[00:01] how much is "a little space " [00:02] Boyette: 1GB would be enough [00:03] how about plcoud.com [00:04] Sign up and get 10 GB free cloud storage [00:04] seems ... non-English =) [00:05] non english? [00:05] pcloud.com [00:05] sorry [00:05] typ error [00:06] https://www.pcloud.com/ [00:08] I think I looked into that earlier but I will try again. Sure it is free? [00:08] yes for 10gb its free [00:08] just check the homepage its stating clearly [00:08] and have linux support [00:08] aswell [00:10] 18.04 I want to find out how big the USB drive is It has [00:10] in gui or terminal? [00:11] It has a non bootable 1910 on it now and I'm just going to overwrite the whole thing. Since I can't tell the size from details I tried to format it and I get error formatting volume This partition cannot be modified because it contains a partition table; Please re-initialize layout of the whole device paren you discs - error-quark comma 11 end pare [00:11] n [00:11] Boyette. I was using the gooey but how do I look at the size in terminal? [00:12] tripelb: ' sudo parted -l ' [00:14] I think all those results are on my hard drive Bashing-om [00:14] I'm looking at a USB drive because I want to see if I can put a persistent ubuntu image on it [00:15] Wait.. one is fat32 [00:18] Bashing-om not very big. Properties says 2.3G and parted says 2.14G. What the difference? [00:19] The reason I didn't believe properties is because it also said free space unknown. [00:19] I'll just do a regular installation. === Goop is now known as smallguy === smallguy is now known as Goop [00:20] tripelb: Got me - I feel that "parted" is the more reliable. [00:27] Boyette, seem to be a monthly fee but you can try it out? Atleast the application [00:27] pCloud offers 10 GB of free storage for each signup. You can further increase it up to 20 GB by inviting friends, sharing links on social media etc. [00:28] only if you want more then that there is a monthly fee or a one time payment [00:29] just sign up and you will immediately be able to download the linux client [00:30] can i upgrade to 20.04 LTS beta already and smoothly out of beta on the 23rd? [00:31] erkki4, sure, but keep a fresh usb with the iso ready. [00:31] erkki4: Yup - keep updated and you will have the final. [00:31] cool ty [00:31] Mmm now I see 1.029G more in ntfs. (Sorry but I am learning) [00:32] erkki4 yes you can [00:33] OK I was thinking, install 19.10 and have a smooth update to 20.04 is this true? (Even if it isn't I'm doing this because each time is one more practice) [00:33] hello, i'm trying to build something using meson and i'm getting this error: meson.build:16:0: ERROR: Dependency "gio-2.0" not found, [00:33] does that mean i need this package? librust-gio-sys-dev [00:34] or perhaps this package? gir1.2-glib-2.0 [00:34] Back to my first question, why can't I reformat the flash drive? ff [00:35] I'm looking at a USB drive because I want to see if I can put a persistent ubuntu image on it [00:35] It has a non bootable 1910 on it now and I'm just going to overwrite the whole thing. Since I can't tell the size from details I tried to format it and I get error formatting volume This partition cannot be modified because it contains a partition table; Please re-initialize layout of the whole device paren you discs - error-quark comma 11 end pare [00:35] n [00:36] @Boyette, I see it isn't the system [00:36] it isnt the system? [00:38] Now I typed gnome disks And it tells me that the SMI USB DISK is 8.2 GB [00:39] This means that what parted was telling me was only one partition on the USB. That's pretty dumb because it makes me dumber. [00:40] I think I'm just going to try installing the system on the disk and see if it gives me a choice to use the whole disk. I feel like I'm doing a bodge [00:44] the iso is one partition on the usb. read only. [00:45] tripelb: My result: " sysop@x1804mini:~$ sudo parted -l >> Disk /dev/sda: 250GB " then the indiviual partitions are listed. [00:46] install will be one partition too, no swap partition but swappfile [00:54] anyone have a recommendation for 10GBASE-T adapters for ubuntu? [00:54] !hardware | kenperkins start here [00:54] kenperkins start here: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [01:03] Hey guys - does anyone else randomly lose DNS lookups for some domains while browsing? When I reset my network adapter it works