[00:47] good morning [02:01] !info ubiquity [02:01] ubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 20.04.15 (focal), package size 2860 kB, installed size 17448 kB [03:01] what kernel version should I have after an apt upgrade? [03:03] CarlFK: 5.4.0-26-generic [03:04] lotuspsychje: thanks. that;s what I thought. [03:06] I did this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1871182/comments/11 [03:06] Launchpad bug 1871182 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "[RTL810xE] No ethernet connection" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:06] install -25 [03:07] !info linux-image-generic [03:07] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.26.32 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 17 kB [03:07] I'm not completely opposed to re-installing but is there some quick thing I can try to get it ? [03:08] CarlFK: ^^ " sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ? [03:08] re-installing focal that is. this box/install is just to test the wifi [03:09] Bashing-om: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [03:10] apt-cache policy linux-image-generic ... Installed: (none) Candidate: 5.4.0.26.32 [03:10] CarlFK: pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep linux- '. See if that new kernel is available in your install. [03:12] Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hdx9Dknfvc/ [03:13] im removing the -25 [03:14] CarlFK: Huh ?? only partly installed "linux-headers-5.4.0-26" / I wonder why, what is not going on. disk space ' df -h ; df -i ' ? [03:14] CarlFK: -25 might be the kernel that you are booting now !! [03:16] Bashing-om: it is. she'll be all right mate :p [03:16] CarlFK: Hope you have a good plan :P [03:17] it's like a video game. If I die, I'll have to start over [03:18] CarlFK: We learn most when we break it and pick up the pieces. [03:18] wth... apt upgrade... The following packages will be upgraded: linux-image-unsigned-5.4.0-25-generic [03:21] CarlFK: Not a good sign - our kernels are normally signed - yukkie. [03:22] Bashing-om: did you see the bug report comment about installing -25? [03:22] CarlFK: No - did not read it :( [03:23] there isn't much to it, other than explain why I installed linux-image-unsigned-5.4.0-25-generic_5.4.0-25.29~lp1871182_amd64.deb [03:26] CarlFK: Sorry - I must depart -:( [03:27] no prob - [03:27] see ya === diddledan9 is now known as diddledan [08:18] Hello, since upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04 (fresh install), the WiFi on my laptop is extremely slow. This was not the case on Ubuntu 18.04. I am having troubles finding the cause of the problem. A network timing analysis in Firefox shows that in a random GET 5s are spent blocked, 5s resolving DNS and 5s waiting. [08:19] My chipset is a Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 7265 using the iwlwifi driver [08:20] (btw I am not very familiar with IRC or this channel -- do tell me if it is the wrong place to ask for help to debug this WiFi issue) [09:25] danjjl: system up to date? [09:26] Yes [09:26] danjjl: wich kernel is your wifi going slow on? [09:27] lotuspsychje 5.4.0-26-generic [09:27] danjjl: could you try booting into -25 please see if you can reproduce that? [09:52] lotuspsychje : I tried booting in -24 and -25 and encounter the same issue. (I also tried disabling the 11n_disable=1 option and checked dmesg output. For the moment I cannot find anything related to the issue) [09:55] ok tnx for testing that danjjl [09:56] danjjl: can you pastebin your dmesg booting -26 please? [10:06] lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9ccMnSDcc7/ [10:06] tnx lets see [10:09] danjjl: iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwl-dbg-cfg.ini failed with error -2 [10:15] lotuspsychje: Yep I see that one, searching for hits the error on Google. I assumed it was non critical given wifi still works (albeit super slow) and given the -dbg- (?debug) qualifier in the filename [10:16] danjjl: think you better file a big for this mate [10:16] danjjl: you have a launchpad account? [10:16] lotuspsychje yes [10:17] lotuspsychje: OK submitting bug [10:17] danjjl: ubuntu-bug linux from terminal, add a title + description with the kernels you tested on, attach your dmesg if you like [10:18] lotuspsychje nice tool! didn't know about it :) [10:18] thank you danjjl this way you help yourself and the community [10:22] lotuspsychje: thanks for the guidance collecting the relevant info [10:22] thank you for reporting this danjjl [10:23] danjjl: maybe also describe it was working on bionic/kernel-version [10:24] brb [10:27] Will Ubuntu ever support booting from ZFS partition? [10:27] In contrast to ultimately requesting to destroy all partitions on the hard drive? [10:28] I would like to keep dual-boot in the future. [10:34] If I install on another drive with installer on ZFS, shall I be able to move all datasets to a pool built on top of disk partition. [10:35] And will boot loader be able to boot from the ZFS on the partition and not on the whole drive? [10:36] With even "whole drive" ZFS pool install, can I install on EXISTING pool instead? === cpaelzer__ is now known as cpaelzer [11:25] I have an issue with gnome-shell-theme and combination of the user theme extension. I am new to IRC 1st message, I don't know how to ask questions, if anyone can advice please reply.. [11:25] excited_buddha: are you on 20.04? [11:25] yes [11:25] not released yet [11:25] daily build [11:26] hold your horses [11:26] excited_buddha: cool, then this is the right place for support, try to elaborate all your details, whats happening exactly [11:28] thanks. So everything was installed fine. I installed the user theme extensions, then tried some shell themes. Did not liked any, now I am only using Yaru, uninstalled the extension, as I don't want it. but now when I switch the themes from appearence menu from settings to dark, the application theme switches to dark, but the shell theme is light. [11:28] and stuck on light. [11:28] we need dark [11:30] So, I think that my link of appreance setting to shell theme (yaru dark) is broken somehow. The yaru dark (shell theme is still there), if I reinstall user theme extension I can manually select the shell theme(dark) but if I uninstall the extension it goes to light shell theme again. [11:31] excited_buddha: do you have gnome-tweaks installed? [11:31] yes [11:32] excited_buddha: at the top you have a 3 lines menu, you can set gnome back to defaults, you could try that? or disable all shell extensions? [11:32] be carefull, this could reset all back to defaults [11:33] so backup your things/cinfigs first [11:33] configs [11:34] I did not do any other customizations, I was trying the themes [11:34] right after I installed. [11:35] ok go ahead and try that then [11:35] did it, it still is not working. [11:35] hmm ok [11:35] any way to reset any other files that might have been touched by shell extension [11:37] https://imgur.com/a/7nFvS2k this is the issue. [11:38] can i run automobilista 2 on linux ? [11:38] excited_buddha: did you logout/back in after resetting? [11:39] no [11:39] I will [11:40] now. [11:41] still same issue. [11:41] excited_buddha: if you are talking about the notification area, thats normal to be white [11:42] is that not supposed to be dark? [11:42] i ahve yaru dark, its also white there [11:42] nop [11:42] if you install the user theme extension, then select yaru dark in shell theme [11:42] then you get dark notification [11:43] yaru dark is pre installed shell theme. [11:43] excited_buddha: right upper corner is white too [11:44] have you ever installed the user theme extension on your current machine [11:44] no, im not an extension fan really [11:44] ok [11:44] i bet thats just a theme manager? [11:44] so i guess I did not pay attention to factory install. [11:45] the way how it was. [11:45] I have one question lotuspsychje, reseting from gnome-tweaks, what does it do? reset to ubuntu defaults or gnome defaults? [11:46] gnome defaults [11:46] so i lost all customizations that ubuntu made at fresh install after reseting? [11:47] customizations on gnome yes [11:47] not like installed packages with apt [11:47] what would they be, for eg. [11:47] would that impact anything? performance? animations?etc [11:48] excited_buddha: any tweak you can find in gnome settings or dconf editor [11:49] can I find ubuntu edits to these settings online/ or have to do fresh install? [11:49] btw how long till official release? [11:49] 23 april [11:49] hours [11:49] no [11:50] its out when its out [11:50] are you on 20.04 now? [11:50] willl you be doing fresh install after release or just update: [11:50] ? [11:51] I MEAN which is better> [11:51] ? [11:51] Hi. Does the firmware updater tool inside 20.04 still work when i replace the official ssd which comes with a laptop with a different brand ssd ? Will it still update the firmware of the replaced ssd ? [13:14] hi [13:15] will 20.04 release as planned tomorrow? if so: will it be eligible for an LTS upgrade from 18.04 right away? [13:17] tomorrow yes, upgrade path will be available with 20.04.1 .. after 3 months or so [13:19] looking forward t o20.04 im a mouse user.. and ubuntu seems my best choice.. gets better every release.. generally [13:33] the LTS .1 upgrace policy sounds a bit as if people should rather be forced into fresh installs [13:34] looking forward to 20.04 ubuntu overall best distro for pc illetaretes like me [13:35] deadrom: if you want stable, aka a lot more bugs solved then first release, await .1 [13:35] deadrom: it all depends on your case/needs [13:41] lotuspsychje unban be from main room.. and make your name easier to spell [13:44] coitusinteruptus: why should she just do that ? [13:45] ive been banned long enough [13:45] they attack me i was just defending myself [13:48] coitusinteruptus: if you're banned then you have done something wrong... probably best to go to #freenode for help on unbanning. [13:49] strange how the linux fanboys arent warned or banned.. just me [13:49] we need to get a grip [13:49] work together [13:49] we arent the common enemy [13:49] china and islam is [13:56] how is your rant related to ubuntu focal support? [13:56] you risk a ban here too [13:57] just statign drity facts.. dirty but a fact is a fact. man up [13:57] wrong channel dud [13:58] maybe.. btu at least we know its fact [13:58] 20.04? still cant drag and drop files onto desktop? why not [13:59] install gnome-tweak-tool, that gives an option [13:59] hmm [13:59] files on a desktop is so 2019 [14:00] no, its just functional ffs [14:00] why not even allow it? [14:02] !ops [14:02] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax [14:02] We need to stay on-topic in here. If you got banned, coitusinteruptus, it's for good reason. [14:03] it's because the extension we're using doesn't have that feature [14:08] hmm [14:13] well [14:13] you know better, mystic [14:15] coconut: you want to update the firmware of your ssd through ubuntu? [14:16] lotuspsychje: yes, although i still have to buy the laptop [14:16] coconut: wich brand of ssd is that? [14:16] let me check... [14:19] hey guys, did anyone have success on a Linux raid system when trying to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04? I have had problems with the grub every time [14:19] I've got Raid1 /boot and Raid5 root [14:19] trying to install it on all 4 disks succeeds, update-grub2 runs fine, but the system won't come back online (it's remote). [14:23] lotuspsychje: 1 TB SSD-station, M.2 2280, NVMe, Opal(from vendor) OR one of the latest samsung EVO ssd's(might put that in the laptop myself) [14:24] coconut: https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/global.semi.static/Firmware_Update_Utility_UserManual.pdf [14:26] thnx lotusps [14:29] coconut: that laptop brand will be lenovo? [14:29] yes, as it looks now the "x1 extreme gen2" [14:30] or another if you recommend one... [14:30] coconut: some lenovo types might offer firmware updates via software centre/fwupdate but not sure if they include the ssd firmware also [14:31] well, we'll see [14:31] !hardware | coconut take a look here also [14:31] coconut take a look here also: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [14:32] looooooking [14:33] coconut: hardware not listen, mostly also work, but sometimes some chipsets might need bypass/workarounds/bug solve [14:37] well... i only need to be honest with that then and supply some info [14:39] just hope it would not be to hard doing so [14:39] too [14:40] coconut: another methos would be, updating ssd firmware from the Os that comes on your laptop first, then install ubuntu after [14:40] *method [14:41] yeah i might do that, but still want to see how far it will update from ubuntu first [14:43] coconut: the users choice [14:43] huhuh [14:47] fwupd no do? [15:29] What package adds the hybrid graphics to the dropdown menu where the sound and shutdown options are. I upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04. The graphics options are not there in 20.04. [15:30] dabbill: can you check wich driver you on, nvidia-smi ? [15:31] lotuspsychje: 440.64, just updated this morning [15:32] dabbill: try to switch to one version down, there might be a glitch happened [15:32] 435 [15:32] lotuspsychje: I have tried 435, and several versions of 440. [15:32] oh? [15:33] dabbill: you have the ubuntu graphics ppa