jam | morning all | 06:07 |
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jam | hm. mup didn't seem to notice the pr I landed and the other pr I closed. | 06:59 |
mup_ | Issue operator#237 opened: Feature request: helper function/flag to run initial hooks as juju would execute? <Created by Vultaire> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/237> | 07:43 |
mup_ | PR operator#212 closed: Harness: do not emit extra relation changed events <Created by dshcherb> <Closed by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/212> | 07:43 |
mup_ | PR operator#230 closed: Testing harness no events for own data <Created by jameinel> <Merged by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/230> | 07:43 |
niemeyer | Mornings! | 07:43 |
niemeyer | jam: It did, it was just sleeping.. I haven't yet finished the transition that takes it out of my laptop and replaces the global mup | 07:43 |
jam | morning niemeyer | 08:17 |
Chipaca | gooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning! | 08:34 |
niemeyer | \o/ | 08:35 |
Chipaca | I fixed my 'beuno' script to also support not greeting anyone in particular :-D | 08:38 |
jam | Chipaca, my IRC client doesn't understand wide characters, but other apps accept copy & paste :) | 08:43 |
Chipaca | jam: heh. strange irc client. | 08:43 |
jam | Chipaca, reviewing Dispatch now | 08:43 |
Chipaca | jam: ta muchly | 08:44 |
Chipaca | jam: out of curiosity, what client do you use? | 08:52 |
jam | HexChat | 08:52 |
niemeyer | That's why.. you need a client that understand more than hex.. | 08:52 |
niemeyer | understands | 08:52 |
* niemeyer wastes brain cycles thinking of a conversation involving only a-f | 08:53 | |
jam | it is hard to read everything in hex, but eventually you stop seeing the code | 08:53 |
jam | dead beef cafe | 08:53 |
niemeyer | eeaaaa | 08:54 |
Chipaca | jam: I used hexchat as well, and see those characters no problem | 08:55 |
Chipaca | use* | 08:55 |
jam | I think it is probably the font, not sure, though. | 08:55 |
Chipaca | jam: i can also see all of 𝐛𝐨𝐥𝐝, 𝓈𝒸𝓇𝒾𝓅𝓉, 𝓫𝓸𝓵𝓭 𝓼𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓹𝓽, 𝕕𝕠𝕦𝕓𝕝𝕖-𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕦𝕔𝕜, 𝔣𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯, 𝖇𝖔𝖑𝖉 𝖋𝖗𝖆𝖐𝖙𝖚𝖗, 𝑖𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑐, 𝒃𝒐𝒍𝒅 𝒊𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒊𝒄, ꜱᴍᴀʟʟ-ᴄᴀᴘꜱ, 𝚖𝚘𝚗𝚘𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚌𝚎, 𝗌𝖺𝗇𝗌-𝗌𝖾𝗋𝗂𝖿, 𝘀𝗮𝗻𝘀-𝘀𝗲𝗿 | 09:03 |
Chipaca | 𝗶𝗳 𝗯𝗼𝗹𝗱, 𝙨𝙖𝙣𝙨-𝙨𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙛 𝙗𝙤𝙡𝙙 𝙞𝙩𝙖𝙡𝙞𝙘, 𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘴-𝘴𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘧 𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘤, and you already know about fullwidth. | 09:03 |
jam | Chipaca, now you're just showing off, and while I'm trying to review your pr, too. dangerous :) | 09:04 |
* Chipaca did not do the colourised version | 09:05 | |
jam | oddly, I can see "mall-cap" but not the S :) | 09:06 |
Chipaca | jam: in your defense, all these things confuse hexchat to some degree | 09:08 |
Chipaca | just like emoji do | 09:08 |
Chipaca | trying to select them in hexchat for copying is a fun exercise | 09:08 |
Chipaca | (because, unciode widths is a hard problem, as i have mentioned elsewhere) | 09:08 |
Chipaca | also speling unciode | 09:08 |
jam | Chipaca, some things are harder than others :) | 09:11 |
Chipaca | the output of virtualenv -h, at least at version 20, is horrendous | 09:12 |
Chipaca | let's do better than that | 09:12 |
* Chipaca sets the bar low, but it's not an invitation to limbo | 09:13 | |
jam | niemeyer, I think https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/196 is ready for you to look at again, I pulled in the changes from 230 | 09:22 |
mup_ | PR #196: Factor out the Harness changes for test_model.py <Created by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/196> | 09:22 |
jam | Chipaca, a couple of tweaks but overall dispatch lgtm | 09:22 |
jam | Chipaca, any chance you can look at https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/236 | 09:22 |
mup_ | PR #236: ops/log.py: Default to DEBUG logging <Created by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/236> | 09:22 |
jam | it needs a second +1 | 09:22 |
Chipaca | jam: on it | 09:23 |
Chipaca | sorry for the lag, i was going through my notes trying to find the name of the pypi guy | 09:23 |
Chipaca | s/guy/person/ | 09:23 |
jam | niemeyer, is it worth having our 1:1? Or should we cancel it for now and just do our regular standup, etc | 09:53 |
* jam goes to make coffee, bbiab | 09:54 | |
