[01:54] [telegram] We aren't an official flavor. [01:54] [telegram] We are basically training for it [01:54] [telegram] I'm the lead. Thank you for showing love ❤️ [01:54] [telegram] @KajiiNarumiChat [01:55] [telegram] But hey, I work with people from the mainstream [01:55] [telegram] So we aren't part of the flavors, but we are part of the family [01:55] [telegram] 😃😃😃 (re @ItzSwirlz: I'm the lead. Thank you for showing love ❤️) [01:55] [telegram] Anyone know whos the guy to talk to about theming design via IRC? [01:57] [telegram] That reminds me to actually get the wallpapers in other than the official colors of UL with the fossa [01:58] [telegram] I tried Cinnamon on Linux mint, but I didn't like Linux mint, although I liked Cinnamon. (re @ItzSwirlz: So we aren't part of the flavors, but we are part of the family) [01:58] [telegram] I see what you mean (re @KajiiNarumiChat: I tried Cinnamon on Linux mint, but I didn't like Linux mint, although I liked Cinnamon.) [01:58] [telegram] That's where the LM Vs UC difference is. Linux Mint comes with lots of their own maintained software installed [01:59] [telegram] We rely more on GNOME software [02:02] [telegram] Yes, yes ... I like that the flavors in Ubuntu are different, Ubuntu Gnome is not equal to Fedora Gnome, Xubuntu is not equal to Manjaro, and Ubuntu Cinnamon remix is not equal to Linux mint. (re @ItzSwirlz: We rely more on GNOME software) [02:05] [telegram] At work Ubuntu Studio is super functional for me. At home I have Ubuntu. And in this new lts I thought it would be official Cinnamon, even so I want to leave it as the only distro on my pc [02:06] [telegram] please retweet all flavor release tweets [02:06] [telegram] https://twitter.com/ubuntu_mate/status/1253382564221464578 [02:06] [telegram] https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1253382547171663881 [02:06] [telegram] Sorry, I don't speak English, it's difficult for me to translate (re @ItzSwirlz: We rely more on GNOME software) [02:06] [telegram] https://twitter.com/ubuntustudio/status/1253378716362629120 [02:06] [telegram] I did some [02:06] [telegram] https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/1253378475295232003 [02:07] [telegram] Any that @UbuntuCinnamon missed? [02:07] [telegram] https://twitter.com/Ubuntu_Kylin/status/1253377716801302534 [02:07] [telegram] https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1253331338456776704 [02:07] [telegram] (waits) [02:07] [telegram] https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1253492395448193026 [02:07] [telegram] (waits again) [02:07] [telegram] aaandd? [02:07] [telegram] @philipz https://twitter.com/UbuntuCinnamon/status/1253294147844308992 [02:07] [telegram] thanks was just about to do it :D [02:08] [telegram] xD [02:08] [telegram] You're the best [02:08] [telegram] 😍😍😍😍 [02:08] [telegram] omg i have an idea [02:08] [telegram] no need to retwet all at once, you can space them out :D [02:08] [telegram] xd (re @philipz: no need to retwet all at once, you can space them out :D) [02:09] [telegram] I did all 9, waiting for UbuntuDDE [02:09] [telegram] and the last one https://twitter.com/UbuntuBudgie/status/1253365222825512963 [02:09] [telegram] Oh god [02:09] [telegram] thx [02:10] lubuntu, no image in your tweet? [02:10] that gets more attention.... [02:10] [telegram] was a blog post (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] that gets more attention....) [02:10] [telegram] none for xubuntu as well :D [02:10] tomorrow is another day! [02:11] add images before tweeting if you want attention [02:11] thanks @philipz [02:11] all rt'd [02:12] [telegram] Luckily I know marketing tactics with art! [02:12] [telegram] any time valorie [02:12] sometimes it's hard to come up with something for my genealogy society, but I try to add *something* [02:13] [telegram] was thinking that us flavors should likely do a survey similar to the one ubuntu did - https://twitter.com/rhys_the_davies/status/1253244019267768320 [02:13] all-test tweets get far fewer likes or rt's [02:14] [telegram] Ubuntu Cinnamon 20.04 is stable version? (re @ItzSwirlz: That's where the LM Vs UC difference is. Linux Mint comes with lots of their own maintained software installed) [02:14] [telegram] @philipz Would you count remixes too? Or