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valeriobuongiorno a tutti07:44
valeriovolevo fare una domanda a chi mi puo rispondere.07:45
valerioho da qualche giorno installato ubuntu studio 20.04 e nel menu non riesco a trovare il software center per installare nuovi programmi.07:47
valerioqualcuno sa per caso dove si trova?07:48
shaban238non si chiama piu software center07:49
shaban238lo trovi con il nome di snap store07:49
valeriograzie ora verifico07:50
sakrecoer[m]re: launchpad bug subscription... so weird... the bug is present neither in subscribed nor in commented, despite me doing both...08:55
StevenJayCohen<sakrecoer[m] "re: launchpad bug subscription.."> I'd be happy to check, but it seems that everything is running at a crawl right now (naturally). What bug are you trying to track?08:58
sakrecoer[m]Steven Jay Cohen: this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-oem-osp1/+bug/186406109:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1864061 in linux-oem-osp1 (Ubuntu Eoan) "PCI/internal sound card not detected" [Undecided,Fix released]09:00
sakrecoer[m]it's not ubuntustudio related... not expecting answers here, just hoping  :D i'm just to lazy to go on IRC... would need to go through too much config inflating life in my irssi shell again...09:04
StevenJayCohenEverything is absolutely crawling right now because of the new release09:11
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romsomHi there!10:26
romsomI was just looking for an Ubuntustudio iso and noticed they are hosted without SSL (including the checksums).10:27
romsomIs there a secure way to verify the validity of the iso or torrent I just downloaded?10:28
Eickmeyerromsom: cdimage.ubuntu.com should have the checksums.10:28
vltEickmeyer: But no SSL :-|10:29
romsomvlt: exactly! I found that there are detached PGP signatures for the checksums though10:31
vltshaban238: Is "snap store" the new frontend for apt?10:33
romsomAlso there are no checksums for the .torrent file. I'm not so sure I want to hand that file to transmission without any validation :/10:33
shaban238@vlt yes10:36
Eickmeyervlt: That's canonical's infrastructure. It's not like you're passing private information to the server, so no need to worry.10:36
romsomEickmeyer: I'm more concerned with the validity of the iso.10:37
Eickmeyerromsom: Then verify with the checksums posted on that site.10:37
EickmeyerThat site is THE authority.10:38
romsomWhich, again, could have been compromised10:38
romsom(The checksum I mean)10:38
Eickmeyerromsom: You're getting it for free. There's litereallly NOTHING I can do about it.10:38
romsomEickmeyer: I'm not complaining about your advice. Sorry if it came across like that!10:39
EickmeyerThis is how ALL Ubntu flavors, including Ubuntu proper, are presented.10:39
EickmeyerIf it doesn't work for you, don't download it.10:39
romsomWell that's a bit disappointing. A fix wouldn't be so hard, even without changing Cannonical's official infrastructure: Just add a direct link to the checksums to the ubuntustudio server (behind SSL of course) and put a note about against PGP key the detached signature should be checked on the download page.10:43
EickmeyerWhat do you mean??? Canonical does all the hosting. I have ZERO control over how the ISO is hosted. Zero.10:44
EickmeyerThere is no Ubuntu Studio server. It's all Ubuntu. Not separate10:45
romsomAh, I see10:45
romsomI thought Ubuntu Studio was a community project. My mistake, sorry!10:45
EickmeyerIt's a community project, but it's not a separate distribution.10:45
EickmeyerNo official Ubuntu flavor is a separate distribution from Ubuntu.10:46
romsomSo you don't have control over the website contents at ubuntustudio.org?10:46
EickmeyerI have control over the contents, but not the hosting.10:46
romsomOK, then the fix I proposed would work10:47
vltEickmeyer: You might to calm down a bit ;-)  Nobody is accusing ou of anything.10:47
EickmeyerI can't, for instance, upload an ISO to the website.10:47
Eickmeyervlt: I"m calm.10:47
