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Vata0well running that fresh install00:21
Vata0xfce seems like its running a little smother and that fresh install helped00:22
Vata0i have a question tho. how do i add like firefox to my dock and have it locked in place so nothing goes in front of it00:23
Vata0sorry didnt mean to exit00:25
xu-irc18whmm did a 19.10 to 20.04 upgrade seems mostly ok except now i cant start steam01:02
xu-irc18wweird01:02
xu-irc18wit says failed to run steam.desktop01:03
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xu-irc18woh wait i think i gotta enable the other packages back01:06
xu-irc18win software and updates01:06
Celsowe will no longer have the xubuntu-restricted-extras package on xubuntu01:22
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xu-help94wHow to make an application shortcut for hiding all windows on the screen? For minimizing them. It always was Ctrl+Alt+D (like Win+D in MS Windows) but in 20.04 it does not work :(  I'm so used to this feature because some people like to stare at my screen... lol02:40
xu-help94wI don't know if it is a problem of mine or of the new release. I've installed Xubuntu 20.04 minimal installation (xubuntu-core) through netboot-installation02:42
xu-help94wI thought I could find shortcuts in previous releases' keyboard settings, but there are no any shortcuts for such a thing.02:43
krytenxu-help94w: That's Super+D now.02:43
kryten..So like on Windows now.02:44
xu-help94wWhat is Super? I thought Super is equal to Ctrl+D02:44
krytenThe "Windows" key.02:44
xu-help94wI've set up the Windows Key as the one that changes keyboard layouts. Is it the reason of which it doesn't work?02:45
xu-help94wYeah... I've just tried and indeed it works when I changed "change layout option" to another key02:46
xu-help94wthank you!02:46
krytenSure!02:46
xu-help94wIt's a pity I have to set another key for changing layouts in order to make Super+D work... I've used to changing layouts with only one key, not a combination of them. Is there a way to create an application shortcut for Ctrl+Alt+D?02:51
xu-help94wI wonder which terminal command it is...02:52
krytenWell yeah, in the Window Manager settings you can simply revert it to the previous shortcut - or anything else you like.02:53
xu-help94wThank you so much! I was literally staring at Keyboard setting and I did not see it in there02:55
xu-help94wNow I see it in the Window Manager :)  :)  :002:55
krytenYeah, that separation confuses many..02:56
AndrioAny idea why df shows 1.1 TB space used on my hard drive even though `tree -h` shows only a handful of files that add up to about 750 GB?03:58
Andrio(NTFS file system)03:58
AndrioProbably will just format it anyway03:58
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Guest11276Does anyone know when the new version will be available as an upgrade on the LTS path? I kinda don't want to switch the updater to the develop path for this.05:36
Vata0is the snap store extremely slow loading for anyone else06:30
Jess6Are you there?07:41
xu-help2wEh, Adwaita icon theme is still broken... I thought it was going to be fixed in 20.04 3:08:26
brainwashxu-help2w: how is it broken?08:47
xu-help2wIt was broken in 19.10. Many of the icons didn't work. You can check it on the DistroTest site. In 20.04 the same problem... oh08:47
brainwashprobably because Ubuntu splits the Adwaita icon theme into two packages08:48
brainwashadwaita-icon-theme: default icon theme of GNOME (small subset)08:49
brainwashadwaita-icon-theme-full: default icon theme of GNOME08:49
brainwashinstalling -full should fix the problem08:49
xu-help2wThank you a looooot! ^_^ I was waiting half a year for this problem to fade away lol08:51
xu-help2wJust installed it and it finally works08:51
brainwashwell yeah, I guess this can be confusing for users08:52
brainwashnot sure if this was reported to the Xubuntu deam08:52
brainwashteam08:54
brainwashbug 186681408:54
ubottubug 1866814 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Adwaita icon theme is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186681408:54
* diogenes_ wonders what was the bug nr.108:56
xu-help2wI even know that one.08:56
diogenes_do tell us please.08:57
xu-help2w"Microsoft has a majority market share" :)  It is a well-known "bug", because it's become a meme.08:58
xu-help2whttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/108:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]08:58
diogenes_hehe good one thanks.08:59
diogenes_ug #1 reported by Mark Shuttleworth on 2004-08-2009:00
xu-help2w:D09:00
diogenes_Bug*09:00
linuxrHello all. I'm planning on installing xubuntu 20.04. But I have read that this is not supported for 5yrs like regular ubuntu. What does this mean, precisely?09:16
