[01:08] <callmepk> Good morning
[01:10] <callmepk> It's the release day today
[06:04] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:04] <oSoMoN> happy release day!
[06:24] <callmepk> morning oSoMoN 
[06:25] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk 
[06:30] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:40] <didrocks> good morning, happy release day!
[06:43] <tsimonq2> Morning everyone, happy release day. :)
[06:45] <ricotz> good morning desktopers!
[06:45] <seb128> lut didrocks, happy LTS day indeed!
[06:46] <seb128> hey tsimonq2, ricotz
[06:46] <seb128> how are you?
[06:46] <tsimonq2> Hey seb128, it's been a while. :)
[06:48] <didrocks> salut seb128 ! :) hey ricotz, tsimonq2 
[06:49] <tsimonq2> Hey didrocks :)
[06:50] <ricotz> didrocks, seb128, tsimonq2, hey
[06:51] <ricotz> seb128, could better while having a reported regression in vala :\
[06:54] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, didrocks 
[06:54] <oSoMoN> good morning tsimonq2, ricotz 
[06:54] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[06:54] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[06:54] <callmepk> hi seb128 didrocks tsimonq2 ricotz 
[06:54] <seb128> hey callmepk
[06:55] <didrocks> hey hey callmepk :)
[06:55] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça va, et toi?
[07:00] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN didrocks 
[07:03] <seb128> un peu fatigué mais sinon ça va bien :)
[07:11] <jibel> morning all
[07:15] <didrocks> good morning jibel 
[07:15] <ricotz> seb128, could you reject 0.48.4-0ubuntu1 from the queue and upload 0.48.5-0ubuntu1 -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1874133
[07:17] <jibel> salut didrocks 
[07:42] <seb128> lut jibel, en forme ? ready for another day of iso testing? ;)
[07:43] <jibel> salut seb128, en forme, waiting for next build
[07:43] <marcustomlinson> morning desktoppers
[07:43] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:44] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson
[07:44] <marcustomlinson> hey didrocks and seb128, how things?
[07:45] <bigon> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=958497 << an idea what's the position of canonical on this?
[07:47] <didrocks> marcustomlinson: testingly as usual for releases/beta and you? :p
[07:47] <seb128> bigon, I don't think it has been reported to us or reviewed
[07:47] <seb128> Wimpress, ^
[07:48] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson 
[07:48] <marcustomlinson> didrocks: one part stressingly, one part sleepily :)
[07:48] <marcustomlinson> hey oSoMoN, I read kids can go outside now there
[07:49] <marcustomlinson> remember to lock the door so they can't come back in
[07:49] <didrocks> roh
[07:49] <oSoMoN> yeah, with so many gotchas that we're not even going to try, I think
[07:51] <oSoMoN> how can you reasonably expect a two year old to keep a safe distance when encountering another two year old on the street?
[07:51] <marcustomlinson> right
[07:52] <didrocks> oSoMoN: sureeee, and not touching anything
[07:53] <marcustomlinson> we've experienced this, my son sees a friend from school on our walk and immediately they pick up a game of catchers
[07:53] <marcustomlinson> parents look at each other like um...
[07:53] <oSoMoN> of course they do
[07:53] <seb128> bigon, I will follow up and let you know when I get a reply
[07:53] <didrocks> this is why we didn’t go out with our son
[07:54] <bigon> seb128: thx
[07:58] <seb128> ricotz, new vala uploaded
[08:09] <Laney> moin
[08:09] <marcustomlinson> morning Laney
[08:11] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson 
[08:11] <marcustomlinson> Laney: when you said you'd be in later today I didn't think you'd go as far as a whole 9 minutes. 5 minutes sure, but 9 is a little over the top
[08:12] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:12] <didrocks> marcustomlinson: worse than 9, it was 9 minutes and 4 SECONDS!
