[01:14] <bluesabre> Unless the next build makes a mess of things, I think the release notes are now ready.
[07:46] -BottyMcBotFace:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 20.04 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[07:48] <ochosi> awesome, thanks bluesabre!
[09:55] <Unit193> jphilips: At some point before you add the bot to #xubuntu, there has to be a discussion as to whether the team wants a telegram bridge, who would have access, mods on the "other side", etc.
[09:58] <jphilips> Unit193: yes understood, though it seems strange that nobody replied to the email thread stating they were against it before actual work began to implement it
[09:58] <Unit193> jphilips: When you initially asked in here, someone said what has to happen.  I was waiting for that discussion.
[09:59] <Unit193> With regards to a trial, that could have been to see if it was worthwhile to seek.  I dunno. :)
[10:00] <jphilips> yes pleia2 mentioned we'd need a sysadmin to manage the bot, which i did mention in my email about the group
[10:00] <Unit193> Personally, I don't see why it makes sense for a support channel, we don't have askubuntu questions being piped into #xubuntu, the mailing list, forums, etc.
[10:04] <jphilips> regarding who would have access, bluesabre, the bot maintainer, and whomever else from the team wishes
[10:22] <bluesabre> I'm personally not opposed to it. If it means more people answering the questions or more contributors in general, it seems like a win.
[10:25] <bluesabre> With how dead silent it can be in here and -offtopic, I'd also be in favor of bridging both of those channels as well.
[10:29] <Unit193> Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of spam in the #kubuntu one, sounds like this is a good thing to discuss at the next meeting.
[10:31] <jphilips> just spoke with someone who searched for our support on telegram and joined the group :D
[10:31] <jphilips> spam from the telegram or irc side on #kubuntu?
[10:34] <bluesabre> #xubuntu-devel.2020-03-31.log:10:54:50 < pleia2> dev.xubuntu.org is an Ubuntu server, if we have at least 2 systems type folks to volunteer to be on call for it, we can discuss setting it up
[10:34] <bluesabre> #xubuntu-devel.2020-03-31.log:10:55:14 < pleia2> but like all of our shared resources for the project, this really has to be a team decision, presented with pros/cons and whatnot
[10:34] <bluesabre> jphilips: do you mind starting a proposal somewhere so we can bring it up in the next meeting? You have buy-in from me, but we need to get the rest of the team in on it with a discussion.
[10:35] <bluesabre> I'm planning to get the next meeting on the calendar for sometime next week.
[10:36] <Unit193> We need to re-staff council too.
[10:36] <bluesabre> Yep.
[10:36] <jphilips> put the proposal in a google doc?
[10:36] <bluesabre> And drop some folks out of team that haven't been seen in 6+ months (more like 18+ months)
[10:36] <bluesabre> jphilips: do you have access to our wiki? (https://wiki.xubuntu.org/)
[10:37] <jphilips> bluesabre: no unless i can login with launchpad
[10:38] <bluesabre> I'll hook you up.
[10:40] <ochosi> just to add my 2cents
[10:40] <ochosi> i'm not sure i'm a huge fan of telegram for this
[10:40] <bluesabre> Funnily, today's the day Windows decided to overtake my bootloader. So now I'm stuck in Redmond land.
[10:41] <ochosi> i mean there are really lots of platforms we could move to
[10:42] <bluesabre> I think it's less about moving to platforms and more extended the number of platforms that can communicate with us.
[10:42] <ochosi> matrix, discord, ...
[10:42] <ochosi> yeah
[10:42] <ochosi> but ultimately we are "suggesting" platforms when bridging them
[10:43] <ochosi> telegram wouldn't be the first that comes to my mind
[10:43] <Unit193> I think I'd highly recommend against Matrix though. :P
[10:43] <ochosi> heh
[10:43] <ochosi> i think it's a topic where everybody has an option ;)
[10:43] <bluesabre> I've been pulled into several Linux-specific telegram groups the last couple of months. There seems to be a current push there.
[10:43] <ochosi> but in any case, i don't really actively hang out in #xubuntu anymore, so i won't oppose any of this
[10:44] <ochosi> you're seemingly more "connected" than me ;)
[10:44] <ochosi> i have only been "pulled" into discord so far
[10:44] <ochosi> and my experience with it has been a little mixed
[10:44] <bluesabre> Not a good thing, I didn't have time for all the work I was already doing :D
[10:45] <ochosi> cool features like posting screenshots (really helps), sucky things like being out of sync sometimes...
[11:03] <jphilips> bluesabre: yep that happened to be alot when i would update windows :D
[11:04] <Unit193> Dual-booting seems more finicky than it used to even.
[11:05] <bluesabre> Yeah, first time happening in quite a long time since using EFI. Considering just paving over Windows on this computer.
[11:05] <bluesabre> Gaming on Linux has gotten to be not bad since Proton appeared.
