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sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: yep classic issue, it's called a broken package manager00:00
RawrUpgradeHeh ;300:00
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: usually a bit or more of a pain when that happens, but can be fixed00:00
RawrUpgradeAny existing help docs on stackexchange?00:00
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: sometimes happens on a big upgrade did 99% of things but  not the very last things00:00
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: try the command it suggests that's the first thing to do00:01
SJudgesebsebseb: If I recall from Ubuntu Desktop you can set a CD Image as a software source, I just don't know how to do the same for Server00:01
sebsebsebSJudge: maybe you can point to packages on a ISO, but that's more a thing of the past I think if so, but I could be wrong00:01
RawrUpgradeThe thing that was unsettling was the lack of advice after the window closed.. like.. it just CLOSED.. no "try visiting this page for help" or access to an error log, nothing.00:01
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: yep thats what can happen00:02
RawrUpgradeSo I was left with a feeling of "uhh... that's not good.. afraid to reboot."00:02
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: if you re boot will probably be mostly ok, but  may as well try and fix it first I guess00:02
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: run the command it suggests00:02
RawrUpgradeI just now found this thread. Does it look kosher to use for advice? https://askubuntu.com/questions/457095/the-upgrade-has-aborted-your-system-could-be-in-an-unusable-state00:02
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: askubuntu is usaully a good source for advice yes00:03
RawrUpgradesebsebseb: It didn't suggest any command, just closed the window and went back to desktop.00:03
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: uh you gave a dpkg thing earlier i think00:04
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: the fix install thing ?00:04
sebsebsebthat's the command it's suggesting00:04
sebsebsebto run00:04
whitekidneyHow long does it usually take before I can upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04? A few days?00:04
RawrUpgradesebsebseb: Yes, but it didn't tell me "run this." It said "it will run now" so I assume that already ran.00:04
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: you could try that yourself00:04
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: you could even try the upgrade command again to see what happens yourself00:04
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sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: it should just have a few packages to still do00:05
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: assuming it donwloaded lilke everything and installed pretty much everything00:05
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: also a re boot either way would probably be mostly ok except yep a broken package manager untill fixed00:05
* sebsebseb thinks broken package managers are are annoying, espeically when trying to do something with someone and try and make her reolise Linux is great and then bang issues with that, but that was months ago now00:06
* sebsebseb is annoyed that she won't just install updates too herself since scared of it going wrong or whatever00:06
RawrUpgradeAhh, okay interesting... I ran `$ sudo dpkg --configure -a`00:07
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: yes did that help00:07
RawrUpgradeApparently this has to do with `piper`. During the upgrade process, it mentioned it wasn't able to update `piper` and might be left in an unusuable state. Typing the dkpg command ran about 20 lines of stuff, erroring out in the end.00:08
RawrUpgrade```Setting up piper (0.4-1) ...E: py3compile:183: cannot create directory /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/piper/__pycache__: FileNotFoundError(2, 'No such file or directory')Traceback (most recent call last):  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/py_compile.py", line 197, in main    compile(filename, doraise=True)  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/py_compile.py", line00:09
RawrUpgrade142, in compile    source_bytes = loader.get_data(file)  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 972, in get_dataFileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/piper/application.py'During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:Traceback (most recent call last):  File00:09
RawrUpgrade"/usr/lib/python3.8/runpy.py", line 193, in _run_module_as_main    return _run_code(code, main_globals, None,  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/runpy.py", line 86, in _run_code    exec(code, run_globals)  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/py_compile.py", line 218, in <module>    sys.exit(main())  File "/usr/lib/python3.8/py_compile.py", line 204, in main    if00:09
RawrUpgradequiet < 2:NameError: name 'quiet' is not defineddpkg: error processing package piper (--configure): installed piper package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1Errors were encountered while processing: piper```00:09
sebsebseb!pastebin00:09
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:09
RawrUpgradeDarn, not formatted very well as I had hoped.00:09
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: you shouold pastebin00:09
sarnoldheh, if it had come through with good formatting, probably one of the bots would have quieted you for a while00:10
RawrUpgradehttps://pastebin.com/0LibZyj500:10
sebsebsebsarnold: yep that's what I was thinking to00:10
sebsebseba bot might quiet00:10
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: usaully it's just one package that messes up the package manager and bang00:10
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: not sure what the piper package is but ok00:11
RawrUpgradeAhh! It's the open source(sorry, RMS) alternative to Logitech's GHUB mouse/device controller software.00:12
RawrUpgradePiper, I mean.00:12
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: where you get that from ?00:12
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: is it a ppa ?00:12
RawrUpgradehttps://github.com/libratbag/piper/wiki/Installation00:13
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: ppa's don't get upgraded on upgrades00:13
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: I guess stuff installed from source will usually be left alone too00:13
RawrUpgradeHmmm.. "For Ubuntu version older than this (20.04) you can use this PPA." So yes.00:13
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: maybe just run the upgrade command again to see  what happens or doesn't happen00:13
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: your ppa won't be upgraded with the oher packages though00:14
sebsebsebwhen doing a  upgrade to 20.0400:14
RawrUpgradeInteresting, `sudo apt update` is pulling from focal, so something obviously got upgraded.00:14
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: you can also test intalling some random package or something00:14
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: yes it's probably not as broken as it first looked00:15
RawrUpgradeAhhhh! Interesting! `libc++1/focal 1:10.0-50~exp1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:9.0-49~exp1]` is available for upgrade. Let's see what that does.00:15
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: so re booting should be ok soon enough too00:15
RawrUpgradeIt failed. I'mma just uninstall piper, remove the PPA (since it looks like I'm 20.04) and use the current `apt install piper` command and see what happens.00:16
Jordan_Usebsebseb: I just quickly skimmed the backlog. Did you have RawrUpgrade run "sudo apt full-upgrade" and confirm that nothing else is pending to be upgraded?00:16
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: you need to re boot to properly be on it though with the kernel and all that00:16
sebsebsebJordan_U: nope00:17
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: yep try what Jordan_U put00:17
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RawrUpgradeJordan_U: There was one more pending upgrade, unrelated. Nautilus.00:17
Jordan_URawrUpgrade: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt full-upgrade".00:17
RawrUpgradehttps://pastebin.com/vv8crAzH00:18
RawrUpgrade*coughs* I already said yes, btw. Looks like it ran alright with no problems.00:19
Jordan_URawrUpgrade: The following packages have been kept back: libc++100:20
Jordan_URawrUpgrade: That could be a bad sign.00:20
RawrUpgradeAnd, looks like the 20.04 piper installed just fine.00:21
RawrUpgradeOh? c++?00:21
Jordan_URawrUpgrade: When the full-upgrade is finished please pastebin the output of "sudo apt install libc++1" I'm hoping that it will tell us what would be required to upgrade the package, why it's being held back. Note, it might say something like "OK, I'll just remove half your system and then we can upgrade this package!" so don't just accept what it offers to do without careful consideration.00:22
RawrUpgradeRight, one sec.00:22
sebsebsebRawrUpgrade: Jordan_U right leaving here bye good luck with issue00:23
RawrUpgradehttps://pastebin.com/3vby80vb00:23
RawrUpgradePlus I'm thinking I should do an `autoremove` too00:24
RawrUpgradeThere, much better. https://pastebin.com/us4c5Lai00:28
RawrUpgradeThere! One sec.00:30
RawrUpgradeNice! All clean, no kept back packages.00:30
RawrUpgradeDo I dare reboot...00:31
RawrUpgradeOr...00:32
RawrUpgradeLet's make sure first..00:32
RawrUpgradeALRIGHT! "The computer needs to restart to finish installing updates." So! ... Looks like everything might be in order. Thank you so much. Hopefully this works.00:34
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pringlescan_Hello. I'm having issues with Ubuntu 20.04. It appears that navi12 AMD firmware (for RX-5700) isn't included in the release.00:35
pringlescan_It's odd because the installer warns of possibly missing firmware (navi12), but I see no reference to 12 here: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/log/00:37
sarnoldheh, youi're quick, I was digging up the url for the linux-firmware repo, to suggest looking for it there :)00:38
pringlescan_full disclosure, I've wasted a few days trying to get linux installed on an AMD cpu/gpu machine. I have never had so many issues. I have a RX-5700 but I have it flashes to an RX-5700XT. This is a very common practice, however, I'm wondering if it's screwing up the hardware detection process and somehow choosing either *no* firmware or an incompatible one.00:40
pringlescan_I saw lots of reports of issues with this and nobody solved it, however, nobody mentioned whether they also "flashed up" their cards00:41
=== westor{off} is now known as westor
pringlescan_I suppose for science, I will try to flash back to the latest version of the bios for my actual card and see if I can install Ubuntu. If so, it'd be nice to fix this so everyone isn't pulling their hair out.00:41
fizzikMy bluetooth headset is connected but not showing up in sound settings. Anyone assist? Ubuntu 20.0400:49
davrosanyone know off hand if you can use an apple magic trackpad with ubuntu00:49
Eickmeyerdavros: No experience here, but it looks like it's possible: https://askubuntu.com/questions/807940/how-to-enable-multi-touch-gestured-with-apple-magic-trackpad-on-ubuntu-16-0401:03
davrosok thats encouraging01:03
pringlescan_:( It doens't appear that "upflashing" had anything to do with it. I may have missed it, but, I didn't see anything about "possibly missing firmware"01:03
woenxHi. I just upgraded from ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04. Fresh install. One question. I have a couple bluetooth devices that I use both in Ubuntu and windows01:05
woenxI remember I copied the bluetooth key from the windows partition to linux01:05
woenxhowever, the tutorials I find require to first pair the device in linux, then in windows, and copy the new key back to linux01:05
woenxis there an easier way?01:05
Eickmeyerwoenx: In my experience, no. That is typically the only way to do it. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.01:06
woenxEickmeyer: Thanks. Don't worry. It's mostly lazyness at this point :)01:07
Eickmeyerwoenx: It's precisely why I haven't done it yet with my newest device. :P01:07
woenxsome bluetooth mice are multi-device, right? they can be paired with more than one device at the same time01:07
Eickmeyerwoenx: Yes, but usually those have a physical switch.01:08
woenxah01:08
woenxanyway, it's 10 minutes. But I hate having to restart, browse the registry, etc...01:09
woenxif there was a script to do that...01:09
kinghatanyone know of a writer that can make a win 10 bootable usb from ubuntu?01:12
kinghatwoe-usb doesnt work01:12
kinghatetcher says it wont work01:12
woenxMmmm01:12
woenxare you sure woe-usb doesn't work? I think I used it in the past01:13
oerheksfastest is on a windows machine01:13
oerheksjust copy the iso to usb, done01:13
kinghati get failing errors using fat32 or ntfs option01:14
Eickmeyerkinghat: Wait... you're trying to put Windows 10 on a USB drive?01:14
kinghatoerheks: thats chicken/egg thing01:14
oerheksfat32 you need.. but this is not an ubuntu issue01:14
oerheksEickmeyer, that can be done..01:14
kinghatEickmeyer: not just put it on there. make it bootable as well.01:14
Eickmeyerkinghat: It might be possible, but this is the wrong channel to ask about it.01:15
EickmeyerTry ##windows01:15
oerhekswoeusb is your friend, else a windows machine01:15
woenxin ##windows they'll say the same thing, xD01:15
sarnoldwild guess, try installing windows in libvirt, passthrough the usb stick, run rufus on it? :)01:15
sarnoldor, try installing windows in libvirt, and then realize that you're done01:15
woenxwhat is libvirt?01:16
oerhekslibvirt/kvm01:16
kinghatya i thought about trying to make it on my windows VM but im trying to get the ISO to install to disk because the VM is slow as it is.01:16
oerheksreally?01:16
sarnoldhmm, how much memory do you have? how much memory did you get the vm?01:17
kinghati gave the vm 4gb and 4 cores01:17
kinghathmm maybe 2 cores01:17
kinghatya 4 cores01:17
kinghatid have to pass through the iso as well01:18
sarnoldor scp it in01:22
electricityZZZZhey sarnold ;)01:22
sarnoldhello electricityZZZZ01:22
electricityZZZZtrying to do an install of ubuntu 20.04 onto an encrypted ZFS root partition01:23
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electricityZZZZfrom scratch, i'm fine with wiping the drive01:23
sarnoldoh sweet01:23
electricityZZZZi already tried to do that and failed,..01:23
electricityZZZZi followed some guide which involved editing what i think was a ubiquity installer script but i ended up with an unencrypted ext4 partition01:23
electricityZZZZand so now i am trying again,... anyway, anybody got a clue on this one?01:24
woenxBtw, it's still not possible to login using fingerprint, without then having to enter the password to unlock the keyring, right?01:24
badbodhunlikely. the purpose was to have fingerprint as an additional security, not a replacement for password.01:26
woenxthen it's useless01:28
woenxin windows, you just place your finger on the reader, and you don't have to use passwords01:28
woenxhere, if you are automatically asked for a password after using the fingerprint reader... what's the purpose?01:28
sarnoldwoenx: check out the nullok option in pam_unix(8)01:29
woenxaha01:29
woenxthanks01:29
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woenxAnd I see that thunderbird is still unable to login to hotmail accounts using a password...01:33
sarnoldat least gmail requires you to create a service password of some sort and enable unsafe logins; does hotmail have something similar?01:34
badbodhdon't need to create password for thunderbird. it uses an authentication token of some sort for gmail01:35
woenxyes, for gmail works perfectly01:36
woenxfor hotmail you have to login to your account on the web, go to account options01:36
woenxsearch for some obscure security option to generate a temporary password01:36
woenxand then authorise that password for thunderbird01:37
woenx(hotmail/outlook/windows mail, etc.)01:37
woenxSuper user friendly :)01:38
Napk1nhey a crontab is suppose to run the first time the moment you save it?01:43
badbodhweird, thunderbird has oauth2 support yet outlook doesn't support it. or maybe the config is wrong...01:43
Napk1nfor the first time*01:44
Jordan_UNapk1n: Not unless you happen to save it just before the moment it's supposed to be triggered, no. What are you trying to do and what problem are you having?01:45
Napk1nso I want a script to run every 6 hours everyday01:46
Napk1nI set it up as 0 6 * * * command01:46
Napk1nis that right?01:46
sarnoldNapk1n: the usual mistakes are (a) relying upon your shell's current PATH rather than the much smaller PATH that cron uses by default (b) forgetting to set a called script executable (c) relying upon current working directory from the shell rather than the / cwd that cron probably uses..01:47
sarnoldNapk1n: check the mail spools on the system, or the user's mail account if the machine can send email elsewhere, cron likes to email errors rather than logging them01:47
Jordan_UNapk1n: That says to run command every day at 6AM.01:48
Napk1noh I guess i misunderstood the guide01:49
Jordan_UNapk1n: https://crontab.guru/every-6-hours01:49
Napk1noh okay, thanks dude01:50
sarnoldoh that's cool :)01:50
Jordan_UNapk1n: You're welcome.01:50
Napk1nso would that start right away or would it start at 12 am?01:50
Jordan_UNapk1n: It would start at time 12AM.01:51
woenxMmm, thunderbird also has trouble logging to corporate gmail accounts01:51
sarnoldif that's the next hour that is divisible by six, yeah01:52
Napk1nyea server is EST shouldve clarified that01:52
Napk1nokay thank you01:52
Jordan_UNapk1n: Crontab doesn't care when you created the file. For something like "every 6 hours", hour 0 is 0:00AM .01:53
daxcurrent thunderbird should work with corporate google accounts, it supports oauth01:54
daxi guess it wouldn't if your admin has disabled IMAP01:54
Napk1nJordan_U I see01:54
daxbut the default gsuit config enables it01:54
Jordan_UNapk1n: To give another illustrative example, if you set something to run every 10 hours (which a 24 hour day isn't divisible by) then it would fire off at 0:00 AM, 10 AM and 8:00 PM, and then the next day at 0:00 AM again. crontab doesn't care that 8:00 PM to 0:00 AM is less than 10 hours, and again, when it gets triggered has no relation to when you wrote it.01:57
woenxOk, if anyone tries to configure a corporate/university gmail account in thunderbird, follow these steps: https://oit.colorado.edu/tutorial/gmail-configure-thunderbird01:58
daxlooks about right. there's a good chance it'll autodetect most of that too, it does at my work01:59
Napk1nyea that makes sense, more accurate schedules02:00
woenxin the new network manager, there isn't an option to connect automatically to VPN when connecting to wifi. In order to do that, you have to use the old editor by typing: nm-connection-editor02:12
sarnoldelectricityZZZZ: did youget any errors on the other vts? dmesg? logs? journalctl -f while running?02:14
electricityZZZZjournalctl -f while running what?02:15
sarnoldthe installer :)02:15
sarnoldbefore getting to the zpool create bit02:16
electricityZZZZi don't know when the installer tries to do that02:16
electricityZZZZfor other people in #ubuntu to follow along, this was the guide i was using: https://linsomniac.gitlab.io/post/2020-04-09-ubuntu-2004-encrypted-zfs/02:16
sarnoldI've only run the server installer so far (which doesn't offer zfs yet :( ) -- but it had a very clear point at which it was going to throw away all the data on the disk02:17
electricityZZZZhttps://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=2020&image=ubuntu_2004_zfs1_lrg after this screen?02:18
sarnoldyeah --- before clicking "ok", head to another console, journalctl -f , maybe tail -F /var/log/installer/*   (I think it logs there)02:18
electricityZZZZso i guess you are asking, after i click Install Now ?02:18
sarnoldjust so long as it happens before it starts writing to the disks -- the trouble of course is they might scroll by pretty quick02:19
electricityZZZZjournalctl -f looks boring to me but i am far far far from an expert02:20
electricityZZZZgnome is complaining about some junk but it doesn't look significant02:20
sarnoldheh, yeah, that's gnome, they log a lot of stuff that looks like fatal error kinds of things but somehow it never seems to matter, and it never seems to get cleaned up..02:21
HaxxaShould I upgrade all my servers to Ubuntu 20.04 without testing anything?02:21
sarnoldHaxxa: do you like filing bug reports or do you just want things to work?02:21
electricityZZZZright so if i click install now, it tells me that it's going to set partition #1 as ESP and partition #2 as ext402:22
Haxxasarnold everything should work perfectly, I have zero tolerance02:22
sarnoldelectricityZZZZ: :(02:22
electricityZZZZeven though i clicked to use ZFS02:22
electricityZZZZi'm getting a bunch of Home directory not accessible messages but i don't think that matters02:22
sarnoldHaxxa: I suggest you wait a few weeks, perhaps even months02:22
electricityZZZZoh hey what do you know02:22
electricityZZZZsyntax error02:22
electricityZZZZit wants a }02:22
sarnoldelectricityZZZZ: woo02:22
electricityZZZZin zsys-setup02:22
electricityZZZZgood job, i'll take a look, maybe i made a typo,... pretty sure not tho02:23
sarnoldit's possible the guide here was just a bit wrong too02:23
sarnoldit looked right in sprit but perhaps not right in details :)02:23
electricityZZZZso yeah uh, lets just say that your password cant contain certain characters.02:25
sarnoldheh, it probably has to abide by standard shell quoting conventions..02:26
sarnoldit's easier to generate something with just the a-zA-Z0-9 kind of range anyway, at the length you need for the security level you want02:27
sarnoldit'll mean a ton of typing of course..02:27
electricityZZZZi use use the names of the last 3 distinct people i spoke to on irc as my password always02:27
electricityZZZZlol jk ;)02:28
electricityZZZZso uh, no error yet but it sure is taking a while after zfs was selected with no declaration of anything02:28
sarnoldelectricityZZZZ: lol02:29
electricityZZZZlots of z's in the log scrolling by, so that must be a good thing02:30
