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lotuspsychjegood morning00:47
Bashing-om!info ubiquity02:01
ubottuubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 20.04.15 (focal), package size 2860 kB, installed size 17448 kB02:01
CarlFKwhat kernel version should I have after an apt upgrade?  03:01
lotuspsychjeCarlFK: 5.4.0-26-generic03:03
CarlFKlotuspsychje: thanks.  that;s what I thought. 03:04
CarlFKI did this:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1871182/comments/11  03:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1871182 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "[RTL810xE] No ethernet connection" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:06
CarlFKinstall -2503:06
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic03:07
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.26.32 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 17 kB03:07
CarlFKI'm not completely opposed to re-installing but is there some quick thing I can try to get it ?03:07
Bashing-omCarlFK: ^^ " sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?03:08
CarlFKre-installing focal  that is.  this box/install is just to test the wifi 03:08
CarlFKBashing-om: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.03:09
CarlFKapt-cache policy linux-image-generic ... Installed: (none)  Candidate: 5.4.0.26.3203:10
Bashing-omCarlFK: pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '. See if that new kernel is available in your install.03:10
CarlFKBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hdx9Dknfvc/03:12
CarlFKim removing the -2503:13
Bashing-omCarlFK: Huh ?? only partly installed "linux-headers-5.4.0-26" / I wonder why, what is not going on. disk space ' df -h ; df -i ' ?03:14
Bashing-omCarlFK: -25 might be the kernel that you are booting now !!03:14
CarlFKBashing-om: it is.  she'll be all right mate :p 03:16
Bashing-omCarlFK: Hope you have a good plan :P03:16
CarlFKit's like a video game.  If I die, I'll have to start over 03:17
Bashing-omCarlFK: We learn most when we break it and pick up the pieces.03:18
CarlFKwth... apt upgrade... The following packages will be upgraded:   linux-image-unsigned-5.4.0-25-generic03:18
Bashing-omCarlFK: Not a good sign - our kernels are normally signed - yukkie.03:21
CarlFKBashing-om:  did you see the bug report comment about installing -25?03:22
Bashing-omCarlFK: No - did not read it :(03:22
CarlFKthere isn't much to it, other than explain why I installed linux-image-unsigned-5.4.0-25-generic_5.4.0-25.29~lp1871182_amd64.deb03:23
Bashing-omCarlFK: Sorry - I must depart -:(03:26
CarlFKno prob - 03:27
CarlFKsee ya03:27
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danjjlHello, since upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04 (fresh install), the WiFi on my laptop is extremely slow. This was not the case on Ubuntu 18.04. I am having troubles finding the cause of the problem. A network timing analysis in Firefox shows that in a random GET 5s are spent blocked, 5s resolving DNS and 5s waiting.08:18
danjjlMy chipset is a Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 using the iwlwifi driver08:19
danjjl(btw I am not very familiar with IRC or this channel -- do tell me if it is the wrong place to ask for help to debug this WiFi issue)08:20
lotuspsychjedanjjl: system up to date?09:25
danjjlYes09:26
lotuspsychjedanjjl: wich kernel is your wifi going slow on?09:26
danjjllotuspsychje 5.4.0-26-generic09:27
lotuspsychjedanjjl: could you try booting into -25 please see if you can reproduce that?09:27
danjjllotuspsychje : I tried booting in -24 and -25 and encounter the same issue. (I also tried disabling the 11n_disable=1 option  and checked dmesg output. For the moment I cannot find anything related to the issue)09:52
lotuspsychjeok tnx for testing that danjjl 09:55
lotuspsychjedanjjl: can you pastebin your dmesg booting -26 please?09:56
danjjllotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9ccMnSDcc7/10:06
lotuspsychjetnx lets see10:06
lotuspsychjedanjjl: iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwl-dbg-cfg.ini failed with error -210:09
danjjllotuspsychje: Yep I see that one, searching for hits the error on Google. I assumed it was non critical given wifi still works (albeit super slow) and given the -dbg- (?debug) qualifier in the filename10:15
