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callmepkGood morning01:18
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jibelgood morning all05:33
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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:02
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seb128goood morning desktopers!06:27
jibelsalut seb128 06:28
seb128lut jibel, en forme ? journée de test d'ISO en vue ? ;-)06:28
jibelseb128, j'ai commencé hier soir, RAS pour le moment06:29
jibelseb128, et toi ça va?06:29
seb128oui ça va :)06:29
dufluMorning oSoMoN and seb128 06:31
seb128hey duflu, how are you?06:34
dufluseb128, going OK. How goes?06:35
dufluseb128, going OK here. How goes there?06:37
oSoMoNsalut seb128, jibel 06:42
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dufluBack shortly06:44
callmepkhi seb128 06:51
didrocksgood morning06:52
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va?06:54
didrocksça va, et toi oSoMoN ?06:54
oSoMoNbien bien, merci :)06:54
didrockspetite course le matin pour se motiver (mais départ un peu plus tardif que d’habitude)06:54
oSoMoNbonne manière de commencer la journée06:55
marcustomlinsonmorning callmepk duflu jibel oSoMoN seb12807:11
dufluHey marcustomlinson 07:11
seb128lut oSoMoN, didrocks, hey hey callmepk07:11
seb128hey marcustomlinson07:11
seb128how are you?07:11
seb128didrocks, bonne idée ça le sport, je devrais faire ça07:12
didrockssalut seb128 07:12
seb128duflu, I'm doing alright, getting a bit fat, I need to eat less and move more :-/07:12
didrocksouais, ça permet de se mettre en bonnes conditions :)07:12
marcustomlinsonseb128: I'm alright thanks. same story here with eating way too much :/07:13
marcustomlinsonbored + tired - sleep = eat07:14
marcustomlinsonmy wife has been so bored at home that she's been baking every other day07:16
Laneyyo08:03
Laneyhope everyone is testing isos :-)08:04
didrockshey Laney! yep, testing week!08:09
oSoMoNgood morning marcustomlinson, Laney 08:16
seb128hey Laney! how are you?08:18
seb128hum, does anyone feel like having a got at bug #1862553 ?08:21
ubot5bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186255308:21
seb128Robert said it's non trivial/he doesn't understand what's going on and he's busy with other work, I don't think he's going to get it resolved08:21
seb128(that's the 'g-c-c segfaults when trying to add a livepatch account from software-properties'08:22
oSoMoNseb128, I may be able to take a look in the afternoon08:28
seb128oSoMoN, thanks, unsure how your gobject is nowadays but I suspect it's not going to be trivial, the description of  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/423 might give some hints08:30
seb128though that fix from andyrock got merged upstream so seems not enough anymore08:31
seb128but the issue is similar so probably the workaround stopped being good enough for some reasons08:31
Laneyoops sorry!08:42
Laneyhey didrocks oSoMoN seb128!!!!!08:43
seb128hey :)08:43
oSoMoNseb128, my gobject-fu is a bit rusty, but I'll take that as an opportunity to refresh it08:45
seb128oSoMoN, thanks08:49
seb128popey, hey. could you test if the dock update from yesterday is fixing the small icons issue you were seeing? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1869737)09:17
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1869737 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "App icons shrink or disappear after closing an app folder" [High,Incomplete]09:17
didrocksI will be able to file a big in launchpad once it’s stop ooooppsing :/09:19
popeyseb128 on it09:19
KGB-1mutter Simon McVittie 157033 * commented merge request !60 * https://deb.li/kyZC09:19
seb128popey, thanks09:19
KGB-1mutter debian/master Simon McVittie * [merge] merge request !60: d/p: Fallback to closed laptop lid configuration if no other available * https://deb.li/Nf8d09:19
popeydidrocks yeah, had a bunch of community people complain that filing bugs is problematic because launchpad 'crashes' all the time :(09:20
didrockspopey: it seems to depend against which components you file it against09:22