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> tsk tsk
[08:13] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:14] <Laney> sorry marcustomlinson and didrocks :(
[08:14] <Laney> hey seb128 
[08:15] <seb128> didrocks, marcustomlinson, you guys should pay more attention, Laney starts his walk to the computer on the clock, he's never saying hi before :03 :p
[08:15] <Laney> I'm alright, quite tired
[08:15] <Laney> correct
[08:15] <didrocks> ahah
[08:15] <oSoMoN> hey Laney 
[08:15] <Laney> hey oSoMoN 
[08:16]  * didrocks already running first test on FINALE (hopefully) iso
[08:21] <ricotz> seb128, thank you
[08:25] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: hey, your LO SRU looks good, my only quibble is that you have an UNRELEASED entry in the changelog for a 1:6.4.2-0ubuntu4 that was never uploaded
[08:25] <marcustomlinson> could you remove that entry and append its changes to the 1:6.4.3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 changes list
[08:30] <marcustomlinson> seb128: can SRU's for focal be uploaded at this time? Or do we need to wait until after official release?
[08:31] <seb128> marcustomlinson, see my weekly email from monday to the team :p
[08:31] <seb128> marcustomlinson, it can be uploaded
[08:32] <marcustomlinson> ah whoops
[08:32] <marcustomlinson> thanks
[08:32] <jibel> which weekly email?
[08:33] <marcustomlinson> last week
[08:33] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth: I'll make that small change and upload for you today
[08:35] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, use the git branch
[08:35] <ricotz> marcustomlinson, it is fixed there
[08:35] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: which branch?
[08:36] <ricotz> https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/log/?h=ubuntu-focal-6.4
[08:37] <marcustomlinson> ricotz: https://git.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/tree/changelog#n72
[08:37] <marcustomlinson> that change should be listed under the 1:6.4.3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1 changes IMO
[08:38] <ricotz> oh, I already mentioned this issue and it looked fixed
[08:38] <ricotz> guess not :\
[08:39] <marcustomlinson> no worries I'll fix it quick
[08:39] <seb128> jibel, the 'Week commencing <...>' email sent on every monday, looks like for some reason you are missing from the list :-/ I will add you next week, sorry about that
[08:39] <jibel> seb128, cool, thanks
[08:40] <seb128> it's usually just a summary of who is out
[08:40] <seb128> and sometime a reminder of freeze coming or such
[08:40] <seb128> you didn't miss much but still, sorry again
[09:25] <marcustomlinson> hellsworth, ricotz: uploaded - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=libreoffice
[09:44] <pieq> hello everyone, and good luck for the last bout before 20.04 release
[09:46] <jibel> Salut pieq, thank you
[09:54] <didrocks> thanks pieq-afk :)
[09:54] <Trevinho> hi folks 
[11:46] <ogra> oSoMoN, hmm, i'm seeing some weird behaviour from chromium ... my processlist is stuffed with "sleep 60" calls that seem to be children of chromium.launcher
[11:46] <ogra> ogra@acheron:~$ ps aux|grep -c "sleep 60"
[11:46] <ogra> 27
[11:48] <oSoMoN> ogra, yeah, see last few comments on bug #1864901
[11:48] <oSoMoN> I'm working on it
[11:48] <ogra> ok
[11:48] <ogra> oh, it was refreshed !
[11:48]  * ogra restarts it
[11:48] <oSoMoN> ogra, if you have a suggestion on how to terminate a background process when the parent process is terminated, I'm interested in hearing it
[11:49] <oSoMoN> my sh-fu is very weak
[11:50] <ogra> oSoMoN, inotifywait ? (from inotify-tools)
[11:51] <ogra> (instead of the sleep)
[11:51] <oSoMoN> ah, that looks useful, I'll read the man page, thanks
[12:02] <ogra> that snaps have no startup notification when launched from the dock is  aknown bug i guess ? 
[12:02] <ogra> *a known
[12:06] <oSoMoN> not sure there's a bug report to track it
[13:52] <ogra> kenvandine, anything to discuss from your side ? (we have a bigger meeting next fri. anyway i think)
[13:52] <kenvandine> ogra: nope, thanks!
[14:02] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:03] <kenvandine> good morning
[14:07] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth, kenvandine 
[14:07] <hellsworth> hi there
[14:12] <didrocks> hey hellsworth 
[14:13] <hellsworth> hi didrocks 
[15:56] <seb128> Laney, https://people.canonical.com/~seb128/ubiquity/secure/securebefore.png vs https://people.canonical.com/~seb128/ubiquity/secure/secure90.png , looks a bit weird with the button, wdyt? improvement still or not?
[15:57] <Laney> why do they end up all the way over there?