lotuspsychjedanjjl: think you better file a big for this mate10:16
lotuspsychjedanjjl: you have a launchpad account?10:16
danjjllotuspsychje yes10:16
danjjllotuspsychje: OK submitting bug10:17
lotuspsychjedanjjl: ubuntu-bug linux from terminal, add a title + description with the kernels you tested on, attach your dmesg if you like10:17
danjjllotuspsychje nice tool! didn't know about it :)10:18
lotuspsychjethank you danjjl this way you help yourself and the community10:18
danjjllotuspsychje: thanks for the guidance collecting the relevant info10:22
lotuspsychjethank you for reporting this danjjl 10:22
lotuspsychjedanjjl: maybe also describe it was working on bionic/kernel-version10:23
lotuspsychjebrb10:24
nikolamWill Ubuntu ever support booting from ZFS partition? 10:27
nikolamIn contrast to ultimately requesting to destroy all partitions on the hard drive?10:27
nikolamI would like to keep dual-boot in the future.10:28
nikolamIf I install on another drive with installer on ZFS, shall I be able to move all datasets to a pool built on top of disk partition.10:34
nikolamAnd will boot loader be able to boot from the ZFS on the partition and not on the whole drive?10:35
nikolamWith even "whole drive" ZFS pool install, can I install on EXISTING pool instead?10:36
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excited_buddhaI have an issue with gnome-shell-theme and combination of the user theme extension. I am new to IRC 1st message, I don't know how to ask questions, if anyone can advice please reply..11:25
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: are you on 20.04?11:25
excited_buddhayes11:25
coitusinteruptusnot released yet11:25
excited_buddhadaily build11:25
coitusinteruptushold your horses11:26
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: cool, then this is the right place for support, try to elaborate all your details, whats happening exactly11:26
excited_buddhathanks. So everything was installed fine. I installed the user theme extensions, then tried some shell themes. Did not liked any, now I am only using Yaru, uninstalled the extension, as I don't want it. but now when I switch the themes from appearence menu from settings to dark, the application theme switches to dark, but the shell theme is light.11:28
excited_buddhaand stuck on light.11:28
coitusinteruptuswe need dark11:28
excited_buddhaSo, I think that my link of appreance setting to shell theme (yaru dark) is broken somehow. The yaru dark (shell theme is still there), if I reinstall user theme extension I can manually select the shell theme(dark) but if I uninstall the extension it goes to light shell theme again.11:30
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: do you have gnome-tweaks installed?11:31
excited_buddhayes11:31
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: at the top you have a 3 lines menu, you can set gnome back to defaults, you could try that? or disable all shell extensions?11:32
lotuspsychjebe carefull, this could reset all back to defaults11:32
lotuspsychjeso backup your things/cinfigs first11:33
lotuspsychjeconfigs11:33
excited_buddhaI did not do any other customizations, I was trying the themes 11:34
excited_buddharight after I installed.11:34
lotuspsychjeok go ahead and try that then11:35
excited_buddhadid it, it still is not working.11:35
lotuspsychjehmm ok11:35
excited_buddhaany way to reset any other files that might have been touched by shell extension11:35
excited_buddhahttps://imgur.com/a/7nFvS2k this is the issue.11:37
coitusinteruptuscan i run automobilista 2 on linux ?11:38
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: did you logout/back in after resetting?11:38
excited_buddhano11:39
excited_buddhaI will11:39
excited_buddhanow.11:40
excited_buddhastill same issue.11:41
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: if you are talking about the notification area, thats normal to be white11:41
excited_buddhais that not supposed to be dark?11:42
lotuspsychjei ahve yaru dark, its also white there11:42
lotuspsychjenop11:42
excited_buddhaif you install the user theme extension, then select yaru dark in shell theme11:42
excited_buddhathen you  get dark notification11:42
excited_buddhayaru dark is pre installed shell theme.11:43