romsomEickmeyer: That not necessary. The checksums and the fingerprint of the key with which the checksums on cdimage.ubuntu.com were signed are enough10:48
EickmeyerThe thing is, these options being presented are not possible for us. Our website is simply a wordpress instance. I don't even have access to the root.10:48
romsomIt's all just plain text :)10:48
EickmeyerCanonical owns the server.10:48
romsomCould you add the contents of SHA256SUMS to the download page then?10:50
EickmeyerNo, because it hasn't released yet. What are you downloading?10:50
romsom19.1010:51
EickmeyerWhy when 20.04 comes out in a matter of hours?10:51
EickmeyerHere's your checksum: d46703f4f8be6adc4a38c622611dc3d72307deea5804bd649c46bebb5da7470b *ubuntustudio-19.10-dvd-amd64.iso10:51
EickmeyerGuess where I pulled that?10:52
Eickmeyerhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/19.10/release/SHA256SUMS10:52
EickmeyerI have no other source. I don't even make the ISO myself, it's all automated.10:52
romsomBecause I need it now and also because I didn't know, 20.04 was coming so soon :)10:52
Eickmeyerromsom: You claim you've been to the website. On the front page, it says "Final Version Coming April 23".10:53
shaban238i would suggest also to wait for the 20.0410:54
romsomOk, sorry for stealing your time then at such a time :)10:54
EickmeyerIf I'm coming across as angry, I apologize. It's release day, and that's always a little stressful. You're literally the only person that has ever complained about the lack of SSL. If you don't like it, take it up with Canonical.10:55
romsomOk, no harm done :) Thanks for taking the time anyway!10:56
romsomHave a painless uind successful release day! - And thanks for you work! :)10:58
Eickmeyerromsom: Thanks for stopping by. :)10:58
shaban238Eickmeyer at which time its planned the release today?11:04
Eickmeyershaban238: It's ready when it's ready.11:05
shaban238ok :)11:05
StevenJayCohenshaban238: You could just plan to install over the weekend11:06
shaban238im already using the beta and i should say my complimets to all developers, really great job :D11:07
StevenJayCohenSo it will become the release on its own, you don't need to do anything11:07
shaban238yep11:07
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zardozo[m]when are they releasing it today?15:30
Eickmeyerzardozo[m]: It's ready when it's ready.15:31
zardozo[m]lol kk15:31
zardozo[m]thank you. great job you guys diare doin15:32
zardozo[m]are15:32
Eickmeyerzardozo[m]: Thanks. :)15:34
wingedrhinoWhen are the 20.04 links expected to be updated?17:10
StevenJayCohenI see the new link on the website now17:11
wingedrhinoWhich timezone is the release team based in BTW?17:11
wingedrhinoI'm at UTC+05:30, so spent the last 12 hours wondering where the links are lol17:12
daxmaybe we should just tell people ubuntu releases are on fridays17:13
daxwould confuse the UTC+foo people a bit less :P17:13
StevenJayCohenWhy not just load up a local mirror directory and forget about the site links?17:13
wingedrhinoStevenJayCohen, I didn't find the link on the website, but I edited the link myself lol17:14
wingedrhinohttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/focal/release/ubuntustudio-20.04-dvd-amd64.iso17:14
wingedrhino:D17:14
EickmeyerThat ISO is subject to change until it's officially released.17:14
StevenJayCohenHere's my POV. They said sometime today. So, since it is still today somewhere, it isn't late. Were I planning on installing, I'd wait until it was tomorrow everywhere before looking for the ISO17:15
EickmeyerI will be posting on the website, tweeting, sending an email, and posting on Facebook when it's released.17:15
EickmeyerUntil then... DO NOT DOWNLOAD.17:15
Eickmeyerwingedrhino:17:15
daxor do, but if it changes we'll all laugh at you17:15
dax(seriously though, don't)17:15
Eickmeyerhahaha17:15
wingedrhinoEickmeyer, yeah makes sense lol17:15
shaban238haha17:16
StevenJayCohenSo, everyone but wingedrhino can download now, yes?17:16
* Eickmeyer glares at StevenJayCohen17:16
wingedrhinoI'm going to be honest here, I'm more excited about Ardour 6.0 than UbuntuStudio 20.04.17:16
* StevenJayCohen returns to his corner and mutters to himself17:17