sarnoldlets hope so :)02:30
sarnoldmy guess, without actually knowing how it is working, is that it might be writing garbage to the whole disk, in preperation to encrypted datasets ontop02:31
sarnoldthe luks crypto thingy gives you the choice if you want to write garbage first or not, since it can take a while..02:31
electricityZZZZthe "taking a while" thing was actually some kind of weird window focus issue, it looked like the window was busy/frozen but it was just lacking focus02:32
sarnold:(02:32
electricityZZZZi had to go to focus and click install and everything was fine, it's moving at a reasonable pace02:32
sarnoldelectricityZZZZ: alright, time for me to bail -- I'd be curious to hear how this works out for you, if you can pop a success or failure note :)02:34
devslashI noticed that ubuntu server 20.04 LTS was just released and I'm about to set up a new server. Do you guys recommend going straight to 20.04 LTS instead of 18.04 LTS like I had planned ? Would you guys say that it's stable enough ?02:34
sarnolddevslash: depends, I think; if you just want things to work, probably best to stick to 18.04 for the moment; if you're more an enthusiast and want to try things out, file bug reports when they break, etc, 20.04 may make sense02:35
genhaoqithat is a huge question, maybe depend on yourself02:35
Jordan_Udevslash: It all depends on what you're doing with your server. One thing to think of is that the project you're trying to setup may not work yet with the new package versions in 20.04. If it's just a casual home server, then probably going straight to 20.04 makes sense. That way you get two more years of useful life before you need to upgrade.02:37
devslashJordan_U I'm planning on setting up Docker and setting up Docker container for media server, web server and so on so my main focus will be on doing everything though Docker02:38
devslashAnd not installing too much outside of Docker and some bare essentials02:39
genhaoqithat is OK02:39
Phruisthe ubuntu software sources app needs to be fixed02:39
Phruisif you have an error in your sources it just hangs02:39
Phruisbeen like that for years now02:40
Jordan_Udevslash: Then I'd go with 20.04.02:40
devslashOk thanks02:40
electricityZZZZdevslash: go straight for ubuntu 20.04 LTS02:41
electricityZZZZwow it worked, encrypted zfs on root :)02:42
electricityZZZZsarnold: thanks for the debugging tip :)02:43
electricityZZZZbye everybody!02:43
devslashElectricityZZZZ what are the advantages of ZFS ? I was planning 5o use a traditional ext4 file system02:43
sarnoldelectricityZZZZ: woot!02:43
sarnoldelectricityZZZZ: thanks :D :D02:43
electricityZZZZZFS is good if you like your data to not turn to trash02:43
electricityZZZZand if you want to be smug around other linux users02:43
genhaoqiright02:45
devslashI'm reading about zfs02:45
devslashHas anyone else been using zfs02:45
genhaoqiI'd like to, but only have a small disk, not necessary02:47
sarnolddevslash: I've got a moderate sized system with zfs, and my laptop with zfs02:47
devslashI'm considering using zfs02:47
devslashBut I'm a zfs newb02:48
sarnoldthe laptop is a single nvme, so there's no redundancy gains, but it does do compression and snapshots, and I ought to be able to send my datasets off to the big machine as a backup strategy (which worked for a while, but I hit a bug there..)02:48
sarnolddevslash: I enjoyed this https://pthree.org/2012/12/04/zfs-administration-part-i-vdevs/02:48
sarnolddevslash: it's a bit older but still useful02:48
devslashI will also be installing on an nvme ssd02:49
genhaoqizfs may more suitable for a NAS02:49
Jezzirolki just downloaded the ubuntu 20.04 server iso and was throwing it in a VM, noticed that it didnt have option to do ZFS on root, unless im missing something02:49
genhaoqihttps://www.linuxidc.com/upload/2020_03/20031120112974.png02:51
sarnoldJezzirolk: it does not ;(02:51
devslashOh well then I guess i won't be using zfs then02:52
abhiHello02:52
Jezzirolkso there is no way to do ZFS on root on server without like doing a full install and then like tearing the desktop out02:53
Jezzirolkwhich sounds like a lot of work02:53
sarnoldJezzirolk: I did this on my laptop some time last year https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS02:53
sarnoldit was a lot of work02:54
abhiI am quite new to the Ubuntu operating system. But on my desktop I am not be able to control my brightness. Maybe need to work on graphics driver. Can you please help me to get Graphics Driver on the AMD Ryzen 5 2400g Vega 11?02:55
woenxWhy does Xsane look like it was last updated in 1997?02:55
Jezzirolkdo we know why they chose not to include the zfs option in the server installer?02:56
mesaboogieserver should not have "Experimental" things is my guess02:56
sarnoldJezzirolk: too much to do, too little time02:58
Jezzirolki mean i feel ya but also this is my home server that i wanted to play with/test this a bit i guess ill play with tearing the gui out of the desktop installer03:04
Jezzirolkor just go get farmiliar with MDADM again03:04
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arunkumar413My system running 18.04 doesn't show the latest 20.04 to update in the notifications03:21
dax!ltsupgrade03:22
ubottuUpgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS will be enabled once 20.04.1 is released. Until then, if you need to upgrade for testing purposes, use do-release-upgrade -d03:22
dax!ltsupgrade =~ s/released/released in late July/03:23
ubottuI'll remember that dax03:23
arunkumar413okay. Will wait till 20.04.103:25
abhiI am quite new to the Ubuntu operating system. But on my desktop I am not be able to control my brightness. Maybe need to work on graphics driver. Can you please help me to get Graphics Driver on the AMD Ryzen 5 2400g Vega 11?03:29
Jordan_UJezzirolk: I use btrfs on most of my machines and I really like it. You should be able to select btrfs as a filesystem in the server installer.03:30
RawrUpgradeEvening! Sorry to barge back in so soon with another question, but I have a crazy one. Ubuntu 20.04 is seeing my USB headset in Settings > Sound, but is ignoring when I switch to it. PulseAudio control does not even see the device. I did no setting changes to my devices. It was working, then suddenly not. I tried `systemctl --user restart03:37
RawrUpgradepulseaudio` to no avail, and tried a full reboot and still the problem remains.03:37
RawrUpgradeWait. Strike that. Small addendum.03:38
RawrUpgradeOkay, that's bizarre.03:39
RawrUpgradeIn pulse audio control, Playback Tab, I was able to select the device specifically for the application and now Ubuntu's Settings > Sound menu is responding to my toggling the dropdown again.03:41
seamlikHi, does Ubuntu Installer create a btrfs snapshot before installing on an existing root partition?04:12
seamlikI installed 20.04 on a root filesystem partition and expected the old home directory would be persisted but can't find it now04:12
seamlikHowever the disk usage hasn't changed, so it must be somewhere04:12
zap0looking at upgrading a 19.x to 20.04,  it's primary use is interfacing with a win7 machine via samba..  release notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Samba_4.11  says SMB1 disabled, is that likely to cause me problems?04:21
zap0is my current 19.x <-> win7  likely using SMB1?04:21
winnyhello - I tried to update my old ubuntu 19.04 install - but i can't seem to update sources or packages (which do-release-upgrade says I must do before upgrading to 20.04) - Pastebin here of the contents of my sources.list, apt update, apt upgrade https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/dKRNYz37PD/04:24
winny(Any suggestions or obvious pointers welcome, ubuntu isn't my most familiar OS)04:27
genhaoqitoo many 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.38 80]04:27
winnyindeed =)04:28
r2b2nzwinny: The answer on https://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-an-old-unsupported-release might help04:32
genhaoqiwinny: and check could you access http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu04:35
winnyyeah, and we can verify disco isn't on the main mirror http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ . But disco is available here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/04:37
genhaoqiwinny: change the source list by hand and update04:38
kenwoodfoxComputers are hard04:38
winnyindeed =)04:38
daxhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades goes through the whole process, if you need more step-by-step :)04:39
genhaoqikenwoodfox: not hard but complex04:39
winnyit was an old vanilla install i found on an ssd in a box. I'll probably blow it away because I wasn't intending to keep it around for long. I decided first I'd give ubuntu another litmus test to see what happens if i fire up a neglected vanilla install half a year later04:40
genhaoqireinstall a new 20.04 is better04:40
genhaoqiupdate from a very old version is very complex04:41
genhaoqimay take a lot of time04:41
kenwoodfoxgenhaoqi: Its true04:42
kenwoodfoxlots of bits04:42
winnya fresh install is certainly a fine suggestion ;) thanks for the help.04:42
jkelol111Hi, I have a problem, my mute LED on my laptop keyboard isn't working05:03
jkelol111And the audio crackles after resuming from sleep05:03
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dabbillAny one know the package to get the nvidia primus profiles under the power settings in gnome. On the top bar dropdown menu.05:39
blahboybazIf I remove mysql from my system will it hurt anything?05:41
blahboybazor if I reinstall it?05:41
blahboybazI lost my stinking password to it and I need to use it to install wp05:41
blahboybazI thought if I reinstall it or purge it and install it again it will ask me for a password and I can give it the password I remember05:42
blahboybazI tried the soln shown in the article it doesn't work05:42
invraanyone knows if there is any trick to isntall ubuntu in a btrfs subvolume?06:01
r2b2nzblahboybaz: Not sure which article you are referring to but section B.4.3.2.2 on https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/resetting-permissions.html might help06:04
bsvoHi. Has anyone noticed a title bar issue with firefox when firefox is resized back from maximize mode ?06:04
bsvoThis is on the latest  version.06:05
bsvoI see two title bars when I resize.06:06
choiceHello! On an Ubuntu machine, am I able to download and run lynx even if I don't have a root account?06:15
matsamanchoice: probably06:17
choiceHow? So far I have not found a downloadable+runnable version on the net.06:18
matsamanit might be easier to build it from source than to find a prebuilt binary06:19
oli_bHi All06:20
matsamanchoice: https://lynx.invisible-island.net/lynx2.8.9/index.html grab an archive of 2.8.9, read the INSTALLATION file 'Compile instructions -- UNIX'06:21
matsamanoli_b: hi06:21
matsamanchoice: you could possibly grab a .deb for it, though, and use deb2targz, if you've got it06:21
matsamanor some similar tool, to turn a .deb into a boring mess of binaries06:21
matsamanit all just depends on what you _do_ have access to06:21
matsamanand what you're willing to do with that access06:22
matsamanfor example if you have physical access, you can give yourself root access06:22
choicematsaman: I only have the shell. I can download via wget for example.06:22
matsamanchoice: but maybe something else that is installed already would suffice? w3m? elinks? links?06:22
matsamanchoice: technically curl and wget, even06:22
matsamanno harm trying the installatio, though06:23
choiceneither w3m, elinks nor links are present06:23
matsamaninstallation*06:23
Rumenhi there06:32
RumenI have just upgrade to 20.04 lts but crashed, kernel panic can not sync root in I have access to recovery mode and try dpkg --configure -a but nothing helped so far any ideas?06:33
Rumenin normal mode load until login where start flickering between terminal and mouse cursor06:34
matsamanRumen: what's it say exactly?06:34
RumenKernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)06:36
matsamanRumen: do you know what FS your partitions use? lsblk -f06:37
Rumenext406:37
Rumenfor sure06:37
matsamanRumen: what all is in /boot/ ?06:38
Rumenfolder grub  and many old kernels06:41
matsamanRumen: you might try the next oldest kernel in there other than the one currently configured for06:42
Rumenit doesn't load06:43
matsamanthe previous kernel? What's the error?06:43
Rumenload until login screen and there start blink terminal cursor from time to time shows the mouse cursor and nothing else06:43
matsamanoh okay, and the latest kernel is unknown block?06:44
matsamanRumen: these instructions should still work: https://dannyda.com/2019/06/29/how-to-ubuntu-18-04-2-lts-boot-into-text-mode/06:45
matsamanRumen: if you use it against your old kernel, you should be able to at least boot up and use your system, albeit without X running06:46
matsamanthat might be less tedious than from the recovery image06:46
matsamanit could be you get the unknown block error because there is an incompatibility in the latest 20.x kernel you've got06:46
matsamanif you get all the way to the login screen with the older kernel and then it freaks out, that's less likely an actual OS problem, and more likely just a mismatch between the graphics configuration in the kernel and the graphics configuration in the userland06:47
RumenI can boot and I have access to recovery mode where I can go to terminal root06:47
matsamanoh okay06:47
nshireany way to turn off gedit's auto syntax detection?06:48
Rumencan I start the upgrade again from there?06:48
nshireI'm trying to open very large files and it gives gedit a stroke06:48
matsamanRumen: do you have an initrd in /boot that matches the kernel version you're using?06:49
Rumenno idea how to check that?06:49
RumenI have updated the grub06:50
Rumensaid "done" but no changes06:50
dwaltznshire: I have and option  to turn spell check off, for the syntax do you mean a programming language specific syntax highliht?06:51
nshireI think so06:51
nshireit tries to auto-detect something and hangs06:51
RumenI have the menu from the recovery mode with resume, clean, dpkg, fsck etc ... but all options didn't helped06:51
dwaltznshire: what is the file extension06:51
nshirewell anything06:51
matsamannshire: possibly something to do with this: gsettings set org.gnome.gedit.preferences.editor syntax-highlighting false06:51
* matsaman shakes head at non-text-file configs06:52
matsamanRumen: just looking in /boot again should suffice06:53
matsamanRumen: there will probably be an initrd file for each kernel file06:53
Rumencan I start the upgrade from the root terminal again?06:53
matsamanRumen: make sure there's one for the most recent kernel06:53
Rumenyes as I see there is06:54
Rumensomething crashed during the upgrade06:54
matsamanoh really?06:54
mesaboogienshire: Menu -> view -> Hilight Mode -> Select "Plain Text"06:54
Rumenno idea what06:54
matsamanyou're not out of storage space, thougH?06:55
Rumenyep, I started the upgrade early and continue to 03:00 and it was at 50% so I went to sleep and in the morning when I woke up it was black screen06:56
Rumenspace - YES06:56
Rumena lot06:56
TR1950Xhi. is the 20.04 release stable or should I wait for a minor version?06:56
matsamanTR1950X: it's released, I have read waiting for .1 is worthwhile if you have zero time to debug issues06:58
TR1950Xok. a stable release should be stable enough so the end user does not have to debug issues. Sounds more like a beta release.06:59
bsvoI upgraded couple hours ago and I see an issue with firefox title bar when resizing from maximized mode06:59
nshiremesaboogie, I don't appear to have that option https://i.imgur.com/rZjt1Gi.png06:59
Rumensudo dpkg --configure -a   said everything is OK, any other commands crash and ask for sudo dpkg --cofigure -a haha06:59
lotuspsychjeTR1950X: like matsaman says its the users choice to install now or wait for the LTS way upgrade path07:00
dwaltzI'm not seeing to 20.04  the upgrade yet07:00
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade07:00
ubottuRegular upgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS will be enabled once 20.04.1 is released in late July. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d07:00
tatertotsi think it's a "LTS" version07:00
lotuspsychjetatertots: it is, but it always have been this way, like for production and stability to await .107:01
tatertotsLTS versions are usually good for 5 years so 16.04 would be good until 2021, 18.04 good until 2023 and 20.04 good until 2-2507:01
tatertots202507:02
nshireeh I'm just going to use something else to view non-text files07:03
dwaltzubottu: I did no know I had to use -d for an LTS, thanks07:06
ubottudwaltz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:06
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Seveasdwaltz: only unril the first point-release is released07:09
Seveasat which point the upgrade will be offered to users of the previous lts07:10
sumagnaanyone here who can help me set up ubuntu 20.04 alongside ubuntu07:10
sumagnaalongside windows 10 i meant07:10
tatertotssumagna: sometimes it's suggested that windows be installed FIRST07:11
opa7331@sumagna sure whats your setup? only one harddrive for both?07:11
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sumagnathats done07:11
sumagnai have a ssd on which windows is(C:/07:12
sumagna)07:12
tatertotssumagna: then you should boot LiveCD/LiveUSB  and use gparted to make space for a second OS07:13
opa7331and no other ssds or hdds?07:13
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opa7331That is not neccessarry as ubuntu can shrink windows partitions as well07:13
sumagnaone ssd and one hdd07:13
opa7331more important is if there are other disks and if the contain the bootloader07:14
raffaG'day, I have a L2TP/IPSec VPN connection to a client. Is there a way I can set this connection, like under Windows, where the connection should not use the clients router as the gateway (so it doesn't route all my traffic across the VPN) and set some static routes instead?07:14
tatertotsi don't think ubuntu automagically will configure ubuntu on it's own without user or human interactions07:14
tatertotsgparted will be used in any case to create space for second OS07:14
sumagnai think the windows bootloader is on the C:/(ssd)07:14
* opa7331 chuckles07:14
opa7331just to be sure i'd physically unplug the non C: drive and reboot into windows to check if thats the case. You can also leave it unplugged for the whole installation07:15
atol-71sumaqna: I had similar setup and I just used the setups install alonside windows option and job done. Really easy. It asks how big of a part you want to give for Ubuntu07:15
matsamanopa7331: so safe, so wise07:16
opa7331just had my felings hurt one too many times07:17
sumagnahow to boot into the livecd?07:17
sumagnaliveusb07:17
opa7331use rufus to write the iso on to a usb drive07:18
opa7331https://rufus.ie/07:18
raffaor Unetbutin07:18
sumagnai have written the iso already07:19
sumagnahow to boot into it?07:19
opa7331plug it in, reboot and if you are lucky (and the settings in your bios are correct) you might see a keyboard+stickfigure which tells you just started grub2 (menu where to select if to install or try ubuntu)07:19
opa7331make sure to plug it directly into your pc. If you have a tower/desktop plug it in the back07:19
sumagnadone07:19
sumagnait is checking filesystems  right now07:21
opa7331great07:21
* opa7331 cheers07:21
sumagnatry ubuntu or go straight to installing07:23
opa7331you can try if you want. There is an install now button there as well07:23
sumagnai want to see how it is like07:24
opa7331sure, go for it07:24
sumagnaits so smooth than the laptop i am talking from right now(which is a bit old)07:25
sumagnagoinf to installing it07:25
sumagnagoing to install it i mean07:25
opa7331usually after all the easy questions it will tell you that it has detected onother operating system (in your case windows10)07:27
sumagnathe option is there to install alogside windows boot manager07:29
sumagnai should choose that, right?07:29
opa7331if youd like you can mess around with the other option07:30
sumagnanaa07:30
opa7331then you can check out the gparted partraffa was taking about07:31
opa7331To be honest I don't know for sure whatthe size of the new partition will be07:32
sumagnaafter i selected the 'alongside' option07:32
sumagnait gave me a divider for files and ubuntu07:33
opa7331ahh great that sounds awesome07:33
sumagnaatol-71: you installed it so any help?07:34
opa7331to be honest Im not too sure what to select...07:35
reCaptchaSamsung 2030 monitor on 20.04, inxi -G  Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] driver: N/A   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: nouveau,vesa   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: 1024x768~N/A   OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 9.0.1 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.0.4 Says driver N/AIs there a solution please?07:35
sumagnait divided the space in half and for files and ubuntu07:36
sumagnashould i press install now?07:37
sumagna"Install Now"?07:37
opa7331so it shrinked the C: and placed ubuntu next to it?07:37
sumagnait didnt place it on C: but on another hdd07:38
opa7331uh-oh Is that what you want?07:38
sumagnai just want it installed07:38
opa7331but on the ssd and not the hdd right?07:39
sumagnai have no problem if it is on the HDD07:39
zvrksumagna: i in your place i will first make free space with windows1007:39
sumagnawhat do you mean make space?07:39
opa7331but ubuntu might install another bootloader if you do not choose the windows disk07:39
sumagnait is giving me the option to select only the sdb(HDD) and not sda(SSD)07:40
opa7331mhh you might have installed windows in UEFI mode and started the stick in non-UEFI mode07:41
sumagnareally?07:41
sumagnahow can i know that?07:41
reCaptchahttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhDvSgK3Ct/07:41
opa7331you need to check with your bios07:41
sumagnafrom within ubuntu07:42
sumagnahow can i know from within ubuntu07:42
opa7331it will tell you UEFI: sandisk (or whatever the name of your usbdisk) and just the name without UEFI prefix07:42
sumagnaisnt there any command07:42
opa7331mhh im not sure07:42
opa7331!uefi07:42
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:42
opa7331ahh ubottu your the best lol07:43
sumagnashould i chek if the usb stick has gpt or mbr?07:43
opa7331that should not be the problem07:44
opa7331you need to make sure that your bios detects the usb stick that its UEFI capabile07:44