enabled? [15:34] lotuspsychje: yes [15:35] dabbill: so you dont have nvidia-settings is that what happens? [15:35] I just did an do-release-upgrade -d and the install didn't move the nic to netstat, is this a known bug? [15:35] anywhere I can check this? [15:36] dabbill: apt policy nvidia-settings to see if its installed [15:36] allegedly it happens in debian 9 -> 10 too [15:36] lotuspsychje: I have nvidia-settings [15:37] dabbill: what happens exactly then? [15:38] lotuspsychje: I do not have this menu options. https://twitter.com/killyourfm/status/1251139096338194432 [15:39] dabbill: on 20.04 the nvidia drivers are included now, i would try purge the graphics ppa, try the original 435 as a test [15:40] lotuspsychje: tried that :) [15:40] dabbill: hybrid card with optimus? [15:40] lotuspsychje: Yes, laptop has intel / nvidia cards [15:40] kk [15:40] system up to date also i presume? [15:41] lotuspsychje: as of couple hours ago [15:41] right [15:41] in nvidia-settings I can change the PRIME Profiles [15:41] pastebin your dmesg please, ill go eat first, check after ok [15:41] or if other volunteers can take a look [15:41] apt policy nvidia-settings [15:41] nvidia-settings: [15:41] Instalados: (ninguno) [15:41] Candidato: 390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 [15:48] lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/xQqPZ1XQ [16:11] dabbill: never saw those before: SGI_video_sync[4981]: segfault at e6 ip 0000562057352f92 sp 00007f07da7fa6c0 error 6 in teams[56205486f000+4bf6000] [16:11] dabbill: and you got a lot of wifi disconnects at the end too [16:16] YAY, are we ready to release tomorrow? [16:18] yes we are, all party hats in #ubuntu-release-party felco [16:18] YAY \o/ [16:21] dabbill: can you confirm you are on kernel 5.4 -26 ? [16:23] dabbill: check bug #1871041 see if its you? [16:23] bug 1871041 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "Nvidia drivers not working with GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile / Max-Q" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871041 [16:37] dabbill: another update bug #1867361 [16:37] bug 1867361 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "Nvidia graphics fail to start on 20.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1867361 [17:03] Hi folks, I'm having a strange problem. Whenever I switch users, or sometimes also when I use xrandr to change my scaling, there is a "ghost mouse pointer" that just hovers there doing nothing. [17:04] I can move my real mouse around, but that other mouse just hangs sits there. [17:04] It does not show up in screenshots. [17:04] I'm using X sessions [17:05] I seem to recall having some strange issues with that in Fedora as well, but I think the problems eventually went away after a while - possibly because of a kernel update? [17:43] lotuspsychje: yeah, been fighting with some APs that I think are dieing. [17:44] lotuspsychje: kernel 5.4.0-26 [17:44] lotuspsychje: laptop is hooked to a docking station, so not worried about wifi :) [17:46] lotuspsychje: nvidia driver is working fine. [17:58] Hi [18:00] I installed focal fossa and for some reason the right speaker doesn't work... it is not a hardware issue. I have gone into Sound settings and tested Left and Right speakers. No sound on Right. I have updated and restarted and had the issue since upgrade [18:32] flying_sausages: i don't know, i have never used fwupd before [18:40] vertion: laptop? [19:01] vertion, run 'alsamixer' and check right speaker is muted [20:06] Definitely looks like 'nomodeset' got broken in 20.04 [20:07] The live usb boots fine into safe graphics for the current 19.10 image on a GTX680 but stays stuck on a black screen for the current daily cd image of 20.04 [20:08] This matches the breakage that I am seeing for the recovery boot (which fails unless I remove nomodeset) [20:08] Weirdly, it doesn't seem to be a kernel bug because i installed the focal linux-generic kernels on 19.10 and it didn't break nomodeset [20:10] I am assuming this may be breakage in nouveau? [20:10] I guess the next step is to try to install the focal nouveau packages on 19.10 and see if that breaks nomodeset [20:20] It is interesting that Fedora 32 stayed at 1.0.15 for nouveau rather than going to 1.0.16 [20:50] Any ideas for the floating mouse cursor on my machine? [22:07] Just had a 5min+ screen hang at lockscreen. Now ubuntu want to report the error. How do I see myself what went wrong? [22:08] I have the report problem dialog open, it says gnome shell crash.