Eickmeyerwingedrhino: I plan on backporting that when it's released. Might be its own backport repo since I don't want to mess-up those that still need 5.12.17:17
wingedrhinoEickmeyer, yeah that be cool! The websocket server is interesting. A few friends of mine did an online concert where one of them sent their OSC UDP packets to the other, with SuperCollider. I want to see if I can create similar workflows on Ardour.17:19
EickmeyerThere are some special things that were done for live mixing too (my forte), so I'm excited for that.17:19
wingedrhinoI'm not sure if they support sending MIDI via WebSockets yet though. But I'm writing a little MIDI proxy myself! Hoping I can contribute it to UbuntuStudio when it's out lol17:20
EickmeyerOvenWerks knows more about that. He contributes to Ardour.17:20
wingedrhinoI've a friend with an electric drumkit that might or might not speak MIDI. It'd be interesting if I can get him to live jam with me during quarantine. Ideally only the guitarist/vocalist would need to send audio signals, so they can run the server. Keys and Drums can be MIDI.17:21
wingedrhinoIs there any other program in UbuntuStudio that does MIDI proxy over internet? Like if I want to send signals from my MIDI controller to you, and have it show up as a virtual midi device on your box?17:23
EickmeyerI'm not sure. Hang on, got release management-type stuff going on.17:24
wingedrhinoGood luck! And remember, it's always cool to be fashionably late :D17:25
EickmeyerMeh, it'll be released within minutes of the official Ubuntu annoucement.17:25
wingedrhinoBah! We're musicians! Our timezone is UTC+23:59 :p17:27
OvenWerkswingedrhino: Studio has qmidinet17:27
OvenWerksOSC, midi and webkit are all different17:28
OvenWerksthe webkit deal was at one time going to interface with the OSC setup... but the creater of that module did it their own way so it is different17:29
OvenWerksThere is as yet no section in the Ardour manual describing the web interface.17:30
OvenWerksit is very much a WIP. It landed as a PR less than two weeks ago (maybe only one?).17:30
wingedrhinoOvenWerks, aah okay. But still, the possibilities are endless! Just peeped into qMidiNet. Does it come with a documented API? I don't see one right now. If it does, you could have a webapp talk to it, and then you can use generic midi learn on your other machine to control Ardour.17:33
wingedrhinoThat IMO would be a more "generic" solution which can work for multiple applications.17:34
OvenWerksit is based on the protocol is the windows ipmidi applet17:38
OvenWerksThere is someone working on rtpmidi, but it was not complete/released in time (still not beyond beta if I remember correctly) to get packaged and include in Studio.17:39
OvenWerksI think there as a MacOS version of ipmidi as well. That is about as generic is they come.17:40
OvenWerksI still don't see how midi (of any sort) would be connected to a web app.17:41
OvenWerksArdour's webkit interface is control only, no audio or midi interface (which would need to real time... which the web anything is not)17:42
wingedrhinoYou'd be able to do that, but only use MIDI for control.17:42
OvenWerksweb audio/video is generally latent from source by at least 500ms17:43
OvenWerkswhy? you can already talk directly to Ardour via midi, why add a slow web midi interface?17:43
wingedrhinoRealistically I just need a bunch of on/off toggle buttons and sliders on a browser that's in the same WiFi network as the DAW.17:44
OvenWerksboth OSC and the webkit can do that... OSC is more mature17:44
wingedrhinoBecause I don't own any midi controllers (I have a keyboard though), but I do own a couple of old phones with a slightly bad USB port.17:45
wingedrhinoThinking about gluing a phone case to my guitar so I can change patches while jamming without touching the laptop.17:45
wingedrhinoThe latency can't be THAT bad for MIDI in the same LAN though can it? I'd ideas about making these pads that play one bass note when you tap them, and noodling over it on my guitar.17:47