sumagnahttps://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj168-6yIDpAhUPX30KHQL2CN8QFjAEegQIDBAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Fitsfoss.com%2Fcheck-uefi-or-bios%2F&usg=AOvVaw1ip5z-veaCyCGQM5eNNMw-07:44
zvrksumagna: if you are not sure with what you are doing i suggest that first make back up your of your windows07:44
sumagnaas per this site https://itsfoss.com/check-uefi-or-bios/07:45
sumagna"The easiest way to find out if you are running UEFI or BIOS is to look for a folder /sys/firmware/efi. The folder will be missing if your system is using BIOS.'07:45
sumagnahow to make sure opa733107:46
opa7331I expected he already did that zvrk07:46
sumagnathat it detects the usb stick as uefi capable?07:46
opa7331check with your bios. before the menu "install ubuntu" try ubuntu" starts up press f2 or DEL07:47
opa7331and check in there07:47
sumagnai got in the bios of ASus i think07:47
sumagnait identifies sandisk cruzer switch as UEFI07:47
sumagnait states it like : "UEFI: SanDisk Cruzer Switch 1.26"07:48
sumagnaopa7331: ?07:49
opa7331brb in 15min07:51
sumagnai dont have much time07:53
opa7331if it says UEFI you should be fine07:54
sumagnathere was an option on the boot select option cotaining the word "UEFI"07:55
sumagnayea "UEFI firmware setting"07:55
opa7331don setthe firmware settings07:56
sumagnai just told u there was an option07:56
opa7331just select the uefi as boot option07:56
sumagnai am not so much of an idiot to select that07:56
opa7331try booting UEFI again and make sure that you can see windows10 in the installation menu07:57
sumagnai am clicking install now option07:57
opa7331just one more question07:57
sumagnayea07:57
opa7331do you have a backup?07:58
* opa7331 pays...07:58
opa7331*prays07:58
zvrksumagna: i suggest first read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot07:58
sumagnai never backup :p07:59
sumagnaeven when i installed on this laptop07:59
opa7331oh07:59
zvrksumagna: do you have recoveryusb for windows08:00
opa7331well i can not in good faite tell you to install now :-/08:00
opa7331oh good q zvrk08:00
sumagnai dont know08:00
zvrksumagna: read web page what i give you and then process to install ubuntu08:03
sumagnai dont have time to backup08:03
opa7331no time? Won't repairing take up more tie?08:04
sumagnai can understand what you guys are trying to tell08:05
zvrksumagna: then you are on your own don't cry to us that we are give you bed advice when you scrue your system08:05
sumagnai dont accuse anyone else for my fault08:06
sumagnai promise08:06
sumagnanow tell me how to install it please08:07
opa7331I'd like to go back to my before statement and tell you to remove the hdd08:08
opa7331like physically disconnect08:09
opa7331that way you can ensure that your ssd with windows is correctly recognied (with uefi and whatnot) and you dont end up needing and windows recovery stick08:09
sumagnait is giving me the option to install ubuntu alongside windows 1008:10
opa7331alriight08:11
sumagnashould i choose it?08:11
opa7331and again with files and ubuntu on one side and windows on the other?08:12
opa7331if both are on the same disk08:12
opa7331click next08:12
sumagnait is still installing ubuntu on the other drive becuase the ssd has 220gb space i think08:13
sumagnanot free08:13
opa7331mh don't click install now then08:13
sumagnait is all total space on the ssd08:13
opa7331resize your partition like plenty have others suggested08:13
sumagnai am bad at resizing partitions08:14
opa7331i heard.No Backup right ;)08:14
sumagna:)08:14
opa7331alright is there really no space?08:14
sumagnassd has a partition of 239.4 gb which contains c:/08:15
sumagnait has near 124 gb free space08:15
sumagna124061 MB08:15
tatertotsthere are youtube videos that show how to setup dual boot, maybe you should watch a few of those08:16
opa7331but it still is suggesting to install on the other drive?08:16
sumagnai went to advanced partitionng tool which was present under the "resizing ubuntu and files" dragger08:17
opa7331tatertots didn't you hear this guy has neither enough time to backup anything nor time to calmy install ubuntu08:17
opa7331where should he find time to watch youtubes...08:17
opa7331alright so what did you find in there sumagna?08:17
sumagnaDevice for bootloader installation:08:18
sumagnadropdown under it containing the partitions and drive08:18
sumagnaand on top of it is the partitioning area08:18
opa7331familiar yourself with your two drives08:18
sumagna/dev/sda is the ssd and /dev/sdb is th hdd08:19
opa7331where is window sinstalled again?08:19
sumagna/dev/sda08:19
opa7331alright so /dev/sda will have the bootloader08:19
opa7331try to install ubuntu along that very same partition you just mentioned08:20
sumagna/dev/sda?08:20
opa7331and make sure the install the bootloader there as well08:20
opa7331yep08:20
sumagnai have to resize partitions08:20
opa7331it will be done auomatically08:21
sumagnawhat should i choose device for bootloader installation then?08:21
sumagna??08:22
opa7331the ssd08:22
sumagna/dev/sda08:22
opa7331yup thats the one08:22
sumagnabtw it is not in the normal install alongside windows boot manager option08:23
sumagnai went to the "Advanced partitioning tools"08:23
haltJust updated to 20.04 and switched from BIOS to UFI in the meantime, it did not go as smooth as I expected, I'm getting this error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jnqv9zZMVt/ and yes I already removed the grub* and installed grub-efi, but no luck yet, anything trivial I'm missing ?08:23
opa7331thats alright08:23
opa7331i reakize your in the partition manager now08:23
sumagnait will not delete windows?08:24
opa7331no08:24
sumagnaok then08:24
opa7331it will however overwrite the windows bootloader08:24
sumagnawait08:24
opa7331mh?08:24
sumagnai wil show u the screen i have right now08:25
opa7331i need a quick break till you uploaded the picture08:26
opa7331brb in 5min08:27
vargfrosti was trying to upgrade to 20.04 from usb/iso but the option wasnt there? have they removed upgrade to new release from usb/iso?08:27
sumagnaimgur.com/a/FOEa7hQ08:28
sumagnaopa7331: this is the screen i have08:29
sumagnasee08:30
sumagnahttps://i.imgur.com/FC7FmCt.jpg08:31
opa7331alrighty08:32
sumagnaso what to do?08:33
opa7331resize your windows partition /dev/sda4 (shrink widnows)08:33
sumagnahow much?08:33
opa7331for that selectthe partition /dev/sda4 click change and shrink it so you have around 20gb of free spac at the end08:34
opa7331mybe even 3008:34
sumagnacan i have /home on another partition?08:34
opa7331id suggest puttin /boot and /home on the same partition08:34
opa7331since this mbr you can't have more than 4 primary partitions anyway08:35
sumagnagpt08:35
sumagnauefi on gpt08:35
opa7331oh well08:35
opa7331then it might work. still i don't see why08:35
sumagnathen the space on ssd has to be reduced much lesser08:36
sumagnai actually dont use windows on this computer, my elder sister does for his rendering studd08:36
sumagna*stuff08:36
opa7331uff08:37
opa7331maybe you should really make a backup first08:37
sumagnashe wont be angry actually08:37
opa7331than go on08:37
sumagnaanyways her files are on the hdd08:37
opa7331i see08:38
sumagnathe software are on the ssd08:38
sumagnathats why she wont be angry08:38
opa7331still08:38
opa7331shrink windows, and use that free space to put the whole ubuntu there08:38
sumagnahello?08:40
EriC^^sumagna: what are you doing?08:40
sumagna/home?08:40
sumagnaagain dualbooting08:40
sumagnayou helped me last time if i remember correctly08:41
EriC^^yeah08:41
opa7331i told him to use the advanced partition tool while installing ubuntu alongway of windows1008:41
EriC^^didn't you install on your dad's pc?08:41
sumagnayea but it is old08:41
sumagnaso some of things are not getting along like tensorflow08:41
sumagnamy sister's computer is pretty new with a good processor and much more RAM08:42
EriC^^aha08:42
EriC^^ok, so did you shrink windows and make unallocated space available for ubuntu?08:43
sumagnanot yet08:43
EriC^^do that from windows, from its disk management tool08:43
sumagnaok08:43
sumagnathen let me restart the computer08:43
opa7331EriC^^ thanks for taking over haha08:44
EriC^^if it fails or say not enough volume even though you have the space, you might need to defrag it first08:44
EriC^^lol opa733108:44
* EriC^^ locks channel doors, you're not going anywhere! :D08:45
* opa7331 ratteling atthe doors 08:45
EriC^^xD08:45
opa7331nah thats fine. Im here, just wont answer as fast08:45
sumagnahow much do i need?08:46
EriC^^sumagna: like 20gb min would be good for a standard install, if your sis can spare the space08:46
sumagnacan i have the /home on another drive?08:47
EriC^^if you want yeah08:47
sumagnahow much mb should i enter?08:47
EriC^^sumagna: the pc has 2 drives or it's another hdd?08:47
sumagnassd and hdd08:48
EriC^^ok08:48
EriC^^so install on ssd and /home on hdd i guess08:48
sumagnaits giving in mb and not gb08:48
EriC^^yeah that's not a problem08:48
sumagnahow much mb then?08:48
sumagna*MB08:48
EriC^^1gb is 1000mb08:48
EriC^^so 20,000mb is 20gb08:48
sumagna2000008:48
EriC^^yeah08:48
sumagna19.53 gb08:49
sumagnai entered the exact value of 20,00008:49
sumagnanp?08:49
EriC^^that works, you also need to make unallocated space on the hdd for /home08:49
sumagnaone of the partitions on the hdd is totally mine so no problem08:50
sumagnahow much should i allocate?08:50
sumagnahow much should i allocat for the /home08:51
EriC^^it's totally up to you08:51
sumagna30 gb?08:52
EriC^^that sounds good08:52
sumagnashrinked08:52
karges10hi all , i have really got into a problem here. after upgrading to 20.4 today my system is not booting08:52
sumagnanow08:52
sumagnarestart ubuntu with the liveUSB08:53
sumagna?08:53
karges10not sure what had happened during the update. just  the lenovo  compnay symbol is coming thats all!! i tried booting a live08:53
karges10and tried to repair the grub by grub repair08:53
EriC^^sumagna: yeah08:53
karges10boot-repair08:53
karges10it did not solve the problem either.. but it asked whether it should upload the result to pastebin , i said no needed08:54
EriC^^karges10: can you boot a live usb right now?08:54
sumagnastarted ubuntu08:54
karges10yeap08:54
karges10i will do once again now08:55
EriC^^karges10: ok boot it up and let it connect to the internet and report back08:55
karges10ok sure08:55
EriC^^sumagna: ok, press 'try ubuntu'08:55
sumagnainstall ubuntu?08:55
karges10oh yea i will do that only08:55
karges10try ubuntu08:55
EriC^^sumagna: not yet, let's make sure there's no uefi/legacy issues first08:55
sumagnadone08:55
EriC^^sumagna: ok, does it have internet connection currently?08:56
karges10yes08:56
EriC^^karges10: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"08:56
karges10last time when i did live boot ( 10 mins bnack) i connected to internet and installed this boot-repair tool08:56
sumagnayup08:56
EriC^^sumagna: also type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"08:56
karges10ok i will08:57
EriC^^sumagna: also, type "ls /sys/firmware/efi" and report back if it shows dirs or says no file found08:57
karges10ok noting down all the steps08:57
sumagnahttps://termbin.com/mcke08:57
sumagnaparted command^08:57
EriC^^sumagna: looks good08:58
sumagnaefi contains file08:58
EriC^^ok, all good then08:58
EriC^^sumagna: press install ubuntu08:58
sumagnaby the way, i dont have a powerful internet connection right now08:58
EriC^^sumagna: when it asks you about how to install, choose the last option at the bottom "Something else" that lets you partition manually08:59
sumagnaso can i install the updates later?08:59
EriC^^sumagna: yeah08:59
karges10"sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" -->  t6pj08:59
sumagnadone08:59
EriC^^karges10: ok, type "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"09:00
sumagnanow?09:00
karges10ls /sys/firmware/efi --o4y109:00
EriC^^sumagna: create a 20gb in the ssd, (sda), and set the mountpoint to "/" and the filesystem type to "ext4"09:01
sumagnawhere will apt install the packages?09:01
EriC^^sumagna: in sda09:02
karges10ok, type "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt" --> its saying vcant find in fstab09:02
karges10seems my hard disk is not detected in this live boot09:02
sumagnait will suffice in 20gb? without /home?09:02
EriC^^karges10: no it's detected fine, i think there might be a typo09:02
EriC^^usually if you dont give it a mountpoint it looks in fstab09:02
sumagna??09:02
EriC^^sumagna: yeah 20gb for the root fs is good09:03
EriC^^sumagna: you'll add /home in a bit09:03
sumagnadone09:03
EriC^^sumagna: ok, same for /home, create in sdb a 30gb partition mountpoint "/home" and filesystem type "ext4"09:03
karges10ok fdisk is not in sl60 termbin09:03
karges10now*09:04
sumagnadone09:04
karges10you can see there my hard disk is not listed in fdisk09:04
EriC^^karges10: yup it sees it fine, try again "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"09:04
EriC^^karges10: it is, at the bottom09:04
sumagnadevice for bootloader installation?09:04
EriC^^sumagna: /dev/sda09:05
karges10at the bottom its sdb309:05
karges10?09:05
sumagna/dev/sda or /dev/sda5(root)09:05
EriC^^sumagna: you want to click on /dev/sda2 and make sure it's type is set to "EFI"09:05
EriC^^sumagna: plain /dev/sda09:05
sumagnait is set to efi09:05
EriC^^karges10: above a little09:05
EriC^^karges10: /dev/sda2  1050624 1953523711 1952473088  931G Linux filesystem09:05
sumagnanow?09:06
EriC^^sumagna: press install now09:07
karges10i dunno whether i am trying right command i typped  /dev/sda2/mnt09:07
EriC^^karges10: there should be a space between /dev/sda2 and /mnt09:07
karges10oops109:07
karges10done mounted09:08
karges10now hard disk at /mnt09:08
karges10:)09:08
EriC^^karges10: ok, type the following line09:08
sumagnanow?09:08
karges10ok tell me09:08
sumagnaafter setting where are you and who are you?09:08
sumagnacontinue?09:08
EriC^^karges10: for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done09:09
EriC^^sumagna: yeah09:09
sumagnaits installing09:10
* sumagna prays09:10
* opa7331 joins in the prayer09:10
sumagna:)09:10
karges10ok doing09:10
sumagnado i need any additional drivers for AMD ryzen 5?09:11
EriC^^i dont think so09:11
sumagnait will tell me that when i start up Ubuntu i think09:12
opa7331sumagna probably not09:12
sumagnayou also have amd?09:12
karges10ok executed09:12
EriC^^karges10: ok, it returned nothing right?09:12
karges10its completed09:12
karges10yes09:12
karges10returned nothing09:12
EriC^^karges10: ok, type "sudo chroot /mnt"09:12
sumagnashould i press restart now?09:13
EriC^^sumagna: yeah09:13
karges10it went in  to some other promt09:13
* sumagna is still praying for the best09:13
karges10i think root prompt09:13
EriC^^karges10: ok, good, type "mount -a"09:13
karges10done , returned nothing09:13
sumagnait is giving me the boot menu09:14
EriC^^karges10: ok, try "grub-install"09:14
EriC^^sumagna: great09:14
karges10installing for x86_64-efi platform. installtion finished no error reported09:15
EriC^^karges10: also "update-grub"09:15
karges10it ran i have few lines of out put..09:15
karges10it ended with done09:15
EriC^^karges10: ok, type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"09:16
karges10adding boot menu entry for ueft firmware settings09:16
opa7331sumagna yeah also have ryzen 360009:16
DwarfTrying to upgrade from bionic->focal, but after editing sources.list I get the following error upon apt update: http://dpaste.com/22VW90X09:16
karges10ls - is ir upper case i09:16
sumagna:)09:16
DwarfI tried apt install --reinstall command-not-found but that did not fix the issue09:16
EriC^^karges10: nope ls -lR  small L then capital R09:17
DwarfFull output here: http://dpaste.com/2XXYHHH09:17
sumagnaok gotta go09:17
karges10vttm09:18
sumagnabtw cannot connect to a phones hotspot09:18
sumagnait is showing very low signal09:18
opa7331sumagna when will you be back?09:19
sumagnawithin half an hour09:19
EriC^^karges10: ok, type "mkdir -p /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot"09:19
opa7331maybe you can use usb instead of wlan AP09:19
sumagnai used usb tethering for now09:19
sumagnai have a wlan adapter09:20
karges10microsoft! am not dealing with mocrosoft ! all i did was upgrade from 19.10 to 20.4 and this issue came.. just saying this as reminder09:20
karges10if u want me to type this command still i will do but just said09:20
EriC^^karges10: yes i know, it's uefi related and hardware/manufacturer implementations09:20
EriC^^karges10: yeah, type it and no worries09:20
sumagnatplink wireless adapter09:21
karges10yeap09:21
karges10done09:21
opa7331i see09:21
karges10no output09:21
jeremy31sumagna:  USB?09:21
EriC^^karges10: ok, type "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi"09:21
sumagnayea09:21
jeremy31sumagna: post URL from terminal for> lsusb | nc termbin.com 999909:22
karges10i think the destination path is not right09:22
sumagnai am going to post the url and go off09:23
sumagnai dont have much time09:23
sumagnaohrx09:23
sumagnatermbin.com/ohrx09:23
karges10i created two efis as per ur prev command , in this cp destination there is only one09:23
opa7331gotta remember that command jeremy31 thats really great09:24
EriC^^karges10: try "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" again09:24
EriC^^karges10: there's 2 efi in the destination, /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot09:25
karges10correct09:25
karges10thats what even i said09:25
karges10should i repeat the same cp with 2 EFI09:25
karges10?09:25
EriC^^im confused, you said "in this cp destination there is only one"09:25
karges10my bad09:26
karges10pls wait09:26
EriC^^karges10: ok09:26
karges10 i will type again09:26
EriC^^the full destination is /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi09:27
karges10ook09:28
karges10done cp09:28
karges10no error09:28
EriC^^ok, finally "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot"09:28
DwarfFound my issue09:30
karges10okdone09:30
karges10executed with out any error09:30
EriC^^karges10: ok, type "exit" then try restarting the pc09:30
opa7331Eric^^ im astound at your supportskills09:31
karges10ok this time also lenovo symbol oinly coming!09:31
karges10i am not sure whether this will boot09:32
karges10need to wait for conformation09:32
karges10so basiclaly we tried to res install the grub and replaced the firm ware files09:32
EriC^^karges10: yeah we reinstalled grub, and also did a uefi workaround in case the bios only wants to boot the microsoft one09:33
karges10i still did not get the MS concept. i understand MS is something to do with lenovo hard ware09:33
karges10unfortunately its still the same :(09:33
karges10its not booting09:33
karges10am feeling why i upgraded09:33
EriC^^karges10: no worries we'll get it working09:33
karges10it could have been 19.1009:34
EriC^^karges10: go into the bios for a sec, and see if uefi is enabled and csm legacy disabled09:34
karges10full hopes on u and  this grouo__/\__09:34
xMaverickFor some reason the installer created an efi partition even though my laptop uses bios not uefi. There are no issues but it is indeed strange09:34
EriC^^xMaverick: the live usb was probably booted in uefi mode09:34
xMaverickThere are different modes to boot a usb?09:35
EriC^^xMaverick: yeah09:35
vitalioHello, Is it ok for Activities (when I click on Activities in Gnome shell) not to show not installed suggestions on 20.04 ? I've upgraded from 19.10 and when typein irc Polari is not suggested anymore09:35
vitalioneither vinagre for Remote desktop09:35
xMaverickWell how can I boot it in uefi mode if I don't even support uefi09:36
xMaverickI'll search more about it09:36
EriC^^xMaverick: most pc's after 2004 or something all support uefi09:37
karges10not sure what am checking is coorect under bios -> security09:38
karges10windows UEFI firmware update is enabled09:38
xMaverickyeah I'll check if I have secure boot or something when I go into bios options next time I reboot. Last time I checked, this doesn't. Will investigate thanks09:38
EriC^^karges10: hmm, is there anything under boot options?09:38
EriC^^karges10: something about secureboot, or csm legacy or uefi?09:39
lnkcmplxcthow do i compile the current version of the emacs from source on an ubuntu, is there a tutorial or guide you know of?09:39
EriC^^xMaverick: when the live usb boots, you can try "ls /sys/firmware/efi" if it returns dirs then uefi mode was used for booting09:39
karges10when i go under secure boot09:40
karges10ok the side information text is saying some information09:40
karges10UEFI only09:40
EriC^^xMaverick: or on you're current ubuntu you can run it too to see if it was used for booting09:40
karges10CSM support is no09:40
EriC^^karges10: ok, that's good, try to disable secureboot if it's enabled09:40
karges10secure boot disabled09:41
xMaverickAh yes good advice Eric. I did remember reading about that command in Arch wiki I think09:41
karges10i  am having virtual macine inside i remember i disabled it long time ago09:41
EriC^^karges10: aha i see09:41
EriC^^karges10: ok, try to restart the pc, then press F12 or Fn+F1209:41
karges10i just conformed secure boot is [Disabled]09:41
EriC^^hopefully it will give some kind of boot menu09:42
xMaverickyeah there are no directories. this is bios mode. Will check again when I boot into live thanks09:42
karges10i am in the boot menu only !09:42
EriC^^xMaverick: odd then indeed09:42
karges10from there only am saying all these settings!09:42
xMaverickYeah very odd. I'll have to search more about it09:42
EriC^^karges10: yeah i know, i meant a run-time boot menu09:42
EriC^^where you can select what to boot once09:43
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karges10ok u want me to go in to the boot order09:43
EriC^^karges10: aha actually yeah does it give a uefi boot order?09:43
karges10yea09:44
karges101.ubuntu09:44
karges102.HDD09:44
karges103fedora (long time before i delted it i duno why its still there)09:44
karges104CD09:44
karges105 USB09:44
karges1010 PCI LAN09:44
xMaverickAh well it seems there is an answer https://askubuntu.com/questions/1122650/no-efi-system-partition-was-found-but-i-dont-have-a-uefi-and-the-installer-is-i09:45
xMaverickIt boots into uefi mode while installing even if you don't even support it09:45
EriC^^karges10: aha that looks good09:46
karges10ok what to do now09:46
EriC^^karges10: ok, try to restart09:46
EriC^^karges10: press f12 or fn+f1209:46
EriC^^see what menu you get09:46
karges10grub menu09:46
karges10*ubuntu09:46
karges10advanced options09:47
karges10and bunch of options starting with EFI09:47
EriC^^xMaverick: aha interesting09:47
