[03:49] chenglong [05:32] Heyo [06:08] Good morning [07:03] chriseilander was added by: chriseilander [07:15] mythio was added by: mythio [07:16] Is it possible to upgrade the base to 20.04 in kubuntu? [07:17] RDJSD was added by: RDJSD [07:18] @mythio, Yes [07:18] Is kubuntu 20.04 releasing today guys? Please don't mind for asking this. I'm new here [07:19] @RDJSD, It's planed for today... It will release after Ubuntu team releases there product then other flavours [07:20] @Terminator_99, Ok . Thanks mate. [07:20] @Terminator_99, do-release-upgrade if I'm not wrong [07:21] @mythio, Yup .. and it doesn't work then there is a Installation to upgrade to latest lts version on the Kubuntu forum/wiki [07:21] Can you please share? [07:22] @mythio, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BionicUpgrades/Kubuntu [07:22] @Terminator_99, πŸ‘ [07:23] Hello everyone. Short question: When will be the 20.04 LTS release available? [07:24] @Terminator_99, Check this ... #Viewer|5 [07:25] @Terminator_99, Check this #viewer|5 [07:30] @Terminator_99 It seems that the relay bot swallowed whatever you wanted to send me. To specify my question: I know it is today, but which "today"? Australian today or California today ;) [07:31] @viewer|5, 23 April [07:31] UK day. :P [07:32] Okay, I see. I will wait patiently ;) [07:33] Thanks for your effort! Have a nice day. [07:34] Yup .. have to wait ☺️.. server will be slow few days [07:35] !isitout [07:35] It's not out yet! Come visit #ubuntu-release-party and hang out. Don't forget your party hat! === MANIAC is now known as Guest33950 [07:49] #ubuntu-it-party [08:18] flying_noodle was added by: flying_noodle [08:44] @Terminator_99, Will 20.04 update be available on official website?. [08:44] @RDJSD, Yaa the iso will be there when it's officially released [08:45] @Terminator_99, Ok [08:53] Roger Light was added by: Roger Light [09:12] Hi all, I'm currently running Kubuntu 19.04 and trying to `do-release-upgrade`, but looks like the Disco repo's are no longer available on http://us.archive.ubuntu.com to get my software to latest before update. Anyone know if there's an alternative path besides re-installing 19.10 over the top from scratch? [09:14] @jimtendo, No change the country.. this will be fine I guess.. let me check if it's available in my country [09:17] @Ircsomebot: I did try that actually - originally it was AU I was using. [09:17] ... looks like neither US nor AU have Disco though. [09:25] Morning [09:25] When doing install tests, the script says "The proposed keyboard corresponds with your keyboard" [09:26] On any install I've ever done, with any distribution, I get presented with English US. The keyboard is actually English GB. [09:26] Should this be reported as a bug? [09:27] @Ircsombot: I might just start fresh - getting re-setup will be tonight's project. One question though, I noticed the download site for Kubuntu doesn't support HTTPS for me - does this seem right? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/19.10/release/kubuntu-19.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [09:28] I can always just verify the hash on the main site after downloading - but I do find that strange as it would allow less savvy users to be MITM'd. [09:29] Many torrent clients can automatically verify the files if you feed it the hash in the right place in the torrent client. [09:30] Yeah, but I wouldn't expect a normal user to know how to do that. More so curious as to why it wouldn't be using https? [09:31] @blooalien, Yaa if it doesn't we can verify it via terminal or gtkhash tool === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life [10:07] hey there! [10:22] @viewer|41, Hello [10:24] @jimtendo, check `apt-select` tool on github … it lets u select custom mirrors [10:26] @prathamesh_d, Ubuntu update manager / software & updates also provides the option to choose different countries mirror... But the 19.04 is not available in any mirror now it's eol [10:27] @Terminator_99, ah, I thought they must have kept backups for compatibility. [10:29] @prathamesh_d, Maybe but the default Ubuntu to tool and sources.list works in all Ubuntu based distros to change the country mirror or update check preference no issues... After setting it