didrocksI tried to file one 5 times directly against partman -> nothing09:22
didrocksthen filed against ubiquity and retargeted on partman -> works09:23
didrockswho knows :p09:23
popeyseb128 left a comment09:34
seb128popey, thanks!09:35
WimpressMorning desktoppers09:53
KGB-2mutter debian/master Simon McVittie * [open] merge request !61: WIP: Update from upstream gnome-3-36 branch, up to 3.36.1-42-gda9eb4718 * https://deb.li/zpvn09:54
marcustomlinsonhey Wimpress09:55
KGB-2mutter debian/master Simon McVittie * [update] merge request !61: WIP: Update from upstream gnome-3-36 branch, up to 3.36.1-42-gda9eb4718 * https://deb.li/zpvn10:00
KGB-0mutter Marco Trevisan 157069 * commented merge request !61 * https://deb.li/3ccd411:23
KGB-0gnome-shell signed tags 405aeb6 Jeremy Bicha ubuntu/3.36.1-5ubuntu2 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.36.1-5ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/CbJF11:50
KGB-0gnome-shell ubuntu/master 441f4d0 Jeremy Bicha debian/ control control.in * Have gnome-shell-extension-prefs recommend chrome-gnome-shell * https://deb.li/3cnp111:50
KGB-0gnome-shell ubuntu/master eb36019 Jeremy Bicha debian/changelog * releasing package gnome-shell version 3.36.1-5ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/6Bad11:50
jbichaseb128: hi, for bug 1866841 I think it would work best if we demote gnome-shell-extension-prefs to universe before focal release11:57
ubot5bug 1866841 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Move gnome-shell-extension-prefs to universe and add chrome-gnome-shell to its recommends" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186684111:57
seb128jbicha, hey, I've no opinion about it, what is keeping it in main atm?11:58
jbichainertia11:59
jbichaI think source packages in main have their binary packages in main by default11:59
seb128if nothing brings it to main it should show on component mismatch for demotion...12:00
jbichaI don't think so, but adding a universe dependency will12:02
jbichaanyway, I'm going in to work here so I'll be offline for the day12:02
seb128jbicha, ok, I will have a look to what keeps it into main12:03
KGB-0gnome-shell debian/master Simon McVittie * [open] merge request !39: Have gnome-shell-extension-prefs recommend chrome-gnome-shell * https://deb.li/ir7I12:14
KGB-0gnome-shell debian/master Simon McVittie * [merge] merge request !39: Have gnome-shell-extension-prefs recommend chrome-gnome-shell * https://deb.li/ir7I12:14
KGB-1mutter debian/master Simon McVittie * [merge] merge request !61: WIP: Update from upstream gnome-3-36 branch, up to 3.36.1-42-gda9eb4718 * https://deb.li/zpvn12:46
KGB-1mutter pristine-tar 953c199 Simon McVittie mutter_3.36.1+git20200419.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_3.36.1+git20200419.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_3.36.1+git20200419.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3Omce12:46
KGB-1mutter upstream/3.36.x f36c18d Simon McVittie * pushed 43 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/zLhI12:47
KGB-1mutter upstream/3.36.x 17491ba Marco Trevisan (Treviño) src/backends/meta-monitor-config-manager.c * monitor-config-manager: Fallback to closed laptop lid configuration * https://deb.li/3voyA12:47
KGB-1mutter upstream/3.36.x fdcb68f Marco Trevisan (Treviño) src/tests/ monitor-unit-tests.c monitor-configs/lid-scale.xml * monitor-unit-tests: Ensure configuration is preserved in laptop with closed lid * https://deb.li/hN2R12:47
KGB-1mutter upstream/3.36.x 40dc226 Carlos Garnacho src/x11/meta-x11-selection-output-stream.c * x11: XMaxRequestSize returns 4-byte units * https://deb.li/3SlGv12:47
KGB-1mutter upstream/3.36.x 13a23f1 Carlos Garnacho src/x11/meta-x11-selection-output-stream.c * x11: Flag flushes despite having less than the element size * https://deb.li/N4Cz12:47
KGB-1mutter upstream/3.36.x 6ce42e1 Carlos Garnacho src/x11/meta-x11-selection-output-stream.c * x11: Intern INCR atom * https://deb.li/J2vx12:47
KGB-1mutter tags 250dc62 Simon McVittie upstream/3.36.1+git20200419 * Upstream version 3.36.1+git20200419 * https://deb.li/igRMs12:47