xMaverickyeah I'll reinstall it without uefi mode09:48
EriC^^karges10: ok, try pressing on ubuntu09:48
EriC^^karges10: this is some bios menu right, not the grub menu?09:48
karges10thats what by default also it takes and noithing happens09:48
karges10nooo09:48
karges10if you want to go to bios menu i will09:49
EriC^^wait a second, is this the grub menu?09:49
karges10i was there only previously09:49
karges10yes its grub09:49
EriC^^karges10: ohh09:49
EriC^^then this isn't a booting problem at all09:49
RaikossHi! I just upgraded (not freshly installed, rookie mistake) from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS. It was mostly painless, though now I don't have the default gnome settings installed. After running `sudo apt install gnome-control-center` to install it again, I get an error message: https://pastebin.com/NGaCYNr9. Any help at all is greatly appreciated!09:49
EriC^^karges10: i mean it's not a bootloader problem09:49
VinPopI installed Kubuntu on a seperate drive other than windows09:50
RaikossOops, there's an added dot at the end of that pastebin link09:50
VinPopso i was going to use windows and it showed me an error with GRUB09:50
Prolachi, when I login to my server through SSH using keys why does it still asks me for password when using sudo commands? Shouldn't my private key be used instead?09:51
VinPopit opened up GRUB rescue and said the filesystem was unknown09:51
VinPophow can i fix this?09:51
EriC^^karges10: hmm, did you try to boot a different kernel? go to advanced options then choose one there09:52
karges10i tried09:52
karges10once09:52
karges10i will try again09:52
EriC^^Prolac: your private key is just for the login part, the rest depends on how the user is set up with "sudo"09:53
karges10ubuntu with linux 5.3.0-45 generic09:53
xMaverickyeah not gonna bother reinstalling ubuntu09:54
xMaverickefi partition is doing nothing09:54
xMaverickAnd i don't think deleting things from the live usb is a good idea09:54
EriC^^xMaverick: you could probably just remove the entry from fstab, and make sure that grub-pc is installed and no related grub-efi packages09:54
karges10ok i wil  tell u , i tried to choose another option in th advance menu09:55
lagDoes anyone have any idea where I can ask about sysdaemon?09:55
xMaverickOkay how do I do that09:55
karges10nothing works09:55
karges10all i see is a mouse pointer for few seconds09:55
karges10no log in menu nothing09:55
EriC^^xMaverick: well, list the packages with "dpkg -l | grep grub" to see which are installed09:55
karges10i can move the mouse pointer in the black screen thats all09:56
EriC^^VinPop: can you boot a live usb?09:56
EriC^^to troubleshoot and see09:56
xMaverickYeah grub-pc is installed grub-efi is not installed09:56
lagSorry *syndaemon09:56
EriC^^xMaverick: ok, type "sudo nano /etc/fstab" if there's an entry with /boot/efi as the mountpoint, then add a "#" at the start of the line to comment it out09:56
karges10EriC^^ any idea09:56
karges10?09:56
EriC^^karges10: hmm try to boot the fail safe one to see if its a graphics driver issue09:57
karges10how come its a graphic issue09:58
EriC^^karges10: advanced > some kernel with recovery options > then choose to continue in fail safe mode09:58
karges10its a boot issue rite09:58
xMaverickAh ok got it thanks09:58
EriC^^karges10: yes it's an os boot issue really, could be graphics, bad kernel, etc09:59
EriC^^it's not a bootloader/grub problem09:59
karges10ok itried advancved option -> recover mode09:59
EriC^^xMaverick: no problem10:00
karges10after showing a list its not doing anything10:00
VinPopEriC^^ yeah i can10:00
VinPopbut what should i do10:00
VinPopcheck if the windows partition is alright?10:00
VinPopbecause i already did that10:00
VinPopit's active and healthy10:00
VinPopGRUB won't let me access it though10:00
VinPopbecause of "unknown filesystem"10:00
EriC^^VinPop: yeah, boot it, get an internet connection on it and type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here10:00
EriC^^VinPop: is windows encrypted or so?10:01
VinPopnope10:01
EriC^^karges10: ok in the list choose continue/fail safe10:01
JoeMeritguys is ubuntu 20.04 the KING of operating systems ?10:01
VinPopum10:02
VinPopit depends on what you want10:02
VinPopLinux systems depend on how much work you wanna put in them and what it stands for10:02
VinPopso idk10:02
karges10there no continue/fail safe EriC^^10:02
EriC^^karges10: whats the first option in the list10:02
karges10there are 6 options under adavanced10:02
EriC^^karges10: oh, choose the latest kernel but with recovery mode10:03
karges105.4 gneric 5.4 generic recovery10:03
karges10same as 5.310:03
karges10thats all10:03
karges10yes10:03
karges10that recovery mode only did no help10:03
EriC^^ok try 5.4 recovery10:03
karges10trying10:03
RaikossHi! I just upgraded (not freshly installed, rookie mistake) from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS. It was mostly painless, though now I don't have the default gnome settings installed. After running `sudo apt install gnome-control-center` to install it again, I get an error message: https://pastebin.com/NGaCYNr9 Any help at all is greatly appreciated!10:04
karges10again same thing , its displaying lot of things in terminal like  a list very fastly10:04
karges10and then does nothing10:04
EriC^^karges10: odd, what about the 5.3 recovery?10:05
karges10thats what i did some time before10:05
EriC^^!info linux-image-generic focal10:05
karges10its the  same10:05
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.26.32 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 17 kB10:05
karges10fastly displaying results and then did nothing10:05
karges10i think i need to reinstall the OS10:06
karges10thats the only option i guess10:06
EriC^^karges10: this is right after you press recovery kernel right? so not even recovery menu is showing?10:06
karges10i press addevanced -> 6 options -> i choose recovery option _> fastly listing something on monitor10:06
karges10and then doing nothing10:06
EriC^^karges10: honestly i would fresh install if you can, i dont like updating but thats just me10:07
EriC^^aha10:07
karges10i have lots of data10:07
karges10i think after live boot i need to mound hard disk10:07
karges10back up the data in external drive then install!10:07
EriC^^karges10: data in your home dir or like program data and configurations and stuff?10:07
EriC^^karges10: yeah probably best10:07
karges10downloaded files games etc., vm files ISO10:08
karges10ok10:08
EriC^^karges10: firstly try the 'try ubuntu' option and see how it runs and stuff10:08
karges10it runs fine10:08
EriC^^ok good10:08
karges10but how can i invoke the installed softwares via this try option10:08
karges10even if i mount hardisk10:09
xMaverickForgive me for asking but is upgrading Ubuntu from one LTS version to another a bad idea or is clean install simply better10:09
EriC^^xMaverick: clean install is better10:09
EriC^^imho10:09
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xMaverickHmm I see10:09
EriC^^karges10: what do you mean?10:09
EriC^^karges10: you mean how to install after using try ubuntu?10:10
karges10i installed some softwares like vm player everything in old jard disk10:10
karges10hard disk10:10
karges10when i mount my hard disk10:10
karges10how will i invoke it10:10
swe442is it possible to do a clean install of ubuntu without a usb key?10:10
swe442I am running 18.0410:11
EriC^^it depends on how you installed them first time karges1010:11
karges10means10:11
karges10how i instaleld?10:11
karges10installed as  root10:11
EriC^^karges10: you'd have to reinstall them i guess10:12
karges10ok10:12
EriC^^swe442: you could boot the iso from grub, or alternatively use a vm + a raw disk image file to access the physical hdd10:12
swe442EriC^^ so it is possible?  sorry, I'm very new at this and kind of scared to wreck my system10:13
EriC^^swe442: yeah it's possible, but honestly a live usb is invaluable for troubleshooting problems if they happen, so i'd walk cautiously you know10:14
EriC^^probably better to get some usb10:14
EriC^^or at least a usb with a live linux that can be used to troubleshoot and stuff10:14
karges10ok i try to mount the hard disk its sdb110:17
karges10this time its not mounting10:17
karges10ntfs volume its already mounted10:17
karges10thats what it is showing10:17
EriC^^karges10: it might be mounted in /media/<user>10:18
EriC^^if you run "mount | grep sdb1" in a terminal it should show where10:18
Markus57Hey guzs,10:20
phinxyIs the fingerprint reading in Ubuntu 20 made so it is possible to have a keychain to log on to remote ssh sessions by scanning fingerprint instead of typing the (saved) password?10:20
Markus57has anyone else experienced issues with UBUNTU 20.04 that zou cant have a keyborad plugged in when booting up?10:21
karges10its sda210:21
karges10done10:21
karges10thanks for ur help10:24
karges10leaving10:24
karges10bye10:24
swe442EriC^^ Okay, so can I download the iso?  My system is already dual booting with windows10:25
Markus57has anyone else experienced issues with UBUNTU 20.04 that zou cant have a keyborad plugged in when booting up?10:26
neowebubuntu 18.04.3 not sockstat is not showing unix domain sockets10:26
malte1Hi, I have network troubles since upgrading from 19.04 to 20.04. Is there someone willing to help me a bit?10:30
swe442EriC^^ OKay, I have the ISO, would you happen to know how I would proceed to install?10:31
Markus57swe442 do u have it installed on a usb? so that it is a boot usb?10:32
swe442Markus57 I'm trying ot install it without a usb10:32
swe442I'm reading about UNetbootin?10:32
Markus57ah i see10:32
xMaverickYou have to use an USB or a DVD or some form of boot media10:33
xMaverickUnetbootin is just another iso writer with an extra feature that it can download the isos of popular for you if you wish10:34
swe442wait, am I UEFI or BIOS?10:34
Markus57swe442 https://www.ostechnix.com/how-to-create-bootable-usb-drive-using-dd-command/10:34
xMaverick^ Best one10:34
xMaverickdd10:34
swe442I'm goign by this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/484434/install-ubuntu-without-cd-and-usb-how10:34
RoseBushello, I'm following these instructions to adjust screen brightness: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/display-brightness.html.en10:34
RoseBushowever there is no slider in that menu10:34
Markus57as xMaverick said best to use DD to make the usb key. check my link10:34
xMaverickYeah screen brightness issues are mostly driver issues10:35
xMaverickMy brightness doesn't work as well but I don't mind however it used to work on Arch after installing a few drivers10:36
RaikossHas anyone else lost their settings icon and app after upgrading?10:37
RoseBuswhen it's dark / dim in the room I like to turn down the brightness to avoid eye strain10:37
xMaverickFor my PC, I installed xf86-video-intel driver and that works. Everyone's hardware is different10:37
Markus57RoseBus try using the nightlight mode :)10:37
malte1Since upgrading to 20.04, I have intermittent connection failures, i.e. I do a search on google and it is very fast and then the second search takes ages or even times out. Ping seems to work normal, tracepath sees "No response" after a few hops. It's no issue with my local lan since other machines work fine.10:37
vijuI am getting some kind of partial upgrade issue while running software updater. When I run it either stalls (shows a blank dialog box) or shows an error - Could not calculate the upgrade this was likely caused by the unofficial software packages not supported by ubuntu please use the ppa-purge tool from ppa package to remove software....10:38
xMaverickThis does seem outdated but apparently this was the solution to a brightness issue on 16.04 https://askubuntu.com/questions/802304/help-no-brightness-slider-in-the-settings-ubuntu-16-04-desktop-with-nvidia-gtx10:38
swe442@markus57 I appreciate the help,b ut I don't have a USB drive10:38
vijuAt the end it says - it most likely is a transient problem. Please try again later.10:38
Markus57Can anyone help me with my issue. Since i have swapped to 20.04 i cant boot my Laptop with my keyboard attached. i have to unplug it everytime and then i can boot. :/10:39
vijuCould anybody help me get this resolved so that I can move on to installing 20.0410:39
sumagnai am back10:40
sumagnaso any help with the wifi connectivity?10:40
sumagnait is connected but it is not getting very powerful even when its <1m apart10:41
xMaverickIs the wifi speed fast?10:41
Markus57sumagna what are u refering to?10:41
SWE442I'm going to try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1228545/the-easiest-way-to-install-second-ubuntu-alongside-without-using-cd-usb10:41
SWE442hope it works10:42
sumagnanaah10:42
xMaverickIt's probably a driver issue10:42
xMaverickUse lspci10:42
xMaverickAnd then search online for the driver to be installed for your wifi module model10:43
xMaverickThen run lsmod and see if that driver has been loaded10:43
vitalioguys, if under 20.04 in activities you enter irc does it suggests polari ?10:45
vitalioif you use gnome shell of course10:46
BluesKajHowdy all10:46
sumagnadone lspci10:46
sumagnawhat then huh?10:47
xMaverickok look for wifi10:47
xMaverickThere should be a wifi module listed somewhere10:47
xMaverickDepends on the model, qualcomm, broadcom are common10:47
xMaverickMaybe it's listed under "Network Controller"10:48
coconutvitalio: what is your question?10:48
vitaliococonut, if you check in Activities  and in the search text box you type "irc" does Polari appears as a suggestion ?10:49
vitalioi think it was under 19.10 but not under 20.0410:49
sumagnait sometime gets full network and sometime get nearly none10:49
vitaliothe same for vinagre10:49
vitalioif i type "remote" when searching for activity Remmina appears but not vinagre10:49
coconutvitalio: so you think it should show more choices available?10:50
RoseBuswould systemctl start default.target be equivelant to systemctl start graphical.target?10:51
xMavericksumagna: What does it say under lspci for wifi10:51
vitaliococonut, well I think 19.10 was doing so10:51
sumagnabtw it is a usb wifi adapter10:52
vitalioJust a bit confused10:52
xMaverickShould have told me that earlier lol10:52
xMaverickWhat's the model name10:52
coconutvitalio: yeah well i cannot really answer you... i have not used gnome for years (i use mate or xfce)10:52
malte1anyone for my connection issue?10:53
Seveasmalte1: leave `mtr google.com` running for a while while you browse, it may point out where the problem is10:54
sumagnaxMaverick: http://termbin.com/ohrx this is the information i get from lsusb10:55
malte1Seveas: thanks, I've tried that. if I enter spiegel.de, for example, there is one hop with 100% loss10:55
Seveasonly while browsing, or really all the time?10:55
malte1currently all the time10:56
Seveas100% packet loss all the time just means that host is blocking pings, if hosts after it respond normally, I'd ignore that10:56
malte1ok that seems to be the case10:56
RoseBusspiegel.de responds to my pings10:57
RoseBusxD10:57
malte1yeah it's one of the hops in between10:57
RoseBusoh makes sense10:57
RoseBusguys i just wanna share ubuntu 20.04 feels incredibly smooth & fast10:57
RoseBuswhat a time to be alive10:58
xMavericksumagna: I'm no expert but maybe you should try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1037824/tp-link-tl-wn823n-v2-does-not-work-with-rtl8192eu-driver-on-ubuntu-16-0410:58
JimBuntusumagna: Have you verified the USB WiFI NIC works well with any other OS/Distro/computer?10:58
sumagnait works with windows at least10:59
JimBuntusumagna: right, but does it work any different and ignoring the signal display... do you have reason to suspect it's actually not working well aside from that?10:59
sumagnait just get powerful sometimes and sometime it doesnt work that well11:00
malte1so I just tried in Firefox with dev tools on, after opening Google, which went really fast, the next GET took 16s of waiting11:00
JimBuntusumagna: Do you happen to have a USB extension you can use? Have you removed and reconnected the antenna ( if it has that kind ) ?11:00
sumagnaeven when the phone whose hotspot i am using is next to the computer11:00
zvrksumagna: you using usb hub to connect mouse, keyb. and dongle11:00
sumagnanope11:01
sumagnastraight in the back of the cpu11:01
JimBuntusumagna: doesn't resolve the issue exactly... but is there a reason you are connected via wifi to a phone that close? Wouldn't you be better to USB Tether?11:01
PowerTower_120Anyone an idea, why I cannot activate the dark mode? Or any color mode? I click, nothing happens at all. Even in syslogs no entry...11:01
sumagnai am getting help from you guys through the laptop using the same net which is being used on the desktop11:02
JimBuntusumagna: and no clues in dmesg?11:03
sumagnawhat should i look for11:03
JimBuntuany messages related to the wifi dongle is about all I could say as I'm not sure what kind of output to expect related to signal strength going up and down.11:05
JimBuntuI see other people complaining about the drivers online and some use alternative drivers, but they are complaining about weak signal strength all of the time, not coming and going11:09
sumagnabtw its in 20.0411:12
vitalioanyone with gnome and 20.04 here, guys ? to test if polari appears in suggestions when searching for Activity in Activities ?11:13
CrazySamIncrease keypress repetition speed?11:23
CrazySamUbuntu 20.0411:23
CrazySamFound it.11:24
zambai'm using yamale to validate a configuration file (in yaml) against a schema.. but i have a bit of a chicken and egg problem.. because i need to specify where this schema file is.. how would you go about doing that?11:25
zambathe script is run with the configuration file as the first and only parameter11:25
zambaand for now i have just hardcoded the schema to be in the pwd of the script itself.. so to run the script from cron i have to first change to the directory of the script and then run it11:26
zambafeels a bit backwards11:26
whitekidneyQuestion, will the do-release-upgrade -d command give me the latest development release of 20.04 ?11:27
lotuspsychjewhitekidney: wich ubuntu version are you on?11:29
whitekidneylotuspsychje: 19.1011:29
swe442I'm having trouble installing 20.0411:29
swe442it is frozen on "detecting file systems..."11:29
lotuspsychjewhitekidney: 20.04 is not in development anymore, its released final11:29
lotuspsychje!upgrade | whitekidney11:30
ubottuwhitekidney: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade11:30
whitekidneylotuspsychje: Yeah, but it's not yet available as a upgrade option. I11:30
whitekidneyI'm curious as to which development build I will be installing when using the -d flag.11:30
lotuspsychje!20.04 | whitekidney check the methods here11:31
ubottuwhitekidney check the methods here: Ubuntu 20.04 (Focal Fossa) is the 32nd release of Ubuntu and is the current !LTS release. Download at Download at https://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes11:31
whitekidneylotuspsychje: None of these answer my question. I am well aware on how to upgrade. However I am unsure if I will be receiving the latest development release or some older snapshot.11:33
dwaltzwhitekidney: I understand 20.04.1 will be the 20.04 LTS11:34
lotuspsychjewhitekidney: from 19.10 there's only one way up, towards 20.0411:34
lotuspsychjeand as 20.04 is final released, thats the version you will goto11:35
whitekidneyI clearly need to rephrase my question. Will I be getting the *newest* available version of 20.04 when upgrading to the development release using the -d flag, or will it be some older snapshot?11:35
lotuspsychjewhitekidney: there is no older snapshot anymore or a development version11:36
dwaltzwhitekidney: I jsut upgraded and os-release reports VERSION="20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)" PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 20.04 LTS" VERSION_ID="20.04"11:36
lotuspsychjewhitekidney: read the releasenotes11:37
swe442how do I cancel ubuntu installation?11:37
swe442ctrl-c doesn' twork11:37
dwaltzwhitekidney: you get all the software available o the "focal-updates" channel, and you can continue to update if anything new is published. The content is the same of the iso you can already download11:42
dwaltzwhitekidney: do-release-upgrade without -d does not start becasue this https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release page was not updated yet11:44
whitekidneydwaltz: I am aware. It'll likely take them a few days11:45
CrazySamCan I upgrade 18.04 to 19.10 or do I go to 20.04?11:49
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | CrazySam11:50
ubottuCrazySam: Regular upgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS will be enabled once 20.04.1 is released in late July. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d11:50
CrazySamSo 18.04 LTS to 19.10 non-LTS is not a valid upgrade path?11:52
CrazySamThe command above will enable upgrade of 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS?11:53
lotuspsychjeCrazySam: no, its or LTS upgrade or upgrade to the next version, 18.04==>18.10 (wich is EOL)11:53
lotuspsychjeand jumping to an eol version will get you in trouble11:54
tatertotsit's not July yet11:54
tatertotsuse what you have for a little longer11:54
CrazySamI am not in a hurry, just curious how the upgrade path goes.11:54
lotuspsychjeits the user to decide that tatertots11:55
ioriaCrazySam, it is valid if you change /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades from LTS to normal11:55
CrazySamIf I change from LTS to non-LTS then I can jump from 18.04 to 19.10?11:56
ioriaCrazySam, yes,  you get eoan11:57
qwerty2hello12:07
qwerty2anybody out here?12:07
EriC^^!ask | qwerty212:09
ubottuqwerty2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:09
qwerty2okay okay. every xorg session i get into, everything just freezes. mouse, keyboard, cant even get to another tty12:12
qwerty2wayland works fine. only problem with xorg. here's a screenshot of my logs: https://postimg.cc/t7TQ6P3X12:13
ioriaqwerty2, try to boot a previous kernel12:15
qwerty2tried that in the past. didnt help. I have 2 GPUs. one intel and one nvidia. something there just breaks12:18
qwerty220-intel.conf configurations didnt seem to change much12:18
ioriaqwerty2, boot with nomodeset12:24
le_gremzHello everyone. I have a probleme with ubuntu. When i display something dark the bightness seems to reduce automaticly, if i switch to something white the brightness slowly come back to normal. How to disable this behavior please ? (I have dual-boot with windows 10 and it doesn't happen on windows)12:25
