[02:47] <jphilips> Unit193: when would the final core iso ready, as i'm putting the link on the release page
[02:59] <jphilips> bluesabre: regarding 'desktop integration' in the release notes, is this something new to be able to run snap and flattpaks?
[03:10] <jphilips> with regard to pidgin-libnotify, was it removed due a python 2 dependency
[03:12] <Unit193> I'd likely be doing one last respin the night before, if there's no respins the next day/late breaking fixes then I'd update the page later on.
[03:34] <jphilips> so tonight :D
[03:35] <Unit193> No.
[03:36] <jphilips> did 'the night before' mean the night before the release?
[03:36] <jphilips> i'm utc+4, so maybe its still 22nd on your end
[03:36] <Unit193> The latter half of the message is important, with regards to "if no other errors" so not *final* until the next day.
[03:37] <Unit193> It's still the 21st, yeah.
[03:38] <Unit193> It usually ends up being a few hours after release.
[03:38] <jphilips> well whenever you do, please give me a ping
[03:40] <Unit193> Gotcha.
[03:40] <jphilips> which was the last release which had 32-bit. was it 19.04?
[03:44] <Unit193> I have up until xubuntu-core.1810.i386.buildlog, it seems.
[03:47] <Unit193> I also want to ensure albinard has a chance to go over it, he's pretty much the most solid tester at this point.  Not heard a whole lot this cycle, but doesn't help we don't have a QA person anymore.
[03:47] <jphilips> yep its in the 19.04 release notes, though not  on the released page
[03:48] <jphilips> what kind of testing is needed?
[03:49] <Unit193> At this point, all I can do with UEFI+secure boot is presume it works, as I don't have that.  I'm not really sure of anything else specific.
[03:53] <Unit193> Note: I'm not complaining, it is what it is.  Maybe there's not as much as a desire for this too, I don't know. :)
[03:57] <jphilips> :D
[03:58] <jphilips> this is what the release blog post looks like presently https://i.imgur.com/C6ZxtEG.png
[03:58] <Unit193> On the bright side, no testers means no bugs.  I think I'm good with this. :D
[03:58] <jphilips> bluesabre: let me know if any of the other known issues should be included
[03:59] <jphilips> Unit193: is UEFI+secure boot new to this release and is it not available in desktop or other flavors
[03:59] <Unit193> In the past it's been noted that the Core builds are community, it's likely best to note that still.
[03:59] <Unit193> jphilips: Not new, just something that in theory could break and I'd never know.
[04:00] <jphilips> its desktop also community :D
[04:01] <jphilips> what wording would you like
[04:01] <jphilips> 'xubuntu core, a community minimal installation option'
[04:01] <Unit193> I'd have to look at the old release notes.  Well yeah, but the desktop is built and hosted on the official infra, so a bit different.
[06:08] <knome> another LTS...
[06:09] <knome> (:
[06:11] <jphilips> yep. tomorrow is the big day
[06:13] <Unit193> knome: Are you sure it isn't a STS?!
[06:13] <Unit193> ...This isn't -ot.
[07:58] <TJ-> xf86-video-amdgpu is now fixed upstream; will prepare patch for 20.04 as soon as the patch is in the mainline repository 
[09:12] <xubuntu70> Hello, I AM new here. O:3 
[09:53] <jphilips> knome: have to say that the trusty wallpaper is the one i like the most :D
[09:54] <jphilips> utopic is also great
[09:54] <Unit193> If memory services, 10.04.
[09:54] <Unit193> Serves*
[09:55] <jphilips> you like 10.04 the most Unit193 
[09:56] <jphilips> trusty is 14.04
[09:56] <Unit193> If I'm remembering the right one, 10.04 was pretty good, yeah.
[09:56] <jphilips> https://xubuntu.org/xubuntu-lucid/
[09:59] <Unit193> ...I don't remember which it was then.
[09:59] <jphilips> you can click the next and previous buttons on the page to go through them
[09:59] <Unit193> Yes I noticed that. :P
[10:00] <jphilips> i had seen the utopic wallpaper is someones desktop screenshot and i was like, 'wow that looks nice, i should try to get it', not knowing it was from xubuntu :D
[10:01] <jphilips> makes me wonder why we dont ship more of the older wallpapers
[10:01] <Unit193> ...Wow, never saw the Hardy one.
[10:01] <jphilips> ubuntu did a online poll on twitter and the winner got added to 20.04 :D
[10:03] <Unit193> But, I like darker blue so something along the lines of Lucid or Jaunty, though I remember the former being darker.  (Man I've been around too long, should follow knome out the door...)
[10:04] <jphilips> likely your screen was darker in those days :D
[10:04] <jphilips> well knome hasnt left as he always comes back for a great wallpaper :D
[10:30] <bluesabre> jphilips: RE: desktop integration, we could always run them, but they lacked theme integration. This meant they always took the Adwaita GTK theme and basically had no icons. Regarding pidgin-libnotify, it doesn't seem to have a python2 dep directly: https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/pidgin-libnotify
[10:31] <bluesabre> jphilips: yeah, there's more bugs I need to go through and add to the release notes
[10:31] <jphilips> was the lack of theme integration because greybird wasn't in the snap and flatpak repos?
[10:32] <bluesabre> TJ-: that's awesome. Way to go!
[10:32] <jphilips> so what was the reasoning why pidgin-libnotify was removed
[10:33] <bluesabre> jphilips: I do not know. I'll have to do some digging to figure out why.
[10:33] <bluesabre> jphilips: yes, the lack of theme integration was exactly that.
[10:37] <jphilips> thanks. just looking to add as much info to the shorter release notes :D
[10:39] <bluesabre> :)
[11:21] <bluesabre> LP might be having some issues serving files. `dget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/xfwm4/4.14.1-0ubuntu1/xfwm4_4.14.1-0ubuntu1.dsc` doesn't want to complete
[17:57] -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 2.4.4 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin-2-4-4-released-tp58543.html (by Graeme Gott)
[21:32] <bluesabre> > Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been updated (20200422)