brainwash3 instead of 5 years09:18
linuxrdoes this only affect the xfce packages, and the rest of the packages has regular 5yrs support?09:20
brainwashrest? the ubuntu core and other packages in the "main" repository have longer support09:21
brainwashyou can check with the terminal command "ubuntu-support-status"09:21
brainwash!info thunar09:22
ubottuthunar (source: thunar): File Manager for Xfce. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.14-0ubuntu1 (focal), package size 295 kB, installed size 1063 kB09:22
brainwashthunar is in the "universe" repository09:22
brainwashor it's called channel09:23
linuxrokay, thanks. This means I'm not necessarily screwed with xubuntu 20.04 after 3yrs09:24
AjjayHow to add Presentation App in Libre office09:25
todsah11:21 < brainwash> you can check with the terminal command "ubuntu-support-status"09:52
todsahthanks for that!09:52
todsahHad no idea that was a thing09:52
SDcardhelphelp, i forgetten what i typed in the terminal, it says my sd card has no permission11:39
SDcardhelpsda                                                                   ├─sda1│    vfat         4D19-9B26                             402.9M    19% /boot/efi├─sda2│    swap         9ffda882-47ed-43d9-8220-ebc654b3c2cb                [SWAP]└─sda3     ext4         4f954dab-0a15-450e-a41c-1cf2e4fe8ffc  414.5G     1% /mmcblk011:39
SDcardhelpit can detect but unable to mount as you can see, can anyone help?11:40
SDcardhelpDidn't work before and after --> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils11:41
SDcardhelpHI herby11:42
SDcardhelphelp, i forgotten what i typed in the terminal, it says my sd card has no permissionsda                                                                   ├─sda1│    vfat         4D19-9B26                             402.9M    19% /boot/efi├─sda2│    swap         9ffda882-47ed-43d9-8220-ebc654b3c2cb                [SWAP]└─sda311:42
SDcardhelpext4         4f954dab-0a15-450e-a41c-1cf2e4fe8ffc  414.5G     1% /mmcblk0                                                     it can detect but unable to mount as you can see, can anyone help?Didn't work before and after --> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils11:42
gst568923Hi, I would like to upgrade from xubuntu 19.10 to 20.04 by GUI update-manager, but no new notification is shown to me. I have tried to setting "Notify for any version" and "Notify for LTS version"12:40
kgbgst568923: just do it through the CLI, man..12:43
gst568923kgb yes I know, but I asked through gui12:44
kgbjust sudo apt clear cache b4 you start and you'll be golden!..:)12:44
kgbhttps://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-clear-the-package-cache/12:45
kgb++ https://askubuntu.com/questions/144222/how-do-apt-get-clean-and-apt-get-clean-all-differ12:45
kgb=)12:45
gst568923@ kgb I should run `sudo apt-get clean` ?12:47
gst568923kgb I have run `sudo apt-get clean` and than update-manager but not works!12:50
brainwashgst568923: it most likely takes some time until upgrading is available via GUI12:55
brainwashin case there are some last minute bugs12:55
kgbbrainwash: ok, well for GUI you've got: 1) Synaptic and 2) Aptitude12:58
brainwashI was talking about update-manager12:59
kgbbt it should be *no* different from the apt package manager.. unless, I don't know what-all you might've added for it not to work. :o12:59
brainwash"Upgrades from 19.10 will not be enabled until a few days after 20.04's release. Upgrades from 18.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 20.04.1 release expected in late July 2020."13:01
kgbthere's *some* help for update-manager, like @https://xubuntu.org/m-update-manager/ but why bother with it. =)13:01
kgbidk., Synaptic is always good to me..13:02
brainwashyou don't seem to understand the matter13:02
kgb(and Aptitude for 'tricky' leftovers, sometimes; when there are lots of repos added. :))13:02
kgboh.13:03
brainwashthis is about upgrading from 19.10 to 20.0413:03
brainwashvia update-manager13:03
kgbyes ok, got it; bt WHY use update-manager, meh.13:04
brainwashbecause it can do release upgrades13:04
kgbbah, even server instructions say to just "upgrade" and that's that! xD https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/0032cef9-ubuntu-server-guide.pdf13:19
kgbaanyway. :)13:19
kgband /or simply more examples (& it gets done with three commands, literally), https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-18-04-19-04-to-ubuntu-19-1013:21
kgbbrainwash: honestly, I don't know what's your beef w/update-manager :))13:22
kgb... here's more, it's the simplest thing in the world: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades13:23
