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bluesabreUnless the next build makes a mess of things, I think the release notes are now ready.01:14
-BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 20.04 - amd64 - amd64 built.07:46
ochosiawesome, thanks bluesabre!07:48
Unit193jphilips: At some point before you add the bot to #xubuntu, there has to be a discussion as to whether the team wants a telegram bridge, who would have access, mods on the "other side", etc.09:55
jphilipsUnit193: yes understood, though it seems strange that nobody replied to the email thread stating they were against it before actual work began to implement it09:58
Unit193jphilips: When you initially asked in here, someone said what has to happen.  I was waiting for that discussion.09:58
Unit193With regards to a trial, that could have been to see if it was worthwhile to seek.  I dunno. :)09:59
jphilipsyes pleia2 mentioned we'd need a sysadmin to manage the bot, which i did mention in my email about the group10:00
Unit193Personally, I don't see why it makes sense for a support channel, we don't have askubuntu questions being piped into #xubuntu, the mailing list, forums, etc.10:00
jphilipsregarding who would have access, bluesabre, the bot maintainer, and whomever else from the team wishes10:04
bluesabreI'm personally not opposed to it. If it means more people answering the questions or more contributors in general, it seems like a win.10:22
bluesabreWith how dead silent it can be in here and -offtopic, I'd also be in favor of bridging both of those channels as well.10:25
Unit193Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of spam in the #kubuntu one, sounds like this is a good thing to discuss at the next meeting.10:29
jphilipsjust spoke with someone who searched for our support on telegram and joined the group :D10:31
jphilipsspam from the telegram or irc side on #kubuntu?10:31
bluesabre#xubuntu-devel.2020-03-31.log:10:54:50 < pleia2> dev.xubuntu.org is an Ubuntu server, if we have at least 2 systems type folks to volunteer to be on call for it, we can discuss setting it up10:34
bluesabre#xubuntu-devel.2020-03-31.log:10:55:14 < pleia2> but like all of our shared resources for the project, this really has to be a team decision, presented with pros/cons and whatnot10:34
bluesabrejphilips: do you mind starting a proposal somewhere so we can bring it up in the next meeting? You have buy-in from me, but we need to get the rest of the team in on it with a discussion.10:34
bluesabreI'm planning to get the next meeting on the calendar for sometime next week.10:35
Unit193We need to re-staff council too.10:36
bluesabreYep.10:36
jphilipsput the proposal in a google doc?10:36
bluesabreAnd drop some folks out of team that haven't been seen in 6+ months (more like 18+ months)10:36
bluesabrejphilips: do you have access to our wiki? (https://wiki.xubuntu.org/)10:36
jphilipsbluesabre: no unless i can login with launchpad10:37
bluesabreI'll hook you up.10:38
ochosijust to add my 2cents10:40
ochosii'm not sure i'm a huge fan of telegram for this10:40
bluesabreFunnily, today's the day Windows decided to overtake my bootloader. So now I'm stuck in Redmond land.10:40
ochosii mean there are really lots of platforms we could move to10:41
bluesabreI think it's less about moving to platforms and more extended the number of platforms that can communicate with us.10:42
ochosimatrix, discord, ...10:42
ochosiyeah10:42
ochosibut ultimately we are "suggesting" platforms when bridging them10:42
ochositelegram wouldn't be the first that comes to my mind10:43
Unit193I think I'd highly recommend against Matrix though. :P10:43
ochosiheh10:43
ochosii think it's a topic where everybody has an option ;)10:43
bluesabreI've been pulled into several Linux-specific telegram groups the last couple of months. There seems to be a current push there.10:43
ochosibut in any case, i don't really actively hang out in #xubuntu anymore, so i won't oppose any of this10:43
ochosiyou're seemingly more "connected" than me ;)10:44
ochosii have only been "pulled" into discord so far10:44
ochosiand my experience with it has been a little mixed10:44
bluesabreNot a good thing, I didn't have time for all the work I was already doing :D10:44
ochosicool features like posting screenshots (really helps), sucky things like being out of sync sometimes...10:45
jphilipsbluesabre: yep that happened to be alot when i would update windows :D11:03
Unit193Dual-booting seems more finicky than it used to even.11:04
bluesabreYeah, first time happening in quite a long time since using EFI. Considering just paving over Windows on this computer.11:05
bluesabreGaming on Linux has gotten to be not bad since Proton appeared.11:05
jphilipswhen i used to volunteer with libreoffice 3 years ago, we setup the same telegram bridge and it was quite beneficial, atleast in the dev channels i was part of, as i pushed for it to be setup there11:06