wingedrhinoI.e, they'd play a note and hold that note, until I hit a different pad, or tap the same pad again17:47
OvenWerkshttps://v0.openstagecontrol.ammd.net/ is an OSC controller for Ardour as an example. It can aslo be controled via a browser17:47
wingedrhinoAah yes I've come across that project.17:48
OvenWerkswingedrhino: install a drum applet on your cell phone and see if you can play drums just locally17:49
Eickmeyerhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2020-April/000256.html17:49
wingedrhinoEickmeyer, :p17:50
OvenWerksYahoo!17:50
wingedrhinoOvenWerks, about the latency though - I tried KDEConnect's remote control keyboard & touchpad. It is actually pretty usable! I reckon a MIDI server should be similar.17:51
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OvenWerkswingedrhino: I found the delay from tapping a drum on my phone screen to hearing that drum sound was so long so as to make it unusable.17:51
Eickmeyerhttps://ubuntustudio.org/2020/04/ubuntu-studio-20-04-lts-released/17:51
wingedrhinoOvenWerks, was this over LAN or was this over WAN?17:51
OvenWerkson the same phone17:52
OvenWerksno network involved17:52
wingedrhinoWell... I use some synths on the phone and they're a bit laggy too17:52
OvenWerksThe android audio stack is very slow17:52
wingedrhinoBut networking for sending tiny MIDI packets ought to be fast!17:53
OvenWerksyes. I tried a number of aplets for sound but the drums are most noticable because they are percusive17:53
wingedrhinoI agree. I stopped hunting for drum emulators, bought myself a Cajon and learnt to play it :D17:54
wingedrhinoIt's household furniture when not in use. And makes for a lovely standing desk if I put it on my regular desk and my laptop on it.17:54
OvenWerksEickmeyer: impress is included: nice17:55
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Yep, that was requested by a lot of people.17:56
wingedrhinoIs sheets included? I vaguely remember a version of UbuntuStudio lacking it.17:57
OvenWerksmissing due to bitrot (old python) does not include idjc17:57
OvenWerksEickmeyer: ^^17:57
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Correct.17:57
Eickmeyerwingedrhino: That's called Calc.17:57
wingedrhinoEickmeyer, yieks. Yeah that.17:58
* wingedrhino doesn't use office software that much anyway17:58
EickmeyerNo, it includes Calc.17:58
EickmeyerI had to double-check the seed. XD17:59
wingedrhinoEickmeyer, Cadence and Catia not yet available in UbuntuStudio, are they?18:03
OvenWerksCadence never will be18:04
linuxgeckoI'm trying to use OBS on ubuntu studio 19.10. there appears to be 2 entries for it.   one versions itself as 0.0.1, and the other is 25.0.7.  each has WORKING features i need,  but neither has both of the main features.18:04
wingedrhinoOvenWerks, what are the reasons behind that?18:05
OvenWerksThe author is end of lifing it18:05
OvenWerksit is very intrusive and can not be uninstalled18:06
OvenWerksit interferes with Studio-controls as well18:06
wingedrhinoYeah. I messed up the laptop I'm typing this from after setting up KXStudio repos.18:06
linuxgecko0.0.1 seems to have working direct input from jack, but no browser capture.  25.0.7 has browser capture, and SAYS it can add jack input clients, but they don't show up in qjackctl connections like they do when i use 0.0.1.   this feels like a permissions thing.  how can i fix it?18:06
OvenWerksfalktx is dividing the cadence package so the utilities will be separate packages18:07
OvenWerkswe will probably package all of them besides cadence18:07
OvenWerksif falktx decides to redo cadence so it works for us, we will look at it again in the future18:08
OvenWerkshowever, from what he has said cadence is a log way down the list for him if ever.18:09
OvenWerkslinuxgecko: I have been using OBS on 18.04 with no problems using both jack inputs and browser. I will have to look at what is in 20.0418:10
Eickmeyerlinuxgecko: You need to talk to the OBS people about that. We don't ship 25.0.7, so that tells me you're using something from outside the Ubuntu repos.18:11
EickmeyerIn other words, it's unsupported.18:11
Eickmeyer!obs-studio focal18:11
