[04:45] morning all [05:05] Hi jibel [05:05] hi duflu [05:17] Hi jibel duflu [05:18] Hey callmepk [05:29] Hi also callmepk === diddledan9 is now known as diddledan [06:29] goood morning desktopers [06:31] Hi seb128 [06:37] hey duflu, how are you? [06:37] seb128, pretty average. Only slept lightly as I tried a cheaper way of keeping the bedroom cool. How are you? [06:38] I could do with some extra sleep, days are too short atm and I tend to go back to the computer when everybody goes to bed [06:38] but good otherwise [06:38] Yeah that's not healthy either [06:39] and focal is almost out, I hope to get a bit more sleep after [06:41] Hmm, why is it the new control panel for Xorg fractional scaling doesn't work in my development builds?... [06:46] good morning desktoppers [06:48] good morning [06:50] Hi oSoMoN and didrocks [06:54] re (wifi dropped) [07:01] salut didrocks, hey duflu [07:01] salut oSoMoN [07:08] morning jibel duflu callmepk seb128 oSoMoN didrocks [07:08] Hi marcustomlinson [07:09] hey marcustomlinson, duflu [07:09] duflu: what's the cheaper way of keeping cool? [07:09] marcustomlinson, a fan [07:10] ah yeah. I really don't miss the heat [07:10] It's not even hot. Just not yet cool enough either [07:11] it's just easier to layer up than to keep cool [07:12] that still heavy air that just sits on you [07:12] bleh [07:29] lut oSoMoN, didrocks, marcustomlinson, how are you today? [07:30] Madainn mhath marcustomlinson [07:30] salut seb128, I'm good, and you? [07:31] seb128: doing alright thanks [07:31] oSoMoN: ha :) [07:31] oSoMoN, a bit tired but good otherwise! [07:34] slainte mhath oSoMoN [07:35] salut seb128, ça va, et toi ? [07:35] ça va :) [08:02] ello [08:04] hi marcustomlinson [08:05] hey Laney, callmepk, how are you? [08:06] good! how are you seb128? [08:06] Laney, didrocks, jibel, ubiquity question ... how does one 'reset the state'? [08:06] callmepk, I'm good [08:07] Laney, didrocks, jibel: I quit/restart and it doesn't ask me the partitioning question, I guess it cached the result from the previous start? also should doing print() debugging work? I tried to add some to ubi-prepare.py (and removed the .pyc) but that generated no output [08:08] seb128, you'd have to reset the debconf db in /var/cache/debconf/ [08:09] if it doesn't show you the partitioning page maybe there is an error in the code that makes it crash [08:10] hey Laney [08:10] seb128, if you restart ubiquity, the page should be displayed anyway [08:10] hello seb128 marcustomlinson [08:10] jibel, thx, there was an error, dpkg-reconfigure ubiquity showed it [08:10] I usually debug by outputting to syslog, but stderr also probably works [08:10] syslog.syslog(blah) [08:18] jibel, Laney, not much success :-/ it's like it was not picking my edited file :( [08:20] we had a lot of issues once you acked some partitioning to get it back to reasking it when doing the ZFS work :/ [08:21] I get the page again so that's fine [08:21] it was a code error indeed [08:21] even deleting the seeded part (partman is storing on disk some states IIRC) [08:21] but I added some print() syslog.syslog() and even change some title= [08:21] and none of those is reflected [08:22] hum, we were printing and tailing the logs in ubiquity debug logs IIRC [08:22] syslog goes to the journal [08:22] some other stuff to /var/log/installer/debug [08:22] yep, printing and debug [08:22] my syslog calls don't get there [08:23] but I did [08:23] + self.rst_title_text = 'Bug' [08:23] and [08:23] - page.title = 'ubiquity/text/rst_header' [08:23] + page.title = 'ubiquity/text/label_download_updates' [08:24] but the label is still RST [08:25] ah, works now [08:27] the birth of an installer developer [08:27] we've all been here :-) [08:28] I feel like I've been there but long enough ago that I forgot :p [08:28] i upgraded to focal latest yesterday and my 'windows' key binding for the 'small windows and a searchy thing' has gone away; is this expected [08:29] apw, not expected, did you have a custom key and did reset? or did it stop working at all? [08:30] seb128, as far as i know i had nothing non-standard set there, yesterday i had windows doing the same as the grid of ... in the bottom left, now it takes focus and puts it back but does nothing obvious [08:31] apw, any error in the journal? [08:31] seb128, we have a journal ? [08:31] apw, journalctl -f [08:32] welcome to systemd [08:32] oh the actual journal :) nothing in there when i hit the button no [08:32] :/ [08:32] but clicking on the dock icon