just fine. I'm not sure what causes it or what the reason only some domains are affected. When it happens nslookup and resolvectl query both cant find some domains [01:04] atlassian is one of the affected domains. There are others === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [01:05] resolvectl flush-caches seems to fix it. I'm not sure how to root cause this issue. Any suggestions/ideas much appreciated [01:05] kenperkins pci-e? [01:06] I only have two options in my resolve.conf: "nameserver 127.0.0.53" and "options edns0" [01:06] @gonutsfordonuts using a vpn? [01:06] Boyette - nope. no VPN at this time [01:07] and as I say that, I found a new intel card [01:07] yea Boyette, got a x540T1 [01:07] ok [01:08] gonutsfordonuts, do you use custom dns? [01:09] Boyette - I dont believe so. I've never configured any DNS on my laptop. I might have explicitly set some DNS settings on my router however....Will check that now === Israphel is now known as Guest21648 === Israphel_ is now known as Israphel [01:15] Boyette - I cant find any custom DNS configurations on my router anywhere. As far as I know/can tell I'm using stock configs for my hardware/distro [01:15] how about in your modem? [01:15] anyway try to change the dns to 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 [01:15] to see if that makes a difference [01:16] modem is in bridge mode. Unless my ISP is doing something shady it shouldnt be doing anything on my network aside from signal conversion... [01:16] k will do, standby [01:17] oh [01:17] still change it in your modem then because then you wont use the DNS of your ISP but google instead [01:18] if that fixes it the problem is probably in the DNS of your ISP [01:18] Oh scratch that - i do have some custom DNS settings. They are just specifying which DNS servers to use. One of them is a DNS managed by my ISP...i'll change that to the google one [01:19] gonutsfordonuts, ;) [01:19] Boyette - OK ill see if I can do that. I'm not sure how at this point - my modem doesnt appear as a device on my network in the same way the router does. Unless theres some sneaky nmap thing I can do to find it im not sure how to configure it [01:21] which modem [01:21] you can also try to change it only on your laptop === zbenjamin is now known as Guest84606 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:30] Is ubuntu 20.04 come with low latency kernel by default? [01:31] tpham, no? [01:31] ubuntu studio will? [01:31] I installed then check the kernel, it was low latency kernel [01:32] After that I remove all low latency kernel and nvidia driver, then install hwe 20.04 generic kernel [01:33] then check, the kernel was generic [01:33] tpham: Do you have an Nvidia graphics card? [01:33] then I run `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`, the kernel turn into low latency kernel again [01:33] Eickmeyer yes [01:34] tpham: That's why. Known bug, should be fixed soon. [01:34] Thank you. [01:34] The Nvidia drivers were pulling-in the lowlatency kernel for unknown reasons. [01:35] btw, can I have Reverse PRIME with nvidia graphic card [01:36] My laptop can not work with external monitor without using nvidia graphic card [01:36] tpham: Understandable that you would need the driver then. Fix should be out soon. [01:44] No, I mean could I have something like bumblebee but work with nvidia proprietary drivers. [01:45] tpham: for hybrid nvidia/intel its nvidia-prime you need now [01:50] lotuspsychje But this said that it's has not been supporte [01:50] https://forum.manjaro.org/t/nvidia-render-offloading-help-getting-external-monitor-working/99430/22 [01:50] tpham: wich card do you have? [01:51] I have GTX 1650, my machine is Thinkpad X1 extreme gen 2 [01:51] Seem like the HDMI and DP port are wired with nvidia card. [01:52] lspci show this: [01:52] `01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU117M [GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile / Max-Q] (rev a1)` [01:53] tpham: I have a GTX 1650 with zero issues so long as I use the Nvidia proprietary driver. If I use Noveau (in the kernel), I get sluggish performance at best. [01:54] okay i'm running ubuntu 20.04 and i gotta say it's pretty smooth [01:54] That's on a desktop, no hybrid. [01:54] Actually I have two problem with nvidia on my laptop [01:55] HDMI port does not work, recognize the external monitor but the external