OvenWerksthe one in the ubuntu repos grabs browser18:11
Eickmeyer!info obs-studio focal18:12
ubottuobs-studio (source: obs-studio): recorder and streamer for live video content. In component universe, is optional. Version 25.0.3+dfsg1-2 (focal), package size 1523 kB, installed size 7674 kB18:12
EickmeyerAnd if you're on 19.10...18:12
Eickmeyer!info obs-studio eoan18:12
ubottuobs-studio (source: obs-studio): recorder and streamer for live video content. In component universe, is optional. Version 23.2.1+dfsg1-1 (eoan), package size 1392 kB, installed size 7168 kB (Only available for any-amd64)18:12
linuxgeckoOvenWerks: that's what i expected also.   focal is live for upgrading? i didn't get the message i expected.  i have it set to tell me, or so i thought18:13
EickmeyerFocal is live, but upgrades might be a few days.18:13
EickmeyerFocal went live less than 1/2 hour ago.18:14
OvenWerksI am not sure that audio follows video though. browser audio may have to be routed separately18:15
OvenWerkslinuxgecko: ^^18:15
linuxgeckobtw, i've avoided ubuntu for a long time because of a lot of reasons, but the fine job you guys did on 19.10 with the studio-secific stuff, brought me back for media stuff.  thanks :)18:15
OvenWerksI am not on my studio machine right now so I can't play with it18:15
OvenWerksyour welcome18:16
OvenWerksI was about ready to give up a few years ago.18:16
OvenWerks(and my studio machine is in the middle of an upgrade)18:17
* OvenWerks wants to spend time with his Yf before she goes to work18:17
linuxgeckothe biggest thing i've been trying to do on my own, that works EXCELLENTLY in studio, is marry jack and pulse as seemlessly as possible, so you don't have to clunk to get audio between them.18:18
OvenWerkslinuxgecko: I will be adding output to bluetooth via pulse some time soon.18:18
linuxgeckothat would be excellent :)18:19
OvenWerksI have a few bits to figure out some things for Ardour 6.0 release first18:20
linuxgeckothe one thing i want to do, and expect it should be working, and doesn't seem to, is routing sound to the 3 monitors on my RX 580.    and that doesn't seem to work....18:20
OvenWerksdocumentation mostly18:20
linuxgeckoone of them, i know it's a lost cause.  it's Active DP->HDMI->DVI  canverted.   but the other 2 are pure HDMI.18:21
linuxgecko!info qjackctl focal18:21
ubottuqjackctl (source: qjackctl): User interface for controlling the JACK sound server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu2 (focal), package size 441 kB, installed size 1811 kB18:21
StevenJayCohenHey linuxgecko OvenWerks I was wondering, in Ardour, can you set a punch in point without needing a punch out point?18:22
StevenJayCohenEssentially, write over the mistake and continue18:22
OvenWerkslinuxgecko:  hdmi sound is problematic for jack it may work for you with the buffer set really high (4096). I don't know if zita-ajbridge will handle that though.18:23
linuxgeckoOvenWerks large buffer intoduces delay tho, doesn't it?18:25
OvenWerkslinuxgecko: it may take some commandline messing about to figure it out. I do have an hdmi sound IF (adaptor from hdmi to audio and ntsc video) and will see if zita-ajbridge can be special cased to work18:25
OvenWerkshdmi expects dely18:25
linuxgeckook18:25
OvenWerksStevenJayCohen: I reall don't knw the answer to that18:26
OvenWerksStevenJayCohen: I haven't done enough tracking to know, in that case I normally start a new region and trim the start to where I want it.18:28
OvenWerkssometimes I will use a second track even18:28
OvenWerkslinuxgecko: something to know is that in the mainline computer world "low latency" means 30ms. This is what I found in the intel specs for their HDA chipsets.18:30
linuxgeckolow enough latency that many will not hear it :)18:30
OvenWerksthere are a lot HDA chips sets that will not even allow jack to start when set to buffer size of 64/218:31
OvenWerksat about 20 to 30 ms my playing suffers18:31
OvenWerksie, put a long cable on my bass and walk as far as it will go and I am out of time.18:31