up your can remove it settings will be saved [10:30] @Terminator_99, πŸ‘ [10:39] Howdy fplks [10:41] BluesKaj : join the party we all are celebrating there πŸ˜‰ [10:41] 🀣 [10:41] Terminator_99, I'm already on Focal :-) [10:42] BluesKaj : I'm also on beta πŸ˜‹ [10:46] Pa1 was added by: Pa1 [10:47] Fellow humans, is there a channel for the launch party? [10:47] @Pa1, #ubuntu-release-party [10:48] Terminator_99, I've been testing Focal for 4 months or more so beta is just another phase :-) [10:50] @BluesKaj, @BluesKaj : me about 1.5m ;) [10:50] @Terminator_99, Awesome, thank you 🀟🏼 [10:50] @Pa1, πŸ‘ [10:51] wish you guys would use a real irc client [10:54] @BluesKaj : I don't use irc client as of now .. I use Kubuntu support irc website to connect different Ubuntu channels 🀣🀣🀣 [10:54] :/ [11:11] @BluesKaj, And debian irc website too 😁 [11:12] debian is a nice OS, too bad their chat is full of pedantic misfits [11:14] Lol [11:14] I see [11:16] Lol @BluesKaj: yaa but there are some really nice helpful members there .. [11:17] yeah there are, but unfortunately they're out numbered by the knowitall jerks :-) [11:19] @BluesKaj, @BluesKaj ya 🀣 they are everywhere.. some of them like I wanna Install neofetch so I typed sudo apt Install neofetch and it asked me to confirm with Y ...... … So my question is should I type y ? … 🀦🀦🀣 [11:21] neofetch is quite harmless [11:21] @Terminator_99, Really? πŸ˜‚ [11:22] @Franzpow, Yaa 🀠 they want just to verify if it's okay to type Y [11:23] ok, I've had enough of this telegram crap [11:24] BluesKaj: Try keybase.io [11:25] He's gone, and meant the bridge. [11:27] BluesKaj: I would like to use Irc but Hexchat is not working anymore on my i3 wm [11:29] Same for Konversation [11:29] I don't know how to fix that [11:31] masonbee-M1: What's that? Keybase.io [11:33] Open Source messaging program with encrypted chat, git and file storage. [11:33] That is really cool! [11:34] It can also work as a bridge for other IM apps? Like whatsapp or telegram etc.. [11:34] It is, you can also post public files and private ones. It works with dolphin for access, etc...apps for other OS's [11:34] That's awesome [11:34] Is it also available for android? [11:34] Not I don't think so, although...not entirely sure. I haven'y been using it long enough. [11:35] Yes [11:35] Yes or no? :-) [11:36] Linux, Android, iOS, macOS, and Windows and iPad I believe. [11:36] Cool. I will try that out for sure. Thanks for sharing [11:44] (Photo, 1232x846) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/OgU6u0C0/file_28020.jpg === KjetilK_ is now known as KjetilK [12:35] Any news when freeken Ubuntu /kubuntu will be released? [12:42] !isitout [12:42] It's not out yet! Come visit #ubuntu-release-party and hang out. Don't forget your party hat! [12:45] @croweland, When release team are ready to. It is not just blockers there to consider. Infra things have to be done, which take time. e.g. mirror syncing etc === prof is now known as Guest21146 [13:32] @croweland, 9:15 amΒ Thursday, Mountain Time (MT)Β  somewhere nere this time [13:44] wilsonritt was added by: wilsonritt [13:58] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/VP0YI0mq/file_28026.jpg [13:58] It's out [14:00] Ubuntu not yet [14:10] DarkHorse1997 was added by: DarkHorse1997 [14:12] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/VBKdJAeq/file_28027.jpg [14:15] Is there a way to update a kubuntu install to a newer version of ubuntu without reinstalling? [14:17] @user|41207, Sure is. Google about `do-release-upgrade` I think the command is? [14:18] @user|41207, @user|41207 from which one 18.04 or 19.10 ? [14:19] @user|41207, @user|41207 new version of Kubuntu or Ubuntu?? If Ubuntu then first upgrade that to latest version Kubuntu then insta .. gnome and gnome-extra [14:20] user|41207, you have to set your package maneger/discover to LTS only upgrade setting if you are on 18.04 atm [14:20] 20.04 has been released [14:21] 😁 [14:22] RDJSD, it's not official yet [14:28] I am on 19.04, and today apt-get update started 404'ing on the ubuntu repos, fixed it my changing the addresses to point to https://old-releases.... guessing that is subtle hint it's time for an upgrade [14:28] *by changing [14:28] It's on the server I'm