KGB-1gnome-shell pristine-tar 28de4c8 Simon McVittie gnome-shell_3.36.1+git20200417.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-shell_3.36.1+git20200417.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-shell_3.36.1+git20200417.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3go6112:48
KGB-1gnome-shell upstream/3.36.x 87fb38d Simon McVittie * pushed 38 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iOlfN12:48
KGB-1gnome-shell upstream/3.36.x dfcc5ff Florian Müllner js/ui/screenShield.js * screenShield: Wake up on deactivate() * https://deb.li/kmy012:48
KGB-1gnome-shell upstream/3.36.x 6d38a4a Rūdolfs Mazurs po/lv.po * Update Latvian translation * https://deb.li/374Z212:49
KGB-1gnome-shell upstream/3.36.x 51e9f19 Jonas Dreßler src/st/st-icon.c * st/icon: Always show empty texture if both gicons are NULL * https://deb.li/eNki12:49
KGB-1gnome-shell upstream/3.36.x 698bd5b Jonas Dreßler src/st/st-icon.c * st/icon: Use a static GIcon for the missing-image icon * https://deb.li/3hLwG12:49
KGB-1gnome-shell upstream/3.36.x aebfab7 Florian Müllner subprojects/extensions-app/data/org.gnome.Extensions.desktop.in.in * extensions-app: Add category in .desktop file * https://deb.li/8loc12:49
KGB-1gnome-shell tags 0c1e241 Simon McVittie upstream/3.36.1+git20200417 * Upstream version 3.36.1+git20200417 * https://deb.li/3alqh12:49
GunnarHjHi igordhossegor, can you please take a look at bug #1874068.13:09
ubot5bug 1874068 in Online publishing of the Ubuntu documentation "help.ubuntu.com/rst doesn't look like an Ubuntu page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187406813:09
jibelwhich app should open debs by default on a desktop?13:20
marcustomlinsonjibel: you mean which app(s) should a deb and not a snap?13:21
jibelmarcustomlinson, yes, like I double-click on a deb, what should start?13:22
jibelcf bug 187365813:22
ubot5bug 1873658 in gdebi (Ubuntu) "Deb Files are not opened by the installer 20.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187365813:22
marcustomlinsonah, should be gnome-software. which has been removed, so now it should open in snap-store13:22
marcustomlinsonkenvandine: ^13:24
marcustomlinsonsnap-store should be the default for opening deb files now hey13:24
kenvandinemarcustomlinson: snap-store opens deb files13:25
marcustomlinsonnot by default it seems13:25
marcustomlinsonwhen I double click a deb it opens in archive manager13:25
kenvandineright click and you'll get another option13:26
marcustomlinsonyeah ok13:26
kenvandinefile-roller also claims it supports debs13:26
jibelsnap-store should have ahigher priority?13:26
kenvandineit should13:26
xnoxmarcustomlinson:  but i see snap-store doesn't declare enough MimeTypes to handle .deb13:27
xnox$ find /snap/snap-store/current -name '*.desktop' | xargs grep MimeType | grep -e deb -e debian13:27
xnoxmarcustomlinson:  doe sit need something like application/vnd.debian.binary-package or application/x-deb ?13:28
xnoxmarcustomlinson:  the way file-roller does13:28
bdmurray /usr/share/applications/defaults.list has vnd.debian.binary-package13:28
bdmurrayand it says "gnome-software-local-file.desktop"13:28
kenvandine /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/snap-store_ubuntu-software-local-file.desktop13:28
kenvandinei'll look at desktop-file-utils13:29
bdmurraythanks!13:29
kenvandineit includes application/x-deb;13:30
kenvandinebut it's not making it to defaults.list13:30
seb128k, it's meeting time13:30
seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-04-2113:31
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didrockshey13:31
jibelo/13:31
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hellsworth\o13:32
seb128k, let's get started and try to keep this one short so we can focus on rls13:32
hellsworth(hi everyone)13:32
KGB-2mutter Marco Trevisan 157121 * commented commit 332628b * https://deb.li/3gHTc13:32
seb128#topic rls-bb-bug13:32
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oSoMoNo/13:32
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:32
seb128no desktop section13:32
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:33
seb128no unassigned one13:33
seb128#topic rls-ee-bug13:33
