[00:06] <OvenWerks> DjZU... hmm gone, anyway I can't think of any part of autojack that tries to access /var/lib/sendmail/.log ...
[00:06] <OvenWerks> unless the user is trying to be "sendmail" which will cause other problems anyway.
[01:42] <Keres> hello
[01:42] <Keres> are there any hardware Gurus here
[01:42] <Keres> ?
[01:45] <Eickmeyer> !ask | Keres
[01:46] <Keres> I have 2 Envy24 cards that dont want to work in Ubuntustudio20.04
[01:47] <Keres> i had one working in 16.10 on a different motherboard
[01:47] <Keres> do i have to install some drivers?
[01:47] <Eickmeyer> Are these firewire devices?
[01:47] <Keres> PCI
[01:47] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: ^
[01:47] <Eickmeyer> Your area.
[01:48] <Eickmeyer> Keres: If nobody responds, try #lau (Linux Audio Users)
[01:48] <Keres> well, im gonna put the EWS card in since it has more inputs
[01:48] <Keres> i would rather use it since it has 8 inputs
[01:49] <Eickmeyer> Keres: The only thing that would make a difference is the kernel. If there's a regression in the kernel, we can't do much about that.
[01:49] <Keres> but could i install the old drivers?
[01:49] <Eickmeyer> There's no such thing as drivers in Linux for most things.
[01:51] <Keres> it is this module: https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Matrix:Module-ice1712
[01:52] <Eickmeyer> Keres: Follow the instructions on that page then.
[01:52] <Keres> let me shutdown to change cards, but i will be right back to nag you
[01:52] <Eickmeyer> Keres: I'm not a hardware expert by any means.
[01:59] <Keres> what if lshw and lspci doesn't see my PCI soundcard?
[02:17] <OvenWerks> Keres: That should already be there by default
[02:18] <Keres> maybe this mobo is cracked up?
[02:19] <OvenWerks> Keres: what do you see from: cat /proc/interupts |pastbinit
[02:19] <OvenWerks> possible. I have a delta66 that still works in 20.04
[02:20] <OvenWerks> I is also an ice1712
[02:20] <Keres> cat: /proc/interupts: No such file or directoryCommand 'pastbinit' not found, did you mean:  command 'pastebinit' from deb pastebinit (1.5.1-1)Try: sudo apt install <deb name>
[02:20] <Keres> i just set this up
[02:21] <OvenWerks> I am not at my 20204 machine right now... Eickmeyer did we drop pastebinit?
[02:21] <OvenWerks> oh I spelled it wrong
[02:21] <OvenWerks> Keres: cat /proc/interupts |pastebinit
[02:22] <Eickmeyer> !info pastebinit focal
[02:22] <OvenWerks> And thats probaly wrong too. Just had a nop not woke up yet
[02:23] <Keres> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BMbJVFr5gB/
[02:24] <OvenWerks> Ya, it looks like your card is not being picked up.
[02:24] <Keres> maybe it is working?
[02:25] <OvenWerks> to me that is a hw problem with either the card or MB
[02:26] <Keres> ah
[02:26] <Keres> ok i think its the modo
[02:26] <Keres> had problems booting for no reason, then the CPU fan bracket was looose...
[02:26] <Keres> this board is old.
[02:26] <Keres> i know this card works
[02:27] <Keres> thank you so much!
[11:24] <bugsle_cz[m]> Hello. I have another problem... my mixxx is behaving like icecast creadentials are shoutcast, so it does not connect to the server. Any idea how to make it work?  Thanks!
[12:23] <DjZU> Hi there, autojack is trying to start at boot for user 'smmsp' and produce a crash popup because it fails to write in '/var/lib/sendmail/.log'. How to prevent autojack to start for this user?
[13:00] <StevenJayCohen> DjZU: How did you start Jack? QJAckCtl or Ubuntu Studio Controls or some other way?
