hamburger has been moved to the desktop right click menu (customize layout).15:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Notifications have been stream-lined and behavior/presentation has been refined (timeout indicator circling the close icon, better grouping).15:04
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> I know a lot has been changed but I want to know what you consider the most exciting. This is for the Kubuntu 20.04 release video and I am just curious if anything pops out that you want to make sure is included in the video. … notifications changes is a big one to include for sure15:06
IrcsomeBot<X> Sound Indicator in the taskbar?15:08
IrcsomeBot<X> Native night color support for X.org15:09
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I think Night Color was added after 18.04 (but I don't use it).  Many of the papercuts or inconsistencies have been addressed, so individually they seem trivial, but from an overall experience, everything has the next level of polish.15:09
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Good point X. Managing sound per device and application is much improved and very intuitive for setting defaults.15:10
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ^via the speaker icon in the panel.15:10
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> ok cool thanks for the input16:15
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> should I include stock footage of a random bug walking around on a dirty laptop?16:16
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am not familiar with "the bug walking around on a dirty laptop" reference.16:20
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> this was the release video from KDE about 5.18 … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVJUOWko9816:23
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> its a wonderful example of how not to make videos16:24
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> Kubuntu release notes it says latte dock updated, is latte dock installed by default?16:29
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Oh, that video.  I was not overly impressed with that video, either...16:30
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> @DarinMiller, honestly most of their videos these days are kind of bad because they use so much stock footage its just weak . . . their latest dolphin video uses stock footage of a macbook like come on people16:30
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @MichaelTunnell, No16:31
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> their contest winner video was pretty good but thats because they had nothing to do with making it lol . . . ha got em16:31
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> @RikMills, maybe it should be next time :D16:31
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> not used by default, just installed I mean16:31
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @MichaelTunnell, Maybe an option for 20.1016:32
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @MichaelTunnell, It would be nice if right click,  add panel, included a latte config at some point16:34
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> if the user types "latte" in krunner, "get latte" is the top option and launches Discover, Latte selected giving the user the option to install.  This behavior would be great to demo in the video.16:34
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> @RikMills, very much agreed! … I think latte is fantastic and making it easy to get started with would be a very good feature to have. … at this point I prefer Latte Dock entirely over the default plasma panels so I would highly recommend using it at least in an easy way to get started with it16:35
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> @DarinMiller, ok so first, I think Latte should already be there so that doesn't solve that part. … second, that is a cool feature of plasma in regards to including that in the video so great idea, will do :D16:37
IrcsomeBot<MichaelTunnell> which do you think should get more focus in the video? … 20.04 vs 18.04 … 20.04 vs 19.10 … or a mix of both?16:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I think people who already venture into the short term releases will be aware of progressive changes.  Thus, I think convincing current 18.04 LTS users would be a "better" target.16:42
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/focal-fossa-20-04-lts-final-release-status-tracking/15366/319:14
-queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421)20:05
RikMillsnew ISO spin, but expect another tomorrow20:13
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> So wait until tomorrow to for further install testing?21:19
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @DarinMiller, Todays has some Ubiquity fixes. Should not impact us, but you never know with unintended consequences. if left to test until Wed PM, any unexpected regression would be a more rushed fix.21:36
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> So if you have the time to test and don't mind, would be good.21:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, zsync'ing now21:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Ctrl-c to skip disk check worked today! :)21:46
mparilloIt's nice when your pet bug is resolved.21:47
mparillozsyncing, but do I read correctly that new ISOs are coming tomorrow? In the morning GMT?22:11
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Correct new ISO's expected tomorrow.  Rik just wanted a quick test to ensure something silly was not broken with last round of updates.... and they're not.  Live session and full disk install was flawless.22:12
mparilloThanks. Well less to zsync tomorrow morning I guess.22:15

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