works? [08:32] yes, clicking the 9 dots works [08:32] rather you are talking about activity, so top left [08:33] that's a different view [08:33] super is the equivalent of top left 'activity' [08:33] sorry they look very similar to a terminal-jockey, top left activies works yes [08:39] no idea then, does your keyboard have problem and the key bounce/send duplicated events? [08:55] seb128, doesn't look like it no [08:56] i am suspecting i have lost a keybinding; how do i ask what is bound [09:01] it's in gnome-control-center keybindings [09:02] or not? [09:03] in gnome-tweaks at least, keyboard and mouse section [09:04] $ gsettings list-recursively | grep overlay-key [09:05] org.gnome.mutter overlay-key 'Super_L' [09:05] sound right... [09:05] try restartarting gnome-shell I guess? [09:06] there is magic incantion for that isn't there, can you remind me [09:08] ok killing it made it all shiney, still broken [09:08] seb128, also it is the same on two super-l keys [09:13] :-/ [09:13] Trevinho, ^ any clue how to debug that issue? [10:04] apw, maybe see bug 1871913 [10:04] bug 1871913 in mutter (Ubuntu) "super key does not work with secondary keyboard layout" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871913 [10:05] Plenty of people report Super not working [10:07] duflu, seems like work rls reviewing, I tagged it now [10:21] Laney, can you check my comment in https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/382742 and confirm whether it's a risk or not? [10:22] jibel, the MP isn't make it translatable, it was already translatable, it's just shipping some .po updates [10:22] but yeah, I guess it would be better left out of the string [10:23] well [10:23] we do control source uploads of ubiquity so risk is low [10:23] you could do lots of damage in various ways as a translator [10:23] If you wanted to be malicious, and if you did it in free text it would be quite unlikely to be picked up [10:24] seb128, agreed, it means a code change to let it out of the translation. just missed it during the initial landing, which has not been reviewed [10:25] and that's actually the only URL in all the pot files [10:26] jibel, sounds like a good idea to let the URL out, would it only to avoid the risk of translators screwing the URL by mistake [10:26] but I would prefer avoiding breaking the translations now [10:26] so I would do it for next cycle [10:28] so I'd say probably replace the URL with {URL} or something and substitute in the code [10:28] that would be an ok fix [10:30] Laney, https://pasteboard.co/J4YkNim.png [10:34] w00t [10:34] duflu: oh I do have a secondary keyboard layout [10:34] * duflu nods [10:34] seb128: did you notice how the dialog resizes? [10:34] it's because of a long string in the secure boot text [10:35] would be good to wrap that one [10:47] seb128, I suggest it will be faster to get Nvidia hardware to Marco than for me to understand the xrandr patch. [10:47] Anyway, back Tuesday [10:47] duflu: I have prime hw should be enough [10:47] Not sure [10:48] Trevinho, no only if you're using the CRTCs attached to Nvidia, like a dedicated HDMI [10:48] I will try with that, but need to setup my other partition... [10:48] yeah, I imagine that case isn't the same [10:48] otherwise it's using your Intel GPU and modeset [10:50] Trevinho, some parting suggestions: (1) bug 1874207 needs fixing; (2) some ceilf calls look wrong and produce incorrect screen sizes. So *some* of them need to be removed. And other changes I don't know yet [10:50] bug 1874207 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Compiler warnings in x11-Add-support-for-fractional-scaling-using-Randr.patch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874207 [10:51] is rolling out 20.04 to https://help.ubuntu.com/ by tomorrow scheduled/remembered? I'd like to link to that in press release. [10:52] hmm, I can just link to the root as well === cpaelzer__ is now known as cpaelzer [11:03] Laney, I will have a look at the string wrap [11:03] nice one [13:11] Laney, bug #1871538 ... would probably make sense to add a comment with your reproducer loop from the other day? [13:11] bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871538 [13:12] seb128: I would but it stopped working for me so I wasn't confident that it was correct :( [13:13] k [13:15] hang on I'll share it and maybe someone can try [13:16] In one window do: [13:16] while true; do dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call -dest=org.freedesktop.DBus org.freedesktop.DBus.ReloadConfig > /dev/null; done [13:17] In another window do: [13:17] while true; do sudo systemctl daemon-reload; done [13:27] correct syntax for those who want to try [13:27] $ while true; do dbus-send --print-reply --system --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus / org.freedesktop.DBus.ReloadConfig > /dev/null; done [13:27] no crash here so far [13:28] jibel: Have you done that B to F upgrade test? [13:29] Laney, nope, doesn't trigger it for me [13:29] seb128, Laney: do I have to have anything special installed? Like something from proposed? or just a regular up to date system [13:30] marcustomlinson, regular focal [13:30] ok yeah been running for maybe 3 minutes now, no crash [13:31] k, indeed seems not good enough to trigger the bug [13:44] seb128: did you see my email about the msgmerge issue? [13:44] kenvandine, did you get my reply to your email about the msgmerge issue? :p [13:44] i guess not :) [13:44] oh, weird [13:44] it was half an hour ago [13:45] want to me to send again? [13:45] got it [13:45] :) [13:45] i had checked for a reply a bit ago but took a while to ping you :) [13:45] :-) [13:45] i'll try that [13:45] thx [13:46] seb128, Laney: I've had this loop running for 10 minutes and all is good still [13:46] thx [13:47] I guess Laney was right that it's not working as a testcase === ping is now known as niko [14:12] seb128: i confirmed that msgmerge fix worked [14:12] kenvandine, wooot :) [14:12] any ideas why that launchpad export was weird? [14:15] kenvandine, not y et [14:26] kenvandine, I asked on #launchpad and they asked me to open a bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1874269 [14:26] Ubuntu bug 1874269 in Launchpad itself "Translations export from a project give a tarball with split directories" [Undecided,New] [14:36] seb128: thanks! [14:36] seb128: not a big deal, it's easy enough to repack it and we already need to do a manual process to update them anyway [14:37] seb128: can you please test rev 432 from beta? [14:46] kenvandine, great, those strings are correctly displayed in french now [14:46] yay [14:47] kenvandine, I could also test the snap listed in gnome-software, being updated, changing tab [14:47] no segfault [14:47] need another build though as all the other arches failed... [14:47] oh, and annoying issue, snap-store doesn't display the categories now :/ [14:47] I see the banner [14:47] distro selection row [14:47] recent vesion row [14:47] and nothing else [14:47] oh? it should! [14:48] I know, it was yesterday, some of the categories were test cases to see if translations update were there [14:48] there's been no code changes... [14:48] I've a 'failed to get categories: no categories to show' in the log [14:48] maybe a server issue [14:50] kenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fp7Zm8YNNP/ [14:50] i'm seeing the same thing [14:50] without refreshing snap-store [14:50] so it must be the server [14:51] we get the list of categories with a query to snapd [14:51] where is the right place to mention it? #is? [14:51] yeah [14:52] i think so [14:52] i'm asking [14:54] seb128: known issue, should be restored ~nowish [15:03] kenvandine, k, thx [15:04] kenvandine, categories are back :) [15:04] :) [15:20] hey desktopers :) [15:20] seb128, hi, may I remind you of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1874133 [15:21] Ubuntu bug 1874133 in vala (Ubuntu) " [SRU] Update to vala 0.48.4 in focal" [Undecided,New] [15:22] ricotz, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=vala [15:22] ricotz, and hey :) [15:23] seb128, aaah, ok [15:23] good morning desktopers [15:24] hey ricotz and hellsworth [15:24] hi there kenvandine [15:25] kenvandine, hellsworth, hey [15:30] good morning hellsworth [15:30] hey ricotz [15:30] hi there didrocks ricotz [15:37] hey ricotz and hellsworth [15:37] hey there marcustomlinson [15:44] hey ricotz [15:44] good morning hellsworth [15:45] hi oSoMoN [15:45] hellsworth, I looked briefly into bug #1869561, but I didn't come to any conclusions, and I'm not familiar with the code that opens the help [15:45] bug 1869561 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Focal) "Libreoffice Help does not work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1869561 [15:46] hellsworth, I'd say you'll need to find out which code is involved in opening the help, and understand why it's taking an old code path (local help viewer instead of opening in browser) [15:46] ah thanks for looking.. like i said in the email i sent, i thought i found the