leave it to the 7 official flavors. [02:14] [telegram] yes [02:14] [telegram] yes (re @KajiiNarumiChat: Ubuntu Cinnamon 20.04 is stable version?) [02:14] [telegram] did it for him (re @KaiLoveLinux: @philipz Would you count remixes too? Or leave it to the 7 official flavors.) [02:14] [telegram] for the only avail one [02:14] sounds like a good survey [02:15] otoh we basically give people all KDE software [02:15] so unsure how much it would guide us [02:15] [telegram] each individual flavor would likely do their own survey, as they would likely have unique questions that they'd want to ask their users [02:16] [telegram] but we could all coordinate doing it together to give as much PR as possible to them [02:16] [telegram] I plan to write the "pre-release" survey for Ubuntu Lumina, so I can see what people know, where I need to focus, and other things. [02:17] [telegram] which survey platform were you thinking to use @KaiLoveLinux [02:17] [telegram] 👍 (re @ItzSwirlz: yes) [02:17] [telegram] Google Forums as I am not fond of others that I have tried, others would be an option I'd take if recommended to me. (re @philipz: which survey platform were you thinking to use @KaiLoveLinux) [02:18] [telegram] valorie: know any good survey platforms? [02:18] survey monkey? [02:18] [telegram] has kubuntu used them before? [02:19] or you can go all-text and do ranked-choice voting [02:19] not that I know of [02:19] KDE uses them sometimes though [02:20] [telegram] well lets all checkout possibilities and return with our findings some time soon. i know we all need a break now that the release is out the door :D [02:21] [telegram] XD [02:21] [telegram] [02:22] [telegram] from ubuntu's survey https://admin.insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/7559/flavour.png [02:22] [telegram] it is wide and tank-like (re @ItzSwirlz: XD) [02:22] [telegram] there was a request for flavors (re @philipz: from ubuntu's survey https://admin.insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/7559/flavour.png) [02:22] [telegram] got people to say "Cinnamon" [02:22] [telegram] (cough) [02:22] [telegram] nvm [02:23] [telegram] the numbers seem exactly what i'd expect [02:25] [telegram] this one was a bit odd for me as xubuntu was higher than kubuntu https://admin.insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/b020/whatisyourprime.png [02:26] I never heard about this survey [02:26] tsk tsk to popey [02:26] maybe xubuntu tweeted it out and kubuntu didn't, or something [02:27] really hard to get a representative sample for linux community surveys [02:28] you can do everything right and then someone posts a link on some advocacy subreddit and throws everything off [02:29] yep [02:29] kubuntu isn't all I do, so I miss some stuff [02:30] I also never heard about the survey. Probably why Studio never tweeted it out. [02:31] [telegram] The snaps result is quite interesting "Our sentiment analysis revealed something quite interesting with snaps. There was an almost even split between negative, neutral and positive comments at 30.1%, 33.5% and 36.3%, respectively." [02:32] thank goodness for the -flavors chan [02:32] so we can all more easily stay informed [02:35] [telegram] i think my thick skull is giving in.😇 may I please discuss my difficulty here, before committing my self to launching a bug? (re @philipz: bugs should be reported on launchpad, but can be discussed here to know if others are aware of an already existing bug) [02:35] [telegram] [02:35] [telegram] :D (re @KajiiNarumiChat: ) [02:35] [telegram] Be careful with partitioning [02:35] [telegram] do you have already good existing partitions setup? [02:36] [telegram] /home & / (re @ItzSwirlz: do you have already good existing partitions setup?) [02:36] @first_sheemon of course [02:36] [telegram] gr8 [02:36] [telegram] got a good efi? [02:36] [telegram] only legacity [02:37] [telegram] no windows in my pc 😎 [02:37] [telegram] yes of course (re @first_sheemon: i think my thick skull is giving in.