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: right upper corner is white too11:43
excited_buddhahave you ever installed the user theme extension on your current machine11:44
lotuspsychjeno, im not an extension fan really11:44
excited_buddhaok11:44
lotuspsychjei bet thats just a theme manager?11:44
excited_buddhaso i guess I did not pay attention to factory install.11:44
excited_buddhathe way how it was.11:45
excited_buddhaI have one question lotuspsychje, reseting from gnome-tweaks, what does it do? reset to ubuntu defaults or gnome defaults?11:45
lotuspsychjegnome defaults11:46
excited_buddhaso i lost all customizations that ubuntu made at fresh install after reseting?11:46
lotuspsychjecustomizations on gnome yes11:47
lotuspsychjenot like installed packages with apt11:47
excited_buddhawhat would they be, for eg.11:47
excited_buddhawould that impact anything? performance? animations?etc11:47
lotuspsychjeexcited_buddha: any tweak you can find in gnome settings or dconf editor11:48
excited_buddhacan I find ubuntu edits to these settings online/ or have to do fresh install?11:49
excited_buddhabtw how long till official release?11:49
lotuspsychje23 april11:49
excited_buddhahours11:49
lotuspsychjeno11:49
lotuspsychjeits out when its out11:50
excited_buddhaare you on 20.04 now?11:50
excited_buddhawilll you be doing fresh install after release or just update:11:50
excited_buddha?11:50
excited_buddhaI MEAN which is better>11:51
excited_buddha?11:51
coconutHi. Does the firmware updater tool inside 20.04 still work when i replace the official ssd which comes with a laptop with a different brand ssd ? Will it still update the firmware of the replaced ssd ?11:51
deadromhi13:14
deadromwill 20.04 release as planned tomorrow? if so: will it be eligible for an LTS upgrade from 18.04 right away?13:15
oerhekstomorrow yes, upgrade path will be available with 20.04.1 .. after 3 months or so13:17
coitusinteruptuslooking forward t o20.04   im a mouse user.. and ubuntu seems my best choice.. gets better every release.. generally13:19
deadromthe LTS .1 upgrace policy sounds a bit as if people should rather be forced into fresh installs13:33
coitusinteruptuslooking forward to 20.04  ubuntu overall best distro for pc illetaretes like me13:34
lotuspsychjedeadrom: if you want stable, aka a lot more bugs solved then first release, await .113:35
lotuspsychjedeadrom: it all depends on your case/needs13:35
coitusinteruptuslotuspsychje  unban be from main room.. and make your name easier to spell13:41
coconutcoitusinteruptus: why should she just do that ?13:44
coitusinteruptusive been banned long enough13:45
coitusinteruptusthey attack me i was just defending myself13:45
coconutcoitusinteruptus: if you're banned then you have done something wrong... probably best to go to #freenode for help on unbanning.13:48
coitusinteruptusstrange  how the linux fanboys arent warned or banned.. just me13:49
coitusinteruptuswe need to get a grip13:49
coitusinteruptuswork together13:49
coitusinteruptuswe arent the common enemy13:49
coitusinteruptuschina and islam is13:49
oerhekshow is your rant related to ubuntu focal support?13:56
oerheksyou risk a ban here too 13:56
coitusinteruptusjust statign drity facts.. dirty but a fact is a fact.  man up13:57
oerhekswrong channel dud13:57
coitusinteruptusmaybe.. btu at least we know its fact13:58
coitusinteruptus20.04?  still cant drag and drop files onto desktop?  why not13:58
oerheksinstall gnome-tweak-tool, that gives an option13:59
coitusinteruptushmm13:59
oerheksfiles on a desktop is so 201913:59
coitusinteruptusno, its just functional ffs14:00
coitusinteruptuswhy not even allow it?14:00
Eickmeyer!ops14:02
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EickmeyerWe need to stay on-topic in here. If you got banned, coitusinteruptus, it's for good reason.14:02
popeyit's because the extension we're using doesn't have that feature14:03
coitusinteruptushmm14:08
hggdhwell14:13
hggdhyou know better, mystic14:13
lotuspsychjecoconut: you want to update the firmware of your ssd through ubuntu?14:15
coconutlotuspsychje: yes, although i still have to buy the laptop14:16
lotuspsychjecoconut: wich brand of ssd is that?14:16
coconutlet me check...14:16