kgb*always has been: https://www.howtogeek.com/351360/how-to-upgrade-to-the-latest-version-of-ubuntu/13:24
brainwashwell okay. one more time for you in case you did not see the message:13:24
brainwash"Upgrades from 19.10 will not be enabled until a few days after 20.04's release. Upgrades from 18.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 20.04.1 release expected in late July 2020."13:24
brainwashthere is nothing more to add13:24
kgbwell, ok - but, then, WHY even ask?? :))13:25
brainwashbecause the user was not aware of this fact until I shared the information13:27
brainwashmaybe you should scroll up and read the chat log13:27
kgbi wish!..:) np vps13:29
kgberr no vps for me13:29
xu-irc13wGongratz on 16.04 release:  https://xubuntu.org/screenshots/13:42
DavidJOwensI'm getting a Panda PAU06 USB wifi adapter to add wifi to a desktop machine running Xubuntu 17.10.  What do I need to do to get it working?  Just plug it in?13:51
busraxubuntu nasıl kuruluyor 23 bit için?14:00
busra32*14:00
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Vata0do we report bugs here?16:54
Hamiltonapt update and upgrade doesn't automatically upgrade to 20.04 right?17:20
diogenes_Hamilton, right.17:24
Hamiltondiogenes_, I need to issue a `apt dist-upgrade` or something explicitly right?17:25
diogenes_!upgrade | Hamilton17:25
ubottuHamilton: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade17:25
gst568923Can I running Xubuntu LiveCD with another language? When I boot in the BIOS system the live usb show me this, and pressing <escape> can I change the language: `https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Uefi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=install_00_precise.png` but when I run live usb into UEFI system the live usb show me only:17:39
gst568923https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/AmministrazioneSistema/Uefi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=grub_20.04.png17:39
kgboh, I absolutely loathe localization ^^ everything has been designed, produced in English - original terminology, which often cannot be translated and then people make stuff up and a (majority) consensus is reached... while that translation usually SUCKS, big time. xF17:45
gst568923@kgb the screenshots are: Can I running Xubuntu LiveCD with another language? When I boot in the BIOS system the live usb show me this, and pressing <escape> I can change the language: `shorturl.at/pGTZ6` but when I run live usb into UEFI system the live usb show me ONLY: `https://i.stack.imgur.com/UZiPB.png`17:47
gst568923@kgb with mbr system I can change: https://i.stack.imgur.com/ZKC9O.png17:49
gst568923@kgb with uefi no!17:49
brainwashyou can change the language after booting the Live ISO17:50
brainwashhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWFKxTfUcAURH2g?format=jpg17:50
kgbgst568923: honestly never had an interest in *anything* which has to do with localization - other than to HOW to enable en_US (and throw away all of those other "en" entries which Ubuntu comes with; wish that could all be fixed to en_US as if useful. :))17:51
* kgb can't type, sheesh!17:51
gst568923brainwash your screenshot appears before of this screen?: https://i.stack.imgur.com/UZiPB.png17:53
brainwashafter17:54
gst568923after that I press "Try Ubuntu without installing"?17:55
brainwashdo you open the grub boot menu?17:55
brainwashnormally, it does not open and you just boot to the screen in my screenshot17:56
gst568923brainwash thanks, i will try again as you are telling me17:57
gst568923another question: actualy update-manager not notify me of 20.04 new version?17:59
brainwashit will in few days17:59
gst568923brainwash ok..., because I have this bug problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/186513018:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1865130 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu) "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, trying to reset the VCPU!!!" [High,Fix released]18:02
gst568923brainwash I use open source driver radeon18:02
udzguruhello everyone.18:03
gst568923udzguru welcome18:03
brainwashgst568923: but it says Fix Released18:03
brainwashin 18.04, 19.10 and 20.0418:04
udzgurui have an issue with xfce4-settings-manager. no matter how i launch it (via cli or whisker-menu) the window is simply empty and shows no settings18:04
udzguruanyone got an idea?18:05
brainwashcould be a broken menu file18:05
brainwashyou don't get any error message in the terminal output?18:05
gst568923brainwash yes, but for ati mobility hd 3450 the problem persist and I have also the screen black, I can run xubuntu only with VGA external port and nomodeset option :(18:05