[13:01] <StevenJayCohen> I get that you are asking about autojack, I'm wanting to know how you typically start jack when there isn't an issue
[13:33] <DjZU> StevenJayCohen: I didn't start Jack actually because I use the same system for other usages than audio as well. For some reasons I needed to update to 20.04. It's seems fine for me to use Ubuntu Studio Controls at this point and as far I digged into it, autojack is from ubunstudio-controls. When I check the system logs, I see that autojack is
[13:33] <DjZU> started for two legititame users with their automatic session opening at boot and it's ok, but I also have some session opening for 'smmsp' for which the Sound Service and autojack are tryng to start but it fails and causes the annoying crash popup.
[13:52] <StevenJayCohen> Open Ubuntu Studio Controls, turn off Jack, and restart. Does it re-occur?
[13:57] <DjZU> StevenJayCohen: it doesn't re-occur, it only occurs at boot and causes an annoying popup. I found 'ConditionUser=!root' in '/etc/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pulseaudio.socket', maybe I can tweak this to avoid the Sound Service to start for the user 'smmsp' ?
[14:00] <StevenJayCohen> <StevenJayCohen "Open Ubuntu Studio Controls, tur"> DjZU: HAve you done these ^^^ steps? After restarting does the error happen after having done this?
[14:02] <StevenJayCohen> DjZU: I am asking you to turn off Jack from Ubuntu Studio Controls and then reboot your machine.
[14:06] <DjZU> StevenJayCohen: I did these steps and the problem re-occurs at boot
[14:09] <StevenJayCohen> And JAck was off, as far as Ubuntu Studio Controls was concerned? When you open it, it doesn't show started?
[14:14] <DjZU> Correct, when I open it, it says it is stopped indeed. My audio interface is not even connected as I don't use it these days.
[14:17] <StevenJayCohen> If you open qJackCtl, does it see an active session?
[14:19] <DjZU> When I open qJackCtl, it is stopped as expected and there is nothing listed when I choose Session
[14:21] <StevenJayCohen> Sorry if my questions seem a bit plodding. Controls only ever sees sessions that it starts, so I was making sure that nothing else was trying to start a session. And, Controls settings persist accross reboots
[14:25] <StevenJayCohen> That user seems to be trying to send an error log and is failing. See this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=285897
[14:25] <StevenJayCohen> Once it sends the error report, it will stop poking at sendmail during boot
[14:28] <StevenJayCohen> Or, if you follow the whole thread, you can just empty the queue and it should go away
[14:34] <DjZU> Thank you for trying to help. My understand is that the Sound Service is started for every session at boot. I can see ~/.log/autojack.log in my home but the same cannot be written to /var/lib/sendmail/.log/autojack.log. Changing the ownership of /var/lib/sendmail/ from 'ssmta' seems a dirty hack. I sent the crash report and did not remove the
[14:34] <DjZU> .crash file in /var/crash but the problem is still found in the system logs and the annoying popup does reappears. What do you mean by "empty the queue'?
[14:35] <DjZU> from 'ssmta' to 'root' *
[14:35] <StevenJayCohen> clear the crash file
[14:35] <DjZU> I already tried that before
[14:36] <StevenJayCohen> It's trying to use sendmail and failing. So, either change permissions so it can send or stop it wanting to send the mail
[14:36] <StevenJayCohen> you'd stop it wanting to send by doing 2 things, clearing the sendmail queue and also removing the crash file
[14:44] <DjZU> I cannot write anymore here...
[14:44] <DjZU> '/var/spool/mqueue' is empty. Sendmail is working anyway. But at every boot there is some session opening for the user 'smmsp' and the sound service is trying to start and autojack fails to write in the 'smmsp' home located at /var/lib/sendmail/
[15:20] <DjZU> I still don't understand why it is trying to write to /var/lib/sendmail/.log/autojack.log
[15:30] <Eickmeyer> DjZU: OvenWerks and I had a brief conversation about that, and autojack doesn't even touch sendmail. My guess is something got messed-up in your system somehow. At this point, I'd recommend backing-up your home directory and doing a clean install.
[15:31] <Eickmeyer> DjZU: Otherwise you could be chasing your tail forever figuring this out.
