=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:14] Unless the next build makes a mess of things, I think the release notes are now ready. [07:46] -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 20.04 - amd64 - amd64 built. [07:48] awesome, thanks bluesabre! [09:55] jphilips: At some point before you add the bot to #xubuntu, there has to be a discussion as to whether the team wants a telegram bridge, who would have access, mods on the "other side", etc. [09:58] Unit193: yes understood, though it seems strange that nobody replied to the email thread stating they were against it before actual work began to implement it [09:58] jphilips: When you initially asked in here, someone said what has to happen. I was waiting for that discussion. [09:59] With regards to a trial, that could have been to see if it was worthwhile to seek. I dunno. :) [10:00] yes pleia2 mentioned we'd need a sysadmin to manage the bot, which i did mention in my email about the group [10:00] Personally, I don't see why it makes sense for a support channel, we don't have askubuntu questions being piped into #xubuntu, the mailing list, forums, etc. [10:04] regarding who would have access, bluesabre, the bot maintainer, and whomever else from the team wishes [10:22] I'm personally not opposed to it. If it means more people answering the questions or more contributors in general, it seems like a win. [10:25] With how dead silent it can be in here and -offtopic, I'd also be in favor of bridging both of those channels as well. [10:29] Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of spam in the #kubuntu one, sounds like this is a good thing to discuss at the next meeting. [10:31] just spoke with someone who searched for our support on telegram and joined the group :D [10:31] spam from the telegram or irc side on #kubuntu? [10:34] #xubuntu-devel.2020-03-31.log:10:54:50 < pleia2> dev.xubuntu.org is an Ubuntu server, if we have at least 2 systems type folks to volunteer to be on call for it, we can discuss setting it up [10:34] #xubuntu-devel.2020-03-31.log:10:55:14 < pleia2> but like all of our shared resources for the project, this really has to be a team decision, presented with pros/cons and whatnot [10:34] jphilips: do you mind starting a proposal somewhere so we can bring it up in the next meeting? You have buy-in from me, but we need to get the rest of the team in on it with a discussion. [10:35] I'm planning to get the next meeting on the calendar for sometime next week. [10:36] We need to re-staff council too. [10:36] Yep. [10:36] put the proposal in a google doc? [10:36] And drop some folks out of team that haven't been seen in 6+ months (more like 18+ months) [10:36] jphilips: do you have access to our wiki? (https://wiki.xubuntu.org/) [10:37] bluesabre: no unless i can login with launchpad [10:38] I'll hook you up. [10:40] just to add my 2cents [10:40] i'm not sure i'm a huge fan of telegram for this [10:40] Funnily, today's the day Windows decided to overtake my bootloader. So now I'm stuck in Redmond land. [10:41] i mean there are really lots of platforms we could move to [10:42] I think it's less about moving to platforms and more extended the number of platforms that can communicate with us. [10:42] matrix, discord, ... [10:42] yeah [10:42] but ultimately we are "suggesting" platforms when bridging them [10:43] telegram wouldn't be the first that comes to my mind [10:43] I think I'd highly recommend against Matrix though. :P [10:43] heh [10:43] i think it's a topic where everybody has an option ;) [10:43] I've been pulled into several Linux-specific telegram groups the last couple of months. There seems to be a current push there. [10:43] but in any case, i don't really actively hang out in #xubuntu anymore, so i won't oppose any of this [10:44] you're seemingly more "connected" than me ;) [10:44] i have only been "pulled" into discord so far [10:44] and my experience with it has been a little mixed [10:44] Not a good thing, I didn't have time for all the work I was already doing :D [10:45] cool features like posting screenshots (really helps), sucky things like being out of sync sometimes... [11:03] bluesabre: yep that happened to be alot when i would update windows :D [11:04] Dual-booting seems more finicky than it used to even. [11:05] Yeah, first time happening in quite a long time since using EFI. Considering just paving over Windows on this computer. [11:05] Gaming on Linux has gotten to be not bad since Proton appeared. [11:06] when i used to volunteer with libreoffice 3 years ago, we setup the same telegram bridge and it was quite beneficial, atleast in the dev channels i was part of, as i pushed for it to be setup there [11:07] you can see the list of bridges that use the bridge which was used there - https://docs.teleirc.com/en/latest/about/who-uses-teleirc/ [11:07] fedora is on the list [11:10] Yaru theme development is on Telegram. That's the group I got pulled into. And the Destination Linux community (who are a chaaaaaaatttttty bunch) [11:10] yep i went in there as well - DLN [11:10] also went into ubuntu podcast telegram to get in contact with popey [11:10] also went into jupiter broadcasting telegram as well [11:12] If anybody has a few moments to spare, looks like most of the builds are getting marked as ready. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/412/builds/211153/testcases [11:12] We just have a remaining post-install one. [11:12] I'm not in my normal virt setup on this side of the hard drive. >.< [11:23] here is a preview of the what's new video that will be published tomorrow, though additional changes are upcoming - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iHEopDjzjltW48vqwcsZNRPSDAFhL-1O/view?usp=sharing [11:30] jphilips: oh nice, you got Joe :D [11:30] yep i got Joe [11:30] one of xfce's biggest media fans [11:31] xubuntu too :) [11:32] jphilips: that's really well done. [11:33] of course xubuntu as well [11:34] thanks [11:51] hmm, i'd recommend not using greybird-dark with its regular window borders [11:51] that really looks a bit crappy... [11:52] ochosi: that's just a preview in the wrong spot, while they're going to set them [11:52] > Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been marked as ready [11:53] other than this, awesome sauce! [11:53] oh ok [11:54] i was distracted by the preview screenshot [11:54] nice job jphilips [11:54] ochosi: so are greybird-dark window borders going to be improved, so that you'd recommend it [11:55] thanks [12:14] in what respect improved? [12:15] i only meant: dont mix regular greybird window borders with greybird dark [12:15] but you didn't do that in the video - only the initial thumbnail is misleading [14:53] xubuntu is up there - https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dc7Z5IjXCTijPAPLcJga2vBhjj8wheXOjS8rFz4jNYiV9TCmB9dAQ29Ks3Oi8LhkW0W93vKLJ6D5TkJcsJ7e5rs47BvMxv3r9qXx3yE3xXVau4LA7yGt0jy9r7sRKbw-fO3DPV1_ [14:54] oh wait, wrong green :D [14:54] or maybe i'm mistaken [15:36] Downloaded and installed the Xubuntu Core 0423 ISO on HP p7-1010, AMD64, BIOS. Install went smoothly, currently running well, configuring now. [16:57] This should be definitely taken into account: https://contest.xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/DORIME.png [16:57] LoL [17:39] Unit193: any idea when the 20.04 downloads will appear on the download page [19:52] any eta on when we'll be announcing the release for xubuntu? [20:02] jphilips: will try to do that when I get off work, unless somebody else beats me to it [20:03] bluesabre: never done it before, so wouldnt know what to do, so i guess its in your hands [20:04] i presume you have website access - here is the page with most of the stuff already completed - https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=4804&action=edit [20:04] you may have to made adjustments to the known issues, as i only put in the xfce pulseaudio plugin issue [20:18] jphilips: will do. Should have it in the next hour. I updated the release itself, but I think the download page has to be updated separately. [20:59] Oh jeez, don't copy and paste with Gutenberg [21:04] :) [21:10] Alrighty, got the downloads page ready. Just tidying up the announcement, and then I'll publish everything at once. [21:13] nnnice [21:27] !team | I've updated the site for the 20.04 release. Please let me know if I missed anything. [21:27] I've updated the site for the 20.04 release. Please let me know if I missed anything.: akxwi-dave, bluesabre, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 [21:31] bluesabre: isn't this https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ rather xubuntu.org/download? [21:31] i mean there's a redirect anyway [21:32] Yeah, probably better to use the direct link. [21:33] nice work! [21:33] one would probably expect more xfce 4.14 references [21:33] but i guess it would be a repetition of the 19.10 release notes [21:35] Feel free to update it as you see fit :) I got off work and went straight to publishing the release :D [21:35] But I'm hungryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy [21:35] hehe [21:35] tbh i'm also rather destroyed and should go to bed soon [21:35] too many xfce gitlab and icon nights.. [22:01] \o/ [22:57] ...At some point I should mention in here that I've "released" Xubuntu Core too, seeding torrent and everything.