| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I am satrting to question if plugins with a jack version should even show up in the menu. There are a lot of them... so many that most people will take one loo and not bother. | 00:10 |
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| OvenWerks | *one look | 00:10 |
| OvenWerks | It is almost worth it's own menu, sub menus and sub sub menus | 00:12 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: If you install the version of -menu from the Backports PPA, it has the jack versions of lsp-plugins in a submenu of the Effects submenu. | 00:14 |
| OvenWerks | I am not even sure providing lv2, vst, jack client and ALSA application make sense. | 00:14 |
| OvenWerks | cool, I will do that | 00:14 |
| Eickmeyer | In other words: I did a thing this morning. | 00:15 |
| Eickmeyer | Regarding DjZU's issue, I think it was a one-off. | 00:16 |
| OvenWerks | Anything that has an OSS variant should have the OSS variant .desktop file with NoDisplay=true | 00:17 |
| OvenWerks | we should not support OSS | 00:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Agreed. OSS needs to die in a fire. | 00:18 |
| OvenWerks | OSS is the thing for free BSD | 00:19 |
| OvenWerks | it is more "unix-y" | 00:19 |
| Eickmeyer | Well, they can have fun with it. As for me an my house, we shall have ALSA. | 00:19 |
| OvenWerks | it is not real time friendly | 00:20 |
| OvenWerks | totally file handle based... blockable | 00:21 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. | 00:21 |
| OvenWerks | however, I think the switch to plasma should get done first when GG opens up in a few weeks | 00:22 |
| OvenWerks | I have set mine up to look pretty much like what we have now. | 00:22 |
| OvenWerks | deskbar at the top, etc. | 00:23 |
| OvenWerks | the plasma default for menu is close to whisker but I switched to the win95 style menu whic for me is the most productive. (me being strange) | 00:25 |
| OvenWerks | in the past we have set the title bar colour of the focused window to Studio blue | 00:25 |
| Eickmeyer | Groovy Gorilla. | 00:25 |
| OvenWerks | GG | 00:26 |
| Eickmeyer | !20.10 | 00:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) will be the 33rd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release October 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseSchedule ). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions. | 00:26 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't know if I'm going to go as far as customizing color schemes. | 00:26 |
| OvenWerks | so long as it contrasts... while I have a CDE look alike, I am not suggesting we do that | 00:27 |
| OvenWerks | breeze works quite well with gnomed titlebars for now (untill they change to make it look "new" | 00:28 |
| Eickmeyer | I think I'm going to keep Materia (I've already packaged the KDE version), but I'll change the inactive titlebar to a "light" color as the default. Basically, I'll make a new color scheme. Would that be a fair compromise? | 00:30 |
| OvenWerks | I'll know when I see it :) | 00:30 |
| OvenWerks | merely changing the text colour does not seem to be enough. a good Title bar BG difference helps a lot | 00:31 |
| OvenWerks | some of us are over 45... | 00:32 |
| * OvenWerks will be 60 this year | 00:32 | |
| OvenWerks | but the rality for me is, if I don't like it I will change it :) | 00:33 |
| OvenWerks | so do what the artistic people like.... I'll try to be quiet and not throw too much popcorn | 00:34 |
| Eickmeyer | Hehe | 00:35 |
| Eickmeyer | In all fairness, I just turned 40. | 00:35 |
| OvenWerks | 4 more years to go... | 00:36 |
| eylul[m] | is suddenly actually feeling young in this conversation | 00:36 |
| Eickmeyer | Heh | 00:36 |
| OvenWerks | eylul[m]: you are probably about my daughter in law's age | 00:36 |
| Eickmeyer | Then there's tsimonq2 who is young enough to be my son. But not as young as my actual son. Just 10 years difference though. | 00:36 |
| eylul[m] | :)) | 00:37 |
| eylul[m] | I would say that 10 years of age in that context is still quite a bit :)) | 00:37 |
| Eickmeyer | That's true. | 00:38 |
| OvenWerks | my son is a Dr. chemmist his wife is an engineer... they met at university | 00:38 |
| eylul[m] | :)) | 00:39 |
| StevenJayCohen | Both my kids are at university, they are 21. He's studying CS and she's studying documentary film | 01:21 |
| === Eickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer[q] | ||
| OvenWerks | just listening to https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/the-spring-of-23 | 06:15 |
| OvenWerks | made on Ardour | 06:15 |
| OvenWerks | Ardour 2 actually | 06:16 |
| StevenJayCohen | Oh, I'm sharing that to book twitter | 06:28 |
| StevenJayCohen | If a machine took stock Ubuntu 20.04, added the Low Latency Kernel and the Music stuff via Ubuntu Studio Installer, and wants to upgrade to 2X.04 in a year or two, does the upgrade take care of the Low Latency Kernel and the Music stuff? Or will I need to upgrade those after the fact via Ubuntu Studio Installer. I'm guessing that the Kernel will be updated, and possibly the pieces that I had installed too, | 06:33 |
| StevenJayCohen | but that I should re-install the Music stuff to pick up any new additions to the distro. Will Ubuntu Studio Control update automatically? | 06:33 |
| OvenWerks | StevenJayCohen: I do not know the answer to that question. | 15:39 |
| OvenWerks | StevenJayCohen: Eickmeyer says that there needs to be a ppa purge before upgrading can be done and I do not know what that does to the system | 15:40 |
| Eickmeyer | All the ppa purge does is remove the PPA and downgrade the packages that are in the PPA to whatever is in the repo. | 15:41 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: ok, so what happens to software installed out side of the release? | 15:42 |
| OvenWerks | are they upgraded? | 15:42 |
| OvenWerks | I think that is what is being asked | 15:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Anything that is in the repos and is installed on the system is upgraded. | 15:43 |
| OvenWerks | StevenJayCohen: so the answer to your question is "yes" | 15:43 |
| OvenWerks | StevenJayCohen: the Studio packages will also be upgraded | 15:44 |
| StevenJayCohen | Perfect | 15:44 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I don't think a clean install will help DjZU. He is likely to make the same mistake on a new install | 15:45 |
| Eickmeyer | At least it would be a good starting point to see where he went wrong. | 15:46 |
| OvenWerks | I would like to see the line in /etc/passwd for this user | 15:47 |
| OvenWerks | the last entry should be: /sbin/nologin or /bin/false | 15:48 |
| OvenWerks | I am wondering if as a part of installing the sw he had to create this user and did so using the new user GUI | 15:49 |
| OvenWerks | Also the user number should be less than 1000 | 16:04 |
| OvenWerks | A package install should take care of that... | 16:04 |
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