flying_sausageshey guys, did anyone have success on a Linux raid system when trying to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04? I have had problems with the grub every time14:19
flying_sausagesI've got Raid1 /boot and Raid5 root14:19
flying_sausagestrying to install it on all 4 disks succeeds, update-grub2 runs fine, but the system won't come back online (it's remote).14:19
coconutlotuspsychje: 1 TB SSD-station, M.2 2280, NVMe, Opal(from vendor)    OR    one of the latest samsung EVO ssd's(might put that in the laptop myself)14:23
lotuspsychjecoconut: https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/global.semi.static/Firmware_Update_Utility_UserManual.pdf14:24
coconutthnx lotusps14:26
lotuspsychjecoconut: that laptop brand will be lenovo?14:29
coconutyes, as it looks now the "x1 extreme gen2"14:29
coconutor another if you recommend one...14:30
lotuspsychjecoconut: some lenovo types might offer firmware updates via software centre/fwupdate but not sure if they include the ssd firmware also14:30
coconutwell, we'll see14:31
lotuspsychje!hardware | coconut take a look here also14:31
ubottucoconut take a look here also: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection14:31
coconutlooooooking14:32
lotuspsychjecoconut: hardware not listen, mostly also work, but sometimes some chipsets might need bypass/workarounds/bug solve14:33
coconutwell... i only need to be honest with that then and supply some info14:37
coconutjust hope it would not be to hard doing so14:39
coconuttoo14:39
lotuspsychjecoconut: another methos would be, updating ssd firmware from the Os that comes on your laptop first, then install ubuntu after14:40
lotuspsychje*method14:40
coconutyeah i might do that, but still want to see how far it will update from ubuntu first14:41
lotuspsychjecoconut: the users choice14:43
coconuthuhuh14:43
flying_sausagesfwupd no do?14:47
dabbillWhat package adds the hybrid graphics to the dropdown menu where the sound and shutdown options are. I upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04. The graphics options are not there in 20.04. 15:29
lotuspsychjedabbill: can you check wich driver you on, nvidia-smi ?15:30
dabbilllotuspsychje: 440.64, just updated this morning15:31
lotuspsychjedabbill: try to switch to one version down, there might be a glitch happened15:32
lotuspsychje43515:32
dabbilllotuspsychje: I have tried 435, and several versions of 440. 15:32
lotuspsychjeoh?15:32
lotuspsychjedabbill: you have the ubuntu graphics ppa enabled?15:33
dabbilllotuspsychje: yes15:34
lotuspsychjedabbill: so you dont have nvidia-settings is that what happens?15:35
flying_sausagesI just did an do-release-upgrade -d and the install didn't move the nic to netstat, is this a known bug?15:35
flying_sausagesanywhere I can check this?15:35
lotuspsychjedabbill: apt policy nvidia-settings to see if its installed15:36
flying_sausagesallegedly it happens in debian 9 -> 10 too15:36
dabbilllotuspsychje: I have nvidia-settings15:36
lotuspsychjedabbill: what happens exactly then?15:37
dabbilllotuspsychje: I do not have this menu options. https://twitter.com/killyourfm/status/1251139096338194432 15:38
lotuspsychjedabbill: on 20.04 the nvidia drivers are included now, i would try purge the graphics ppa, try the original 435 as a test15:39
dabbilllotuspsychje: tried that :) 15:40
lotuspsychjedabbill: hybrid card with optimus?15:40
dabbilllotuspsychje: Yes, laptop has intel / nvidia cards 15:40
lotuspsychjekk15:40
lotuspsychjesystem up to date also i presume?15:40
dabbilllotuspsychje: as of couple hours ago15:41
lotuspsychjeright15:41
dabbillin nvidia-settings I can change the PRIME Profiles15:41
lotuspsychjepastebin your dmesg please, ill go eat first, check after ok15:41
lotuspsychjeor if other volunteers can take a look15:41
lestacapt policy nvidia-settings15:41
lestacnvidia-settings:15:41
lestac  Instalados: (ninguno)15:41
lestac  Candidato:  390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.115:41
dabbilllotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/xQqPZ1XQ15:48
lotuspsychjedabbill: never saw those before: SGI_video_sync[4981]: segfault at e6 ip 0000562057352f92 sp 00007f07da7fa6c0 error 6 in teams[56205486f000+4bf6000]16:11
lotuspsychjedabbill: and you got a lot of wifi disconnects at the end too16:11
felcoYAY, are we ready to release tomorrow?16:16