monitor does not display anything [01:55] And I can not run `on-demand` mode with external monitor. [01:55] tpham: wich driver in use please? [01:55] Eickmeyer Running on `nvidia` mode is good on my machine [01:56] lotuspsychje [01:56] Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 630 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:3e9b Device-2: NVIDIA TU117M [GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile / Max-Q] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia v: 440.64 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1f91 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting compositor: [01:56] compton resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 630 (CFL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.0.4 direct render: Yes [01:57] tpham: we saw a few bugs passby last days on 440, switching drivers solved [01:58] Don't get me wrong, running with `prime-select nvidia` is fine (but HDMI port is not working). [01:58] !paste | tpham: for future reference [01:58] tpham: for future reference: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:59] Thank you === leion1 is now known as leion [02:02] tpham: Update your system - "This bug was fixed in the package ubiquity - 20.04.15" . [02:02] lotuspsychje Can I have something similar to this on nvidia graphic card: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PRIME#Reverse_PRIME [02:03] Hi Ubuntu, how to get/install the driver on ubuntu 18.04 for VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP102 [GeForce GTX 1080 Ti] [10de:1b06] [02:03] Bashing-om which bug? [02:03] sorry [02:03] please ignore. [02:04] tpham: he low-latenecy kernel install: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1873867 . [02:04] Launchpad bug 1873867 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Focal) "ubuntu-drivers changes kernel flavour when installing nvidia" [Undecided,Confirmed] [02:04] Thank you [02:05] I have another bug few day ago. After installed nvidia driver, I rebooted my machine, then got a black screen with single `_` [02:06] I fixed that by black noveau module [02:06] sorry, black->blacklist [02:07] tpham: secure boot enabled such that the nvidia module can not build ? [02:07] No, it's disabled. [02:07] I think both noveau and nvidia driver were loaded, so they they got conflict [02:08] tpham: installing the Nvidia driver should blacklist nouveau in the install process :( [02:11] I think there is a bug with nvidia installer, because I get this twice [02:12] The first time is few week ago, I didn't know how to fix that so I installed manjaro [02:12] tpham: Are you installing from the Nvidia website or the driver in the "Additional Drivers" tab of "Software & Updates"? [02:12] Yes. === leion1 is now known as leion [02:13] That wasn't an Inclusive Or. [02:13] Eickmeyer: ^ :D [02:14] Boyette I'm back lol. just changed that DNS setting on my router to google...will see if that helps. Chances are I should have just done it on my laptop given that im the only one experiencing this issue as far as i know. Modem is Hitron C2MN-2250 [02:14] Sorry, I only read the second phrase. I installed using additional drivers tab of Software & Updates [02:14] Ok, good. Just making sure. [02:14] But, the bug is definitely being worked on. [02:14] Thank you [02:15] The last problem I have is flicker free boot not working on my machine [02:15] tpham: I have the same issue. That's a problem with using Nvidia on Linux. [02:15] tpham: confirmed - #ubuntu-release: still working on the Nvidia driver. [02:15] CGMN-2250* [02:16] No, I booted in intel mode [02:16] I mean `prime-select intel` [02:16] tpham: Whatever you do, don't go to #ubuntu-release asking what the status is on the driver. [02:17] '=D [02:17] I got Lenvo logo -> black screen -> Lenovo logo with spinner -> black screen -> gdm -> black screen -> gnome ;( [02:18] tpham: Unfortunately, that's just part of running Nvidia on Linux. They don't exactly support Linux very well, so you can't expect a 100% flicker-free boot unlike AMD and Intel which actively contribute to the kernell. [02:20] But I switched into intel GPU mode [02:21] tpham: Something about your hardware though. If Nvidia is involved (the meer presence of the hardware is "involved"), then you can't expect it to be flawless. [02:21] Thank you [02:21] I only get flicker-free on my AMD laptop. [02:22] The