installing right now [14:29] beta [14:32] No beta final, check my photos [14:37] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/I0kvxMVb/file_28029.jpg [14:38] It's not beta, it's final one [14:38] Yep. It's true. I'm seein' official release notices startin' to show up on various Linux and Ubuntu related websites and newsfeeds. [14:38] Yaa its final release... They are uploading there isos to the server they just have to link that to there website with a 20.04 lts tag [14:39] How can I create a shortcut automatically when I drag a url to a folder? Instead of having to access the submenu that comes up each time? [14:39] @BluesKaj, @BluesKaj check cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu [14:39] gonna take a while to download, especially right now since users are jumping in with torrent clients [14:39] @BluesKaj, Yup [14:40] Final version of 20.04 has been released already? [14:40] So looks like Kubuntu is having a scheduled DDos? (20.04 release) [14:40] I don't find it in the download page [14:40] the devs were a bit slow to anounce purposefully [14:40] @viewer|80, It's released but in there server not yet linked to the website [14:40] `do-release-upgrade` still don't see it yet for me, but it prolly will quite soon I'm sure. [14:41] https://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/ [14:41] Wasn't supposed to be avialbale on april 23d? [14:41] Odd.. don't see it on the main downloads tab. [14:41] BluesKaj: I am waiting to upgrade because of the traffic [14:41] But I am using 20.04 beta since one week ago on my other oc [14:41] Pc* [14:41] @viewer|80, cdimage.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/releases [14:41] viewer|80: there is still 9 hrs left of 23rd [14:42] upgraded my laptop a month ago [14:42] RikMils: right [14:42] @BluesKaj, Actually, using torrent to download it should relieve strain on the server due to the peer-to-peer nature of bittorrent protocol, shouldn't it? [14:42] after the libc6 bug was fixed [14:42] In my country it will be released around 5:30 A.M 24 th [14:43] BluesKaj: I wasn't able to upgrade unfortunately but now every machine that I own runs linux so I will slowly upgrade them :) [14:43] @blooalien, Yaa but slow currently I guess [14:43] blooalien, from the reports I'm receiving that should be the case , but it's not [14:43] @Terminator_99, Please stop posting false info [14:43] @Franzpow, Download iso via http download manager with multiple thrades [14:43] @Terminator_99, That'll probably improve as more people start seeding (after they fully download it). [14:44] Wow.. 4 minute download on the desktop iso [14:44] @Terminator_99, Now that would add extra strain on the download server. [14:44] @RikMills, What is false ?? Every one is saying 9:15 MT time so that reflects to 5:30 am 24th ist time [14:45] @Terminator_99, Everyone is talking ballhooks. Even I don't know what time the Ubuntu release team will send release notices out! [14:46] @RikMills, They are saying this πŸ˜‚ according to the previous Ubuntu lts releases [14:46] Ideally, most folk should download the torrent if they can, and then seed after their download is done. That helps everyone else download their torrent faster. [14:47] Fwd from RikMills: 18.04 @ 23:59 UTC … 18.10 @ 18:42 UTC … 19.04 @ 14:13 UTC … 19.10 @ 18:25 UTC [14:47] https://releases.ubuntu.com/focal/ this site is supposed to work [14:47] @RikMills, @Terminator_99 [14:47] I always seed my Linux ISO downloads for a good long while after I download 'em. [14:48] @Terminator_99 It is out when the announcement goes out, which is at no set time. [14:48] @RikMills, It also reflects my 5:30 am time for the lts but might change this time [14:48] So.. I'm like.. 2 weeks into using kubuntu as my daily driver. Is there a way to set the default drag behavior for file types? Like to automatically just make a shortcut for a url if I drag it to a folder? [14:48] @RikMills, Yup trur [14:48] If they get it right, it will be by sure pure random luck [14:49] @blooalien, Same.. [14:49] @Terminator_99, "Sharing is Caring." 