jphilipsyou can see the list of bridges that use the bridge which was used there - https://docs.teleirc.com/en/latest/about/who-uses-teleirc/11:07
jphilipsfedora is on the list11:07
bluesabreYaru theme development is on Telegram. That's the group I got pulled into. And the Destination Linux community (who  are a chaaaaaaatttttty bunch)11:10
jphilipsyep i went in there as well - DLN11:10
jphilipsalso went into ubuntu podcast telegram to get in contact with popey11:10
jphilipsalso went into jupiter broadcasting telegram as well11:10
bluesabreIf anybody has a few moments to spare, looks like most of the builds are getting marked as ready. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/412/builds/211153/testcases11:12
bluesabreWe just have a remaining post-install one.11:12
bluesabreI'm not in my normal virt setup on this side of the hard drive. >.<11:12
jphilipshere is a preview of the what's new video that will be published tomorrow, though additional changes are upcoming - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iHEopDjzjltW48vqwcsZNRPSDAFhL-1O/view?usp=sharing11:23
bluesabrejphilips: oh nice, you got Joe :D11:30
jphilipsyep i got Joe11:30
jphilipsone of xfce's biggest media fans11:30
bluesabrexubuntu too :)11:31
bluesabrejphilips: that's really well done.11:32
jphilipsof course xubuntu as well11:33
jphilipsthanks11:34
ochosihmm, i'd recommend not using greybird-dark with its regular window borders11:51
ochosithat really looks a bit crappy...11:51
bluesabreochosi: that's just a preview in the wrong spot, while they're going to set them11:52
bluesabre> Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been marked as ready11:52
ochosiother than this, awesome sauce!11:53
ochosioh ok11:53
ochosii was distracted by the preview screenshot11:54
ochosinice job jphilips 11:54
jphilipsochosi: so are greybird-dark window borders going to be improved, so that you'd recommend it11:54
jphilipsthanks11:55
ochosiin what respect improved?12:14
ochosii only meant: dont mix regular greybird window borders with greybird dark12:15
ochosibut you didn't do that in the video - only the initial thumbnail is misleading12:15
jphilipsxubuntu is up there - https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dc7Z5IjXCTijPAPLcJga2vBhjj8wheXOjS8rFz4jNYiV9TCmB9dAQ29Ks3Oi8LhkW0W93vKLJ6D5TkJcsJ7e5rs47BvMxv3r9qXx3yE3xXVau4LA7yGt0jy9r7sRKbw-fO3DPV1_14:53
jphilipsoh wait, wrong green :D14:54
jphilipsor maybe i'm mistaken14:54
albinardDownloaded and installed the Xubuntu Core 0423 ISO on HP p7-1010, AMD64, BIOS.  Install went smoothly, currently running well, configuring now.15:36
LuckyScoobyThis should be definitely taken into account: https://contest.xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/DORIME.png16:57
LuckyScoobyLoL16:57
jphilipsUnit193: any idea when the 20.04 downloads will appear on the download page17:39
jphilipsany eta on when we'll be announcing the release for xubuntu?19:52
bluesabrejphilips: will try to do that when I get off work, unless somebody else beats me to it20:02
jphilipsbluesabre: never done it before, so wouldnt know what to do, so i guess its in your hands20:03
jphilipsi presume you have website access - here is the page with most of the stuff already completed - https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=4804&action=edit20:04
jphilipsyou may have to made adjustments to the known issues, as i only put in the xfce pulseaudio plugin issue20:04
bluesabrejphilips: will do. Should have it in the next hour. I updated the release itself, but I think the download page has to be updated separately.20:18
bluesabreOh jeez, don't copy and paste with Gutenberg20:59
ochosi:)21:04
bluesabreAlrighty, got the downloads page ready. Just tidying up the announcement, and then I'll publish everything at once.21:10
ochosinnnice21:13
bluesabre!team | I've updated the site for the 20.04 release. Please let me know if I missed anything.21:27
ubottuI've updated the site for the 20.04 release. Please let me know if I missed anything.: akxwi-dave, bluesabre, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit19321:27
ochosibluesabre: isn't this https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ rather xubuntu.org/download?21:31
ochosii mean there's a redirect anyway21:31
bluesabreYeah, probably better to use the direct link.21:32
ochosinice work!21:33
ochosione would probably expect more xfce 4.14 references21:33
ochosibut i guess it would be a repetition of the 19.10 release notes21:33
bluesabreFeel free to update it as you see fit :) I got off work and went straight to publishing the release :D21:35
bluesabreBut I'm hungryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy21:35
ochosihehe21:35
ochositbh i'm also rather destroyed and should go to bed soon21:35
ochositoo many xfce gitlab and icon nights..21:35
Unit193\o/22:01
Unit193...At some point I should mention in here that I've "released" Xubuntu Core too, seeding torrent and everything.22:57

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