last problem I have GPU usage when opening `youtube` is very high [02:22] tpham: Since you're running a GPU-intensive website (youtube), that's to be expected. The browser is likely using hardware accelleration, which youtube takes full advantage of. [02:22] is there a good way to debug my ubuntu system? [02:23] right now the mouse and keyboard go completely dead and screen freezes when I login to either gdm or lightdm to a gnome shell session [02:23] i think sddm as well [02:23] Eickmeyer play on netflix does not have that problem. [02:24] johnjay can you tried Ctrl + Alt + F3 [02:24] tpham: Different website, different set of codecs and accelleration. [02:24] can't do that either [02:24] only thin gi can do is alt-sysrq-b to reboot [02:24] once it freezes that's it [02:24] tpham: Youtube is just notorious for being GPU-intensive, even on Windows. [02:25] Thank you, good to know that [02:25] johnjay Can you tried to boot into recovery mode in grub menu [02:25] i can get into rescue mode and bring up networking and do basic changes [02:25] yes. i'/ve tried fiddling with various systemd settings [02:26] esp since the UUID of my swap changed for ... no reason? [02:26] and it was forcing a check of it for 90s every boot. so i updated /etc/fstab with the new uuid [02:26] but i'm not sure how to diagnose a failure like this [02:26] i tried purging and reinstalling gnome-shell as well [02:26] hard drive is fine i think, as is memory after i ran a memtest. i'm stumped [02:28] i even changed from nvidia to nouveau driver. still nothing [02:29] What's your fstab mount config [02:29] right now just the partition and swap [02:29] i #'d out the other drives [02:30] i have a windows drive and a linux drive and a storage drive [02:30] so i commented the other two out [02:30] maybe someone knows more about systemd than i do can say how to get more detail [02:31] i could mount the disk and maybe examine the journal file? (I'm in a live cd right now) [02:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Pass_.28fsck_order.29 [02:32] did you set the fstab pass to 1 or 2? [02:33] I'm not linux expertise, but I just got the disk checking problem few day ago. [02:33] oh ti's all set to 0 [02:33] i didn't know what those fields were for lol [02:34] maybe that is the root of the problem.... [02:35] oh wait the / part is marked 0 1. so it is checked [02:37] hmm i see a core file in / === vlm_ is now known as vlm === Roy_Mustang is now known as A_D [04:09] if I add (as root) cron jobs using "crontab -e" -- will they persist after the machine is rebooted? [04:12] ntiy: i believe so [04:12] i have a useful cronjob that empties a temp folder on a weekly basis [04:12] so i can just t hrow stuff in there and know it gets deleted on a semi-regular basis [04:13] johnjay: thanks! [04:55] I'm trying to remove my wlan0 default route using nmcli. I just don't want my pc to reach anything outside its subnet. I've set ipv4.never-default yes and restarted network-manager, but the default route is still there [05:06] focal is nice [05:06] good job you guys! [05:06] the boot is just like debian way solid [05:06] and boot installer [05:06] did ufi easy [05:12] nevermind, solved [06:00] how to log the desktop notifications? is there a way to find the PID of the program sending desktop notifications === umask078 is now known as umask077 [06:36] not sure, i think that's gnome-shell or dbus thing [06:36] maybe try Settings->Notifications? === leion1 is now known as leion === tripelb is now known as psylocin === psylocin is now known as Psyl0cin === Psyl0cin is now known as tripel [07:09] Hello [07:11] I downgraded my kernel to 5.3.0-40. Now VirtualBox can't load images with the error message "VirtualBox LInux kernel driver is not ... set up correctly .. please reinstall virtualbox-dkms" package [07:11] Using usual apt-get install only tells me "already installed [07:12] sudo apt install --reinstall virtualbox-dkms will reinstall the package [07:17] I get the error https://pastebin.com/4LfJGF4E [07:17] I can't really tell whats wrong [07:19] I tried shutting down the service manually and tried again, but same error [07:19] DarkTrick: pastebin/review the output of `sudo systemctl status virtualbox.service` [07:20] ansimita, https://pastebin.com/wUJCzp2g [07:20] also try `sudo modprobe vboxdr` and see if it's successful or if it errors [07:21] v64, Fatal [07:21] Module vboxdr not found in directory /lib/modules/5.3.0-40-generic [07:21] do you have the full output of the virtualbox-dkms install before the part you pasted? [07:22] sure, sec [07:22] sorry I also typoed the module [07:22] should be sudo modprobe vboxdrv [07:23] also sudo modprobe virtualbox [07:23] DarkTrick: Can you also check whether the virtualbox kernel module supports your kernel? [07:23] https://pastebin.com/unmJNJvt [07:23] you can look in /lib/modules/5.3.0-40-generic to see if anything named virtualbox or vbox is present [07:23] ansimita, before downgrading everything worked fine. Does that answer your question? [07:23] DarkTrick: I'm asking because of the "No suitable module for running kernel found" error [07:24] ah okay thanks, it looks like you need to install the kernel headers, sudo apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r) [07:24] "Module build for kernel 5.3.0-40-generic was skipped since the kernel headers for this kernel does not seem to be installed." [07:24] ansimita, I was thinking it might have something to do with the linux-modules-extra - package, but I installed that already [07:24] v64, modprobe without the typo also failed [07:25] after you install kernel headers, try reinstall command again [07:25] v64, nothing like virutal box found in ` /lib/modules/5.3.0-40-generic` [07:25] ansimita, how else would I check that? [07:26] ah [07:26] ok, trying the header install [07:31] yaaaaaaaaaa! thank you sooo much! [07:31] that worked! [07:31] and it only took me about 30min! so I have still time left to actually develop [07:31] <3 [07:32] you're welcome glad to help [07:46] How can I fix the screen tearing problem? [07:48] tpham: depends on your gpu [07:48] I tried intel TearFree config in xorg but got no luck [07:49] hmm, that worked for me [07:49] ducasse I'm using intel and nvidia in `on-demand` mode. [07:50] More info: I'm running xmonad window manager. [07:51] are you running a compositor? [07:51] No [07:51] that helped for me with i3 [07:51] try xcompmgr or compton [07:52] Ok. [07:52] But I prefer hardware solution [07:52] hi [07:53] how do i install skype 8 on ubuntu 14.4 [07:53] sara2010: 14.04 is eol [07:53] !eol [07:53] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [07:55] I never use skype but I think you could try install skype using nix [07:55] You can have any newest packet [07:56] After install nix, just run: `nix-env -iA nixpkgs.skypeforlinux` [07:56] there's also a skype web client if you really just need a quick solution and don't want to mess around with installing stuff... [07:57] but yea, eol is real... if you're looking for a sustainable solution you might want to take care of that first [08:04] well last time i download DAB from skype web site. it was working [08:05] but now i m using the same but facing error [08:06] sara2010: your main problem is that you are on an old ubuntu version that is no longer supported here [08:09] after installing ubuntu server. what should i do? [08:09] drink a beer [08:09] how to make ubuntu server latest? [08:09] sudo apt upgrade [08:09] thank you so much [08:10] sudo apt update first [08:10] oh thanks [08:16] Hi, I just got an old creative USB webcam, and I can see it when using "lsusb" but I can not get a picture through, I'm just trying to make it work using cheese right now, is there something else I should install to make it work? === popgreen is now known as panorain === Grldfrdom_ is now known as Grldfrdom === Grldfrdom is now known as Grldfrdom_ [08:48] 99.99% it won't work [08:49] it could also be broken, does it work on Windows? [08:50] sara2010: install skypeforlinux [08:50] but i havnt used it on lubuntu [08:51] and it would be more complicated building from source imo but it is possible [08:51] id look into building from source on debian its probs the same thing [08:58] yo [08:58] dang i gota ditch lubuntu [08:58] my scanners broke [08:58] not only that but on this one fs my xsane options im not able to duplicate [08:59] it scans at a great pace at 6.1 mb for scan and my desktop goes at a snails pace and is around there or higher [08:59] ill have to get it working lubuntu looks great === umask078 is now known as umask077 [09:21] rany, I have not tried it on windows, it came straight from the package, but it is rather old, and might have been stored wrong, so it could perhaps