qwerty2ioria how do i do that?12:25
qwerty2sorry if this is a stupid question12:26
ioriaqwerty2, https://www.dell.com/support/article/it/it/itbsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernal-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en12:26
demonsporkle_gremz: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-autobrightness.html.en12:26
EriC^^qwerty2: grub > advanced options > recovery kernel > continue with failsafe graphics12:26
le_gremzdemonspork, already disable and seems related to inactivity. For me i work with black theme ide, and the lack of bightness is really painfull for the eyes.12:28
qwerty2eric should i do that with nomodset or without?12:29
ioriaqwerty2, one or the other12:29
gst568923Hi, I would like to upgrade from xubuntu 19.10 to 20.04 by GUI update-manager, but no new notification is shown to me. I have tried to setting "Notify for any version" and "Notify for LTS version"12:42
Ben64gst568923: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_18.04_LTS_or_19.1012:52
RoseBuswindow animations are amazing12:54
RoseBusit feels very 'maccy'12:55
lotuspsychje!discuss | RoseBus12:56
ubottuRoseBus: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!12:56
RoseBussrry12:56
aLeSDcongrats for 20.0412:56
qwerty2ioria and eric. nomodset didnt help and my grub is messed up12:57
qwerty2https://postimg.cc/G9V9JjHb https://postimg.cc/9RXcCD08 and getting in recovety mode leads my to non responding black screen with one hyphen12:58
aLeSDhow could I install the gnome-shell-extensions ?13:03
aLeSDin 20.0413:03
aLeSDand do 20.04 use wayland for default? everything is very smooth13:05
lotuspsychjeno13:05
lotuspsychjestill xorg by default13:05
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CrazySamWhen I run "sudo apt update" I get a message saying "221 packages can be upgraded." I'm confused. What does "update" vs. "upgrade" mean?13:12
plut0update downloads package information. upgrade installs the upgraded packages.13:14
CrazySamSo it "updates" the package info?13:15
lotuspsychje!uptodate | CrazySam13:16
ubottuCrazySam: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.13:16
CrazySamBut a package version 1.3 is "upgrade" to 1.4?13:16
EriC^^CrazySam: yeah13:17
EriC^^apt update just refreshes the cache of available packages/database13:17
CrazySamOK13:17
CrazySamSo patches, mini and major version changes are all "upgrades"?13:18
EriC^^yeah13:18
cgipythonhas anyone installed 20.04 on lenovo thinkpad carbon x1?13:18
lotuspsychjecgipython: best to ask your specific issue to the channel13:18
CrazySamFair enough. I guess I'm stuck in old thinking that major to major is an upgrade and minor to minor is an update.13:19
CrazySamSo how can upgrade then only the dnsutils?13:19
ducasseCrazySam: apt install dnsutils will upgrade to or install latest13:20
cgipythonwhere is the latest 20.04lts iso and instructions to burn it on a usb drive?13:21
lotuspsychje!download | cgipython13:21
ubottucgipython: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Focal, and help keeping the servers' load low!13:21
lotuspsychje!usb | cgipython13:21
ubottucgipython: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:21
CrazySamducasse: is this the same as apt-get --only-upgrade install dnsutils ?13:21
ducassebasically13:22
kenperkinsok, need some inputs on setting up a server, from a partitioning standpoint13:25
kenperkinscurrently have 50% /, 50% /home, but I feel like there's probably a better approach, for example, key configuration data for services, should that be on a different mount? (dhcpd, bind)13:26
takov751hello there i am seeking help with android-studio kvm emulation on 20.04 :)13:26
takov751I was just playing with the idea to find out if there is any bug with these packages13:27
cgipythonis liveusb the easiest way to write iso to the usb drive for install?13:29
oerhekscgipython, yes13:30
cgipythonliveusb is not available using apt install13:30
oerheks..?13:30
CrazySamIs dnsutils 9.11.3 the latest version? Or is it latest version on my 18.04 Ubuntu? How can I know this?13:31
oerheksCrazySam, check out launchpad13:31
cgipythonoerheks, how do i get liveusb on my ubuntu 18.04 ? i tried apt install usb-creator/liveusb13:31
oerhekscgipython, it is already installed on your ubuntu13:32
cgipythonoerheks, how do i invoke it from command line?13:32
oerheksand lieusb is not a package, the install iso gives a live session too13:32
oerhekshuh?13:33
cgipythonoerheks, how do i write the downloaded iso to my usb drive?13:33
oerhekssee the url lotuspsychje gave you?13:33
oerheksdownload iso, use the tool13:33
CrazySamhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind913:33
CrazySamoerheks: this?13:34
cgipythonoerheks, cool - startup disk creator then13:34
cgipythonthanks13:34
lotuspsychjekenperkins: try #ubuntu-server13:34
oerheksCrazySam, yes, that is the page13:34
kenperkinsah, ty lotuspsychje13:34
cgipythondoes my md5sum look good - > ea28c4fd933be55f9f01a5fa9e868490 - desktop 20.04 amd6413:35
CrazySamoerheks: 9.16.1 is latest dnsutils for Focal Fossa but 9.11.3 is the latest for Bionic Beaver?13:36
CrazySamSo then it's not the latest latest, but latest for my 18.04 Ubuntu.13:37
oerheksCrazySam, yes, but do not get confused by the numbers, bind9 1:9.11.3+dfsg-1ubuntu1.11 got fixes backported13:37
h00kSo, I'm on a 2015 macbook pro, and I've got  BCM43602 802.11ac [14e4:43ba], using the brcmfmac, pretty sure. I am able to connect to open wireless, but not WPA2 (which is my problem). Yes my wireless key is correct. I also don't see 43ba listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx13:37
oerhekshence the long number13:37
tphamI did a fresh install ubuntu 20.04 to my laptop (Thinkpad X1 Extreme gen 2) but the it can not detect external monitor. Seem like the package nvidia-prime does not work as expected. Does anyone have same problem?13:39
lotuspsychjecgipython: 20.04 has now built-in integrity checker13:39
oerheksh00k, maybe this answer is your fix for BCM43602 too .. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/573064/wifi-being-very-slow-not-working-for-linux-on-mac-why-wont-it-connect13:39
oerheksnewer firmware13:39
CrazySamoerheks: does that mean that 9.11.3 has all the same fixes as 9.16.1?13:40
cgipythonlotuspsychje, nice, thanks13:40
h00koerheks: ah, let me give it a shot. Thanks.13:40
CrazySamSo I am not missing out on anything?13:40
oerheksh00k, are you on RT kernel?13:40
oerheksCrazySam, yes, correct13:40
lotuspsychjeoerheks h00k there's also a known bug about Broadcom on the 20.04 releasenotes13:40
h00klotuspsychje: I didn't even check.13:41
lotuspsychjeh00k: its for the installer though13:42
h00koerheks: not that I know of. Just real stock. Installed yesterday ;)13:42
h00klotuspsychje: yeah, it also exists on the installer, as well as post-install.13:42
lotuspsychjeh00k: bug #186746513:42
ubottubug 1867465 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer disconnects wifi (after choosing download while installing, 3rd party)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186746513:42
CrazySamWhat is the meaning of "dnsutils: Transitional package for bind9-dnsutils" ?13:43
qwerty2anyone has an idea about the freezing xorg?13:46
YeOldHinnerkhi. I have a server with ubuntu 18.04 in my lan, no access from outside (will allow later on access via vpn, but not ready yet). Now I wonder on how to go best about adding ssl to my apache2 server. any recommendations?13:48
lotuspsychjeYeOldHinnerk: you could consider #ubuntu-server if you like13:48
YeOldHinnerkessentially, I need this for nextcloud, which i already installed.13:48
YeOldHinnerkok13:48
h00koerheks: unfortunately, that didn't do er13:53
h00klemme try one more reboot13:53
WanderingWizardPHello there .o. I have this strange issue... I am on Ubuntu 20.04, whenever I start torrenting with transmission my system experience short freezes from time to time and my network and bluetooth cuts out for a couple of seconds. Has anyone else experienced something like this?13:54
SeveasWanderingWizardP: anything useful in dmesg or the journal for those blips?13:55
WanderingWizardPSeveas: Need to reproduce the issue, will report back.13:59
SeveasWanderingWizardP: ok! I torrented all day yesterday on 20.04 and didn't notice any such thing, so if it still happens, let's see what's different between our systems.14:00
qwerty2https://postimg.cc/t7TQ6P3X anyone seeing here a connection to xorg session paralysing any means of input?14:04
h00koerheks: neg. I'll keep looking.14:06
CrazySamAre LTS incremental releases made every 6 months?14:11
CrazySam18.04.1 was release 3 months after 18.04. But 18.04.2, 18.04.3 and 18.04.4 were released about 6 months inbetween.14:12
pavlosll14:13
pavlossorry14:13
CrazySamThis seems to be in line with 20.04 released yesterday, with 20.04.1 coming up in about 3 months.14:13
CrazySam!upgrade14:14
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade14:14
WanderingWizardPSeveas: It has occured a few times now. I'm not very good at extracting information from the logs, but there doesn't seem to be anything at the time of the incident...14:14
WanderingWizardPSeveas: And my system doesn't seem to completely freeze, only the network and bluetooth cuts out and any music I am listening to seem to skip as well.14:15
WanderingWizardPSeveas: I do see some "[UFW BLOCK] IN=wlp60s0 OUT= MAC=" in the logs, but those doesn't seem to be related time wise...14:17
RoseBusplz help i installed libboost-python-dev but it's still not working  https://bpaste.net/J5FQ14:22
RoseBusoh wait14:23
RoseBusi needed program-options14:23
RoseBusnvm14:23
h00koerheks: I'm not sure I'm in luck: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10020114:25
ubottubugzilla.kernel.org bug 100201 in network-wireless "brcmfmac: Can cause constant kernel oops / complete machine freezes (on MacbookPro12,1 2015 edition: Device 43ba 14e4:43ba (rev 01))" [Normal,New]14:25
xheimlichI'm on Ubuntu 18.something LTS, but not using the built-in Gnome. I'm stuggling with keeping laptop touchpad tap-to-click enabled.14:28
xheimlichevery time I learn how to do it with xinput. but the next time it doesn't work. the device number has changed, and I believe the property number too.14:29
DavidJOwensI'm getting a Panda PAU06 USB wifi adapter to add wifi to a desktop machine.  What do I need to do to get it working?  Just plug it in?14:30
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xheimlichalso: where should I add other commands so they start *with* the computer and not the wm? Maybe it's just that spectrwm is flaky somehow but it seems other settings (redshift, wallpaper) are also not keeping between reboots.14:31
xMaverickGonna try ubuntu mate14:35
xMaverickDavidJOwens: Well it depends. If the drivers are already installed then yes just plug it in. If not you're gonna have to install the drivers14:35
CrazySamIs it true that 18.04.0 is supported to 2022 while 18.04.4 is only supported to 2020?14:38
urthNo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases14:39
CrazySamOops! I was looking at the kernel support lifecycle.14:40
CrazySamOK so 18.04.4 is good for 2023?14:41
kostkonCrazySam, y14:41
CrazySamAnd so is 18.04.0?14:42
CrazySamApril 2023. Is that when all of 18.04 branch will reach EOL?14:42
kostkonCrazySam, yes. although there'd be extended paid support till 202814:43
CrazySamThese incremental upgrades are not necessary to keep the release up-to-date?14:43
CrazySamYes, I would expect paid support to be extended.14:44
fSharphello, I cant upgrade from 19.04. I tried online posts but didnt work, in which I edit sources.list...updater shows "upgrade" but nothing happens when I select it.14:46
kostkonCrazySam, point releases typically mean a refreshed iso with all the previous updates/fixes and a newer kernel backported from later releases for better hardware support14:46
CrazySamI just upgraded an old box from 18.04.1 to 18.04.4. No harm done. But it's good to know that even the older 18.04.0 has support all the way up to 2023.14:46
binderis there a tool that would would let me get a list of packages from a 16.04 server that are installed, copy it over to a 20.04 server and install the updated versions of them? dpkg-query explicitly lists versions like php7.0 and I don't want that, i want the latest of everything14:46
Rumenhi14:46
Rumenanyone knows how to install libssl1.0.0 on 20.04 LTS?14:47
Rumenwithout that Viber can not be installed14:47
binderit has to be libssl1.0.0?14:48
bindercould you symlink libssl1.1 to 1.0.0?14:48
grawitythey're incompatible, that's kinda why they got separate packages in the first place14:49
CrazySambinder: but is libssl1.1 backwards compatible with libssl1.0.0?14:49
grawityso symlinking has a high chance of the thing just crashing14:49
fSharpcan I somehow upgrade from 19.04?14:49
ioriaRumen, why don't you use the snap version ?14:50
bindergood question, rumen it appears if you install aws-cli it i nstalls libssl1.0.014:50
CrazySam!ubuntu-support-status14:51
Rumenviber has no snap install version, aws-cli gives error15:02
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Guest71879I have a Dell XPS 13 (9343) and when I use the webcam its black and white... I am on 20.04 LTS15:03
Guest71879(The integrated one)15:06
takov751hello ther15:07
takov751e15:08
takov751i am looking for help15:08
lordcirth__takov751, welcome. Please ask your question15:08
takov751the android-studio does depends for hardware accelerated emulation on the kvm and ubuntu-vm-builder packages.15:08
takov751ia32-libs-multiarch15:08
takov751as well15:09
takov751however in 20.04 i havent found the last two packages15:09
takov751for the ia32 there is a replacement15:09
takov751however i cant find any other option for ubuntu-vm-builder15:09
kenperkinswhat's the installer called and where do you search for bugs in the installer15:11
tonytanyone notice on 20.04 how hexchat take alot longer to load?15:11
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lordcirth__tonyt, did you install it as a snap?15:17
fSharphello, I cant upgrade from 19.04. I tried online posts but didnt work, in which I edit sources.list...updater shows "upgrade" but nothing happens when I select it.15:18
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ioriafSharp, can you paste your sources.list ?15:20
fSharpioria, here it is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nhb8NQbSYk/15:22
fSharpI just modified it following some online posts to solve the problem15:22
fSharphence the old releases lines15:22
ioriafSharp, and what  sudo apt update  gives you ?15:23
AbsoluteHow do I run something like node mycrawler.js daily?15:24
grawitycrontab15:24
AbsoluteI tried setting up a cronjob but I don't know how to run it15:25
AbsoluteI mean15:25
fSharpioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TfnbtRXD9X/15:25
pavlosAbsolute: add it in /etc/cron.daily/15:25
ioriafSharp,  sudo apt full-upgrade15:25
AbsoluteI tried this way @daily -u map /home/map/mycrawler.js15:25
Absolutebut I need to run "node mycrawler.js"15:26
grawityhmm I'm not familiar with the "-u map" part15:26
pavlosls15:26
luna_-a15:26
Absolutejust some user thing, irrelevant @daily /home/map/mycrawler.js15:26
Absolutebut just running the .js doesn't work, I have to run "node script.js"15:27
Absoluteso I'm lost to set a daily cron15:27
fSharpioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/z3kMfjh7Xx/15:27
tonyt<lordcirth__> no. iinstalled it from the terminal15:28
ioriafSharp,  apt-cache policy calf-plugins15:28
johnfghi folks15:28
pavlosAbsolute: make a file crawl in /etc/cron.daily,  make it exec,  add to the file "node /home/map/mycrawler.js" (w/o quotes15:29
johnfgI was going to upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04 LTS, but Software & Updates, even after running 'update-manager -c -d', isn't seeing the new version.15:29
johnfgAnd this command is timing out: sudo /usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/check-new-release-gtk15:30
EriC^^johnfg: what does "grep -i prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" give you?15:30
Absolutepavlos, I did this already, thing is I can't seem to run the script without putting node in front on the line15:31
Absolutemycrawler.js doesn't work15:31
Absolutenode mycrawler.js works15:31
johnfgPrompt=lts15:31
Absoluteoh nvm15:31
Absolutethanks pavlos15:32
howarthI used 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d '15:32
EriC^^johnfg: try howarth 's command15:32
EriC^^johnfg: are you sure the internet connection is working well? "sudo apt update" works for instance?15:33
howarthhttps://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-to-20-04-lts-focal-fossa15:33
fSharpioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hyPPDtzM82/15:33
johnfgAm doing.  Got this though: Connection to Snap Store failed.  And a bit more.  Continue anyway?15:34
ioriafSharp,  0.0.60-5 is for bionic , idk why you have it installed; maybe you can purge it15:35
johnfgLooks like it's working.  Thanks guys.  Any idea why the others failed?15:35
fSharpioria, purged15:35
h00koerheks: I gave up for a bit on my wifi issue - still didn't get any results. Thanks again15:35
h00k!cookie | oerheks15:35
ubottuoerheks: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!15:35
ioriafSharp,  sudo apt full-upgrade again15:36
johnfgEriC^^: sorry, I missed your last.  Yes, apt update works fine, told me all was up-to-date for 19.10.15:37
johnfgBut howarth's cmd is working; just with that snap warning.15:37
fSharpioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MDSmXBfhRR/15:38
ioriafSharp,  so, you want to upgrade to 19.10 ?15:39
ibuclawAfternoon, has anyone tried upgrade pass from 18.04->20.04 with lvm+full disk encryption yet? I'm welcomed by a busybox prompt post-upgrade - it doesn't look like luks has been baked into initrd, so it can't find any volume groups.  Just about to boot up from usb...15:40
fSharpthis is another problem..getting disconnected lately...hope it gets fixed too when I can finally upgrade15:41
ioriafSharp,  so, you want to upgrade to 19.10 ?15:42
electricityZZZZany guides for cuda on ubuntu 20.04? i installed the cuda-toolkit and nvcc seems to work, and now i'm trying to get cudnn to work. look like nvidia hasn't yet released any ubuntu 20.04 packages15:42
fSharpioria yes15:42
ioriafSharp,  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades15:42
howarthThe actually was a snap related fix in focal-proposed-updates15:43
howarthhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/1:20.04.1015:43
howarthupdate-manager (1:20.04.10) focal; urgency=medium15:44
howarth  * Fix intermittent hang during snap updates (LP: #1874469).15:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1874469 in update-manager (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] update-manger intermittently hangs during snap updates" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187446915:44
PeGaSuSis it kinda safe to use Gparted from a live usb to shrink a partition and create a new one to host a Windows system?15:48
fSharpsorry this disconnection again15:48
fSharpioria if you posted recently could you please repost it?15:49
ioriafSharp,  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades15:49
fSharpioria the output is 'Prompt=normal'15:50
ioriafSharp,  what happens if you run 'do-release-upgarde' ?15:50
zvrkPeGaSuS: don't do it if you want to have your windows healthy15:51
PeGaSuSzvrk: could you explain more?15:51
ioriafSharp,  kill it, as soon as you get the release file (if you get it)15:51
fSharpioria, now something is progressing15:52
fSharpafter 'do-release-upgrade'15:52
d1g1ta1Any way to speed up cellular modem performance over Bluetooth connection?  It's a 16M link, runs 10M USB tether, 4M+ through the Ubuntu 16 gateway (wired or Bluetooth), would like to get 8M ideally.  Read that iptables might nick 10%, but that's a far cry from 50%+.15:52
ioriafSharp,  yes, typo sy15:52
zvrkPeGaSuS: just shrink windows with disk managment and make free space for ubuntu15:53
ioriafSharp,  if you get 'eoan', stop it, purge the flatpak ppa, and then proceed15:54
howarthIf you the dist-upgrade got you to focal, try focal-updates-proposed and see if that fix to update-manager fixes the snap problem15:54
zvrkPeGaSuS: before shrink maybe you need defragment windows to put all files to one side of patrition15:55
EriC^^PeGaSuS: you mean to shrink the ubuntu partition for windows?15:55
johnfgHow much difference would you say there is between ubuntu-server and debian?15:56
PeGaSuSEriC^^: yes. I need to shrink it to create a partition to install windows. I guess that I'll need to reinstall grub right after that?15:57
EriC^^PeGaSuS: yup15:57
EriC^^PeGaSuS: you'll need to shrink it from a live usb15:57
EriC^^it's relatively safe, but you should have backups of your important stuff as always, who knows15:58
fSharpioria, sorry disconnected again...upgrade seems to be underway https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7GXTg26T3d/15:58
PeGaSuSEriC^^: yes, I've already booted from the live USB and backups in place :D15:58
EriC^^:D15:58
zvrkPeGaSuS: oh sorry didn't understood you well15:58
PeGaSuSzvrk: no problem. and yes, I know Windows is very picky when it is already installed15:59
fSharpioria, thank you so much!16:00
ioriafSharp,  ok16:00
fSharphi EriC^^, how are you?16:01
EriC^^fSharp: hi, good thanks, you?16:01
zvrkPeGaSuS: why installing this way you know that windows like to be on first place of hardrive16:01
fSharpthank you, good, too16:01
fSharpEriC^^ ^16:02
PeGaSuSzvrk: because I already have Ubuntu installed since 2018 in the laptop and I don't want to mess with it. so installing Windows and then recovering GRUB seems the logical step16:02
fSharpioria, just wondering what made it work...was it the last grep command you posted?16:03
johnfgI don't mean to be a bother, with a polling type question, but am thinking of changing my primary server from debian to ubuntu-server-20.0416:04
ioriafSharp,  i don't think so16:05
zvrkPeGaSuS: ok to make easier to recover grub use supergrub iso to find ubuntu and boot up system with ubuntu16:05
zvrkPeGaSuS: once you boot up just grub-update16:06
Gorro_Rojohi! I need some help, have been searching everywhere cand couldn't find an answer. I'm attempting to install Armory, and the error i get is "Dependency is not satisfiable: python (>=2.6)".i'm not sure what i'm supposed to install, i already have python 2.7 and python 3.16:06
PeGaSuSzvrk: no more USB drives to install anything. so I'll use the old method: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows :)16:07