😜 [14:50] Hi [14:50] @blooalien, πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚ [14:50] Is kubuntu 20.04 available for downloading ? [14:51] @user|27689, Yes [14:53] kubuntu is not available yet [14:55] Can upgrade with do-release-upgrade? [14:55] @BluesKaj, It's there release.ubuntu or cdimage .. Ubuntu mate and few others also released [14:55] @mythio, Not yet [14:56] Nobody has a life hack to help with dragging a url to a folder to make a shortcut? [14:56] Clean install then? [14:56] no Kubuntu tho [14:57] @BluesKaj, @BluesKaj Kubuntu is there u visited wrong portion... cdimage.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/releases then click on focal and see release [14:57] Direct download http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/focal/release/kubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso [14:58] @digitalw00t, Done @digitalw00t [14:58] @mythio, ??? [14:59] not found 404 [14:59] I've downloaded and installed, but my graphics keeps bugging 😭 [14:59] Guess I'll have to keep using nouveau [15:00] @Terminator_99, @BluesKaj working perfectly this one the last one is the direct download link [15:00] @wilsonritt, Which GPU ? [15:01] 820m, Nvidia [15:02] @Terminator_99: I'm done downloading the iso as well. [15:02] But it's an hybrid discreet graphics, it installs the right driver, but since it works with both integrated and the dedicated, it gives me a black screen [15:03] @Terminator_99: So nobody creates url shortcuts by dragging them to a folder? [15:03] Then I have to switch to the terminal and uninstall the Nvidia driver. Works fine, but with a huge performance loss 😒 [15:03] (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/SkuZr4by/file_28031.jpg Ubuntu 20.04 codenamed "Focal Fossa" and its flavours are now available for download. Starting from 20.04 all images are 64-bit only. … Ubuntu 20.04 … Kubuntu 20.04 … Xubuntu 20.04 … Ubuntu Mate 20.04 … Lubuntu 20.04 … Ubuntu Budgie 20.04 [15:03] wilsonritt , Optimus hybrid gpus ? [15:04] Yeah. It's funny that it just doesn't work on kde. On cinnamon and gnome it works perfectly fine [15:05] @wilsonritt, Install the drivers again [15:07] I dedicated some hours to it last week, but I think I'll try again today. As soon as I get back I'll reinstall and give a feedback here. === housecat is now known as dax [15:11] DjihadBoukara was added by: DjihadBoukara === simonj is now known as Adraen [15:38] EvgeniiSanich was added by: EvgeniiSanich [15:46] Sajith Ks was added by: Sajith Ks [15:51] @Terminator_99, In my case, I must install the driver and then Nvidia prime, is that so? [15:51] @wilsonritt, Yes try [15:51] add ppa … apt install nvidia-340 … apt install nvidia-prime [15:51] Ok [15:51] Does anyone know if you can switch between workspaces using keyboard shortcuts because that's not working right now [15:51] @wilsonritt, Why 340πŸ˜‚? [15:52] Is the only one supported got 8XX mobile cards [15:52] @wilsonritt, Ohh okay no issues [15:53] Not sure though, but a wide variety of forums said that for 18.04 [15:53] @wilsonritt, 19.10 worked in that ? [15:54] @wilsonritt, Or try installing via Ubuntu driver manager utility [15:54] Last time I tried, the ppa didn't even add, it seems that now it could find everything. [15:54] @Terminator_99, Yes [15:55] @wilsonritt, Then it should work in 20.04 I guess so try installing via driver manager utility [15:56] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/YsJIsLZb/file_28035.jpg Fresh install, no telegram yet [15:56] First time in a long time seeing this screen on kde πŸ˜… [15:57] 20.04 have nvidia driver preinstalled [15:57] @prathamesh_d, Yeah, that one that caused the crash on my laptop. Probably because of the hybrid thing [15:58] @wilsonritt, Nice [15:59] Thanks for your time, pretty satisfying to see it using the right driver at last kkk [16:00] @wilsonritt, No problem πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘ [16:00] @wilsonritt, ah optimus laptops are a pain to manage, wish I knew this before I bought mine [16:02] @prathamesh_d, Absolutely agree, optimus laptops are terrible with linux, but you can make them work with some trickery === saige is now known as saigel [16:04] @darltrash, That's why amd is better for Linux πŸ˜‰ === viktor__ is now known as vsip [16:11] @Terminator_99, Absolutely true [16:12] Amd just runs out of the box! You have to do nothing [16:13] @darltrash, Yup same for