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:33
seb128no desktop section13:33
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:33
marcustomlinsonoh \o13:34
seb128not unassigned one (the last one is just a component from an assigned bug)13:34
seb128#topic rls-ff-bug13:34
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:35
seb128shorter list this week it seems13:35
seb128bug #186160913:35
ubot5bug 1861609 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "[focal] Xorg crashed with assertion failure (usually in a VM) at [privates.h:121: dixGetPrivateAddr: Assertion `key->initialized' failed] and call stack comes from DRIMoveBuffersHelper" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186160913:35
jibelI cannot reproduce it anymore13:36
seb128I wonder if it maybe got fixed with the new xorg13:37
jibelor it's racy 13:37
seb128no recent duplicate13:37
seb128which is weird since it got several in the weeks before13:37
seb128well, at this point I would vote -notfixing unless we start seing activity again13:38
jibel+1 for notfixing13:38
hellsworthnotfixing13:38
seb128done, thx13:39
seb128bug #187340313:40
ubot5bug 1873403 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Screen turns off when trying to set some fractional scaling values" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187340313:40
seb128tseliot, hey, did you have a chance to look at those issues?13:40
seb128Daniel seems to believe there is still some nvidia/scaling problem13:41
seb128but from the bugs reports/activity I don't see it as a rls stopper atm, I would vote -notfixing13:42
tseliotseb128, no, I haven't tested that, since the problem seems to be solved upstream (in gnome)13:42
seb128tseliot, Daniel still seem to be believe there are issues13:42
Trevinhotseliot: it's not pure gnome, its our patch doing that13:43
Trevinhotseliot: but nvidia issue seems to be there, as it's the only driver affected13:43
Trevinhoand it wasn't in previous releases13:43
tseliotTrevinho, more than the feature itself, I figured the problem had to do with handling RandR events13:44
tseliotI can check in a bit13:44
Trevinhotseliot: I see... 13:44
tseliotbut I'm focussing on LP: #1873867, which is priority n. 1 now13:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1873867 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-drivers changes kernel flavour when installing nvidia" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187386713:45
seb128right13:45
TrevinhoI have nvidia (prime) hw here, I may check it again too, but can't go deeper than X itself13:45
seb128tseliot, bug #1870736 also has some interesting comments from user having issues using the xrandr command directly13:46
ubot5bug 1870736 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Screen scaling 125% gives 200%" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187073613:46
seb128anyway13:46
seb128opinions?13:46
seb128I vote notfixing until we get more details, also sound likely to be a driver issue and we don't control those13:47
didrocksagreed13:47
seb128thx13:47
hellsworthsounds good13:47
seb128k, that's it for incoming13:48
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:48
seb128no unassigned one13:49
seb128#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:49
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seb128https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:49
seb128empty \o/13:49
kenvandineyay13:49
hellsworth!!!13:49
seb128good sign in the week of release :)13:49
seb128#topic AOB13:49
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kenvandineindeed13:49
seb128some notes from me13:49
seb128- it's release week, please help testing the ISO candidates13:50
seb128- keep working on your release bugs, include bug reference in the changelog at this point though since things are likely to be turned into SRU now13:50
seb128- oh, I almost forget but congrats to oSoMoN for getting upload rights for the mozilla set!13:51
didrockscongrats oSoMoN :)13:51
marcustomlinsoncongrats oSoMoN!13:51
kenvandinewoot13:51
hellsworthhorray oSoMoN !13:51
oSoMoNthanks :) 'twas mostly a formality, really13:51