fSharpioria, something must have made it worked along the way, then..anyway, glad it has. thank you again...bye!16:09
ioriafSharp,  no prob16:10
PeGaSuSI guess that just issuing grub-install /dev/sda and update-grub should work?16:10
johnfgThanks again for the help folks!16:11
PeGaSuSGorro_Rojo: probably missing dependencies? pike python3-dev and python-dev?16:14
PeGaSuSno idea though16:14
electricityZZZZso, fresh ubuntu 20 install on (encrypted) ZFS. im using this machine as a desktop, and just copied a couple of 400 mb files while streaming some music on youtube.... my music got interrupted for like half a second :/ it's a quad core xeon workstation from a couple years ago so it should be plenty performant...16:14
Gorro_RojoPeGaSuS, no luck :s16:17
JoeMeritold slow harddrive ?16:17
zvrkPeGaSuS: Gorro_Rojo need old python version 2.616:17
ioriaGorro_Rojo, is that Armory an ubuntu package ?16:17
electricityZZZZit's a ssd,...16:17
Gorro_Rojoioria, yes, a .deb file16:17
electricityZZZZi'm thinking something more complex than that, maybe zfs and linux haven't really finished playing nice with each other?16:17
ioriaGorro_Rojo, ok, .deb pkg does not mean 'ubuntu package';    run this  : dpkg -l python16:18
ircmehi guys. I just upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 all looks fine. although ubuntu software is gone, after I received a pop asking duplicate package ubuntu software. I removed and pufff. Ubuntu software is gone from the task bar but if I go through the applications, doesn't open anyays. Any clue?16:19
Gorro_Rojoioria oh alright, it print's out python 2.716:19
electricityZZZZircme: always install from scratch16:19
electricityZZZZircme: forget about everything else16:19
ioriaGorro_Rojo, can i see the output ? and what release are you on ?16:20
ircme@electricityZZZZ, :( that's a bit... not convinient let's say16:20
ircmebut thanks for the advice ;)16:20
electricityZZZZircme: if you are lucky someone will help you and you will follow their advice, and then as you get into it, 9 times out of 10 it won't work out. so don't bother16:21
electricityZZZZircme: copy your data to an external drive and start fresh16:21
ircmeyeah you just gave me a plan for the weekend lol (unfortunatly)16:22
Gorro_Rojoioria sure thing, this is the output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jgKSm6Q5q2/ i'm on 20.0416:22
ioriano python ppkg on 20.04 Gorro_Rojo , sorry16:22
PeGaSuSircme: I believe that the problem is easily solvable. just wait for someone with more knowledge to get to you16:22
ioriaGorro_Rojo, and 'rc' mean removed16:23
ioria!info python focal16:23
ubottuPackage python does not exist in focal16:23
Gorro_Rojooh dang16:23
Gorro_Rojowell thank you very much ioria, i'll look into that then16:24
zvrk!info python3 focal16:24
ubottupython3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.8.2-0ubuntu2 (focal), package size 46 kB, installed size 189 kB16:24
invrahow do i search for available kernels?16:24
ioriaGorro_Rojo, i'am sure there is a way to do that, but not in the ubuntu way; you're welcm16:24
electricityZZZZyeah so, copying a 500MB file on ZFS reliably interrupts my music.16:27
PeGaSuSircme: when you try to open the Ubuntu Software it just doesn't open or there's some kind of error displayed?16:29
ircme@PeGaSuS, I get the cursor spinning for few seconds and then does nothing16:30
PeGaSuSircme: did you tried to `apt install --reinstall gnome-software`? I assume you're talking about the Software Center16:32
cyphrackI'm getting hash sum mismatch when trying to apt update on a fresh ubuntu 20.04 install16:33
ircme@PeGaSuS,  yes I tried that just few minutes ago. although didn't restart the machine, but I think isn't needed anyways16:33
ircmestill the same16:34
cyphrackalready tried clearing /var/lib/apt/lists/* and with different repos, same issue16:34
PeGaSuSircme: old but might be useful (if you fall in any of those categories): https://www.maketecheasier.com/ubuntu-software-center-not-working-fixes/16:37
xheimlichthereś an expersexchange.com vibe to that url. it seems like a mispelling of cheesier.16:38
ircme@PeGaSuS, I was reading that same article. Was from there that I find out the command you sent me. Thanks ;)16:38
PeGaSuSircme: sorry, but I can't help any further :/16:39
ircmeno problem, thanks ;)16:39
binderso I asked this earlier and got sidetracked, didn't see a response:16:40
binderis there a tool that would would let me get a list of packages from a 16.04 server that are installed, copy it over to a 20.04 server and install the updated versions of them? dpkg-query explicitly lists versions like php7.0 and I don't want that, i want the latest of everything16:40
grawitythat's part of the package name though16:42
grawitynot sure if good but there's `apt-mark showauto` – if you installed "php" and it dragged in "php7.0" then it'll only list the former16:42
ibuclawExcellent looks like there's a bug in the 20.04 upgrade scripts. https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/solved-focal-20-04-init-premount-fails/92616:42
Mordocbinder: I think you'd have to do a mix of the output of apt list --installed and some parsing of that list to get to just the raw package names without version references16:46
eelstreboranyone know why settings->software&updates is saying that my wireless card isn't working even though it is (ubuntu 20.04)16:46
lotuspsychjeeelstrebor: wich chipset would that be?16:52
ibuclawAnd here's the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/187361416:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1873614 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Definition of add_mountroot_fail_hook doesnt match lvm2's usage" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:53
zutatdoes 20.04 support gpu switching out of the box on supported systems?17:02
jcduttonHas 20.04 been pulled?  do-release-upgrade does not find it.17:02
binder18.04 to 20- upgrades probably won't be until july?17:04
housecatjcdutton: are you on 19.10 or 18.04?17:05
jcduttonYes17:05
housecatsorry, i was wondering which17:05
jcdutton18.0417:06
housecatubottu: ltsupgrade | jcdutton17:06
ubottujcdutton: Regular upgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS will be enabled once 20.04.1 is released in late July. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d17:06
bindermurdoc: dpkg-query -f '${binary:Package}\n' -W kinda gives me a good list17:06
jcduttonthe -d does not work17:06
housecatodd, it should do. does it just say there's no release available?17:07
lotuspsychjezutat: we cant generalize that, cause there are different hybrid cards out there, best to ask your specific issue to the channel17:07
jcduttonUpgrades to the development release are only17:07
jcduttonavailable from the latest supported release.17:07
BluesKajperhaps the bot is out of date17:08
housecatjcdutton: what does the Prompt= line say in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ?17:08
housecatBluesKaj: the bot matches my current understanding of things, it is entirely possible that understanding is out of date?17:08
jcduttonhousecat, I tried normal and lts.  Both have the same problem17:08
housecats/?/ :)/17:08
BluesKajshouldn't need -d17:09
housecatBluesKaj: until the first point release, you do17:09
BluesKajreally ?17:09
housecatyes17:09
BluesKajnever heard that before17:09
housecatjcdutton: you tried do-release-upgrade -d while Prompt=lts is set on 18.04 and it gave you that "latest supported release" message?17:09
jcduttonI found that focal is not listed on changelogs.ubunut.com   Could that be why17:10
housecatjcdutton: with the config i just mentioned it pulls from https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-development , where it is17:10
woenxHi. I am trying to install a software to control my laptop fan speed. In the past I used Notebook Fan Control (https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc), but now I wanted to try fancontrol as it is better integrated with the system17:11
woenxhowever, sensors-detect does not detect any pwm-capable sensor17:11
jcduttonwith prompt lts, and -d,  I get:   Upgrades to the development release are only17:11
jcduttonavailable from the latest supported release.17:11
jcduttonCorrection: Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.17:12
woenxany ideas?17:12
jcduttonI have install all available updates. It would be nice if it told me what is missing17:12
cyphrackI'm getting hash sum mismatch when trying to apt update on a fresh ubuntu 20.04 install17:12
lotuspsychjecyphrack: can you pastebin the whole apt output please?17:13
housecatjcdutton: can you pastebin the entire output from sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?17:13
eelstreborlotuspsychje, intel ac926017:14
lotuspsychjeeelstrebor: i have the same, but wifi works anyway17:16
zvrkwoenx: did you install 'lm-sensors'17:16
woenxzvrk: yes17:16
woenxI can see a lot of temperatures, but no fan speed17:16
Hamiltonapt update and upgrade doesn't automatically upgrade to 20.04 right?17:16
woenxNotebook Fan Control must see the fan speed somewhere else17:16
jcduttonhousecat, sorry I cannot do that. It just points to a repo mirror. that has use apt-mirror to grab it from the internet17:17
jcduttonIts ok, I will just wait till July17:18
housecatjcdutton: *nod* i have no idea how that would interact with things, sorry :(17:18
Haxxawhy does ubuntu report this: 7 hours with a 56k modem - who the heck is using a 56k modem?17:19
HamiltonHaxxa, still many people17:20
kyle__Haxxa: sadly a lot of folks have no better option in rural areas.17:20
kyle__Good thing the FCC lets telco & cable companies charge _every_ customer a fee for infrastructure upgrades... that they never do17:21
InspectorCluseauIf I had to go back to dial-up I would go satellite. DSL is just barely acceptable.17:22
cyphracklotuspsychje: here is the apt update output https://pastebin.com/KUjvDf2417:22
lotuspsychjecyphrack: wich iso/flavour are you on please?17:23
cyphrackUbuntu 20.04 LTS, fresh install, downloaded ISO an hour ago17:24
lotuspsychjecyphrack: ok, can you come join at #ubuntu-mirrors and report with your pastebin?17:24
CrazySamWhat is 1ubuntu1.1 indicating?17:26
pringlescanHello, I'm struggling to use the Ryzen platform (read: boot/install) with an AMD Navi GPU on 20.04 LTS without disabling virtualization and security features. It appears that there were patches from 2017 that may not have been submitted/applied: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/146519/17:27
zvrkjcdutton: did you check settings --Software & Updates is set to notify for long term support versions if yes try to change to notify me for any new version17:27
housecatzvrk: that's equivalent to Prompt=normal, which we already discussed17:29
pringlescanI don't mind applying manual patches, however, I'm concerned that less technical users are needlessly pulling their hair out and it'd be a sin for the latest LTS not to support AMD hardware out of the box.17:29
pringlescanIs there a Ubuntu/Debian sanctioned way to keep these kernel patches applied without turning off kernel updates?17:31
zvrk!info kernel focal17:33
ubottuPackage kernel does not exist in focal17:33
zvrk!info kernel-generic focal17:34
ubottuPackage kernel-generic does not exist in focal17:34
lotuspsychjelinux-image-generic zvrk17:34
zvrklotuspsychje: thanks17:34
zvrk!info linux-image-generic focal17:35
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.26.32 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 17 kB17:35
Sonolinany reason why Ubuntu 18.04 hasn't updated their apache2 version?17:38
zvrkpringlescan: wait to linux-image-generic version 5.5 it will support it17:38
SonolinAccording to https://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_24.html there are multiple vulnerabilities in the current version (2.4.29) that are fixed in 2.4.4117:38
zetheroo1When Chrome is first opened there is a Chrome icon in the right-side of the top bar, but after the screen locking and/or suspend the icon disappears. (18.04)17:40
lotuspsychjeeelstrebor: if you want, file a bug about this and ill help affecting it17:42
Sonolinnobody knows huh? Is there a place I can ask about Ubuntu security updates? I mean, we're on a LTS release which should be supported until ~202317:51
wangledorfHello! One of my machines is still running 19.04 and I'd like to update it to 20.04; however, apt commands are all failing due to 404 as I believe the repositories I have configured are no longer valid17:51
lordcirthcorrect, disco repos are archived17:51
cyverisSonolin: Security fixes generally get backported from newer versions. The version of the package itself doesn't change.17:51
wangledorfAre there instructions somewhere I can follow to get that resolved?17:52
Sonolinyea I get that, but I'm hoping for more documentation of that for the client since they are specifically pointing to the version number17:52
lotuspsychje!eolupgrade | wangledorf17:52
ubottuwangledorf: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:52
cyverisSonolin: Then tell them to stop pointing to the version number. If there's a specific vulnerability they want to know about, there are Ubuntu security advisories.17:53
cyverisSonolin: See 'usn.ubuntu.com'.17:53
Sonolinright, but how do I tell for sure this instance has patched out those security vulnerabilities?17:53
lotuspsychjewangledorf: its not really adviced due !usn security flaw since then, more reccomended is clean install a supported version17:53
SonolinI'm not just going to ignore them17:53
cyverisSonolin: I never said to do so. Is there a specific CVE you can give as an example?17:54
lordcirthSonolin, the Ubuntu advisory will show that the CVE has been patched in your release17:54
wangledorflotuspsychje: Unfortunately clean install isn't an option as I'm working from home and so I don't have physical access to the machine17:54
wangledorfCould probably install the arch way with chroot or something but I don't want to botch that17:54
Sonolinthanks lordcirth I will look there17:54
lotuspsychjewangledorf: we try to advice to upgrade before the ubuntu version goes eol17:55
cyverisSonolin: You're welcome.17:55
wangledorfYea, I just have a handful of machines/VMs so it's easy to miss updates on one17:55
Sonolin...somebody has an ego problem17:55
* cyveris points above where he directed you to usn.ubuntu.com :)17:56
lotuspsychjewangledorf: its your machine, your choice to eolupgrade17:57
Kryuna:)17:58
woenxHow do you install the package pip in ubuntu 20.04? (to install python packages from a repository)17:59
woenxI tried python3-pip, but doesn17:59
woenx't work18:00
woenx(cannot find command 'pip')18:00
woenxah, ok, it's pip3 now18:00
cyveriswoenx: Is the module available as an apt-installable package?18:00
grkblood13is there a way to use the split command to split on duration instead of size?18:02
grkblood13I have a pipe I want to split every N seconds18:02
jattmounting cifs partitions started to fail after a focal upgrade this week, the error log says18:04
jatt[ 1026.700518] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -218:04
jattis this a known problem?18:04
CrazySamWhat version of dnsutils came before 1:9.11.4+dfsg-3ubuntu5.418:04
sarnoldgrkblood13: as far as I know the utility you want doesn't exist18:04
ibuclawUgh, looks like its a combination of two things. 1) initramfs support for cryptsetup has been moved to cryptsetup-initramfs, and it is *not* installed during the upgrade process.  2) the names of LUKS devices have changed between 18.04 -> 20.04, and it fails to detect the encrypted disks on boot until fixed and update-initramfs -u -k all.18:04
grkblood13well that sucks18:05
ibuclawWas "sda3_crypt", now it's "luks-{uuid}".  Updated /etc/crypttab, now system is bootable.18:06
jattit also says,18:06
jatt[ 3222.539985] CIFS VFS:  BAD_NETWORK_NAME: \\machine\c$18:06
jatt 18:06
eelstreborlotuspsychje, already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/185930818:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1859308 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "software-properties-gtk erroneously reports that Intel Wireless-AC 9260 device is not working" [Low,Confirmed]18:10
lotuspsychjeah thank you eelstrebor18:10
lotuspsychjeaffected18:10
jattthis is the kernel log with cifs debug enabled:18:13
jatthttp://dpaste.com/2PTAGRB18:13
jattany ideas what could be the problem?18:13
jattit worked a few days ago, I've been upgrading focal regularly so I don't know what package broke it18:14
RumenAnyone got problem with MegaSync under 20.04? Segmentation fault?18:16
sarnoldif jatt returns, this looks important:18:20
sarnold[ 3555.874766] CIFS VFS:  BAD_NETWORK_NAME: \\machine\c$18:20
sarnoldhttps://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/windows_protocols/ms-cifs/8f11e0f3-d545-46cc-97e6-f00569e3e1bc18:21
bratchleyhow do I get cloud-init to forget an IP address? I cloned from another VM in libvirt but apparently cloud-init is specifically requesting the IP from the old VM on this version of the VM18:25
bratchleyI've tried "cloud-init clean" and rebooting but it still gets that same .119 IP address18:26
johnjayhow do I get my hard drives off the Favorites?18:42
johnjayi looked at most of the Settings but didn't see anything.18:42
ioriajohnjay, gsettings get org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock show-mounts18:45
johnjayioria: ok done. i assume i have to logout for it to take effect?18:51
ioriajohnjay, done what ?18:52
johnjayi entered the command and hit enter18:53
ioriaand ?18:53
johnjayso do i logout or should it be instant?18:53
iorianope, what's the output ?18:53
johnjayboth my extra drives are still there on the Favorites18:53
oerheksyes, logout/login for that new setting18:53
johnjaynone. it succeeded18:53
ioriajohnjay, that command returns false or true18:54
johnjayum. in bash and most unix-descended systems 0 return of a process means success. usually indicated by no output18:55
johnjayecho $? returns 0. so it succeeded18:55
dr`venomMy Scarlett 18i6 audio interface is recognized and when I just login the meter on sound settings shows audio. However, I have no audio. This audio interface was working perfectly on ubuntu 19.10.18:56
johnjaydr`venom: i always have problems with ubuntu switching to my headphones constantly18:58
johnjaydid you double check teh sounds settings to make sure it has it selected?18:58
dr`venomYes, I checked under sound settings and it is selected.18:58
johnjayoh well then it's the cursed land of pulseaudio for you then18:58
johnjaygood luck18:59
dr`venomIf I switch to the hdmi output I get sound through my monitor, but when I switch back to scarlett I get no sound.18:59
dr`venomThanks.18:59
dr`venomI guess I might have to go back to 19.10 or the previous LTS.18:59
johnjayif you can find someone skilled in the ways of linux audio you can probably fix it19:02
johnjaybut such wizards are only found in the remote outskirts of irc, in places few mortals dare to tread19:02
dr`venomI figured it might be something simple since it has worked 100% on the previous ubuntu releases.19:02
gildartsAnyone know why `do-release-upgrade -c` wouldn't be showing any updates available for my server? Was hoping to get on an LTS and then stick to it.19:11
oerhekstry the -d option .. not sure, you might get Groovy Gorilla ?19:13
gildartsYeah, not going to risk that flag on my server.19:14
housecatyou would not get Groovy19:14
sarnoldgildarts: there's prompts along the way..19:14
sarnoldan dI don';t think it'd get you groovy any way https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5mGSSzzpgR/19:15
lordcirthOnce 20.04.1 is out, you won't need -d19:15
housecatdo-release-upgrade -d will upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 until at least the release at 20.04.1 in late July19:15
housecat(at which point the -d is unnecessary, as lordcirth said)19:15
housecatrelease of*19:15
gildartsAh, okay. Thanks19:15
MrSassyPantsI believe I am experiencing a data corruption on my bulk data HDD. It fails to mount and fdisk reports the label as 'd^Ata' instead of 'data', gparted says "e2label: Superblock checksum does not match superblock while trying to open"19:20
oerheksis s.m.a.r.t. capable to read form that disk?19:21
MrSassyPantsyes19:21
oerheksis it bad?19:21
MrSassyPantsI'm not sure, probably not19:21
oerheksi mean, high number of failing sectors something?19:22
MrSassyPantssmart reports "old age" mostly19:22
MrSassyPants(the drive would be almost 10 years old at this point)19:22
lordcirth10 years is old. You have backups?19:23
dan01hi, my laptop is behaving as if no OS is installed, however if I boot fro live-stick I can see and boot into my system as an entry in grub.19:23
MrSassyPantsIt's a low priority drive, I lost all data on it due to a windows install recently, nothing's on there that's critical or can't be replaced19:23
lordcirthdan01, sounds like maybe grub didn't install properly?19:23
dan01I've booted into the system and tried update-grub and grub-install /dev/sda, but nothing19:23
dan01lordcirth: yeah19:23
MrSassyPantsadditional information: windows 10 install will write on seemingly empty drives (unpartitioned, but in actuality encrypted) ruining the encryption19:24
EriC^^dan01: are you booted into the system right now19:25
johnfghi folks19:26
lordcirthMrSassyPants, yet another good reason to always partition the drive and encrypt the partition instead19:26
lordcirthjohnfg, hi19:26
oerhekswb johnfg19:26
johnfgwith either ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-server, is there any problem with installing /boot on lvm?19:26
johnfgoerheks: Thanks!19:26
MrSassyPantsI suppose. I ran the system for a decade without a windows and found a partitionless drive more aesthetically pleasing19:27
johnfgMy home system upgraded to 20.04 fine!19:27
johnfgNow, I'd like to install server on this machine at the office, but it's stopping after I do manual partitioning.19:27
oerheksthere are special cases with LVM .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes19:27
johnfgoerheks: I'm checking that out now, thanks!19:28
oerheksno, ZFS, something different19:29
oerheksZFS installation fails to boot if there are existing pools named bpool or rpool on a second drive (bug 1867007).19:29
ubottubug 1867007 in systemd (Ubuntu) "zfs-initramfs fails with multiple rpool on separate disks" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186700719:29
woenxHey, can someone help me troubleshoot why autofs is not mounting a remote ssh location?19:31