[15:57] <Laney> still looks buggy I'd say
[15:57] <seb128> the 'Learn more...' could be made part of the label with a markup also but that's a bit more complex (especially if we want to avoid a string change, need to append from the code the existing label)
[15:58] <seb128> Laney, because it's aligned on the longer label
[15:58] <seb128> Laney, with 100 as max-width https://people.canonical.com/~seb128/ubiquity/secure/secure100.png
[15:58] <seb128> which is a bit better but still not great
[15:59] <seb128> I will try moving it in the label and override the handler I guess, should look nicer
[16:00] <seb128> it's more work than setting a max-width though
[16:02] <Laney> nod, sorry that's what it seemed like it would be at first
[16:02] <seb128> no worry :)
[16:05] <marcustomlinson> hmm, can someone else try an upgrade from eoan to focal via `update-manager -d -c`
[16:05] <marcustomlinson> at some point in the upgrade my vm just goes to a blank screen with flashing cursor
[16:08] <marcustomlinson> oh, if I switch tty and follow the journal it seems like the upgrade is still going on
[16:12] <marcustomlinson> hmm, ok now this is tty2 (full screen): https://imgur.com/a/V31Yo9H
[16:13] <marcustomlinson> quite possible a vm issue
[16:19] <jibel> marcustomlinson, is there a crash of gnome shell maybe?
[16:20] <marcustomlinson> jibel: no crashes in /var/crash
[16:22] <jibel> marcustomlinson, and nothing in the journal that indicates a crash?
[16:23] <jibel> or out of memory
[16:23] <marcustomlinson> jibel: running it again, I'll watch the journal
[16:39] <marcustomlinson> jibel: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Bnp5M9XWYP/
[16:40] <marcustomlinson> looks like the shell did crash, see from "GNOME Shell crashed with signal 11"
[16:47] <marcustomlinson> jibel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1874491
[16:55] <jibel> marcustomlinson, how much memory did you allocate to your vm?
[16:56] <marcustomlinson> jibel: 2GB
[16:56] <jibel> can you try with 4?
[16:56] <marcustomlinson> k
[16:56] <oerheks> how much videomemory?
[16:56] <oerheks> and enabled 3d?
[16:57] <marcustomlinson> 3d acc enabled, 512MB dedicated
[17:08] <marcustomlinson> jibel: still crashed
[17:30] <marcustomlinson> tried 8GB RAM even, no difference. same crash every time
[17:32] <jibel> if it crashes with 4 it'll crash with anything. seb128 ^ any idea. glib crash during upgrade
[17:48] <seb128> without a stacktrace it's hard to say
[17:49] <seb128> marcustomlinson, can you attach gdb to the shell before the upgrade from a vt or ssh and get a bt? ideal would be with debug symbols
[17:49] <marcustomlinson> I would like if someone else tried it
[17:49] <marcustomlinson> but yeah I can try that tomorrow
[17:49] <seb128> libraries and co changing under a running process is problematic
[17:49] <seb128> marcustomlinson, I can give it a try
[17:50] <seb128> we should switch to out of session upgrades one day...
[17:50] <jibel> 20.04 is out, congrats desktop team!
[17:51] <seb128> wooot
[17:51] <seb128> congrats to all for the hard work and the nice result!
[17:52] <ricotz> \o/
[17:55]  * ogra wishes willcooke a happy 20.04
[17:55] <willcooke> Congrats all!   
[17:55] <willcooke> Happy 20.04 ogra!
[17:57] <willcooke> Everyone taking a day off tomorrow?  Going anywhere nice? lulz
[17:59] <Laney> :D
[18:00] <ogra> willcooke, a tour to the kithen !
[18:00] <ogra> *kitchen
[18:00] <willcooke> Live stream it
[18:08] <marcustomlinson> hey willcooke!
[18:21] <oSoMoN> willcooke, don't tempt me!
[18:23] <willcooke> hi marcustomlinson oSoMoN  o/
[18:57] <marcustomlinson> seb128: I attached the stack trace to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1874491
[19:00] <marcustomlinson> seb128: actually looks like it could be a dup of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1843982
[19:11] <marcustomlinson> seb128: yeah it's the same trace
[19:11] <marcustomlinson> marking as duplicate
[19:12] <Laney> feel free to take that over :-)
[19:12] <marcustomlinson> I really can't man sorry
[19:14] <Laney> damn worth a try