(ubuntu 20.04) [22:33] /var/crash may have more information [22:33] I will check. [22:34] you can run apport-unpack against .crash files there [22:39] raceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/apport-unpack", line 77, in pr.extract_keys(f, bin_keys, dir) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/problem_report.py", line 269, in extract_keys raise ValueError('%s has no binary content' %ValueError: ['separator'] has no binary contentis the output of apport, Now what to do / How [22:39] to read the unpacked crash? [22:39] HAHA the ubuntu apport just crashed too... oh such an irony. [22:48] I know am looking for something with grep, I don't know what to look for in these files. I think its my nvidia driver that froze my gnome shell, when using grep "nvidia" *, it gives some error in journalErrors like : Nvidia_drm is in use, Nvidia is in use by Nvidia_modset, etc... If any one can point me to what I am looking for in crash, to locate [22:48] the cause of crash, it would be very helpful. [22:55] excited_buddha: Did you upload it? if so, do you mind sharing your /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id ? [22:56] I can upload, I dont know where to? or you do you mean I just click the send report button or manually upload some where? tomreyn [22:56] sending the report is what i mean [22:56] I just pressed send, let me see the ID [22:57] you mean the file? or the data in the whoopsie-id file? [22:57] it should add a new record to the top of the URL printed by this script: echo https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id) [22:58] the data in the whoopsie-id file [22:58] but it may take half an hour or so for this new record to be added [22:59] is my ID safe to share here? [22:59] I have it.. [22:59] anyone who has it can look at the list of errors you reported at the abive location [22:59] 6eb94b54e1a4c59d03449cc89adb98754929d50a9417d819c79ddf7849b74eadd80e756cb6a035fbd03a550bb9e9650fa0675f502f3eb98a32a9dd4daf9ef056 [23:00] so this makes it https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/6eb94b54e1a4c59d03449cc89adb98754929d50a9417d819c79ddf7849b74eadd80e756cb6a035fbd03a550bb9e9650fa0675f502f3eb98a32a9dd4daf9ef056 [23:01] yes i think it is uploaded [23:01] so 03:04 is "just now"? [23:02] the first one is gnome shell, it happened twice, I left my laptop for a few minute, screen locked(as intended) did not open when I tried to press any keys, All I got was a black screen. [23:02] Uploaded just now [23:02] I did not press the send on that for all this time, coz I was worried I would lose the crash, I wanted to investigate. [23:03] Can you help me with it? or lead me in the direction of someone or soemwhere I can get help with this, coz I want to lock my screen again. [23:05] i will probably not be able to help much, but maybe i can point you at an existing error after your upload was analyzed. [23:05] s/error/bug report/ [23:05] that would be very helpful [23:05] s/error/bug report/ what is this? [23:07] ah sorry, that's my way of saying: "i really wanted to write this: maybe i can point you at an existing bug report after your upload was analyzed." [23:08] (i.e. "please subsitute 'error' by 'bug report' in what i just said because i typed it incorrectly") [23:09] Ah okay [23:09] i see the nvidia error messages you discussed earlier [23:09] now I get it, thanks this, learned a new way of saying things. [23:10] ... but it's not clear (to me) whether they're symptomatic or even directly related. [23:10] but can't say what caused the shell to not wake up (display properly) after I woke screen from lock.( maybe its X11 bugging) [23:11] will ubuntu team take a look at it ever? [23:11] you're using X11 though, right, not wayland? [23:11] X11. [23:11] 20.04 has x11 i think only [23:12] s/'i think'/only ; s/only/'i think' [23:12] these crash reports serve as a kind of stack of data which analysis is run over, developers use it to get a better idea of how often users run into the same kinds of problems, so they'll know what needs to be fixed most urgently. [23:13] ofcourse [23:13] they may and will occasionally also inspect those reports individually while working on fixing one of these crashes [23:13] yes I understand [23:13] there's no guarantee that someone will inspect your individual submission, though [23:14] did you install nvidia drivers using ubuntu-drivers / the ubuntu settings GUI? [23:14] GUI=graphical