lotuspsychjeyes we are, all party hats in #ubuntu-release-party felco 16:18
felcoYAY \o/16:18
lotuspsychjedabbill: can you confirm you are on kernel 5.4 -26 ?16:21
lotuspsychjedabbill: check bug #1871041 see if its you?16:23
ubottubug 1871041 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "Nvidia drivers not working with GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile / Max-Q" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187104116:23
lotuspsychjedabbill: another update bug #186736116:37
ubottubug 1867361 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "Nvidia graphics fail to start on 20.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186736116:37
AlexMaxHi folks, I'm having a strange problem.  Whenever I switch users, or sometimes also when I use xrandr to change my scaling, there is a "ghost mouse pointer" that just hovers there doing nothing.17:03
AlexMaxI can move my real mouse around, but that other mouse just hangs sits there.17:04
AlexMaxIt does not show up in screenshots.17:04
AlexMaxI'm using X sessions17:04
AlexMaxI seem to recall having some strange issues with that in Fedora as well, but I think the problems eventually went away after a while - possibly because of a kernel update?17:05
dabbilllotuspsychje: yeah, been fighting with some APs that I think are dieing. 17:43
dabbilllotuspsychje: kernel 5.4.0-2617:44
dabbilllotuspsychje: laptop is hooked to a docking station, so not worried about wifi :) 17:44
dabbilllotuspsychje: nvidia driver is working fine.17:46
vertionHi17:58
vertionI installed focal fossa and for some reason the right speaker doesn't work... it is not a hardware issue.  I have gone into Sound settings and tested Left and Right speakers.  No sound on Right.  I have updated and restarted and had the issue since upgrade18:00
coconutflying_sausages: i don't know, i have never used fwupd before18:32
flying_sausagesvertion: laptop?18:40
zvrkvertion, run 'alsamixer' and check right speaker is muted 19:01
howarthDefinitely looks like 'nomodeset' got broken in 20.0420:06
howarthThe live usb boots fine into safe graphics for the current 19.10 image on a GTX680 but stays stuck on a black screen for the current daily cd image of 20.0420:07
howarthThis matches the breakage that I am seeing for the recovery boot (which fails unless I remove nomodeset)20:08
howarthWeirdly, it doesn't seem to be a kernel bug because i installed the focal linux-generic kernels on 19.10 and it didn't break nomodeset20:08
howarthI am assuming this may be breakage in nouveau?20:10
howarthI guess the next step is to try to install the focal nouveau packages on 19.10 and see if that breaks nomodeset20:10
howarthIt is interesting that Fedora 32 stayed at 1.0.15 for nouveau rather than going to 1.0.1620:20
AlexMaxAny ideas for the floating mouse cursor on my machine?20:50
excited_buddhaJust had a 5min+ screen hang at lockscreen. Now ubuntu want to report the error. How do I see myself what went wrong?22:07
excited_buddhaI have the report problem dialog open, it says gnome shell crash.(ubuntu 20.04)22:08
tomreyn/var/crash may have more information22:33
excited_buddhaI will check.22:33
tomreynyou can run apport-unpack against .crash files there22:34
excited_buddharaceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/bin/apport-unpack", line 77, in <module>    pr.extract_keys(f, bin_keys, dir)  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/problem_report.py", line 269, in extract_keys    raise ValueError('%s has no binary content' %ValueError: ['separator'] has no binary contentis the output of apport, Now what to do / How22:39
excited_buddhato read the unpacked crash?22:39
excited_buddhaHAHA the ubuntu apport just crashed too... oh such an irony.22:39
excited_buddhaI know am looking for something with grep, I don't know what to look for in these files. I think its my nvidia driver that froze my gnome shell, when using grep "nvidia" *, it gives some error in journalErrors like : Nvidia_drm is in use, Nvidia is in use by Nvidia_modset, etc... If any one can point me to what I am looking for in crash, to locate22:48
excited_buddhathe cause of crash, it would be very helpful.22:48
tomreynexcited_buddha: Did you upload it? if so, do you mind sharing your /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id ?22:55