just be broken. [09:21] I'll test it on windows later today, see if it works there. [09:22] yeah i have like two webcams which show up in `lsusb` but are actually broken [09:22] it wasn't a driver issue because it didn't work on windows with the official drivers [09:23] hmm okay, I guess broken is likely then, oh well, I got it for free, so not a big loss. [09:23] mine is like 8 years ago, i just needed one for the zoom conferences ... so i eventually used zoom on mobile instead [09:24] mine is like 8 years old, i just needed one for the zoom conferences ... so i eventually used zoom on mobile instead [09:24] all the stores around here are out of stock of all but the most expensive 4k webcams :-/ [09:26] my webcam comes with win 98 - win xp drivers, so pretty old as well :-P [09:27] no wonder they have full stock of the most expensive webcams... no one sane would buy that (except maybe the gamer/livestreaming people) [09:27] pretty niche market for that sort of stuff [09:28] Yes, I think that is who they are trying to sell it to. I just thought it would be fun to do a virtual bar and have a few beers with my mates. [09:32] i have an issue with ubuntu and nfs-mounted storage.. whenever i'm writing a large file to an nfs share, all other activities towards that filesystem is halted.. this doesn't happen against the same share from a centos system.. only on ubuntu.. [09:33] it was better on 16.04, but on 18.04 it's terrible [09:56] <_terp_atm> Hello. I am using 18.04 and I have a problem when a new window is created from an already launched application (for instance a new browser window created from an existing one): [09:56] <_terp_atm> they are now always placed in the background [09:57] <_terp_atm> but they are focused (I can type and they receive my input, even though I can't see them) [09:58] <_terp_atm> This is not a huge deal, but this is a small day-to-day annoyance. I might have ended up there by my own mistake, as I changed a behaviour to make sure that Alt+tab cycles through all windows, not just windows from different applications. [10:01] <_terp_atm> Has anyone an idea about how to ensure new windows are on the foreground? [10:10] Hi. I have a question about wake on lan. I enabled it on my ubuntu server and I tested that it works fine if I send a magic packet from my router using ether-wake. [10:11] The specific command does not ask for a port but works fine. [10:11] Now I'm trying to do the same from my android phone using the wake on lan app. [10:11] Default port there is 9. However, from the app it does not work. [10:11] Could this be about the port? [10:12] If so, how do I find out, which port would be right? [10:12] might be, 7 is another port it uses, could try that [10:12] port 0 is another possibility [10:13] will give it a shot [10:14] well, port 0 at least brought an error message, "Sending failed" [10:14] port 7 also does not work [10:14] of course, the issue could be somewhere else too. [10:14] 0, 7, and 9 are the only ports I've seen used so I think you can rule that out [10:14] I have allowed the app in my cell phone firewall. [10:14] ok, that is good to know, thx v64 [10:16] also I assume with your android device you are connected via wifi, if you successfully woke the device via ethernet, it sends a special packet type and doesnt use a port at all [10:16] so the port listening may not be configured [10:16] yes, all those assumptions are right. [10:17] I have a router with merlinwrt, which offers a wekinterface for wol [10:17] and I was able to wake it by that [10:17] the server is connected direcly to the router by lan [10:17] my mobile is in wifi, firewall settings (afwall) are open for lan and wlan [10:18] are you saying, that the app may not be able to wake it, because it is using the wrong method? [10:19] I believe you were able to successfully wake the server in your test because it sent the special packet type, and your android device isnt able to wake it because it's trying to communicate via the port and can't, it may be a networking issue with the android phone or the server isn't able to receive on ports 0/7/9 [10:20] both methods should work, just trying to isolate why it worked in one case but didn't in the other === marko1326 is now known as marko1325 [10:21] Ok. I'm also just testing another wol app. [10:25] didn't help [10:29] are you able to get in if you manually telnet