😇 may I please discuss my difficulty here, before committing my self to launching a bug?) [02:38] [telegram] (re @ItzSwirlz: got a good efi?) [02:38] [telegram] okay you should be fine [02:39] [telegram] 😳😳😳 the seed is stop... (re @ItzSwirlz: :D) [02:39] [telegram] ah great, it was a torrent? oof (re @KajiiNarumiChat: 😳😳😳 the seed is stop...) [02:39] [telegram] i know someone else was hosting it for me [02:39] [telegram] 0kB/s download : [02:40] [telegram] Thanx. [02:45] [telegram] oh [02:45] [telegram] dear lord [02:50] [telegram] maybe grab the torrent file instead [02:51] [telegram] xD : [02:52] [telegram] sadly couldnt get the fossa as a png and get it converted well but i tried [02:52] [telegram] why not [02:52] [telegram] wasn't it an svg, so it should be easy to convert it [02:52] [telegram] So btw guys you can also change your gdm3 colors [02:53] [telegram] there is a css stylesheet of some sort or something [02:53] [telegram] so i will do that stuff tomorrow [02:53] [telegram] quality though (re @philipz: why not) [02:53] [telegram] gimp isnt best with svg [02:53] [telegram] but i do plan on making more ubuntu emojis [02:53] [telegram] also glad i fixed ubuntuthinking : [02:54] [telegram] [02:55] [telegram] everyone send me ur fav emojis and ill ubuntu them [03:01] [telegram] seems fine when i've done it (re @ItzSwirlz: gimp isnt best with svg) [03:01] [telegram] Hm [03:01] [telegram] anyways is there a tool to change color of theme [03:01] [telegram] E.g yaru theme [03:01] [telegram] To show a preferred hex [03:01] [telegram] Like a good theme builder [03:01] [telegram] 🥴- Best emoki [03:01] [telegram] 🥴- Best emoji (edited) [08:10] [telegram] (re @ItzSwirlz: everyone send me ur fav emojis and ill ubuntu them) [08:10] [telegram] 🐺 (re @ItzSwirlz: ) [10:57] [telegram] joint flavor survey working doc - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oAQ7UdimjPz_WDP87VkXI6Nrs22lROy6i4Ll7XnoN9E/edit# [12:24] [telegram] https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/g766in/kubuntu_2004_lts_with_a_bit_of_buntu_branding_on/ [12:29] [telegram] What is used as a SoftwareCenter replacement these days? [12:29] [telegram] i use synaptic :D [12:29] [telegram] I'm on UbuntuMATE... there is sofware boutique, but that installs stuff via snaps which I don't want to. [12:38] [telegram] There is gnome-software and ubuntu-software [12:38] [telegram] I wonder :) [12:50] [telegram] so I had software-boutique installed [12:50] [telegram] but it was not visible in menus [12:50] [telegram] typing software-boutique in terminal yielded 'you do not have ubuntu-mate-welcome snap installed' [12:50] [telegram] @wimpress why is ubuntu-mate-welcome needed for software-boutique? [12:54] [telegram] I actually meant - is this by-design or is it a bug? :D [13:12] [telegram] I’ll tweeting (re @philipz: joint flavor survey working doc - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oAQ7UdimjPz_WDP87VkXI6Nrs22lROy6i4Ll7XnoN9E/edit#) [13:14] [telegram] Groovy. Gorilla [13:14] [telegram] ok then [13:18] [telegram] Actually is cinnamon remix allowed to join (re @philipz: joint flavor survey working doc - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oAQ7UdimjPz_WDP87VkXI6Nrs22lROy6i4Ll7XnoN9E/edit#) [13:24] [telegram] from what i understand, the boutique is part of welcome, so that would be why (re @MrkiMike: I actually meant - is this by-design or is it a bug? :D) [13:25] [telegram] i wouldn't mind but it maybe a decision that canonical/ubuntu would have to make (re @ItzSwirlz: Actually is cinnamon remix allowed to join) [13:25] [telegram] True [14:09] [telegram] xubuntu has released its what's new video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a_uVSNnIGY [15:01] [telegram] alright. meta updated to 0.2 for groovy, gpg key is currently publishing to lp [15:51] [telegram] Ubuntu 20.10 Groovy Gorilla Release Schedule has been posted: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-schedule/15531 [15:52] [telegram] Apr 30: Toolchain Updated [15:52] [telegram] July 02: Ubuntu Testing Week [15:52] [telegram] August 27: Feature Freeze, Debian Import Freeze [15:52] [telegram] Sept 03: Ubuntu Testing Week [15:52] [telegram] Sept 17: UI Freeze [15:52] [telegram] Sep 24: Doc String Freeze [15:52] [telegram] Oct 01: Beta [15:52] [telegram] Oct 08: Kernel, Non-lang pack trans deadline [15:52] [telegram] Oct 15: Final, RC, LP Trans deadline [15:53] [telegram] Oct 22: Rel [16:29] [telegram] So with Ubuntu’s icon theme when an error occurs and the report a problem opens, with UC’s icon theme it