Intel Graphics.. [16:13] But nvidia is a different story that's why Linus Torvalds said F U nvidia few years back [16:13] Yeah, but intel iGPUs are terrible compared to AMD's ones [16:13] @Terminator_99, No, is more because they have a huuuge ego [16:14] Amd is just chill [16:14] @darltrash, Yaa amd x series is king in Linux [16:16] @Terminator_99, They are really good at making great low-cost CPUs and GPUs [16:16] The AMD Athlon 3000G is awesome [16:21] @darltrash, Yaa verry low budget gaming cpu&gpu but much better then Intel's offerings [16:21] Yes, A low cost intel cpu is barely going to handle xfce [16:22] While you can play minecraft with shaders at 30 fps with a normal low cost amd cpu [16:23] when 20.04 will be relased ? [16:25] when it's ready [16:29] https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ [16:29] ah, didn't notice the website update. nice. [16:39] @Terminator_99, U can simply download from website. Is there any difference?? Indian release or other countries release [16:40] @RDJSD, Noo .. it's same release just different time zones [16:40] @Terminator_99, Hmm [16:41] @darltrash, Yup [16:42] @DarinMiller, Nice it's out === vest is now known as extraterrestrial [17:08] @Terminator_99, Amd does black magic lol [17:58] https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1253382547171663881 [17:58] Hurray! [17:58] lmao did the blog post come out *right after* i checked for a blogpost [17:58] I am doing a backup before upgrading [17:58] I learned my lessons === dax changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu | Pastes: https://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | Kubuntu 20.04: https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-20-04-lts-has-been-released/ | https://forum.kde.org, https://www.kubuntuforums.net [17:59] dax: I hit the button just a min or 2 ago [17:59] yeah, i checked 4 minutes ago :3 [18:00] sitting here most of the day, and when I pop off for 10 mins the email comes out! [18:04] Typic this from Kubuntu 18.04.4, what is the safest method to upgrade to 20.04? [18:10] Is the do-release-upgrade command still not working? I have Kubuntu 19.10 [18:14] @Franzpow, Not working here [18:15] Oh we have to way some days, maybe [18:15] meiguo [18:15] ηΎŽε›½ [18:15] 账号 [18:15] Did you read the release notes? [18:16] Or even the announcement? [18:16] (Photo, 856x298) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/oPIBjMlQ/file_28048.jpg [18:18] Yep, I've read it right now [18:18] I know that usually we habe to wait, I was just asking [18:19] Because some users said here to run do-release-upgrade [18:19] You can force the upgrade at the moment by adding '-d' to the command, but you will be being a guineapig [18:21] I will wait np [18:22] I am running a custom kernel on kubuntu 19.10 - should I do something before upgrade to ensure that the custom kernel will be enabled by default when I'll boot the first time 20.04? [18:24] Likely it would stay default, but would do no hard to go to grub menu on 1st boot to make sure [18:25] Ok, got it [18:25] Thank you Rik [18:47] Chanakya2500 was added by: Chanakya2500 [19:09] Hello, I am new to IRC and Kubuntu, I installed 20.04 Kubuntu today, and I did guided whole disk while installing, but it messed up my windows 10 and I am unable to fix it. I did a lot of google search and tried a lot of things, didn't help. [19:10] https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=195&t=165630&p=431425#p431425 [19:12] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ttVyJsRxx8/ This is the summary I got from Boot-repair. === kubuntu is now known as Guest74717 [19:34] join sex [19:43] spin4justice hope you got some backups handy? [19:46] Metamorphosis what? [19:57] @kab0m I don't :( [19:59] spin4justice ohh damn :( feels bad man. http://www.taobackup.com/ . If you really did use the whole hard disk upon kubuntu install, you would need to use recovery software or service to retrieve your files. sorry bud. [20:07] Anyone else have the lockscreen show the laptop lockscreen overlayed on top of their plugged in monitor lock screen? If so is there a way to fix that? [20:08] For clarity... its only doing it during log in... not when locked via meta+L [20:10] Desktop re-installed with kubuntu 20.04.... just wanted to come in and say "well done chaps, and chapettes" [21:07] so 20.04 and backports are parity atm? [21:09] Just woke up and immediately checked that 20.04 is out! Already seeding! 