woenxI have succesfully shared my key, and I can login without password to the server19:31
woenxI have installed sshfs19:31
woenxbut I cannot access my share which should appear in /media/sshfs19:32
woenxand I don't know why (I've done that process like 5 times, and I always find some issue...)19:32
oerheksi think you want to mount it in /mnt/ as /media/  is for removable devices19:32
lordcirthwoenx, does mounting it manually work?19:33
lordcirthAlso, I would use x-systemd.automount rather than autofs19:33
woenxwell, it will unmount it automatically when idle, so it's kind of removable...19:33
woenxlordcirth: yes, manually mounting it works just fine19:33
woenxand I am mounting it using the root password (which is supposed to be the one which uses autofs)19:34
lordcirthThen it's probably a problem with autofs syntax. Just try x-systemd.automount in fstab19:34
woenxMmm, no, it has to be something else, I just copied and pasted the configuration files from my previous installation (I did a clean install last night)19:35
woenxOk, i'll check19:35
spydonHello, does anyone know how to change the session type in 20.04? Before I could click the cog wheel and change to xmonad on the login screen.19:35
woenxwill  x-systemd.automount mount the "partition" only when it's going to be accessed?19:36
CleggerelHaving a bit of an issue, got a webcam, a fairly old logitech one, and Guvcview is picking up the video stream ok and I can see the device name when I lsusb, but it refuses to show a picture in any other application. The pathname to it is /dev/video1. Any ideas?19:36
CleggerelI can only assume it's UVC compatible to some extent given it works with guvcview (and vlc)19:37
dan01EriC^^: I'a a firend of mines asking for him19:37
dan01EriC^^: please go ahead19:38
johnfgoerheks: Not really seeing anything in the release notes about the special case for lvm.19:38
ngkimHello! I experience performance issues when running low on RAM, and I've heard ZFS may be the reason for it. Is there an easy way to migrate to something different, i.e. ext4?19:39
lordcirthwoenx, yes. Though you'll need another flag as well if you want it to unmount when idle19:40
woenxlordcirth: I have tried the x-systemd.automount option. But I don't see it mounting automatically when I enter that dir19:41
lordcirthngkim, how much RAM do you have? and what's your partitioning setup?19:41
woenxi can manually mount it using mount -a, for instance, and works fine, but not if it's unmounted19:41
lordcirthwoenx, IIRC you will need to do "systemctl restart remote-fs.target" and/or local-fs.target19:41
lordcirthto re-read fstab19:42
woenxaha19:42
woenxwill restarting the computer work?19:42
lordcirthyes19:42
woenx(to automatically unmont, there is the option x-systemd.idle-timeout=1min)19:43
woenxok< i'll try now, thanks!19:43
woenxbrb!19:43
ngkimlordcirth, I have 16G, and partitioning was set up by installer so I guess it is default (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6MXg8R7krN/)19:43
lordcirthngkim, ah, ok, so you used the new automatic ZFS option19:44
lordcirthWell, the short answer is, no, you can't in-place switch your / from ZFS to ext4 (or anything else)19:44
lordcirthHowever, I don't see ZFS on one drive causing much impact on 16GB19:45
ngkimlordcirth, in my case UI freezes when there's ≈200 MB of RAM left; I'll go for installing system from scratch then19:47
ngkimthank you for advice19:47
johnfgoerheks: Did you know of anything specific I should be doing before I try the install of server again?19:48
oft_gegongwhat is ubuntu used for?19:50
lordcirthoft_gegong, anything you use a computer for?19:51
oft_gegongand what if I don't use computers?19:51
lordcirthoft_gegong, then you aren't on this channel.19:52
oft_gegongOh I see. so if I don't use computers I don't exist19:52
lordcirthOh, you'd exist, you just wouldn't be connected to this channel, which requires a computer to access.19:52
lordcirthHowever, we are getting off-topic19:52
oft_gegongso back to ubuntu. I want to use ubuntu. But windows can do IRC really well. So. I guess the tables have turned *does a Dr. Evil pinky gesture*19:53
lordcirthThis is the Ubuntu support channel. Did you have a specific support question?19:54
leftyfboft_gegong: this is a support channel. Please your discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic19:54
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lapionIn Focal Fossa xchat doesn't automatically connect to servers marked as autoconnect in hte list anymore19:59
psionikalhey all20:00
lapionAlso the usb-disk icons in the discmounter-app are too big for the panel20:00
StatelessCatMeow20:00
lapionMerow20:00
psionikaluhh hello everyone?20:01
StatelessCatlapion: purrrrr20:01
hggdhpsionikal: yes, we are all here. This is not a chat channel, but a support one.20:02
psionikalokay my bad20:02
StatelessCatpsionikal: sup' bro?20:02
psionikalnot much20:02
psionikaltrying to find a convo channel20:02
hggdhStatelessCat: also applies to you.20:02
psionikalsorry for disrupting you all btw20:02
StatelessCathggdh: ok. :(20:02
lapionAnd I realy don't like the removal of bittornado from the repositories, we need some form of command line torrent client20:04
CarloWoodI put a wifi dongle in my PC. It shows up with lsusb as "Bus 010 Device 003: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter"20:07
CarloWoodCan I use this to connect my PC to the internet (assuming a hotspot is nearby, which is the case)?20:07
oerhekscheck additional drivers, see if there is a download available20:12
oerhekselse, yes, run updates, remove lancable and try to connect20:12
CarloWoodoerheks: are you addressing me?20:13
leftyfbCarloWood: when you plug it in, can you see wifi ID's in your network manager?20:14
CarloWoodI never use(d) a network manager :/.  Do you have command line thingy? Or else, where can I find that network manager?20:15
CarloWoodI think I set it up as access point in the past.. but now I want to connect with it... (to my phone's hotspot)20:15
leftyfbCarloWood: in the top-right corner if the default ubuntu20:16
oerheksno gui?20:17
leftyfbCarloWood: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-connect.html.en20:17
CarloWoodMy K-menu is in the top left corner.20:18
CarloWoodI can find something under System Settings --> Network --> Connections20:21
CarloWoodbut... then I'm stuck20:21
CarloWoodhttps://gyazo.com/54537d3dcac474aee26399b65a30a48e20:21
CarloWoodhttps://gyazo.com/c275f4f6145ec9ccf63dbbc226aa18e620:22
CarloWoodrather that one20:22
CarloWood'AlesPhone' is no more.20:22
oerheksmode infrastructure, change that to wpa2 ?20:23
CarloWoodThat's not there20:23
oerheksthen you would be just a client again20:23
oerhekswipe that profile, or start a new one20:24
CarloWoodIt has 'Infrastructure', 'Ad-hoc' and 'Access Point'20:24
CarloWoodok I deleted it20:24
lapionNice at least the mouse cursor doesn't freeze when a swap-partition is swap-on(ed) and files on usb are being scanned..20:24
CarloWoodnow there is no wifi at all anymore.20:24
lapionI only hope now the instant user-logout-bug is gone..20:25
CarloWoodhttps://gyazo.com/72350b17c38359e89b89d7621b12724a20:25
CarloWoodNo wifi entry :/20:26
lapionWill know in a few days20:26
CarloWoodAny idea on how to get this wifi working on ubuntu?20:28
tikkun_olamunistUpdating, upgrading and running dist-upgrade on apt-get, I'm not seeing 2020.04 LTS available yet, coming from 2018.04 LTS20:29
tikkun_olamunistI'm on a Dell with Ubuntu preinstalled20:29
tikkun_olamunistIs it because Dell hasn't done a new release with its own drivers yet?20:30
cyveristikkun_olamunist: dist-upgrade won't upgrade you from 18.04 to 20.04.20:31
strongthanyAny suggestions for getting the fingerprint reader on my thinkpad t480 to work on 20.04? I'm fine with an answer of "there's no driver so it won't".20:32
oerheksstrongthany, check your fingerprint ID on https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui20:32
tikkun_olamunistneither does do-release-upgrade20:32
oerheksand https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html20:32
oerheksoops.,..20:33
cyveristikkun_olamunist: do-release-upgrade won't show an available upgrade for 18.04 until 20.04.1 is released.20:33
oerheksforget Fprintgui, >>> Fingerprint GUI is no longer maintained and is not compatible with Ubuntu 20.04 and newer20:33
tikkun_olamunistwill do-release-upgrade give me a development release, or the new release?20:34
tikkun_olamunistwith -d flagged?20:34
strongthanyalso a question that has been making me pull my hair for a while now: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1215398/unable-to-install-landscape-19-10/1215408#20:35
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/session-fingerprint.html.en  if your ID is supported, it could work .. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/04/ubuntu-fingerprint-scanner-login-desktop20:35
lapiontikkun_olamunist, I have upgraded 2 systems with the -d option..20:38
lapionseem to run fine..20:38
lapionhowever another system of mine would not upgrade..20:38
lapionand a in the past I have had unstable upgrades all the time..20:39
lapionyour success may vary20:39
lapionusually upgrade to latest LTS only works directly when TLS xx.xx.1 is releases20:40
tikkun_olamunist@lapion OK thanks, I'll wait for 2020.4.120:40
lapionso in this car 20.04.120:40
lapionBut I have taken the plunge ( after making a tar of the install first )20:41
CarloWoodI don't even see CONFIG_RTL8188EE in my .config :(20:41
CarloWoodMaybe I need CONFIG_WLAN_VENDOR_REALTEK=y first20:41
tikkun_olamunistWhen I bought my Dell XPS 13 7390 Developer Edition, I also bought a Dell Universal Dock - D6000, and the Linux driver has been very shoddy. The dock whines sometimes, and the monitor in the dock will cut out suddenly. Are there better drivers available?20:43
sarnoldtikkun_olamunist: try running fwupdmgr update -- dell publishes many firmwares through that, probably your dock firmware is published through that too20:45
oerheksstrongthany, that https line, did you install apt-https-transport?20:46
tikkun_olamunist@arnold thanks20:46
strongthanyoerheks odd....unable to find the package20:46
oerhekselse that other comment, edit mannualy20:46
strongthanyoerheks ohhh, it's `apt-transport-https`20:47
oerheksoops20:47
strongthanyoerheks I did not have that installed. Installing now and trying again20:47
oerheksif this is the pix, please updat your post ( it will help others!!)20:47
strongthanyoerheks no dice, but good idea.20:48
strongthanyoerheks one of the thing someone mentioned in my post was that for me to add the key myself. Can you help a fella out and help me format that line?20:48
CarloWoodDepends on: NETDEVICES [=y] && WLAN [=y] ... -> Device Drivers -> Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y]) -> Wireless LAN (WLAN [=y])20:49
strongthanyoerheks They said it should be something like `sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 6E85A86E4652B4E6` with the last string being the key. What exactly would I need?20:49
johnfghi again guys.20:49
strongthanyoerheks or do you mind if I DM you so I don't blow up chatter on here too much20:49
strongthanyhi johnfg how good are you at landscape?20:49
johnfgno success with server install20:49
strongthanyheck20:50
johnfgstrongthany: Sorry.20:50
strongthanyit's okay, though if you know anyone who is good have them ping me. I'm about at my wits end =(20:50
johnfgI'm not seeing exactly why, but the failure may be the lvm problem and /boot.20:50
oerheksi am not sure where you are now; remove landscape entries, and re-add the repo (sudo add-apt-repository --update ppa:landscape/19.10)  or the key sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 6E85A86E4652B4E620:51
amansxquick question ubuntu's mini.iso what packages are installed by default?20:52
oerheksi would do 1st option20:52
oerheks* as the repo never installed any package with that error20:52
amansxwhere can I find this info20:52
strongthanyoerheks I have re-added the repo many times so far, and done a number of server reinstalls. I've been at this for over a month now.20:52
oerheks!mini | amansx20:52
ubottuamansx: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:52
psionikalhello again.20:52
psionikali'm having troubles with my wifi20:53
psionikali really don't know what to do so if anyone could help me out i would be most grateful20:53
CarloWoodCFG80211 -->20:53
paulnoiseHi, I'm trying to setup a PC with a USB wifi card (realtek rtl8811au) has anyone been able to do this?20:54
paulnoiseI'm downloading 20.04 now to see if it is automatically picked up20:55
amansxoerheks thanks a lot, it still installs a base system, with some packages like teh accounts-service etc even though I don't select anything, do you know what that base system is?20:55
amansxthere seems to be absolutely no documentation describing it, like a black box20:56
PanMezjaczpaulnoise: fingers crossed it works out of the box20:56
paulnoiseThanks PanMezjacz20:56
oerheksbase system is just kernel and tools, you select any desktop or service in a menu20:56
psionikalumm, i don't wanna be annoying but could someone help me?20:57
paulnoiseI hope so, I've just tried with Zorin and it wouldn't find it20:57
paulnoisewhat do you need psionikal?20:58
psionikalsorry for not providing too many details here, but in a nutshell, my wifi connects to a network but doesn't actually connect to the internet20:58
amansxokay so umm what are the tools? and what default services get installed? such as aparmor, accounts-service and console-setup service etc20:58
psionikalthe very same network i use for my other devices, which actually do connect to the internet20:58
psionikali guess you can tell me which commands to input20:59
paulnoisehmmm, when you open a browser what happens?20:59
psionikalugh lemme try-20:59
paulnoiseif you connect to the wifi and open firefox/chrome and goto www.bbc.co.uk does it show you a website?20:59
psionikali'm connected through ethernet btw20:59
paulnoiseokay, try with wifi only and see what happens21:00
amansxI don't want to go through the d-i installer's source and find out what mystery packages/tools get installed, there should be some form of documentation21:00
psionikalokay back21:00
psionikalit shows me the regular "can't connect to (insert website here)21:00
nick_hammy73ubuntu is not recognizing my usb wireless adapter. any tips?21:01
paulnoiseokay.  in terminal, type ping www.bbc.co.uk21:01
paulnoisesee if it will ping the web site21:02
amansxnick_hammy73 what's your wireless adapter?21:02
psionikalpaulnoise, unknown host error21:02
CarloWood-> Device Drivers -> Network device support -> Wireless LAN -> Realtek devices -> Realtek rtlwifi family of devices --> CONFIG_RTL8188EE21:02
amansxbuild/manufactorer21:02
CarloWoodnick_hammy73: lol - I'm just doing the same.21:02
CarloWoodnick_hammy73: which one is it?21:03
tengoGood evening, has anyone encountered an issue with 20.04 when using LUKS and setting the encryption key using a UK keyboard layout that after a reboot the keyboard default to non-UK (maybe US)?21:03
tengoI was going to try raising bug report but could fins my way around launchpad21:03
tengo*couldn't find..21:04
paulnoisepsionikal I need to reboot, back soon21:04
psionikalok cya21:04
nick_hammy73amansx it's netgear, i can look up the model number21:04
psionikalhopefully ig21:04
amansxnick_hammy73 look at the model number and look at the chip that's inside it, intel, broadcom etc21:04
nick_hammy73CarloWood i figured it was something to do with the driver, just wasn't sure how to change it21:05
amansxLemme rephrase the question I guess, how does ubuntu mini.iso know to install apparmor service? which it installs by default regardless of what package I chose, is it part of a tasksel if so, what's the name of the taslksel?21:06
nick_hammy73i feel so dumb, i did the ole unplug/plug back in and now it works haha21:07
amansxnick_hammy73 lol happens to the best of us21:07
psionikalwelp, anyone else who can help me here?21:08
amansxpsionikal what's the issue21:08
nick_hammy73amansx thanks for the help anyway!21:08
psionikali can connect to a wifi network, but no internet connection21:08
pagios_hi all, i would like to restart a given ffmpeg process, what is the signal i should send it to kill it and respwan it automatically ? kill -HUP ?21:08
psionikalpinging a website doesn't work21:08
psionikalreturns "unknown host"21:09
amansxifocnfig do you get an ip?21:09
amansxunknown host means your dns isn't working21:09
psionikaloh, and for the fun of it21:09
CarloWoodpsionikal: ifconfig -a21:09
psionikali tried pinging the dns21:09
amansxadd google's dns and see if that helps21:09
psionikalwhich i assumed was 8.8.8.8, returned "network is unreachable"21:09
CarloWoodif you don't have an IP then perhaps the DHCP isn't working?21:09
psionikallemme go do ifconfig without this ethernet brb21:10
amansxdo 1. ifconfig and see if you have an ip21:10
psionikalback21:10
amansx2. look at your router's/gateway's ip21:10
amansxif you have em both do tracert to another localmachine21:11
psionikalnope, no ips21:11
psionikalunder enp0s10 i assume you meant?21:11
amansxthere you go DHCP not working21:11
psionikaloki21:11
psionikallemme double check though21:11
amansxlook online how to setup DHCP21:11
psionikalokay, i definitely have no ip21:12
psionikalokay time to look this up21:12
psionikalthanks for the help amansx21:12
amansxnp21:12
amansxCan someone help me with this -> what base packages does mini.iso install, is it a tasksel task? if so what's its name and where is it configured?21:13
sysRPLhello21:14
amansxthe ram file (initrd.gz) doesn't give me good answers21:14
oerheksamansx, that environment is loaded in ram, not installed.21:15
amansxoerheks I'm aware hence the ram file, thanks though21:15
oerheksafter that, it starts tasksel and you choose what to install, with wired networking21:15
amansxso lets say I don't select anything in tasksel21:16
amansxit still installs a base system21:16
amansxkernel + some tasksel task that i can't seem to find21:16
oerheksno, kernel. clean login.21:17
amansxlogin won't work without getty21:17
oerhekssee what is enabled by default in that menu21:18
amansxlike nothing21:18
amansxI'm assuming the task is called "standard"21:18
amansxbut I can't seem to find how to emulate ut21:18
amansxhttps://www.debian.org/releases/etch/sparc/apbs04.html.en21:18
amansxtasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard21:19
amansxwhat's tasksel/first?21:19
amansxand what's standard?21:19
amansxand where can I list these tasks21:19
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel21:20
oerheksgrep Task /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc21:20
oerhekstasksel --list-tasks21:21
amansxroot@8f1c1b8ec597:~# cat /usr/share/tasksel/descs/ubuntu-tasks.desc | grep standard21:21
amansxTask: standard21:21
amansx ubuntu-standard21:22
amansxroot@8f1c1b8ec597:~# tasksel --task-packages standard21:22
amansxstandard^21:22
amansxroot@8f1c1b8ec597:~#21:22
oerheksso, standard is the standard gnome3 ubuntu-dsktop21:22
oerheksbut there is tons more, ssh, ubuntu-studio parts are nice21:23
amansxThis task installs a reasonably small character-mode system.21:23
psionikali'm back after setting up the dhcp thing21:23
amansxthe issue is the tasksel --task-packages doesn't work21:23
amansxit's broken on base install of bionic21:23
Bashing-omamansx: I found the following useful on my 1st minimal setup:21:24
psionikalit still returns unknown host21:24
oerheksoh, then you do not read carefully.21:25
Bashing-om!minimal | amansx21:25
ubottuamansx: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD21:25
oerheksit does not get installed, tasksel, and i never said it does.21:25
amansxah man, I installed tasksel manually21:25
oerheksbut you can install it. on your bionic.21:25
oerheksit is policy.21:25
amansxwhat I meant was tasksel's bionic installation is borked21:26
psionikalamansx: any more help? i already set up the dhcp thing21:26
amansxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/157627921:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576279 in tasksel (Ubuntu) "tasksel --task-packages does not list packages in task" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:26
amansxand I can't use a different distro because the datacenter I'm deploying this on is kinda stuck with bionic21:27
kyle__#ubuntu-server21:28
amansxso my question is: 1. is "standard" the one that installs apparmor and authentication-service etc21:28
amansx2. where is it configured? in d-i?21:28
amansx3. how do I find out what's inside this "standard" package21:29
oerheksdo a test in a VM/kvm?21:29
amansxwhat kinda test? I have a docker instance with ripped open initrd ram file21:30
amansxI can't seem to find the file that's like the base config file and no docs so kinda frustrating21:31
oerhekshttps://hub.docker.com/_/ubuntu21:31
amansxI could wireshark the configs but that's kinda long ass process, thought someone would know21:31
oerheks20.04, focal-20200423, focal, latest, rolling, devel21:32
amansxI have the docker image, man, just trying to figure out how it works21:32
amansxI'm trying to write a better installer script to make an unattended build with my packages, like a better UI for partioning etc21:34
amansxand remove junk packages such as accounts-service etc21:34
amansxand like ufw21:34
sarnoldcloud-init script?21:35
psionikalhello i'm still having issues with my wifi21:35
oerheksnetplan.yaml21:35
psionikalin a nutshell, i am connected to the network but i can't actually ping anything21:36
amansxsarnold these are mostly like terminal UI packages that'll help at installation21:36
amansxand most of this would be offline, installed inside the initrd21:37
tomreynamansx: check 1576279 again21:38
psionikali don't want to bother you again amansx, but could you help me some more?21:38
amansxtomreyn joined a bit later missed it21:39
amansxtomreyn time stamp?21:39
amansxpsionikal how can I help?21:39
psionikali set up the dhcp thing but still nothing21:39
amansxpsionikal wait the bug report21:39
amansxsorry tomreyn21:40
psionikal?21:40
tomreynno problem, amansx ;-)21:40
amansxpsionikal how can I help21:40
psionikalwell, as i already said, i set up the dhcp server but still nothing21:41
psionikalunknown host21:41
amansxok21:41
amansxdo you get an IP address yet?21:41
amansxtomreyn you're the best!21:41
psionikalnope21:41
tomreyn^21:41
amansxpsionikal ok so what's your ubuntu version are you using a UI or command line?21:42
psionikalthis might be a bit embarassing but i'm using 16.0421:42
psionikali'm using a terminal21:42
kostkonpsionikal, not embarassing at all21:43