excited_buddhaI can upload, I dont know where to? or you do you mean I just click the send report button or manually upload some where? tomreyn22:56
tomreynsending the report is what i mean22:56
excited_buddhaI just pressed send, let me see the ID22:56
excited_buddhayou mean the file? or the data in the whoopsie-id file?22:57
tomreynit should add a new record to the top of the URL printed by this script:    echo https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)22:57
tomreynthe data in the whoopsie-id file22:58
tomreynbut it may take half an hour or so for this new record to be added22:58
excited_buddhais my ID safe to share here?22:59
excited_buddhaI have it..22:59
tomreynanyone who has it can look at the list of errors you reported at the abive location22:59
excited_buddha6eb94b54e1a4c59d03449cc89adb98754929d50a9417d819c79ddf7849b74eadd80e756cb6a035fbd03a550bb9e9650fa0675f502f3eb98a32a9dd4daf9ef05622:59
tomreynso this makes it https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/6eb94b54e1a4c59d03449cc89adb98754929d50a9417d819c79ddf7849b74eadd80e756cb6a035fbd03a550bb9e9650fa0675f502f3eb98a32a9dd4daf9ef05623:00
excited_buddhayes i think it is uploaded23:01
tomreynso 03:04 is "just now"?23:01
excited_buddhathe first one is gnome shell, it happened twice, I left my laptop for a few minute, screen locked(as intended) did not open when I tried to press any keys, All I got was a black screen.23:02
excited_buddhaUploaded just now23:02
excited_buddhaI did not press the send on that for all this time, coz I was worried I would lose the crash, I wanted to investigate.23:02
excited_buddhaCan you help me with it? or lead me in the direction of someone or soemwhere I can get help with this, coz I want to lock my screen again.23:03
tomreyni will probably not be able to help much, but maybe i can point you at an existing error after your upload was analyzed.23:05
tomreyns/error/bug report/23:05
excited_buddhathat would be very helpful23:05
excited_buddhas/error/bug report/ what is this?23:05
tomreynah sorry, that's my way of saying: "i really wanted to write this: maybe i can point you at an existing bug report after your upload was analyzed."23:07
tomreyn(i.e. "please subsitute 'error' by 'bug report' in what i just said because i typed it incorrectly")23:08
excited_buddhaAh okay23:09
tomreyni see the nvidia error messages you discussed earlier23:09
excited_buddhanow I get it, thanks this, learned a new way of saying things.23:09
tomreyn... but it's not clear (to me) whether they're symptomatic or even directly related.23:10
excited_buddhabut can't say what caused the shell to not wake up (display properly) after I woke screen from lock.( maybe its X11 bugging)23:10
excited_buddhawill ubuntu team take a look at it ever?23:11
tomreynyou're using X11 though, right, not wayland?23:11
excited_buddhaX11.23:11
excited_buddha20.04 has x11 i think only23:11
excited_buddhas/'i think'/only ; s/only/'i think'23:12
tomreynthese crash reports serve as a kind of stack of data which analysis is run over, developers use it to get a better idea of how often users run into the same kinds of problems, so they'll know what needs to be fixed most urgently.23:12
excited_buddhaofcourse23:13
tomreynthey may and will occasionally also inspect those reports individually while working on fixing one of these crashes23:13
excited_buddhayes I understand23:13
tomreynthere's no guarantee that someone will inspect your individual submission, though23:13
tomreyndid you install nvidia drivers using ubuntu-drivers / the ubuntu settings GUI?23:14
tomreynGUI=graphical user interface, so the graphical "settings" application23:14
excited_buddhaYes, the latest 440, but now I am thinking to revert to 390. or maybe the xorg one. coz I dont game.23:14
excited_buddhathanks for explaining, but I am aware of GUI.23:15
excited_buddhaI will make a new crash report, if it crashes again with the 390, or xorg.23:16
excited_buddhaThanks for your time tomreyn23:16
tomreyni'm not really into nvidia very much. i know there's some listings on nvidia.com suggesting which driver should be used for which card. but i found them to be unreliable.23:20
tomreynand sometimes contradicting23:20
tomreynexcited_buddha: you'Re welcome. i didn't get to look at your latest upload / report, yet, though23:20