user interface, so the graphical "settings" application [23:14] Yes, the latest 440, but now I am thinking to revert to 390. or maybe the xorg one. coz I dont game. [23:15] thanks for explaining, but I am aware of GUI. [23:16] I will make a new crash report, if it crashes again with the 390, or xorg. [23:16] Thanks for your time tomreyn [23:20] i'm not really into nvidia very much. i know there's some listings on nvidia.com suggesting which driver should be used for which card. but i found them to be unreliable. [23:20] and sometimes contradicting [23:20] excited_buddha: you'Re welcome. i didn't get to look at your latest upload / report, yet, though [23:20] it's probably still waiting (in queue) to being (automatically) analyzed. [23:21] when it's done it'll be listed on top of your errors.ubuntu.com link from above [23:21] oh okay [23:22] FYI, users with nvidia cards might want to check that the safe graphics boot from the live usb works. I am finding on my GTX680 that it hangs on the nomodeset that uses/ [23:23] I am trying to pin down the origin as it doesn't exist in 19.10 [23:23] It also causes the recovery boot to hang. [23:24] I know that the kernel isn't the cause since I can install focals kernel on 19.10 and nomodeset still works [23:24] did you try nomodeset nouveau.modeset=1 ? [23:25] not yet, my next test is to try downgrading plymouth in 20.04 to the 19.10 version [23:25] that went from libplymouth4 to libplymouth5 for casper dependencies [23:26] I'm more interesting in finding the culprit for a sensible bug report than hacking a workaround [23:27] howarth It worked for me in safe graphics, as I ran with it the first time I tried to install 20.04 [23:27] It is really my only gripe with 20.04 [23:27] what card? [23:29] lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999 [23:29] MX 150 (laptotp) [23:30] maybe you exceeded the attention span? ;-) [23:31] howarth: If it will help - I have GeForce GT 710. 20.04 currently on nouvea - if it will help I can see what results in installing the 440 version driver ( throw away install). [23:31] howarth's gone [23:31] tomreyn: thanks - so much for my thoughts :( [23:32] bug reports discovered during test which are linked on the ISO tracker will be looked at [23:33] although the earlier they are reported there, the more likely to be fixed [23:33] Hey Bashing-om Dont worry, it can help me [23:34] If you could be so kind to do the install? and report after restarting(if needed, unlikely), opening a few apps, Locking screen, letting screen go dark/black/blank/oFF, and then try to login again. [23:34] Bashing-om could you ? [23:35] excited_buddha: Well I can - is on another drive - ya got time to await here for my results ? [23:35] I do. [23:35] ETA? [23:36] 20 min~ [23:36] excited_buddha: Ho-kay be a whilke to back out, reboot into 20.04 and run the install. [23:36] while* [23:36] i'll be here. [23:38] valorie how can i link my crash to iso tracker? do i have to go through the iso testing instructions? [23:39] find the one that most closely matches how you installed [23:39] which testcase [23:39] and when you report your result there is a place to link your BR [23:39] just the number is needed [23:40] so first you find the flavor then the ISO you used, then the testcase [23:40] bit of drilling down [23:40] which number? my whoopsie ID? [23:40] been there i can do this much, then? [23:43] i upoaded the crash for now, to make BR, do I do it in launchpad? or it done auto? [23:43] never created a BR [23:46] aha! [23:47] well it's pretty easy -- from inside the install you are reporting about, if possible, from a term: ubuntu-bug packagename [23:47] if you don't know the packagename ask and we'll figure it out [23:47] install or live-session, I should say [23:49] apport collecting info now [23:51] i think this created the .chash file in /var/crash right? i already uploaded that. I ask again, what number you reffer to up, when you said "just the number is needed? [23:52] !bug [23:52] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [23:53] lemme see if I can find a sample BR [23:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chrony/+bug/1872902 for instance [23:54] Launchpad bug 1872902 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "Upgrade to Focal now removes chrony" [Critical,Triaged] [23:55] you would put in 1872902 [23:55] once you finish the bug report in launchpad the URL will change and you can see the number in your browser