amansxpsionikal what're the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file mask all the PII21:43
amansxfind out the interface name21:44
amansxand add something like auto eth121:45
amansxiface eth1 inet dhcp21:45
amansxthen ifdown eth1 and ifup -v eth121:45
amansxadd -v to see what's going on21:45
amansxtomreyn do you happen to know what's the default task the debian-installer runs? and where is it documented?21:49
tomreynamansx: no idea.21:50
amansxalso tomreyn your comment worked like a charm, it's weird that the package name is suffixed by a ^21:50
tomreynthat's how tasks are indicated to apt21:51
amansxhad no idea!21:51
amansxthanks a bunch21:51
amansxalso Note - Calling tasks from apt-get is not documented anywhere. If you find a page that documents this, please update this page with a link.21:52
tomreyndocumentation is a bit lacking there.21:52
amansxfrom the docs21:52
amansxtouché21:52
tomreynamansx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel#Usage_.28alternative.2921:54
amansxtomreyn thanks, question how does the desc file get updated? is that a part of apt-update?21:57
amansxI think this helps tremendously I can just query all the installed packages that have a suffix ^ and find out what tasks got installed21:59
amansxI think that solves half the problems from there I guess I'll have to find out how to replace these tasks with my own that can install my own version of say fdisk/gdisk and just get rid of garbage services altogether22:00
cgipythonI am unable to write to my USB Drive - even gparted says : Unable to open /dev/sdc read-write (Read-only file system).22:01
amansxcgipython mount it as readonly?22:01
amansxbackup data and reformat it22:02
amansxI'm using its NTFS?22:02
cgipythonfsck.vfat -n /dev/sdc1 --> this is saying not Not auto-correcting22:03
cgipythonamansx,  60.1G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)22:03
oerheksso, is it unmounted before you did that task?22:04
cgipythonoerheks, yes22:04
oerheks fsck utility. This tool should only be run against an unmounted filesystem ...22:05
cgipythonthere are tons of errors22:05
cgipythonI was hoping to just cleanly format it22:05
cgipythonfsck.vfat -a /dev/sdc1 === now running this22:05
davangerDoes the 20 tls improve on 19?22:06
davangeri have geforce 1030 that did not play well in 19. Not sure if 20 will be any better22:07
amansxI'm assuming you're sure the device name is correct? take it out and see if the dev name's still there22:07
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes22:07
oerhekssome nvidia bugs, ..22:07
amansxalso what's the partition table, GPT or MBR?22:08
Bashing-omdavanger: "plethora of improvements," >> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.04-LTS-Download22:09
davangerBut Nvidia related?22:10
davangerI could not get 4k movies to work right22:10
davangerIn 19 that is22:10
cgipythonamansx, how do i find out gpt or mbr?22:13
EliteGodstupid question: when adding PPA's to the system, usually they're tied to a specific Ubuntu version, like xenial, bionic. when doing do-release-upgrade those same PPA's are disabled by the system. to re-enable then again we just need to change to the current version, like focal, ie?22:14
cgipythonamansx, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9S9DdnxBkq/22:14
oerheksEliteGod, one could do that manually, i suggest to check them out on launchpad first.22:14
oerheksi am waiting on gnome-pie update22:15
EliteGodoerheks: do we really need to purge the PPA's before a release upgrade or it is not that important though?22:15
kinghatUbuntu or spins able to be installed on 2gb USB?22:15
EliteGodI mean, usually Ubuntu disable them22:16
tomreynamansx: what's the "desc file" you're referring to?22:16
oerheksdisabling ppa's is part of the upgrade process indeed22:16
oerheksno need to do that'manually22:16
amansxTasks are defined in .desc files found in /usr/share/tasksel. Debian derivatives can easily add tasks.22:16
EliteGodthanks for the input. I'm planning to upgrade to Focal during this week22:17
EliteGodweekend*22:17
amansxcgipython do you wanna clean format it and lose data?22:17
tomreynamansx: this seems to print a list of known tasks for a systems' package repository (i bet there's a much easier way to list this, though):    apt-cache dumpavail | grep '^Task: ' | cut -b7- | sed -E 's/([^,]+)(, )?/\1\n/g' | grep -v '^$' | sort | uniq22:17
oerhekskinghat, check sizes https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index22:18
amansxfantastic!22:18
cgipythonamansx, indeed22:18
cgipythoni am currently trying fsck - and its taking too much time22:18
cgipythonamansx, if there are bad sectors, preferably mark them while formattin22:19
amansxcgipython sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc22:19
tomreynamansx: actually there's /usr/share/tasksel/descs/ubuntu-tasks.desc - maybe what you meant22:20
amansxthis'll remove your partition table altogether22:20
cgipythonamansx, sdc1 or sdc?22:20
cgipython sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=512 count=1 conv=notrunc --- /dev/sdc1? or /dev/sdc?22:20
cgipythondoes this also mark bad sectors?22:20
amansxno22:20
amansxtomreyn that's what I meant but I'm assuming if there's a repo level desc files then they probably get updated by apt, when - I guess is another question22:21
cgipythonamansx, any hope of doing that with a command?22:21
kinghatoerheks: that's just the ISO size. on install they say they need 4gb or will fail and do22:22
amansxcgipython use badblocks with mkfs22:22
oerheksgood luck22:22
amansxI usually format with mkfs anyway22:22
EliteGodhonest answer: should I wait for 20.04.1 to appear to upgrade to Focal or that doesn't matter much?22:22
oerhekskinghat, xubuntu fits 2gb .. if it fails, maybe bad usb?22:22
oerheksand is the writing on an UNMOUNTED usb?22:23
Bashing-omEliteGod: If mission critical - then wait :)22:23
cgipythonamansx, dd: failed to open '/dev/sdc': Read-only file system22:24
EliteGodBashing-om: not critical at all. it's an old laptop having a second life though.22:24
amansxcgipython you probably got the wrong device mate22:24
kinghatoerheks: can't it only be written to one way?22:24
amansxor it's in a readonly mode via some physical button22:24
amansxsome flash drives have that22:24
EliteGod!info yarn focal22:25
ubottuPackage yarn does not exist in focal22:25
Bashing-omEliteGod: Install away :D .. I have heard of no show stoppers. Just be aware 20.04 remains as "development" until the .1 release.22:25
cgipythonamansx, did you see the fdisk -l output - that is the device22:26
cgipythonhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9S9DdnxBkq/22:26
cgipythongparted hanged on it22:26
amansxcgipython no idea then, did you try formatting it on a different device?22:26
EliteGodBashing-om: I know that, yes. but as this laptop has no important data, I think I'll try to see how well it will hold up. let's say that this is a very old laptop, AMD CPU E-300 (or something like that)22:27
EliteGodif it starts to complain, I'll make it a home server and done22:28
amansxcgipython try killing nautilus22:28
amansxI'm assuming you're running a UI22:28
Bashing-omEliteGod: (x)ubuntu I find is faster on my old hardware than (U)buntu. Just saying :D22:28
cgipythonamansx, /dev/sdc is still read only22:29
amansxtry this killall nautilus22:29
amansxtake out the flash drive and plug it back again22:29
amansxnow try that dd command22:29
EliteGodBashing-om: I'm considering that, yes. I'm already on Eoan and it is a bit sluggish. I guess that there's no differences when comes to the server version? I mean, there's no GUI at all22:30
cgipythonamansx, same problem22:30
amansxhmm22:30
amansxcgipython try dosfsck /dev/sdc122:30
amansxsee what it says22:31
amansxunmount it first of course22:31
tomreynamansx: right, /usr/share/tasksel/descs/ubuntu-tasks.desc is part of package tasksel-data, which (i think) isn't installed by default, and isn't used by apt. https://askubuntu.com/questions/252056/should-i-use-tasksel-tasks-in-apt-or-install-regular-metapackages#answers discusses how apt retrieves info on available tasks. so from the configured apt repositories.22:31
Kristine54Installed Ubuntu lts 20.04, but screen is blank after login screen. Mouse cursor is visible though. Can anybody help me solve the problem?22:31
cgipythonfsck.fat 4.1 (2017-01-24)22:32
cgipythonopen: Read-only file system22:32
amansxtomreyn gotcha, thanks for the info, this is amazing22:32
tomreynyou're welcome22:33
amansxcgipython I have one last suggestion for you that has worked many a times, gparted is sorta buggy at times, I'd recommend rebooting into text mode and trying this22:34
amansxthe dd command22:34
amansxand the UI services don't always help22:34
amansx@Kristine54 what's your GPU?22:34
amansxmaek and model?22:35
Kristine54Nvidia gtx 105022:35
amansxlinux distro?22:35
amansxI mean ubuntu version?22:35
Kristine54Ubuntu lts 20.04 the latest one22:35
tomreynKristine54: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Installer_and_live_session22:35
amansxKristine54 were you able to install it okay? as in did you see a UI while installing?22:37
Kristine54tomreyn seems like that is the problem. But I already installed it without 3rd party option. Is there a workaround to fix the issue without reinstalling it with 3rd party option?22:38
amansxKristine54 you'll have to enable the sources in apt sources22:38
Kristine54amansx I had some issue while installing, GUI froze time to time. But eventually I was able to install it22:38
amansxafter booting into the text only mode22:38
amansxKristine54 I reckoned, boot into text only mode, add sources to your apt source lst and install nvidia drivers22:39
Kristine54Ok lemme try22:39
kinghatoerheks:  https://irc.kinghat.xyz/uploads/18fc42fb06551f1d/Screenshot_20200424-173951.png22:40
oerheksoh you try to install xubuntu on a 2 gb drive??22:41
kinghat?22:41
kinghattrying to get Ubuntu or a spin installed on 2gb drive22:42
kinghatnot the ISO22:42
oerheksthat screenshot does not like to be the usb creator?22:42
oerheksoh22:42
oerheksno, that is not possible, even xubuntu takes 5-6-7 gb..22:43
Kristine54amansx I went to root shell prompt from recovery mode. Ok lemme try installing Nvidia driver.22:43
kinghatugh22:43
Kristine54amansx do you guys recommend doing it in particular fashion?22:43
oerheksi would say 32 gb, but it will be horribly slow22:43
oerheksyou could, put xubuntu on it, and use the rest as persistence storage22:44
oerheksmksusb22:44
Kristine54amansx am I supposed to do this?sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall22:45
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb#Persistent_live_systems22:45
tomreynKristine54: if you already installed ubuntu, you just need to run ubuntu-drivers22:45
kinghatoerheks I'm not going to actually use it I just want to use it as a grub bootstrap USB till I get around to doing a fresh install of my main os22:45
amansx^22:45
tomreynKristine54: actually what you just pasted is better22:45
oerheksoh22:45
Bashing-omKristine54: networking enabled in root account: then ' apt update ; apt upgrade ; ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Have the system here choose the driver to install.22:46
kinghatand I'll just leave the USB plugged in22:46
oerheksso, it is not ubuntu after all22:46
oerheksinteresting22:46
kinghat?22:46
kinghatwhat's not Ubuntu?22:46
cgiamansx, nothing works22:47
cgino matter what i do with this usb drive - it is read only22:48
Kristine54Ok cool, it's installing22:48
Bashing-omKristine54: "autoinstall" ?? if so reboot to see the effect.22:49
Kristine54Bashing-om yay!!! It worked. 😁 Thanks to all of you.22:50
amansxcgi try reformatting it on a windows machine22:50
Bashing-omKristine54: Thanks to ubuntu - great OS that it is :P22:50
amansxcould be a filesystem driver issue22:50
Kristine54Haha I still need to check if it will support my external monitor next 😅22:51
cgiamansx, how can a usb drive be write protected in ubuntu!22:51
tomreynkinghat: the smallest installation you can probably create is using debootstrap. you'd still need to chroot into the installtion, install a kernel, run mkinitramfs, grub-install, and probably run some more packages.22:51
oerhekskinghat, so you want to have a bootloading grub installed, to access an internal os.22:52
tomreynkinghat: where i wrote "and probably run some more packages" i actually meant "and probably install some more packages"22:52
amansxcgi could be a driver issue, it may be trying to protect your data due to a bad sector or something22:52
aendrukWhy is `-d` required to upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04 LTS? Is that by design (yesterday's release is indeed considered a development release) or just a quirk that should resolve with time?22:52
kinghatgot ya tomreyn22:52
sarnoldaendruk: when 20.04 is a bit more stable and better tested, we'll change https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release or https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development  or both to 'let' the upgrader go without any extra hurdles22:54
Bashing-omaendruk: 20.04 remains in the (d)evelopment channel until the .1 release.22:54
kinghatoerheks: if I install whatever Ubuntu onto a regular drive it installs it's grub and I use that because my main os grub is borked. I put windows on my spare drive so I can do that anymore so I'm looking to put Ubuntu on one of my small cheap USB drives so I can use it for functioning grub till I reinstall my main os22:55
Nick01Hey22:55
kinghatbecause I'm tired of trying to fix grub22:55
Nick01Finally done ppl to talk to.22:55
Nick01some*22:55
oerheksdepends, is it a legacy or uefi bios? https://askubuntu.com/questions/897516/installing-grub-on-an-usb-stick-keep-having-this-cannot-find-efi-directory-er22:55
amansxtomreyn quick question, when you design a metapackage can you enable a systemd service inside it on installation?22:56
Nick01So how is unbuntu these days? It's been awhile since I've had22:56
kinghatefi22:56
Nick01an install22:56
aendrukThanks. I read that about LTS→LTS, but the same applies to 19.10, just incidentally?22:57
amansxNick01 like any other linux distro, it sucks at times and at times in a good way22:57
Nick01I haven't used it since Windows crashed on me22:57
tomreynamansx: meta packages really have no contents, just install other packages by means of dependencies.22:57
Nick01Ubuntu 10, I think22:58
Nick01How far has it progressed?22:58
oerhekskinghat, also a help https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive22:58
amansxI see, thanks, I'm assuming d-i/debian installer enables services as a separate script file22:58
Bashing-omNick01: Here is sysyem support - general chat is #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss :D22:58
tomreynNick01: to discuss ubuntu, please join #ubuntu-discuss (as a registered user)22:58
Nick01Thanks!22:59
Kristine54Nope, still didn't support HDMI monitor in Ubuntu lts 20.04, Nvidia gtx1050. Can anybody help me with it?22:59
amansxKristine54 what do you mean? doesn'23:01
amansxdoesn't support HDR?23:01
amansxor the monitor itself won't show anything?23:01
Nick01I joined ubuntu-discuss. Are there any other general chat rooms I can join?23:02
Kristine54amansx yah, I meant display is blank. In setting>display it won't show the monitor either23:03
tomreyn!irc | Nick0123:04
ubottuNick01: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see !alis - See also !Guidelines23:04
amansxKristine54 multi-monitor setup?23:05
amansxor just a single monitor?23:05
Kristine54Just one HDMI monitor beside laptop screen23:06
amansxKristine54 try Applications > System Tools > Administration23:07
amansxtry nvidia settings or something23:07
amansxsorry I don't use the UI23:08
Nick01Do you guys like the Oculus Rift?23:09
Kristine54amansx confused, what did you want me to do?23:09
amansxin the settings search for "nvidia x server"23:10
amansxthere try to search for the second monitor23:10
Kristine54Mine don't show any options other than picking prime nvidia or Intel23:11
amansxtry nvidia23:11
amansxand see if you can find it there23:11
woenxDoes anyone know if the software Xsane is still supported?23:12
woenxapparently it's the best scanning software out there for linux, but it look as if it was last updated in... 1996?23:12
Kristine54Ok Nvidia is chosen right now, maybe I need to try Intel next23:12
Bashing-om!info xsane | woenx23:13
ubottuwoenx: xsane (source: xsane): featureful graphical frontend for SANE (Scanner Access Now Easy). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.999-7ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 286 kB, installed size 946 kB23:13
woenxI'd like to report a few bugs, but I don't know where to adress them23:14
Bashing-om!bug | woenx23:14
ubottuwoenx: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:14
woenxthanks Bashing-om23:17
Bashing-omwoenx: np :D23:22
Nick01What do you guys think about the Oculus Rift?23:26
Nick01Sorry wrong room23:26
woenxI'd like to try it someday23:28
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woenxI have reported a couple bugs about xsane... but now I have been browsing other bugs for this software, some of them I also share.... and they are from 2009 and have not been responded since.23:34
woenxMy hopes are not very high in this regard...23:34
CVirusAny clue why haven't I received a prompt yet to upgrade to 20.04?23:36
sarnoldCVirus: we don't flip that switch immediately, we normally wait  a while to let early adoptors find and report bugs23:37
Bashing-omCVirus: The update channel opens with the .1 release.23:37
CVirusaha .. got that.. thanks a lot!23:37
tripelbFrustration continues. Lets be simple. How can I tell if a usb is locked?23:38
Bashing-om!ltsupgrade | CVirus23:38
ubottuCVirus: Regular upgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS will be enabled once 20.04.1 is released in late July. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d23:38
tripelbDoes it have to be mounted to tell?23:38
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Kristine54Ok I tried using Intel, it still doesn't show HDMI monitor23:38
CVirus@Bashing-om, is it also the case if I'm upgrading from 19.10?23:39
Bashing-omtripelb: what shows ' sudo fuser -m /dev/sdXY ' where the sdXY is the target drive as identified from sudo parted -l .23:40
Bashing-omCVirus: Yup - 20.04 remians in the development channel until.23:41
CVirusaha.. thanks again!23:42
tripelbBashing-om Does the drive have to be mounted to see the XY? After I unmounted the drive I couldn't see it in gparted. I have to learn these things above my pay grade because I need to make a Buddhist nooo boot disk. But the boot disc making fails and I can't tell when I should take the drive out and then the drive gets locked and I'm frustrated.23:42
tripelbBashing-om I just saw the part about querying parted first23:44
tripelbLsblk Does not see the drive when it's not mounted. I need a lesson in teaching me about how to look at drive so I don't have to ask you guys all these detailed questions. I want to learn23:44
Bashing-omtripelb: only sees what is available to mount. IF the target drive is a Windows file system, ubuntu only has limited assests to access the device; and less to repair any issues.23:45
cgiI cant reformat a fat32 usb that i have - so cant install it on a new system :(23:45
tripelbIt's a mint boot disc.23:45
cgiBashing-om, but ubuntu should be able to wipe a drive and reformat - cant do that even23:45
tripelbBashing-om The parted response says nothing about SDA or SDB anything23:46
Bashing-omcgi: No longer Windows literate here - but, is the USB devise mountable at all ?23:46
cgiBashing-om, I can read it - but when i try to wipe it - readonly - everything - even dd23:47
tripelbIt does show me where the EXT4 and the Linux swap are. I don't know why I have two Linux swaps. The rest of the files are either Windows called Microsoft reserve partition or NTFS basic data partition. I use Windows to partition the whole drive so I could put more than one Linux system on it23:47
Kristine65Still trying to make HDMI external monitor work with Ubuntu lts 20.04 with Nvidia/Intel graphics.23:48
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Bashing-omtripelb: Open a terminal and trun ' journalctl -f ' and plug in the drive. does the system see it in journalctl's output ?23:48
tripelbBashing-om maybe I should have said the drive is plugged in and unmounted. I unmounted it.23:49
cgiBashing-om, FAT-fs (sdc1): error, fat_get_cluster: invalid start cluster (i_pos 0, start 501317e0) - found this when i did journalctl23:49
Bashing-omcgi: what results ' sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXY ' where as above XY refers to the actual target.23:49
tripelbOkay now I left the drive plugged in and it tells me stuff23:49
cgiBashing-om, its a FAT3223:50
cgifdisk -l => /dev/sdc1          64 126058495 126058432 60.1G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)23:50
Bashing-omcgi: I expect will also work on a Fat file system = sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1 .23:52
tripelbBashing-om I did the journal list23:52
cgiNTFS signature is missing.23:52
cgiUnrecoverable error23:52
cgiVolume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk.23:52
tomreynKristine65: i'm not personally keen to help with nvidia issues, but at this point i would suggest you review your logs and see which nvidia specific errors occur.23:52
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cgiBashing-om, 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt.23:53
Bashing-omcgi: so much for my thinking . guess need to take that advise and find a Windows machine :(23:53
woenxDoes anyone know why Ubuntu's image viewer has a much warmer color than pictures opened with another software (e.g. Gimp)23:54
woenxit's like it's trying to apply a color profile on its own23:54
tomreynsettings -> devices -> color   sets color profiles23:55
woenxYes, my screen is calibrated, and I have already loaded a profile23:55
woenxbut it's like the image viewer ignores that profile and uses another one instead23:55
tripelbBashing-om i just did df -Th but I cannot understand the output. (Squashes and loops are foreign to me)23:55
woenxand it looks even warmer (my screen is set at 5000k)23:56
Bashing-omtripelb: Pastebin the output and we can discuss then what you do not understand.23:56
woenx(yes, changing the color profile also affects the picture displayed in "Picture viewer), so it's like it has a yellowish layer on top23:57

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