StevenJayCohenIt's a way of working common in spoken word stuff (like audiobooks) not music -- record over a mispronunciation and continue with the chapter. But, since it isn't common in music, sometimes it's hard to get software like Ardour to work as desired.18:31
OvenWerksStevenJayCohen: have you asked in #ardour?18:32
OvenWerksor on the forum? ( https://discourse.ardour.org/ )18:33
OvenWerksPaul is working on the Ardour release notes so I guess 6.0 is out reall soon now.18:35
wingedrhinoOvenWerks, dang! That calls for even more celebration :D18:35
OvenWerksand  more backporting18:36
wingedrhinoPity the timelines didn't match with 20.04 though18:36
wingedrhinoAny big differences in the UI? I haven't yet checked it out.18:36
OvenWerksRobin wanted to release 6.0 a week ago, but it still would have been to late for us18:37
OvenWerksyes there are differences from ardour 5 to 618:37
wingedrhinoI've been using Ardour on and off for an year now. I still haven't figured out how to record in it lol. Only use it as a mixer, and record in Audacity.18:37
OvenWerksthe session file format has changed as well18:37
OvenWerksso ardour 6 can use ardour 5 session  files but ardour 5 can't use ardour 6 sessions18:38
wingedrhinoI suppose there's an option to convert v5 sessions into v6 sessions?18:38
OvenWerks( ardour 6 does keep a copy version 5 sessions as back up)18:39
OvenWerksif you try to open an old session file it will be converted18:39
OvenWerksI don't know how far it goes back.18:40
* OvenWerks needs to scan some homework for his son so he can hand it in18:40
wingedrhinoSince I never recorded anything, I can simply re-create my mixer/pedalboard on v6 and keep it clean.18:41
OvenWerksEickmeyer: regarding skanlite. it seems to be a step backwards for my use anyway19:10
linuxgeckoOvenWerks when you get back.  i just cleared out my obs-studio installed from the software app, and installed 23.2.1+dfsg-1 via apt on command-line to be sure. how are you getting browser-capture in that version? it's not showing in the "add source" list.19:10
OvenWerksit does not save to pdf, in particular multi page pdf.19:13
EickmeyerOvenWerks: gscan2pdf?19:13
OvenWerkslinuxgecko: sources->+->Window capture->create new->in dialog there is a window dropdown, select your browser window19:14
OvenWerksEickmeyer: that is to scan with or takes scans already made and combines them?19:15
EickmeyerOvenWerks: both, I believe.19:15
* Eickmeyer hasn't used that in ages19:15
OvenWerksit looks from the description, to be all cli19:21
OvenWerksanyway installing all the scanner guis I can find :)19:22
EickmeyerHahaha19:23
Eickmeyergscan2pdf is a gui.19:23
linuxgeckoOvenWerks ok.  that probably works. but it's not quite what i was expecting. when i stream from windows, i can select a URL as a source, and my alerts display in a scene layer.19:24
linuxgeckoOvenWerks the current implimentation in OBS on linux basically uses a CEF instance to render it. ok. i thought that's what you had working.19:26
linuxgeckoit's builtin as of 25.x, which focal has. but eoan doesn't.  I guess i just need to wait a few days for update options.19:27
Eickmeyerlinuxgecko: You can upgrade now if you want. Type "update-manager -d".19:30
EickmeyerThat will force the upgrade19:30
OvenWerksEickmeyer: gscan2pdf works fine19:32
OvenWerksand despite it's description, it does have a gui19:32
EickmeyerOvenWerks: That tells me someone in Debian didn't update debian/control in the packaging.19:33
StevenJayCohen<OvenWerks "Steven Jay Cohen: have you asked"> Not recently, which is of course my fault.19:34
linuxgeckoEickmeyer it's stable now? or is the wait because of bandwidth planning or something?19:37
linuxgecko!info qjackctl eoan19:38
ubottuqjackctl (source: qjackctl): User interface for controlling the JACK sound server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 439 kB, installed size 1811 kB19:39
linuxgecko!info qjackctl focal19:39
ubottuqjackctl (source: qjackctl): User interface for controlling the JACK sound server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-1ubuntu2 (focal), package size 441 kB, installed size 1811 kB19:39
