[00:54] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T131: Version Number in Plymouth?] JacobSawicki (Jacob Sawicki) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T131#3320
[05:54] -lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL688bf0a06d53: Update text-flow.png] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL688bf0a06d53
[06:27] <guiverc> wxl kc2bez tsimonq2 etc, everyone happy with https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ or testing done?
[08:24] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (focal-proposed) [20.04.8]
[10:15] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Upgrade Lubuntu amd64 [Focal Final] (20200420) has been added
[10:40] <lubot> <kc2bez> @guiverc [<guiverc> wxl kc2bez tsimonq2 etc, everyone happy with https://phab.lubuntu.me/w …], I think it is good. New iso's are due but I think a spot check on them is all we need. wxl or @tsimonq2  can override me on that thought.
[10:41] <guiverc> Thanks Dan, yeah I saw RikMills mention of new ISOs on quality (or somewhere)...  I haven't done a release-upgrade test (they were done by LeoK)
[10:58] <lubot> <kc2bez> Leok did file a bug on artwork re: upgrade. The wallpaper doesn't change. Otherwise I haven't seen any issues there.
[11:02] <guiverc> I noticed that bug report
[11:55] <lubot> <The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> I tried building it but debuild -b failed], Wxl:
[14:52] <lubot> <MichaelTunnell> what do you think is the most exciting difference between 18.04 and 19.10? … For the video, I know the 18.04 will be LXQt but something else?
[14:57] <lubot> <teward001> @MichaelTunnell [what do you think is the most exciting difference between 18.04 and 19.10? … For …], think you meant 19.10 is LXQt.  18.04 I don't believe is changing DEs?
[14:57] <lubot> <teward001> or do you mean 20.04 and 19.10?
[15:05] <lubot> <MichaelTunnell> @teward001 [think you meant 19.10 is LXQt.  18.04 I don't believe is changing DEs?], difference between 20.04 and both of those is what I am asking. … What do you think is the most exciting beyond LXQt because that part is a guarantee to be included  in the video
[15:05] <lubot> <teward001> ah.  your question was unclear ;)
[15:05] <lubot> <teward001> because as worded it sounded like you were saying 18.04 is LXQt
[15:05] <lubot> <teward001> > For the video, I know the 18.04 will be LXQt but something else?
[15:06] <lubot> <teward001> unless you meant "the differences from 18.04"
[15:06] <lubot> <teward001> :)
[15:12] <lubot> <kc2bez> My potentially biased opinion but from a user standpoint: I think we have reached a point of a dependable and stable DE. 18.10 was really rough around the edges. I think things have had a good and stable progression from there. We still have issues of course, I am aware of that fact. We have started adding some value add things beyond 
[15:12] <lubot> the basics, like the update-notifier. Performance is still good now like 18.04 (albeit on 64bit only).
[15:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @lynorian hey, did you see popey's reply on the snap forum?
[16:02] <lubot> <MichaelTunnell> @kc2bez [My potentially biased opinion but from a user standpoint: I think we have reache …], thank you
[18:33] <wxl> is it just me or is phab/discourse going really slow?
[18:33] <kc2bez> Ok so it didn't
[18:33] <kc2bez> Looks like one way convos here
[18:34] <wxl> ?
[18:34] <kc2bez> TL;DR Level3 routing issues
[18:34] <kc2bez> More info on Telegram
[18:34] <lubot> <MichaelTunnell> https://manual.lubuntu.me
[18:34] <lubot> <kc2bez> @teward001 ^
[18:34] <lubot> <kc2bez> @MichaelTunnell [https://manual.lubuntu.me is not loading for me], The bot just bounced a couple of times too so something isn't square.
[18:34] <wxl> ugh
[18:35] <kc2bez> The bot is going one direction right now
[18:35] <wxl> well we really need to switch to matterbridge
[18:36] <kc2bez> As long as we don't let it convert cat to dog
[18:37] <apt-ghetto> Create a task and in five or ten years...
[18:37] <kc2bez> I think we have a task actually.
[18:38] <wxl> we do. someone just needs to do the work.
[18:39] <kc2bez> Time hasn't been on my side lately, I'll be the last to be critical.
[18:40] <apt-ghetto> Oh: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T124
[18:56] <lubot> <teward001> CONFIRMED to all: there were two major fiber cuts today in the USA affecting cross-US routing and is impacting various sites and resources, including the Lubuntu Infrastructure.
[18:56] <wxl> jaysus
[18:58] <kc2bez> This is why we can't have nice things. 
[20:15] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421)
[20:17] <kc2bez> Another spin is likely to follow this one ^
[21:42] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward001 [CONFIRMED to all: there were two major fiber cuts today in the USA affecting cro …], So wait, they're cutting infra?
[21:43] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Wtf
[21:43] <lubot> <tsimonq2> (I know, just outages, funny the way you worded it tho :P)
[22:29] <kryten> -@tsimonq2: So you did get my message a few days ago that the updated CD Image CSS is ready for deployment, right?  I'm thinking either of us will have to poke the infra dudes until tomorrow latest, because otherwise release frenzy ensues - and then the Lubuntu 20.04 tree looks crappy on release day.
[22:29] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Sure
[23:32] <dpoon> @The_LoudSpeaker Why should lubuntu-desktop touch the boot loader at all?  It's just plopping in some artwork that might be of interest to the bootloader, if that bootloader happens to be GRUB. But it's not necessarily GRUB -- it could be running in a container (in which case there's no bootloader at all) or on a Raspberry Pi (in which case the
[23:32] <dpoon> bootloader isn't GRUB).As far as I know, none of the other desktop environments mess with the boot loader.  In my opinion, neither should lubuntu. At most, the artwork package should Suggest grub | grub-efi.