cause.. there's nothing else that sticks out to me so it will be a more in-depth investigation than i had hoped [15:47] thanks.. i figured it didn't hurt to ask if anyone was familiar with the help code jsut in case [15:47] sorry I'm not helping (pun not intended) much… [15:47] :) i appreciate your look into it [15:47] and puns are great. they should always be intended :) [15:49] didrocks, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, hi [16:38] Hello friends! Hope the release is going as well as can be expected :) I tested on the haunted laptop earlier today, nothing broke \m/ Good luck with the release. Miss you! [16:38] seb128: i released the new snap-store build to ubuntu-20.04 track [16:38] willcooke!!!! [16:39] willcooke: we miss you [16:42] Was hoping to be heading to London tomorrow to buy some folks beer :( [16:47] willcooke: sad times [16:51] * Laney virtual cheers willcooke [16:52] it's sad not being in the office this week :( [16:52] Laney, I drank a Punk IPA last night and it bought back memories [16:53] ♥ [16:53] gotta go, good luck all. I'll be back to watch the release go out tomorrow [16:53] l8r allig8r [17:07] seb128, ahh ok its 'second keyboard langue' which makes super break cc: dufue === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch === ijohnson|lunch is now known as ijohnson [17:54] ah I missed will [18:00] apw, ah, good to know, I didn't picture you as a muti-layout man so well done duflu for guessing that one :-) [18:05] jibel: didrocks.. LP #1874302 [18:05] Launchpad bug 1874302 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ZFS installation never prompts for security passphrase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874302 [18:09] also there were some discrepancies not sure if they're worth filing a bug or the test case is just outdated... http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/412/builds/211063/testcases/1716/results/ [18:13] hellsworth, oh, thanks. That's actually an error in the test case itself. There is no encryption yet, hence no security passphrase. [18:13] marcustomlinson: I'm going to bug you about LO now that you're back, to relieve oSoMoN a bit :) [18:13] I'll fix it [18:14] jibel: ah ok then oops. [18:14] would you mind taking a look at the other differences i mentioned in my test results and see if any other updates to the testcase are needed? [18:15] marcustomlinson: 6.4.3 for focal has been looked at by ricotz , all autopkgtests are passing in my ppa, and there's an sru open for it. i'm uploading the artifacts for you in google drive now, if you wouldn't mind taking a look when you get a chance [18:22] hellsworth: sure I'll have a look in the morning [18:22] sounds good. thanks. [19:12] have a good evening everyone, see you all on release day :) [20:02] kenvandine, trying to look at the snap-store segfault I see those warnings in the log which might be something to fix as well [20:02] Gtk /snap/snap-store/429/gnome-platform/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/immodules/im-ibus.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [20:06] kenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NxZ2r4QFVg/ is the bt (started the snap-store from the normal distro without wrapper with just ld paths set) [20:08] seb128: snap info gnome-3-34-1804 [20:08] kenvandine, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZTPHbgzVpS/ is with gobject from the system so debug symbols for those [20:09] kenvandine, 24 installed [20:09] 12 days ago [20:09] from beta [20:10] /snap/snap-store/433/gnome-platform/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/immodules/im-ibus.so [20:10] i have that file [20:11] it's weird that it would fail to find that [20:11] that's unrelated though [20:11] channels: [20:11] latest/stable: 0+git.2c86692 2020-04-08 (24) 252MB - [20:11] latest/candidate: 0+git.2c86692 2020-03-27 (24) 252MB - [20:11] latest/beta: ↑ [20:11] latest/edge: 0+git.2c86692 2020-03-27 (24) 252MB - [20:11] installed: 0+git.2c86692 (24) 252MB - [20:12] i'll look at the stack trace later tonight [20:12] thanks for that! [20:12] np [20:13] actually [20:13] mind filing a bug including that? [20:13] not very easy to read, gtk/glib itself it seems [20:14] Ok, whoever's idea that nice, pleasant startup tone was on the live CD boot.... [20:14] ... [20:14] BRAVO!!! [20:17] kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1874326 [20:17] Ubuntu bug 1874326 in snap-store "sigabrt when selecting the update tab" [Undecided,New] [20:17] seb128: thanks