host 7 into the server? [10:29] Which tools do you guys recommend for monitoring cpu/gpu temps? [10:29] or rather host 9 as that's most common [10:29] *port [10:29] Will Ubuntu ever support booting from ZFS partition? In contrast to ultimately requesting to destroy all partitions on the hard drive? I would like to keep dual-boot in the future. [10:31] nope [10:31] ah, that was for v64, not nikolam :) [10:32] I was expectign 20.04 to support ZFS on partitions, but stil llike 19.10 only gives "torch all" option when installing. [10:33] YeOldHinnerk: on the server, does `sudo lsof -i:9` return output to indicate the port is open? [10:33] Eve if i isntall on another drive, shall I count boot loader to be able to find and boot from ZFS on partition and then updates to go smooth.. It goes both for existing 19.10 and future 20.04 [10:34] I'll check... [10:34] "wake on lan" [10:35] does not really rely on open ports [10:35] since the packets are read by the NIC – not by the OS (which is sleeping anyways) [10:35] so the exact port doesn't really matter – nothing about the packet type matters at all, so long as it gets delivered to your Ethernet port and contains the right magic stuff... so it could be a UDP packet, an IP packet, a raw Ethernet packet, whatever the app prefers to send [10:35] yes, that seems logical. [10:35] sup guys what is the command again to change your editor for git to vim? [10:36] UDP is simply used because it's easy to use and doesn't require e.g. root privileges [10:36] however, since wol works when sent form my router to server, but does not when i send from an app on my mobile while in wifi, we are investigating [10:36] zmagii: git config --global core.editor "vim" [10:36] run a tcpdump capture when the server is actually running, then try to "wake" it [10:36] see if the magic packets get delivered [10:36] v64: Thanks [10:36] ok [10:37] e.g. `tcpdump -e -n -i eth0 "not port 22"` or something like that, if you're connecting over SSH [10:37] v64: Sorry for asking another question, but can one do the same for info? [10:38] if core.editor isn't set, git uses the one found in $EDITOR – and similarly `info` uses $PAGER [10:38] YeOldHinnerk: actually, are the phone and the server in the same subnet? [10:39] grawity: Thanks, that'll work [10:40] Is there a reason why you have $EDITOR and $PAGER as two separate variables? [10:40] they're for different kinds of programs [10:40] $EDITOR is given a file to edit, while $PAGER is more commonly fed text via stdin just to scroll through (page) [10:41] wait, I goofed up, `info` has its own and doesn't use $PAGER at all... [10:42] grawity: Yup, setting $PAGER doesn't seem to work. [10:42] I guess I was thinking of `man` [10:42] When I play videos , x264, my screen goes crazy and nothing happens , like I can't get out of it. Is that normal? [10:43] grawity: Yes, same subnet [10:44] what am I looking for in tcpdump? [10:44] how would I recognize the package? [10:44] hmm good question [10:45] I know Wireshark (and tshark) always detects them as WOL packets [10:45] but in tcpdump you might just need to look for something that looks like one [10:45] your app says it uses port 9? well look for UDP packets arriving at port 9 [10:46] I can change the port [10:47] Have any of you added freebsd , to grub? [10:47] doesn't matter, as long as it arrives at the server [10:48] Hmm okay it seems like I have confused myself. Is gnu info just a screenreader or does it supply different manual pages than man? [10:48] I seem to recall that sometimes info has a longer page on a given program than man does? [10:48] zmagii: yes, it's really meant for a completely different format (just try `info coreutils` or even `yelp info:coreutils`) [10:48] I executed: "sudo tcpdump -n -i eno1 'port 9'" [10:49] I do not see anything when I send the wake up [10:49] grawity: So is it possible to serve the coreutils page to vim at all? [10:49] zmagii: probably no, because vim wouldn't understand how to deal with its hyperlinks and stuff [10:50] although [10:50] oh [10:50] one giant page like https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/coreutils.html would still be possible [10:50] wait a minute... [10:50] I just have no idea how lol [10:50] it arrived at the other network card [10:50] that is odd [10:50] it shouldn't have [10:50] what destination MAC does the packet have? [10:51]