udzguruno error output from the cli18:05
brainwashgst568923: no idea then. you could install 20.04 now if you don't want to wait some more days..18:06
brainwashudzguru: is that a new issue in 20.04?18:07
udzguruno i am not yet on 20.0418:07
udzguruit's 19.10.18:08
udzguruhave not yet been offered the option for the release-upgrade.18:08
udzgurubrainwash: i already searched the internet and found mention of .menu files in ~/.config but there are none for me and I do have the default ones it seems in /etc/xdg/....18:09
brainwashdid settings-manager work fine before? or did some recent change/update introduce this glitch?18:09
gst568923brainwash I tried to write in the irc section #radeon days ago but there is more silence than a cemetery!18:09
udzguruit did work when i set up this laptop. somewhere on the way through upgrades it stopped working. i tried to find the error some months ago but ran into a dead end .. now i had time and wanted to give it another shot18:10
udzguruis there an option to "reset" the settings-manager somehow?18:11
brainwashnot sure. it does not actually save much information other than window size I think.18:11
brainwashI would create a second user account and check if the problem is affecting this fresh account also18:12
udzguruthis is something i found in ~/.config. an xml file with a window size defined.18:12
udzguruok gimme a sec18:13
udzguruso a freshly created user has all the settings it seems18:14
udzgurujust as i would expect to find for my current user18:15
brainwashthat confirms that there is something wrong with your user account18:15
brainwashand the settings-manager only stores window size information18:16
udzguruthe question is: what could that be?18:16
brainwashmy guess would still be menu file18:16
brainwashor GTK theming issue18:16
brainwashmmh18:16
udzgurui am pretty clueless ... i did not change anything regarding themes or so ... and the menu file in /etc/xdg/.. looks pretty much stock and contains information about all the settings.18:19
udzguruat least to my knowledge18:20
brainwashnot sure what to suggest18:22
udzguruthank you for your support even if we didn't find the solution. i really appreciate people being friendly and helpful ;)18:24
udzgurui also joined the xfce support channel ... perhaps the guys there have an idea on how to approach this18:25
brainwashit really is an odd issue :/18:25
udzguruin very old posts i found there were hints on .menu files in the ~/.config folder. but i searched using catfish and did not find any18:26
Vata0i camr across a bug with screensaver preview. when i click preview it kills my mouse and i cant get out18:27
Vata0also there seems to be a bug in firefox. when clicking to copy something it glitches and dosnt let the menu stay up. you have to scroll over it without letting go to copy18:29
Vata0xubuntu 20.04 fresh install18:31
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e3khi. got this issue when screen locks: keyboard does not work only mouse so i cant type the password. first noticed when upgrading to 19.04 then on another masine when going from 18lts to 20lts. any ideas?18:36
brainwashe3k: 20.04 uses the new xfce4-screensaver as screen locker. so, remove the old light-locker and install the new one instead.18:40
e3ki did disable every lock in screensaver and powermanagement it locks anyway...18:41
brainwashthat shouldn't happen18:41
e3kthe old light-locker? got to check that but currently on some other system. i use ubuntu only at work.18:42
e3kbrainwash - yes it looks that something is locking the session in addition despite the fact i disabled all locks via settings.18:43
brainwash"old" as in it was replaced18:43
e3kthe only way to workaround i have now to run: service lightdm restart - so i guess it could be lightdm related. any changes there?18:44
brainwashhard to tell18:44
brainwashbest to check what processes you have running18:44
brainwash$ ps aux18:44
brainwashwill print them in a terminal window18:45
brainwashlook for "locker" and "screensaver"18:45
abtmHi, I installed xubuntu 20.04 yesterday and have a quick question and an fyi19:21
abtmfirst the fyi, the libreoffice help does not work19:21
Kryunawhat's the error you're getting?19:21
abtmreports a permissions issue19:21
Kryunawhat permission issue19:22
abtmin the end I ended up uninstalling the bundled version and instead installing the current from libreoffice19:22
abtmI would have to spin up a new vm to give you the error19:22
abtmneed 10 min but I will get it for you19:22
Kryunaok19:22
abtmmy quick question is network manager GUI support for wireguard19:22
Kryunashould be19:23
abtmsupposedly the cli has it19:23