[11:06] <jphilips> when i used to volunteer with libreoffice 3 years ago, we setup the same telegram bridge and it was quite beneficial, atleast in the dev channels i was part of, as i pushed for it to be setup there
[11:07] <jphilips> you can see the list of bridges that use the bridge which was used there - https://docs.teleirc.com/en/latest/about/who-uses-teleirc/
[11:07] <jphilips> fedora is on the list
[11:10] <bluesabre> Yaru theme development is on Telegram. That's the group I got pulled into. And the Destination Linux community (who  are a chaaaaaaatttttty bunch)
[11:10] <jphilips> yep i went in there as well - DLN
[11:10] <jphilips> also went into ubuntu podcast telegram to get in contact with popey
[11:10] <jphilips> also went into jupiter broadcasting telegram as well
[11:12] <bluesabre> If anybody has a few moments to spare, looks like most of the builds are getting marked as ready. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/412/builds/211153/testcases
[11:12] <bluesabre> We just have a remaining post-install one.
[11:12] <bluesabre> I'm not in my normal virt setup on this side of the hard drive. >.<
[11:23] <jphilips> here is a preview of the what's new video that will be published tomorrow, though additional changes are upcoming - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iHEopDjzjltW48vqwcsZNRPSDAFhL-1O/view?usp=sharing
[11:30] <bluesabre> jphilips: oh nice, you got Joe :D
[11:30] <jphilips> yep i got Joe
[11:30] <jphilips> one of xfce's biggest media fans
[11:31] <bluesabre> xubuntu too :)
[11:32] <bluesabre> jphilips: that's really well done.
[11:33] <jphilips> of course xubuntu as well
[11:34] <jphilips> thanks
[11:51] <ochosi> hmm, i'd recommend not using greybird-dark with its regular window borders
[11:51] <ochosi> that really looks a bit crappy...
[11:52] <bluesabre> ochosi: that's just a preview in the wrong spot, while they're going to set them
[11:52] <bluesabre> > Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal Final] has been marked as ready
[11:53] <ochosi> other than this, awesome sauce!
[11:53] <ochosi> oh ok
[11:54] <ochosi> i was distracted by the preview screenshot
[11:54] <ochosi> nice job jphilips 
[11:54] <jphilips> ochosi: so are greybird-dark window borders going to be improved, so that you'd recommend it
[11:55] <jphilips> thanks
[12:14] <ochosi> in what respect improved?
[12:15] <ochosi> i only meant: dont mix regular greybird window borders with greybird dark
[12:15] <ochosi> but you didn't do that in the video - only the initial thumbnail is misleading
[14:53] <jphilips> xubuntu is up there - https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/dc7Z5IjXCTijPAPLcJga2vBhjj8wheXOjS8rFz4jNYiV9TCmB9dAQ29Ks3Oi8LhkW0W93vKLJ6D5TkJcsJ7e5rs47BvMxv3r9qXx3yE3xXVau4LA7yGt0jy9r7sRKbw-fO3DPV1_
[14:54] <jphilips> oh wait, wrong green :D
[14:54] <jphilips> or maybe i'm mistaken
[15:36] <albinard> Downloaded and installed the Xubuntu Core 0423 ISO on HP p7-1010, AMD64, BIOS.  Install went smoothly, currently running well, configuring now.
[16:57] <LuckyScooby> This should be definitely taken into account: https://contest.xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/DORIME.png
[16:57] <LuckyScooby> LoL
[17:39] <jphilips> Unit193: any idea when the 20.04 downloads will appear on the download page
[19:52] <jphilips> any eta on when we'll be announcing the release for xubuntu?
[20:02] <bluesabre> jphilips: will try to do that when I get off work, unless somebody else beats me to it
[20:03] <jphilips> bluesabre: never done it before, so wouldnt know what to do, so i guess its in your hands
[20:04] <jphilips> i presume you have website access - here is the page with most of the stuff already completed - https://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/post.php?post=4804&action=edit
[20:04] <jphilips> you may have to made adjustments to the known issues, as i only put in the xfce pulseaudio plugin issue
[20:18] <bluesabre> jphilips: will do. Should have it in the next hour. I updated the release itself, but I think the download page has to be updated separately.
[20:59] <bluesabre> Oh jeez, don't copy and paste with Gutenberg
[21:04] <ochosi> :)
[21:10] <bluesabre> Alrighty, got the downloads page ready. Just tidying up the announcement, and then I'll publish everything at once.
[21:13] <ochosi> nnnice
[21:27] <bluesabre> !team | I've updated the site for the 20.04 release. Please let me know if I missed anything.
[21:31] <ochosi> bluesabre: isn't this https://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ rather xubuntu.org/download?
[21:31] <ochosi> i mean there's a redirect anyway
[21:32] <bluesabre> Yeah, probably better to use the direct link.
[21:33] <ochosi> nice work!
[21:33] <ochosi> one would probably expect more xfce 4.14 references
[21:33] <ochosi> but i guess it would be a repetition of the 19.10 release notes
[21:35] <bluesabre> Feel free to update it as you see fit :) I got off work and went straight to publishing the release :D
[21:35] <bluesabre> But I'm hungryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[21:35] <ochosi> hehe
[21:35] <ochosi> tbh i'm also rather destroyed and should go to bed soon
[21:35] <ochosi> too many xfce gitlab and icon nights..
[22:01] <Unit193> \o/
[22:57] <Unit193> ...At some point I should mention in here that I've "released" Xubuntu Core too, seeding torrent and everything.