marcustomlinsonoh ok, then nevermind13:51
marcustomlinson;)13:52
seb128:p13:52
oSoMoN(and I'm still waiting to be added to the LP team)13:52
seb128that's it from me13:52
Trevinhocongrats!13:52
seb128any other topic?13:52
seb128seems not, nice and efficient today13:53
hellsworthnothing here13:53
seb128thanks team!13:53
seb128#endmeeting13:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Apr 21 13:53:14 2020 UTC.  13:53
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marcustomlinsonthanks13:53
hellsworththanks!13:53
didrocksthanks!13:53
Trevinhota13:53
oSoMoNthanks13:53
kenvandinebdmurray, jibel: Fix for desktop-file-utils bug 1873658 uploaded13:53
ubot5bug 1873658 in gdebi (Ubuntu) "Deb Files are not opened by the installer 20.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187365813:53
* Trevinho just got a new fingeprint device to play with! :-)13:53
bdmurrayTrevinho: maybe you can look at bug 1865824 then. ;-)13:55
ubot5bug 1865824 in fprintd (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 20.04 removes saved fingerprints" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186582413:55
jibelkenvandine, awesome, thanks!13:55
tseliotTrevinho, the "s(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "NULL" is a little concerning: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/TMkv556gY3/13:55
marcustomlinsonnice one kenvandine13:56
Trevinhobdmurray: actually for that, there's no really too many options, as the format changed so quite sure we can't import those, but I will see what I can do13:56
marcustomlinsonfaster than a speeding bullet13:56
Trevinhotseliot: mhmhm, interesting... do you know whether mutter is trying to set an invalid mode or just the driver not reacting well?13:57
TrevinhoI wish we had more g_debug code in mutter, so that you could just debug that by changing an env variable... -_-13:59
tseliotTrevinho, scaling from the command line works fine. So I assume the code (in mutter?) is passing the wrong mode when setting the scaling14:07
seb128tseliot, it's probably a different issue but did you see e.g https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1870736/comments/25 14:13
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870736 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Screen scaling 125% gives 200%" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:13
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1870736/comments/15 also14:15
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870736 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Screen scaling 125% gives 200%" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:15
seb128Trevinho, ^ unsure if that could be gnome-shell there reacting to the xrandr change and redoing something?14:15
tseliotseb128, I can't really reproduce that here. But that could sure be a problem14:15
seb128tseliot, Trevinho, those reports are too specific though, different persons see different result, difficult to come to a conclusion14:18
seb128we need someone able to reproduce one of the issue and to provide proper debugging14:18
seb128(could be Daniel since he seem to have a machine with problems)14:19
tseliotright14:20
Trevinhoseb128: I saw that comment (25) but that implies that scaling from cmd line doesn't work either, no?14:23
seb128Trevinho, well, some of the previous comments on that bug describe some weird result from the command line, see 15 and 2114:23
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, i saw too14:23
Trevinhoseb128: changing topic, as per the bdmurray mentioned issue (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprintd/+bug/1865824) do you think is worth looking at a migration script?14:24
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1865824 in fprintd (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to 20.04 removes saved fingerprints" [Low,Confirmed]14:24
Trevinhoas it might not be trivial, doable should be though14:24
seb128I wouldn't consider it as a priority at the moment, it's not like we have lot of users who had working hardware for that before and fingerprint is never the only authentification method right? they can always enter their password14:25