abtmbut I see no way to add a connection via the applet19:23
abtmeven though wireguard is installed19:23
Vata0is the snap store slow for anyone else?19:24
Kryunacouldn't tell you, I don't use snap19:25
Vata0why not19:28
Kryunawhy19:29
Vata0?19:29
KryunaI can install whatever I need from terminal in 5 seconds and then i never need any apps ever again.19:30
KryunaI only use about 5-6 pieces of software on linux19:30
abtmforgot I had deleted my template (want to rebuild it) so its taking a bit longer to do fresh install from iso.....19:32
abtmbooting now19:35
abtmerror when I try to access libreoffice help (f1)19:37
brainwashmaybe it's not installed19:37
abtmObject not accessible.  The object cannot be accessed due to insufficient user rights.19:38
Vata0idk how but my memu seems to be messed up. none of the software programs are showing unless i actually search for them19:38
abtmalso language support is telling me that writing aids for my chosen language (english) are not installed.19:40
abtmoffers to install dictionaries and help files for en-za, gb, au and ca19:41
abtmis there anything you want me to check or give you on this fresh install vm?19:42
brainwashis the package "libreoffice-help-en-us" installed?19:44
abtmlet me check19:44
brainwashno idea if language support would pull that in or not19:44
abtmyes it is19:46
brainwashbug 186956119:48
ubottubug 1869561 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Focal) "Libreoffice Help does not work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186956119:48
abtmah19:49
abtmglad it was already known :)19:49
abtmwhat about wireguard in network manager gui?19:50
e3kbrainwash i have got no locker running but: 1. /usr/bin/xfce4-screensaver 2. xscreensaver19:52
brainwashxscreensaver?19:53
e3kdon't ask me why19:53
brainwashyou should probably uninstall it19:53
e3kprobably i shoul19:53
e3kd19:53
brainwashunexpected behaviour can occur when two screen lockers try to lock the session19:54
e3kunexpected behavior can occur when using ubuntu ;)19:55
brainwashabtm: are you asking if there is support builtin now, or do you have a problem setting it up?19:55
abtmif built in19:55
abtmhave wireguard module installed19:55
abtmbut cant find a way to add in nm applet19:55
e3kbrainwash ok. uninstalled and will test it on monday. shell i report back when it is fixed (the test will run 8h)19:56
brainwashabtm: maybe this https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2019/03/15/wireguard-in-networkmanager/19:56
abtmread that19:56
abtmand read others that confirm gui is avail in kde versions so wanted to know if in xfce as well19:57
brainwashXfce does not have/provide a network manager19:57
abtmwe are using the gnome nm applet I believe19:58
brainwashnot sure if it is a gnome project19:58
brainwashbut yes, nm-applet is used in Xubuntu19:59
brainwashand obviously network-manager19:59
brainwashabtm: all I can find are tutorials for nmcli or configuration import, so no GUI setup20:01
abtmgot it20:01
Vata0_did any of yall switch the window mannager out20:41
dispoany one upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 ?20:45
dispoany issues ?20:45
Vata0_i did on ubuntu stock20:45
Vata0_worked fine20:45
Vata0_took way longer then a clean install20:46
lighterowlI did 19.10 to 20.04 yesterday.20:46
dispoI've got a custom setup here with my xubuntu20:46
dispo18.0420:46
Vata0_what do u mean custom20:47
dispoVata0_: https://i.imgur.com/S7RBBwN.png20:48
Vata0_how did u add that side bar20:49
dispoits actually a hidden bar20:49
dispoor hidden panel20:50
Vata0_its there by default?20:50
dispono I added it20:50
dispopanel 120:50
dispoI dont like ubuntu20:51
dispoxubuntu is the best distro of them all20:51
disposo solid20:51
dispoyou cant go wrong with xfce20:51
dispoit just works its solid and its a great daily driver20:51
Vata0_xfce seems just as slow as gnome for me20:51
dispoVata0_: crate panel 1 chose deskbar20:52
disporow size 2620:52
Vata0_i found it thx20:52
disponumber of rows 120:52
Vata0_i like ur setup20:52
dispoautomatically hide panel always20:52
dispothanks20:52
dispo:)20:53
Vata0_hang on ill share mine20:54
Vata0_https://imgur.com/a/ZcrN6Oa20:57
disponice wallpaper :)20:59
Vata0_thx20:59
Vata0_im not done this was just to get me up and goin21:00
dispothe icon set I use is papirus21:00
dispoalso for the panel I use a separator for each icon21:00
dispoI might look into adding something in conky21:01
dispoeventually21:01
dispofor the background21:01
Vata0_not a fan of conky21:01
Vata0_is there a night shift for xubuntu21:01
Vata0_i cant think of what its actally called right now21:02
disponot sure21:03
dispoyou can try compiz docky and plank21:04