😊 Thanks for all your hard work, Kubuntu team! @RikMills @Valoriez [21:10] Given the statement in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 that "It is possible, in UEFI Secure Boot mode, to have every stage cryptographically signed, in which case any tampering can be detected and boot aborted. Unfortunately, Canonical (who control the building of the packaged signed GRUB UEFI boot-loader) did not include the encryption modules in their signed GRUB EFI images until the release of 19.04 Disco. [21:10] See bug #1565950." does that Kubuntu 20.04 can now be installed in UEFI Secure Boot? [21:10] bug 1565950 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Grub 2 fails to boot a kernel on a luks encrypted volume with Secure Boot enabled" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1565950 === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life [22:19] Hi, ive got a problem after the installation of kubuntu 19.10: my "taskbar" is so little and my font size too, and i dont know what to do against it. [22:46] Hi anyone, I'm looking to upgrade by installation to 20.04 but I'm having issues with repositories in my current install Im getting a lot of N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. [22:46] N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. error messages on sudu update, is there a way to reset my repositories before I upgrade? [23:11] hmmm, why would anyone install 19.10 today? [23:14] Hi [23:17] Hi [23:17] How can I upgrade my 19 version into 20 one without reinstalling? [23:19] Like using apt upgrade [23:20] @user|83460, Research the `do-release-upgrade` command a little bit. That should do the trick. The disc images also used to support upgrading existing installations, so that may also be worth looking into if you already have a 20.04 disc handy. [23:25] @Bolvaron, Search under settings->display->scaling. [23:25] @valorie, Because they can! [23:25] true that [23:25] I stopped seeding it today [23:25] no point [23:26] why do people ask then leave, gosh [23:26] @valorie, Also, i have sympathy for the thought of using a 6 months tested OS instead of a one day old one. πŸ˜‰ [23:27] Thanks IcrsomeBot that do-release-upgrade seems to be doing some work with repositories, cos my upgrade and update sudo's were doing nothing [23:27] sure, but I run backports [23:28] so almost nothing changed when I upgraded [23:28] I knew it would be rock-solid [23:28] I upgraded my travel laptop a few weeks back and it's been flawless [23:28] I did back up before upgrading today [23:28] just in case [23:29] because nvidia [23:29] So the upgrade path works? [23:29] From 19.10? [23:30] yep [23:30] on both boxes, fabulous [23:32] Is the ram usage better on 20.04? I have it running on a beefy desktop but I had to run lubuntu on my laptop, will 20.04 kubuntu work with 4gb of ddr3 [23:33] exell: why not download the ISO and burn it onto a USB and try it out? [23:33] make sure everything works as you like before installing [23:34] imo ram usage in plasma has been slowly going down for years [23:34] I am upgrading the desktop at the minute to 20.04 so can't download any iso's until it finishes, been working all night, the last time I installed 18.04 onto the laptop it was very slow so i'm unsure if 20.04 has a smaller memory footprint [23:35] it all depends on how many applications you have running at the same time [23:35] and what they are [23:35] chrome with 200 tabs is gonna be heavy [23:36] falkon with 10, pretty light [23:37] yeah, it's never really anything intensive, i had plasma 5 and had maybe a 3 tab firefox with atom text editor and whenever I tried to navigate menu etc there was a 5-10 second stutter or even tried to open anything else [23:37] oh gosh I have almost 60 [23:37] time to prune [23:38] wow [23:38] I have lots of ram though so my info is worthless to you [23:39] yeah, thats my crap laptop specs. the desktop here is a beast, but I'm unsure about putting kubuntu onto the laptop as it ran really slow last year with the 18.04