shows Numix icon. What file would that be [16:29] [telegram] Does anyone know [17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added [17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot armhf [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added [17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot ppc64el [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added [17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot arm64 [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added [17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot s390x [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added [17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Netboot i386 [Groovy Daily] (20101020ubuntu614) has been added [18:30] [telegram] Where is there not many seeders?Or is my computer just not connecting to all the trackers? : [18:51] [telegram] or perhaps you're behind NAT so nobody can connect to you 😜 [18:55] [telegram] which client you using? (re @troyBORG: ) [18:56] [telegram] qBittorrent Enhanced (re @philipz: which client you using?) [18:58] [telegram] is there an enhanced version of qbittorrent as i havent heard about it [19:04] [telegram] [19:04] [telegram] [19:06] [telegram] Yeah it looks like my Pfsense was blocking stuff going to the BT client.. : [19:09] [telegram] Lots of the trackers just say "Not contacted yet". : [19:16] [telegram] (re @philipz: is there an enhanced version of qbittorrent as i havent heard about it)Got it from the AUR.... : [19:29] [irc] test [19:29] [telegram] uh, fail [19:30] lets try that again [19:39] [telegram] this one still works? [19:39] yes [19:43] test [19:44] uh [19:44] ok? [19:44] Test [19:44] Hmm still not orking [19:44] [telegram] ugh [19:44] [telegram] thanks [19:44] cd .. [19:44] pfft great job [19:44] ja [19:44] @popey still can't join [19:48] [telegram] On 20.04 Ubuntu when you r not on the main keyboard language SUPER key don't work [21:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Kubuntu i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Lubuntu i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Kubuntu amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu GNOME amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu MATE amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu MATE i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu Server i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu Studio i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Lubuntu amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu Server amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade UbuntuKylin amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Xubuntu amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu GNOME i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Xubuntu i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade Ubuntu Studio amd64 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [21:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Upgrade UbuntuKylin i386 [Groovy Daily] (20200424) has been added [22:19] [telegram] Ubuntu Cinnamon has had their first patreon donation [22:22] nice! [22:22] and we're off to the groovy gorilla races, friends [22:22] [telegram] congrats [22:23] [telegram] it feels so weird like [22:23] [telegram] typing "groovy" as a distribution [22:26] it will be awhile before the old Simon & Garfunkel song stops playing in my head [22:26] :-) [22:52] [telegram] did you use Focal Fossa_white_RGB.svg from http://people.ubuntu.com/~flexiondotorg/Focal_Fossa_Wallpapers.tar.xz (re @ItzSwirlz: ) [22:52] [telegram] Yes [22:52] [telegram] when you imported it into gimp, did you import it at a higher resolution? [23:22] [telegram] i Y'll [23:22] [telegram] Can someone help me define this little irritation? [23:22] [telegram] On the Dell Inspiron 13-7535 (any similar touchpad?), ignoring the touchscreen for a moment, [23:22] [telegram] the mouse cursor seems to get "stuck". What seems to de-stick it is a sharp rap on the keypad with a finger. However, I think I may have managed to improve on this fuzzyness. [23:22] [telegram] When a switch is clicked on a screen button, the cursor refuses to move afterwards. [23:22] [telegram] A rap event restores normal operation. [23:22]