dispobut I prefer to use the defaults as it is21:04
Vata0_i wish i could think of what its called21:05
Vata0_ubuntu had it by default21:06
Vata0_puppy linux even has it21:06
dispoyou should check out irssi21:07
Vata0_whats that21:08
lighterowlit's a console IRC client.21:09
lighterowlI've been using it since I can remember.21:09
Vata0_im useing hex21:09
lighterowlcool21:10
Vata0_he use gtk right21:15
Vata0_gtk21:15
lighterowlVata0_: if you mean dispo , he specifically mentioned using xubuntu21:17
lighterowl22:46:29 < dispo> I've got a custom setup here with my xubuntu21:17
Vata0_fount it21:17
Vata0_sudo apt-get install redshift-gtk21:17
Vata0_ur all welcome21:17
lighterowlokay21:18
lighterowlI don't enjoy eyecandy, but sure.21:18
Vata0_mot eye candy21:18
Vata0_its nightshift21:18
Vata0_used it on puppy21:18
lighterowloh, ok.21:19
Vata0_https://github.com/jonls/redshift21:19
dispowill check that out thanks :)21:21
dispoVata0_: red shift is in the software center21:23
disporepo21:23
dispoill get it from there21:23
dispoworks well :)21:24
Vata0_dam really21:27
dispoyep that software center rocks21:28
dispohas everything21:28
Vata0_i wish this version was like puppys tho21:30
Vata0_it would allow you to adjust it from a menu and turn it on and test it and stuff21:31
dispowell I have a menu on the icon21:38
dispopanel21:38
dispoif I right click21:38
dispowith options21:38
Vata0_i have that but its not like the puppy menu21:43
xu-irc69wQuestion... I am on Xubuntu 19.10 and just saw that 20.04 was released... I tried a "sudo do-release-upgrade" but it says no new release found?  I made sure it was flagged for NORMAL vs LTS.  Any ideas?21:44
xu-irc69wThanks for any advice...21:46
lighterowlxu-irc69w: no idea, I did the exact same thing yesterday and it worked "somewhat okay".21:48
Bashing-omxu-irc69w: 20.04 is still under the development channel - is recommneded to aeait the .1 release, However, if you so desire the 20,04 rlaese now there is the -d flag in do-release-upgrade command to make it happen.21:48
lighterowlthe upgrade process itself wasn't entirely successful, but at least do-release-upgrade found the new release okay.21:49
Noboru55hello, i am running xubuntu 20.04, after reboot i always get initramfs  and need to run fsck21:55
Noboru55does it mean i have bad blocks ?21:56
lighterowlwell, it might.21:57
Bashing-omNoboru55: Consider too hardware issues: what shows from the smartctl tool ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools21:57
lighterowlit might also mean that your volume is not unmounted properly for some reason while shutting down the system.21:57
Noboru55in any case, what should i do ?21:59
Bashing-omNoboru55: My 1st step is to read the system logs - primary is /var/log/syslog .22:01
Noboru55not sure, maybe when i run the ms office on playonlinux it doesn't close properly22:07
Noboru55and when i reboot something happens.22:07
lighterowlyeah, tracking down that "something" is crucial to solve this :)22:08
taxdudehello22:09
Noboru55lol22:09
lighterowltaxdude: please don't take my money!22:09
Noboru55since it doesn't broken my xubuntu22:09
taxdudeok22:09
Noboru55its ok22:09
taxdudedonations only22:09
Vata0_do the devs of xubuntu actually come here?22:10
taxdudeso is the the update immediately after install that installs the snap-store a bug?22:10
taxdudeafter install the first thing I did was to remove snapd, but it wasn't installed22:11
taxdudethen I get a notice about an update and it installs snapd22:12
Noboru55i gave up to uninstall snapd because many softwares install it like a dependency22:12
Noboru55example chromium-browser22:12
Noboru55now going to dinner.22:12
taxdudeis that because of chromium or because of the snap-store22:12
lighterowlchromium-browser was using snapd in 19.10 already.22:13
taxdudeI wouldn't know, I always install Chrome22:13
taxdudeyou are installing it from the Software thing, right? Becuase that has snaps enabled. If you disable snaps I don't think it would install the snap version.22:14
lighterowlnah, unfortunately that's not the case for Chromium at least.22:15
taxdudeI can test that out on a VM now I think22:15
lighterowltaxdude: you don't need to :) here's the official announcement : https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition22:16
taxdudeguess you are right: apt-cache depends chromium-browser22:18
taxdudechromium-browser PreDepends: debconf PreDepends: snapd22:18
taxdudeI really don't like snaps :(22:18
lighterowlme neither22:19
lighterowlthey remind me of snapchat.22:19
dispolol22:21
Vata0_dispo is it possible to make a panel amd have somthing centered without all the seperators22:28
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