| lotuspsychje | good morning | 00:47 |
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| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> morning lotuspsychje | 00:54 |
| lotuspsychje | hey there @philipz | 00:54 |
| * oerheks needs wobbly windows | 00:56 | |
| lotuspsychje | there's still an extension for it somewhere | 00:56 |
| lotuspsychje | and i bet it still works on unity desktop + ccsm | 00:57 |
| * guiverc may get dizzy with wobbly windows, no thanks | 02:04 | |
| lotuspsychje | i had fun with those :p | 02:04 |
| lotuspsychje | wobbly terminal rox :p | 02:04 |
| guiverc | they did look real cool, and were fun (awhile anyway).. but not helpful productivity wise (most of the time anyway) | 02:05 |
| Cruft | Can index-on-battery please be turned off by default if it caches all dirs and/or updates? | 04:37 |
| Cruft | Also what is going on with centered notifications... it covers up the only information at a glance you could look at and want at any second or networking configuration. (The time) | 04:41 |
| valorie | Cruft: what are you testing? | 04:48 |
| Cruft | 20.04 | 04:48 |
| valorie | this chan is for testing all flavors | 04:48 |
| Cruft | regular | 04:48 |
| valorie | of course 20.04 | 04:49 |
| valorie | by regular I take it you mean Ubuntu? | 04:49 |
| Cruft | yes | 04:49 |
| valorie | I don't know what packagename you would file a bug report for those issues | 04:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Cruft: install dconf-editor and check a lot of battery settings there | 04:50 |
| Cruft | i have been | 04:51 |
| Cruft | i had to make pages of modifications and look over which ones should be defaults probably | 04:51 |
| Cruft | i understand the usb protection isn't ready yet i get that | 04:51 |
| Cruft | the gnome ColorHelper default-profile-uri one is still on a broken http 404 link | 04:52 |
| lotuspsychje | Cruft: there's 2 values on org/freedesktop/tracker/miner/files about index on battery | 04:52 |
| Cruft | who's cert is owned by the guys hypnotist birth fetish website | 04:52 |
| Cruft | yeh one is first boot but then on first boot it will tell you to reboot because chances are the person isn't using daily | 04:53 |
| Cruft | so now realistically you're on second boot, indexing files on battery | 04:53 |
| Cruft | i've been waiting on GIMPNet to see if those files are indexed from all dirs or not | 04:54 |
| Cruft | and what is a huge complaint about linux on laptops? battery usage | 04:55 |
| Cruft | I don't even want to know how many reviewers at ars or similar sites have unknowingly been indexing files while running battery tests asking if linux is ready yet | 04:56 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> welcome @totallynotavirus | 07:42 |
| shaban238 | snap store is not background-less anymore :) | 07:52 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> sweet | 07:52 |
| shaban238 | ristretto though has the blue corner bug still | 07:53 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> that's an upstream bug now and nothing can be done with it other than maybe changing the theme | 07:54 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> or using a different image viewer. i use pix | 07:54 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> aka gThumb | 07:55 |
| shaban238 | sorry i got disconnected didnt catch that? | 07:55 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> that's an upstream bug now and nothing can be done with it other than maybe changing the theme | 07:55 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> or using a different image viewer. i use pix aka gThumb | 07:55 |
| shaban238 | aha ok . its still usable. maybe will wait :) | 07:56 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> reminds me that i should file an enhancement for ristretto | 07:57 |
| shaban238 | tomorrow will be the official release date right? | 07:57 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> yes | 07:57 |
| shaban238 | any other bug fixesto be expected for the final release? | 07:57 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> not any different from the last few days | 07:58 |
| shaban238 | as far as you may know at least | 07:59 |
| shaban238 | ah ok | 07:59 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> for the last week, its been bug fixes only | 07:59 |
| shaban238 | i have tested it and apart from some minor things ubuntu studio its perfect :) | 07:59 |
| shaban238 | i installed it on my other laptop also, i had this screen tearing but was able to throw a tearfree "true" line and now it seems good | 08:01 |
| Cruft | Its not perfect, it indexes on battery | 08:01 |
| shaban238 | hm it worked good with my battery though | 08:02 |
| Cruft | Good compared to windows? | 08:02 |
| Cruft | Death by a thousand cuts | 08:02 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> shaban238: have you tried the new screen tearing fix without tearfree | 08:03 |
| shaban238 | i did not try windows on my thinkpad, but i can say i got 7 hours of battery without any problem | 08:03 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/tree/COMPOSITOR#n114 | 08:03 |
| Cruft | If windows gave me 7 hours i would return the laptop | 08:03 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> Cruft which flavor? | 08:03 |
| Cruft | regular, 20.04 | 08:04 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> so its a gnome indexing feature for search? | 08:04 |
| Cruft | gsettings get org.freedesktop.Tracker.Miner.Files index-on-battery | 08:04 |
| shaban238 | sorry how should i try this that you send me? | 08:04 |
| shaban238 | for the screen tearing | 08:04 |
| Cruft | There's no reason in the age of M.2 SATA and now, NVME that this should be a thing | 08:05 |
| Cruft | Think about it as a user. User installs point release (non updated, not daily). User has to reboot because msgbox tells them to. | 08:06 |
| Cruft | Now you're on second boot before you even got through or started indexing, making don't index on first boot useless | 08:06 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> shaban238 not likely related to us xfce users | 08:07 |