Trevinhowondering whether it worth though, given that you still have your fingers with you so re-enroling isn't too bad14:25
Trevinhoyeah, I agree14:26
seb128Trevinho, if they care they can rls-ff-incoming and we discuss it in the next meeting but I don't think it's a priority14:27
Trevinhok14:28
Trevinhoadding, we'll discuss in case14:28
seb128kenvandine, can you rebuild snap-store using that new translations export?  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/475575015/launchpad-export.tar.gz14:34
kenvandineseb128: sure14:36
seb128kenvandine, thanks, also what channel should I use? is beta correct?14:36
kenvandinei'm publishing to beta then releasing to stable/ubuntu-20.0414:37
seb128kenvandine, snap-store from beta abort when I click on the updates tab here :/14:37
seb128abort in gtk_widget_real_map14:37
kenvandineseb128: i fixed that bug last night :)14:37
seb128time for a rebuild with the fix and the translations then :)14:37
kenvandineyup14:37
seb128thx14:38
kenvandinethat crash is in gnome-software too14:38
seb128I wish we could get a debug bt from a snap crash :/14:38
seb128any hint on how to get a proper bt for those?14:38
kenvandineseb128: that's really hard14:41
kenvandinei wish we could too14:41
kenvandineseb128: what revision did you have when it crashed?14:41
seb128kenvandine, 42614:42
kenvandinei know the cause though... there was a snap update in the update list but snapd refreshed it under snap-store14:42
kenvandineand we have no signal to connect that tells us snapd performed the refresh14:42
seb128ah 14:42
seb128I've seen that reported as well14:43
kenvandineyeah14:43
seb128confusing users that things are listed to update but the UI doesn't refresh when snapd does the autorefresh14:43
kenvandineit's a feature robert has been asking for from snapd14:43
kenvandinei actually disabled showing those updates in the updates page14:43
kenvandinesince they will auto refresh anyway14:43
seb128that makes sense14:43
kenvandineand we have no real way to handle this right now14:44
seb128didrocks, jibel, oSoMoN, if you do a french install, does it also pick 'legacy alt' as the default keymap for you?15:10
didrocksseb128: pretty sure it picked an alt one if I select it in isolinux, I always go now on AFNOR azerty though :p I think it picked only french if I select French in the ubiquity-maybe but I need to recheck15:14
didrocks(doing that in next tests, doing OEM right now)15:14
jibelseb128, in the installer or after installation?15:17
jibelah it's a US keyboard :)15:18
bdmurraykenvandine: Did you test / check how the desktop-file-utils change would affect other desktops e.g. xubuntu / lubuntu?15:18
kenvandinebdmurray: good point15:19
bdmurraykenvandine: to be fair it was Laney's point ;-)15:20
didrocksseb128: nope, so far, syslinux or maybe-ubiquity -> select French, all good here (alt keyboard)15:20
kenvandineanyone know how the flavors handle having different defaults?15:21
seb128jibel, didrocks, in the installer15:21
kenvandineWimpress: ^^ do you know?15:22
seb128kenvandine, I don't know, either they don't and follow ours or have some override15:22
kenvandinemust have some override15:22
kenvandinenot all the flavors even ship gnome-software15:22
didrocksseb128: and same if I log into a live session syslinux or maybe-ubiquity -> French -> live: all ok15:22
seb128didrocks, ok, thanks for testing, weird but good to know it's only me15:23
didrocksseb128: but I’m pretty sure you didn’t dream and that I have seen it once (but was unsure, because it’s only when I typed afterwards) that I got only "French" in keyboard, not alt during beta15:23
seb128I wonder if it has to do with the tz, but weird15:23
didrocksso there is something fishy, can’t reproduce though right now15:23
seb128kenvandine, bdmurray, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=defaults.list&mode=exactfilename&suite=focal&arch=any15:24
seb128didrocks, I will try to debug at some point but not a blocker/priority for today15:24
didrocksseb128: even tried syslinux -> keep English but select live -> start ubiquity in live session, select French -> alt keyboard again15:25