tomreynit's probably still waiting (in queue) to being (automatically) analyzed.23:20
tomreynwhen it's done it'll be listed on top of your  errors.ubuntu.com link from above23:21
excited_buddhaoh okay 23:21
howarthFYI, users with nvidia cards might want to check that the safe graphics boot from the live usb works. I am finding on my GTX680 that it hangs on the nomodeset that uses/23:22
howarthI am trying to pin down the origin as it doesn't exist in 19.1023:23
howarthIt also causes the recovery boot to hang.23:23
howarthI know that the kernel isn't the cause since I can install focals kernel on 19.10 and nomodeset still works23:24
tomreyndid you try     nomodeset nouveau.modeset=1   ?23:24
howarthnot yet, my next test is to try downgrading plymouth in 20.04 to the 19.10 version23:25
howarththat went from libplymouth4 to libplymouth5 for casper dependencies23:25
howarthI'm more interesting in finding the culprit for a sensible bug report than hacking a workaround23:26
excited_buddhahowarth It worked for me in safe graphics, as I ran with it the first time I tried to install 20.0423:27
howarthIt is really my only gripe with 20.0423:27
howarthwhat card?23:27
tomreynlspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 23:29
excited_buddhaMX 150 (laptotp)23:29
tomreynmaybe you exceeded the attention span? ;-)23:30
Bashing-omhowarth: If it will help - I have GeForce GT 710. 20.04 currently on nouvea - if it will help I can see what results in installing the 440 version driver ( throw away install).23:31
tomreynhowarth's gone23:31
Bashing-omtomreyn: thanks - so much for my thoughts :(23:31
valoriebug reports discovered during test which are linked on the ISO tracker will be looked at23:32
valoriealthough the earlier they are reported there, the more likely to be fixed23:33
excited_buddhaHey Bashing-om Dont worry, it can help me23:33
excited_buddhaIf you could be so kind to do the install? and report after restarting(if needed, unlikely), opening a few apps, Locking screen, letting screen go dark/black/blank/oFF, and then try to login again.23:34
excited_buddhaBashing-om could you ?23:34
Bashing-omexcited_buddha: Well I can - is on another drive - ya got time to await here for my results ?23:35
excited_buddhaI do.23:35
excited_buddhaETA?23:35
excited_buddha20 min~23:36
Bashing-omexcited_buddha: Ho-kay be a whilke to back out, reboot into 20.04 and run the install. 23:36
Bashing-omwhile*23:36
excited_buddhai'll be here.23:36
excited_buddhavalorie how can i link my crash to iso tracker? do i have to go through the iso testing instructions?23:38
valoriefind the one that most closely matches how you installed23:39
valoriewhich testcase23:39
valorieand when you report your result there is a place to link your BR23:39
valoriejust the number is needed23:39
valorieso first you find the flavor then the ISO you used, then the testcase23:40
valoriebit of drilling down23:40
excited_buddhawhich number? my whoopsie ID?23:40
excited_buddhabeen there i can do this much, then?23:40
excited_buddhai upoaded the crash for now, to make BR, do I do it in launchpad? or it done auto?23:43
excited_buddhanever created a BR23:43
valorieaha!23:46
valoriewell it's pretty easy -- from inside the install you are reporting about, if possible, from a term: ubuntu-bug packagename23:47
valorieif you don't know the packagename ask and we'll figure it out23:47
valorieinstall or live-session, I should say23:47
excited_buddhaapport collecting info now23:49
excited_buddhai think this created the .chash file in /var/crash right? i already uploaded that. I ask again, what number you reffer to up, when you said "just the number is needed?23:51
valorie!bug23:52
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:52
valorielemme see if I can find a sample BR23:53
valoriehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chrony/+bug/1872902 for instance23:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1872902 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "Upgrade to Focal now removes chrony" [Critical,Triaged]23:54
valorieyou would put in 187290223:55
valorieonce you finish the bug report in launchpad the URL will change and you can see the number in your browser23:55

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