| shaban238 | because after fresh install i got the screen tearing and the only way was to add a file for my intel graphic card with tearfree line and now i dont have the problem anymore but if this is a better solution it would be great | 08:08 |
| Cruft | Ubuntu should be detecting this on install, even whitelisting cards | 08:12 |
| Cruft | Why bother with visual installers if you aren't using that variable to your advantage | 08:12 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> did you file a bug report Cruft? | 08:14 |
| Cruft | Nope | 08:14 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> well things won't get better if people dont file bugs :D | 08:15 |
| Cruft | I'm telling you about quality improvements i had to make so that i hopefully won't have to be here next LTS release | 08:15 |
| Cruft | i mean, i can only lead a horse to water | 08:15 |
| Cruft | launchpad is crap, sorry | 08:15 |
| Cruft | i think i used to have an account and i had to use it for lots of stuff and it didn't even have git support yet and just never agian | 08:16 |
| Cruft | mercurial i think | 08:16 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> shaban238: yes give it a try as intel mentions that tearfree is more resource intensive | 08:16 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> i agree with you Cruft that launchpad isnt user friendly | 08:17 |
| shaban238 | thank you i will read through the one that you sent me | 08:17 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> launchpad has some git repos now | 08:17 |
| Cruft | Its overengineered and too busy. It reminds me of one of those optical illusions thats a square version of seashell for UI design | 08:18 |
| Cruft | I couldn't even take my words seriously if someone asked me how to download a file from it | 08:19 |
| Cruft | What Kirk(Dirk?whatever) did for baseline rootfs/snap size, someone needs to do for tooling and ui and technical debit of web tooling | 08:21 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <Rikparis> Can you share the. conkyrc? (re @troyBORG: ) | 12:29 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <chrisjimallen> Well the two gripes i had with 20.04 have now been fixed, so thank you to whoever fixed the VPN stuff and the desktop icon stuff. Coming from a mac user of 10+ years, this is turning into my favourite desktop OS ever. | 13:30 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> @chrisjimallen how long have you been a convert? | 13:35 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <chrisjimallen> about 2 months, use it for a daily driver, im a dev. i use a win VM purely for the dreaded adobe stuff. | 13:38 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <chrisjimallen> main use is web dev, & server admin. cant see why id ever go back now tbh. | 13:40 |
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| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> congrats and welcome to the freedom | 13:42 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <chrisjimallen> 👍ty (re @philipz: congrats and welcome to the freedom) | 13:47 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> welcome @Xboxambassadorsnakehunter4168 | 14:03 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Morning everyone | 14:24 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> afternoon @ItzSwirlz | 14:24 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I'm not sure about this but it looks like for some of the products, daily is still being built | 14:24 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Don't see any for today but I do for yesterday | 14:24 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> nvm-they are the same as final | 14:25 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Xubuntu needs testing | 14:25 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> I can try and run a no-network | 14:25 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Okay so I will run a No Network and the Post Install test-if I can on a VM ill do the OEM Setup | 14:27 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> And for testing upgrades i'll spin the wheel | 14:28 |
| Eickmeyer | Hey guys. Release team found a nasssssstttttyyyyyy bug in Ubiquity, and they're working on that right now. We're talking breakage-level stuff. | 14:30 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> started testing UC and was curious why you didnt change the boot logo | 14:30 |
| lotuspsychje | ok Eickmeyer tnx | 14:30 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> thanks for the update. luckily it was caught in time. | 14:31 |
| Eickmeyer | Oh, if it had been caught post-release, they would've done a respin. This kind of stuff doesn't go unfixed for long. | 14:31 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer: the subiquity bug? | 14:48 |
| Eickmeyer | RikMills: I think that's the issue. | 14:49 |
| RikMills | e.g. server images | 14:49 |
| Eickmeyer | There was also something with LVM encryption which was spotted. | 14:49 |
| RikMills | that subiquity bug is lvm | 14:50 |
| RikMills | LP: #1874243 | 14:52 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1874243 in curtin " An error occured handling 'dm_crypt-0': TypeError - join() argument must be str or bytes, not 'NoneType'" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874243 | 14:52 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <ItzSwirlz> Nooo (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <Eickmeyer> Hey guys. Release team found a nasssssstttttyyyyyy bug in Ubiquity, and they're working on that right now. We're talking breakage-level stuff.) | 15:03 |
| Eickmeyer | RikMills: Yep, that's the bug. For some reason my mind separated them when they're clearly not separate. | 15:04 |