niemeyer | jam: In a call with Tim, but I had something to catch up with you on.. let's try to have it | 09:55 |
jam | ok | 10:01 |
jam | let me know when you're done | 10:01 |
niemeyer | jam: Will do | 10:07 |
niemeyer | jam: I'm off.. | 10:30 |
niemeyer | jam: ... and I'm on | 10:30 |
jam | Chipaca, "diversity of notations around args" you're talking about docstrings? | 10:44 |
jam | Any chance we can actually have a session on that and actually go over the various proposals that you've tried and do something concrete? | 10:44 |
Chipaca | jam: yeah, docstrings. I've got the exploratory work parked, need to get back to it, possibly right after vienna | 10:45 |
Chipaca | jam: just to say, i ain't forgetting :) | 10:45 |
jam | Chipaca, it feels like it would only take 30min or so for us to get a consensus that we could at least write for our next code | 10:45 |
mup_ | Issue operator#198 closed: DEBUG log messages not emitted <bug> <Created by stub42> <Closed by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/198> | 10:46 |
mup_ | PR operator#236 closed: ops/log.py: Default to DEBUG logging <Created by jameinel> <Merged by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/236> | 10:46 |
jam | one thing I really don't prefer about the squash-and-close pattern. It leaves all of my local git branches as "this has not been merged into master" | 10:47 |
jam | even if I "Delete Branch" via the github UX, it doesn't delete them from my disk, or my laptop, etc. | 10:47 |
jam | And 'git branch -d' rightly says "don't delete things that aren't merged" unless you really mean it. | 10:48 |
Chipaca | jam: yep | 10:48 |
Chipaca | agreed on that | 10:48 |
Chipaca | also on the how long it'll take us to agree | 10:48 |
jam | Chipaca, I agree that we should agree | 10:50 |
jam | Chipaca, https://github.com/huntdatacenter/ubuntu-lite/pull/1/files adding a test suite to my 'minimal ubuntu' charm. for huntdatacenter | 10:50 |
mup_ | PR huntdatacenter/ubuntu-lite#1: add testing setup <Created by matuskosut> <Merged by matuskosut> <https://github.com/huntdatacenter/ubuntu-lite/pull/1> | 10:50 |
Chipaca | jam: what's huntdatacenter? | 10:50 |
jam | https://www.ntnu.edu/mh/huntcloud | 10:51 |
jam | They are a site that is using Juju to drive their Openstack | 10:51 |
Chipaca | jam: ah, scientific cloud thing? | 10:51 |
jam | They have https://jujuna.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ | 10:51 |
jam | as a tool for doing CI | 10:51 |
Chipaca | jam: went to the frankfurt sprint? | 10:51 |
jam | Chipaca, yeah, I think so. | 10:51 |
* Chipaca sings jujuna matata | 10:51 | |
jam | for the rest of my days | 10:52 |
jam | Chipaca, they have a form of functional testing, trying to figure out if it is worth pursuing further. | 10:54 |
* Chipaca nods | 10:55 | |
Chipaca | i'm off to make lunch, bbiab | 10:58 |
facubatista | Muy buenos días a todos! | 11:10 |
Chipaca | facubatista: goooooooooooooooooooooooood morning! | 11:50 |
facubatista | Chipaca, hola! :) I do see wide chars in my hexchat (however, not emoji) | 11:51 |
Chipaca | o𝩬 | 11:52 |
Chipaca | sigh | 11:52 |
jam | Chipaca, facubatista coming to daily for bug revue ? | 12:01 |
Chipaca | yep yep | 12:01 |
facubatista | ah, that one? I was about to ask where | 12:01 |
Chipaca | just fighting with google | 12:01 |
* facubatista in login dance | 12:02 | |
mup_ | Issue operator#171 closed: Support for charm class selector <Created by gnuoy> <Closed by niemeyer> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/171> | 12:55 |
Chipaca | alright, i'm going to step away for a while, go for a run, and come back for my afternoon/evening meetings | 14:05 |
Chipaca | (got one rather late in the day today) | 14:05 |
niemeyer | Chipaca: Have fun there | 14:05 |
Chipaca | niemeyer: :) yep | 14:05 |
* facubatista brb | 14:48 | |
* facubatista is back | 14:53 | |
Chipaca | hmmmm | 16:15 |
niemeyer | Agreed | 16:29 |
niemeyer | Oh my.. I thought the charmhub meeting was now | 16:31 |
niemeyer | It was half an hour ago.. | 16:31 |
Chipaca | facubatista: what's the name of the thing you're charming? | 16:54 |
facubatista | mmm | 16:55 |
facubatista | Chipaca, what do you mean with "name"? :p | 16:56 |
facubatista | Chipaca, it's my blog, something that uses Nikola and isso as main tooling, the blog itself is called "Bitácora de Vuelo", here:blog.taniquetil.com.ar/ | 16:56 |
Chipaca | facubatista: "we're each working on example charms: jam:jaeger chipaca:tt-rss facubatista:<> | 16:56 |
Chipaca | " | 16:56 |
Chipaca | <spaceship> | 16:57 |
* Chipaca goes off to make dinner | 18:10 | |
* facubatista eods | 20:45 |
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