[00:10] Eickmeyer: I am satrting to question if plugins with a jack version should even show up in the menu. There are a lot of them... so many that most people will take one loo and not bother. [00:10] *one look [00:12] It is almost worth it's own menu, sub menus and sub sub menus [00:14] OvenWerks: If you install the version of -menu from the Backports PPA, it has the jack versions of lsp-plugins in a submenu of the Effects submenu. [00:14] I am not even sure providing lv2, vst, jack client and ALSA application make sense. [00:14] cool, I will do that [00:15] In other words: I did a thing this morning. [00:16] Regarding DjZU's issue, I think it was a one-off. [00:17] Anything that has an OSS variant should have the OSS variant .desktop file with NoDisplay=true [00:18] we should not support OSS [00:18] Agreed. OSS needs to die in a fire. [00:19] OSS is the thing for free BSD [00:19] it is more "unix-y" [00:19] Well, they can have fun with it. As for me an my house, we shall have ALSA. [00:20] it is not real time friendly [00:21] totally file handle based... blockable [00:21] Right. [00:22] however, I think the switch to plasma should get done first when GG opens up in a few weeks [00:22] I have set mine up to look pretty much like what we have now. [00:23] deskbar at the top, etc. [00:25] the plasma default for menu is close to whisker but I switched to the win95 style menu whic for me is the most productive. (me being strange) [00:25] in the past we have set the title bar colour of the focused window to Studio blue [00:25] Groovy Gorilla. [00:26] GG [00:26] !20.10 [00:26] Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) will be the 33rd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release October 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseSchedule ). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions. [00:26] I don't know if I'm going to go as far as customizing color schemes. [00:27] so long as it contrasts... while I have a CDE look alike, I am not suggesting we do that [00:28] breeze works quite well with gnomed titlebars for now (untill they change to make it look "new" [00:30] I think I'm going to keep Materia (I've already packaged the KDE version), but I'll change the inactive titlebar to a "light" color as the default. Basically, I'll make a new color scheme. Would that be a fair compromise? [00:30] I'll know when I see it :) [00:31] merely changing the text colour does not seem to be enough. a good Title bar BG difference helps a lot [00:32] some of us are over 45... [00:32] * OvenWerks will be 60 this year [00:33] but the rality for me is, if I don't like it I will change it :) [00:34] so do what the artistic people like.... I'll try to be quiet and not throw too much popcorn [00:35] Hehe [00:35] In all fairness, I just turned 40. [00:36] 4 more years to go... [00:36] is suddenly actually feeling young in this conversation [00:36] Heh [00:36] eylul[m]: you are probably about my daughter in law's age [00:36] Then there's tsimonq2 who is young enough to be my son. But not as young as my actual son. Just 10 years difference though. [00:37] :)) [00:37] I would say that 10 years of age in that context is still quite a bit :)) [00:38] That's true. [00:38] my son is a Dr. chemmist his wife is an engineer... they met at university [00:39] :)) [01:21] Both my kids are at university, they are 21. He's studying CS and she's studying documentary film === Eickmeyer is now known as Eickmeyer[q] [06:15] just listening to https://soundcloud.com/davephillips69/the-spring-of-23 [06:15] made on Ardour [06:16] Ardour 2 actually [06:28] Oh, I'm sharing that to book twitter [06:33] If a machine took stock Ubuntu 20.04, added the Low Latency Kernel and the Music stuff via Ubuntu Studio Installer, and wants to upgrade to 2X.04 in a year or two, does the upgrade take care of the Low Latency Kernel and the Music stuff? Or will I need to upgrade those after the fact via Ubuntu Studio Installer. I'm guessing that the Kernel will be updated, and possibly the pieces that I had installed too, [06:33] but that I should re-install the Music stuff to pick up any new additions to the distro. Will Ubuntu Studio Control update automatically? [15:39] StevenJayCohen: I do not know the answer to that question. [15:40] StevenJayCohen: Eickmeyer says that there needs to be a ppa purge before upgrading can be done and I do not know what that does to the system [15:41] All the ppa purge does is remove the PPA and downgrade the packages that are in the PPA to whatever is in the repo. [15:42] Eickmeyer: ok, so what happens to software installed out side of the release? [15:42] are they upgraded? [15:42] I think that is what is being asked [15:43] Anything that is in the repos and is installed on the system is upgraded. [15:43] StevenJayCohen: so the answer to your question is "yes" [15:44] StevenJayCohen: the Studio packages will also be upgraded [15:44] Perfect [15:45] Eickmeyer: I don't think a clean install will help DjZU. He is likely to make the same mistake on a new install [15:46] At least it would be a good starting point to see where he went wrong. [15:47] I would like to see the line in /etc/passwd for this user [15:48] the last entry should be: /sbin/nologin or /bin/false [15:49] I am wondering if as a part of installing the sw he had to create this user and did so using the new user GUI [16:04] Also the user number should be less than 1000 [16:04] A package install should take care of that...