| shaban238 | sorry whats the command to send a bug directly to lauchpad? im trying but the page keeps refreshing and i would need a command that would allow me to connect | 16:30 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> ubuntu-bug | 16:31 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> then the name of the package | 16:31 |
| shaban238 | thank you! | 16:34 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> here is a video if you ever forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTyzyY9RHw&t=517s | 16:35 |
| shaban238 | great. i will need that :) | 16:36 |
| shaban238 | can i ask what happen if i do not record the bug in lauchpad but just press send when that popup shows? | 16:38 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <philipz> you dont have to open up the details before sending. watch the video as its quite useful. | 16:44 |
| shaban238 | ok | 16:44 |
| ubuntutestingbot | <system> file troyBORG.tar.gz too big to download (1315207 > allowed size: 1000000) | 17:24 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <troyBORG> (re @Rikparis: Can you share the. conkyrc?) | 17:24 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Lubuntu amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:25 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Kubuntu amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:26 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu Server amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:26 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:26 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Xubuntu amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:26 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu Studio amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:26 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu MATE amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:26 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade UbuntuKylin amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200421) | 17:26 | |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <troyBORG> (re @troyBORG: )Just threw it on the newest Daily. One thing you may wanna do when editing it. Is change the thing for the Kernel so instead of stripping out the -MANJARO is strips off the -generic that Ubuntu does. : | 17:31 |
| jibel | images are rebuilding, hopefully it'll be the final images, get ready to test it! | 19:28 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <RikMills> \o/ | 19:29 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:30 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base armhf [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:30 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base s390x [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:30 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base arm64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:30 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Base ppc64el [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:30 | |
| jibel | it includes fixes to install the right kernel and graphics drivers on systems with nVidia GPUs | 19:31 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:31 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:32 | |
| valorie | good to hear, jibel | 19:34 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:34 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server ppc64el [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:34 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:34 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:34 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:41 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server armhf+raspi [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:41 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64+raspi [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:41 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:42 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:46 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity ppc64el [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:46 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:46 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:46 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:50 | |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 19:56 | |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> desktop environment packaging for debian is... painful. | 19:58 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <RikMills> yep | 19:59 |
| valorie | and @RikMills might be the world's foremost expert on that subject | 20:00 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> @RikMills How do I do it? I am staring at how MATE does it and can't figure it out | 20:01 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <RikMills> Find someone who know, and copy them! 😂 | 20:01 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> *easier said than done* | 20:02 |
| Eickmeyer | It took me SO long to learn Debian packaging for anything. Now... RPM packaging? Child's play by comparison. | 20:03 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> I've done snap, RPM, AUR, Pacman, and even Debian | 20:03 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> BUT GOD DO I HATE DEBIAN PACKAGING | 20:03 |
| Eickmeyer | 🤣 | 20:03 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <RikMills> If you read the Debian Policy Manual from end to end, it all becomes clear.... | 20:06 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <KaiLoveLinux> ... no, false, not correct | 20:06 |
| ubuntutestingbot | [telegram] <RikMills> Oh, wait, maybe not.... | 20:08 |
| Eickmeyer | Clear as mud. No... clear as pottery clay. | 20:08 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 20:10 | |
| valorie | I've read that a few times and still have no clue how to actually package something | 20:20 |
| valorie | I decided that my talents lie elsewhere | 20:20 |
| -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422) | 20:22 | |
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