Eickmeyerlinuxgecko: It's stable, just upgrades aren't as well tested.19:39
linuxgeckook.19:39
Eickmeyerlinuxgecko: Also, we don't support using qjackctl here. We replaced it with Ubuntu Studio Controls19:39
Eickmeyer!ubuntustudio-controls19:39
ubottuUbuntu Studio Controls is the application through which audio is configured in Ubuntu Studio. It configures Jack, sets the CPU governor, and ensures the user has realtime audio permissions. For more info, see !jack and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UbuntuStudioControls19:39
linuxgeckoare we going to get qjackctl with the nice graph connections anytime soon? my spiderweb is getting rought to maintain.  it's not static enough for patchbay to always be helpful.19:41
OvenWerksOk, somehow a bunch of my applications have vanished19:41
Eickmeyerlinuxgecko: You can use Carla for your patchbay.19:41
OvenWerksEickmeyer: xsane also works but it looks like it has a bigger learning curve19:41
EickmeyerOvenWerks: If it depended on Python 2, it's pretty much gone.19:42
OvenWerksno I mean stuf that was installed is gone19:42
EickmeyerOdd.19:43
OvenWerkslike -installer and -controls19:43
OvenWerksprobably why my icons are odd19:43
EickmeyerYou must've uninstalled something one of those depends on.19:43
OvenWerksI am not sure what19:44
EickmeyerI didn't have that issue here, but E:UpSince3AM19:44
OvenWerksstudio on top of kubuntu?19:44
EickmeyerYep.19:44
linuxgeckoEickmeyer things like that usually set off hazmat-level warnings. or you should know better than to remove them.. :/19:45
OvenWerksinstaller shows everything installed19:45
EickmeyerI'd do a fresh install to test, but again, ERR:UpSince3Am, ERR:MustRest19:45
OvenWerksits' ok19:45
OvenWerksI'll maybe try again19:45
OvenWerksIcon trouble19:47
OvenWerksI think icons is my whole problem. Once I solve that things will be fine19:47
OvenWerksI don't know how installer vanished though19:47
linuxgeckoEickmeyer THANK YOU for recommending carla!  much of this is what i need from the newer qjack :)19:55
StevenJayCohen<linuxgecko "Eickmeyer THANK YOU for recommen"> Carla is an amazing piece of software20:00
wingedrhinoI'm going to try something funny. I'm installing UbuntuStudio in a virtualbox VM, then copy the disk image onto a USB drive and try booting from it on another laptop.20:11
OvenWerkswingedrhino: depending on the system, A USB drive with the ISO running live will be faster than an install on the same USB drive.20:18
OvenWerksIt depends on the ration of cpu speed/ram to USB drive speed20:18
OvenWerksThe ISO file system is compressed and so is retrieved faster but takes time to uncompress.20:19
wingedrhinoOvenWerks, yeah but I also want LUKS encryption and all that. I'm trying to test an idea whereby I can give a bunch of pre-setup 64GB USB drives to people that has a full UbuntuStudio experience, including the ability to save files, install updates, etc.20:20
wingedrhinoAnd leave the main HDD untouched.20:21
PLChi' there21:09
PLCA simple question about Ardour ...21:12
PLCis it free, we know it ...21:12
PLCYou must built yourself if you don't want limitation21:12
PLCis it precompiled version on ubuntustudio without stuff to do to use it ?21:13
OvenWerksPLC: I am not sure what you mean21:13
OvenWerksthe version in ubuntu is a full version that has been compiled by ubuntu developers with the system libs21:14
OvenWerks it is not the same as any of the downloadable versions from ardour.org but can exist on the saem system and the user cqan choose which to use21:14
OvenWerkshowever it should work the same and use the same session files21:15
PLCok a full version without restrictions ?21:15
OvenWerksthere are no restrictions21:15
PLC:)21:15
PLCI'm waiting today since 15 days this new vesion, and maybe use it for Long time ;)21:16
OvenWerksI am doing an install here myself21:17
PLCalmost all the software i use is in it ...21:18
PLCI'm in VBox just tu test an application I need21:18
PLCjust for testing*21:18
PLCseems work in live session21:18
PLCI just hesitate with desk environnement21:20

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