seb128didrocks, thx for testing!15:25
didrocksyw :) but I’m sure as well there is something…15:25
didrocksat least, not a high prio, indeed15:26
kenvandineseb128, bdmurray: should be safe then15:29
oSoMoNseb128, late feedback, but the default selected keymap for me is "French - French (alt.)"15:31
seb128oSoMoN, thx15:31
seb128oSoMoN, also good work finding that g-c-c commit!15:31
oSoMoNseb128, I still need to get to the bottom of it, but it's progress15:32
seb128oSoMoN, it's more progress than what Robert got :)15:34
jibelseb128,  it's set to "French - French (legacy, alt)" by default15:34
seb128jibel, you mean in the code of you see that?15:36
jibelseb128, no, in the keyboard page of ubiquity.15:43
seb128jibel, I don't understand why it's not consistant though, Didier & Olivier see (alt) as default15:44
jibelseb128, are you using a french machine or US? mine is US if it makes a difference15:47
seb128jibel, french, it's my xps15:50
didrocksapart from timezone… let me try to cheat in a live session15:51
oSoMoNI've been testing in a VM, fwiw15:52
seb128didrocks, jibel is in France though and oSoMon is not, not likely the tz...15:53
didrocksAH, so going to a live session (english), setting UTC for timezone, start ubiquity -> French keyboard15:53
didrocksnot alt15:53
seb128weird15:53
didrockschanging the tz back to Paris, restarting ubiquity in the same sesion -> still no alt :/15:54
didrocksthis is weird, maybe something was seeded on first run though15:54
didrocksreally something we ought to understand there15:54
jibeldidrocks, you have to restart everything otherwise once it's seeded by ubiquity it won't change15:57
didrocksjibel: I didn’t go to the next page though, I thought it was only when you select next() that the seeding was done15:58
seb128jibel, could you update http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/412/builds/211048/testcases to have16:34
seb128LTS Desktop Upgrade (Xenial) -> LTS Desktop Upgrade (Bionic)16:34
seb128(I guess we want to test upgrades from Bionic now right?)16:34
ricotzhellsworth, hi, please see my MRs at https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/-/merge_requests18:10
ricotzwhile looking at gnome-3-36-1804-sdk, it doesn't track gnome 3.36, but actually 3.34 branches or older18:12
hellsworththanks ricotz !18:51
ricotzhellsworth, thanks, I guess I see what I mean with outdated tags and 3.34 vs 3.36?19:10
kenvandinericotz: the gnome-3-36-1804-sdk branch is just the beginnings of the next build snap, recently branched from gnome-3-34-1804-sdk19:32
kenvandinericotz: never been built, completely new thing19:33
oSoMoNrobert_ancell, I spent some time today looking into bug #1862553, and I shared my findings in comments, hopefully this is useful to find a fix19:44
ubot5bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186255319:44
marcustomlinsonrobert_ancell: 1 hour between our meeting and getting another release bug :P19:51
seb128oSoMoN, robert_ancell, rishi pinged me about something else, I mentioned it to him in case he has a clue19:52
seb128but don't hold on it, he's often busy enough19:52
ricotzkenvandine, ok19:54
oSoMoNseb128, robert_ancell: there's an easy "quick fix" for the crash (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pjmr4dBgSD/), but I suppose that results in a leak, so it's probably not good enough, and my understanding of this code is quite limited19:59
oSoMoNI'm happy to continue looking into it tomorrow if needed though20:00
ricotzseb128, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/187413320:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1874133 in vala (Ubuntu) " [SRU] Update to vala 0.48.4 in focal" [Undecided,New]20:04
seb128oSoMoN, we don't call that code enough for the leak to be an issue but let's see if Robert or Rishi have a better solution20:09
seb128ricotz, ack, I will sponsor that in a bit20:15
ricotzseb128, thanks20:17
oSoMoNgood night all20:30
robert_ancelloh, missed oSoMoN.21:09
robert_ancellugh, terribly written async code21:11
callmepkGood morning23:56

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