[15:33] <OvenWerks> DjZU: this is an interesting problem.
[15:35] <OvenWerks> it seems it comes from starting autojack via systemd maybe
[15:35] <OvenWerks> netsplit at the wrong time...
[17:09] <rogman[m]> Hey, does exits any option to uninstall the propietär Nvidia Driver in UbuntStudio 20.04?
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> rogman[m]: Yes. Open Software & Updates, go to "Additional Drivers" switch to "Noveau". However, in my experience, the performance of the Noveau driver is horrible compared to the proprietary.
[17:17] <rogman[m]> <Eickmeyer "rogman: Yes. Open Software & Upd"> I try out this but after the first restart i have a black start screen.
[17:17] <Eickmeyer> rogman[m]: Then it's very possible you have to have the proprietary driver for your system. Not all Nvidia systems are compatible with Noveau.
[17:18] <rogman[m]> <Eickmeyer "rogman: Then it's very possible "> ???
[17:20] <Eickmeyer> I don't know how to make that more clear.
[17:20] <rogman[m]> This is new for me! UbuntuStudio 19.10 works fine whit out the Nvidia Driver. This the same LapTop?!
[17:20] <Eickmeyer> rogman[m]: You can try asking on #freenode_#ubuntu:matrix.org since it's not necessarily an Ubuntu Studo-specific issue.
[17:21] <Eickmeyer> !nvidia
[17:21] <Eickmeyer> !noveau
[21:34] <Rukkooon> Hello. I installed UbuntuStudio and every reboot it changes my display settings back to [-] mirror displays. any way to prevent that?
[21:34] <Rukkooon> I made a profile so i can quickly revert to the proper settings. But would be nice if i would not have to do that every reboot so any tips would be appreciated.
[21:35] <Eickmeyer> Rukkooon: It should stay between boots. Check in #xubuntu for how to do that (they maintain the DE, we don't).
[21:35] <Rukkooon> I found something a bout editting Monitors.xml but that file is not there.
[21:35] <Rukkooon> okay.. what's DE?
[21:35] <Eickmeyer> Desktop Environment
[21:35] <oplife> Any known issues upgrading to 20.04 ?
[21:36] <Eickmeyer> oplife: Check the release notes.
[21:36] <oplife> apart from on the blog post
[21:36] <oplife> yeah will do
[21:36] <oplife> very nice new website!
[21:36] <Eickmeyer> Thanks.
[21:37] <oplife> Did you make it? :)
[21:39] <lungas> Hello!
[21:39] <oplife> I should probably look that up too hehe.
[21:39] <oplife> Hello Lungas
[21:40] <lungas> Hello! Is there any way to contribute to the project? I'm a UI and UX designer, and I would like to contribute if possible.
[21:48] <oplife> great lungas :) there are many ways: https://ubuntustudio.org/contribute/
[21:48] <oplife> Welcome by the way :)
[21:49] <lungas> I went to this link and instructed to join this IRC channel. Is there any email that I can send as artwork that we developed in Ubuntu Studio?
[21:49] <lungas> Thanks
[21:53] <oplife> Ah cool, sorry for repeating that link to you. I don't know, I'm currently not a contributor myself although I really like this project
[21:54] <lungas1> no problem
[21:55] <lungas1> I am very grateful to Ubuntustudio. I am a professor of interface designer, and I am teaching open source tools to my students.
[21:55] <oplife> lungas1, maybe project leader Eickmeyer knows where you can help with UI/UX. I just read up on https://ubuntustudio.org/2020/04/ubuntu-studio-20-04-lts-released/ that next release will have KDE Plasma so maybe there are UI/UX things to help with to make it work smooth with Ubuntu Studio 20.10
[21:56] <Rukkoon> OKay i fixed the display thing. Only problem i have now is that i want edge resistance as i said above (Can't see it myself coz i relogged to test the other fix)
[21:56] <oplife> lungas1, wow that's cool! happy to hear you're using it to teach open source to students, may I ask where in the world that is? Very fortunate students
[21:56] <Rukkoon> ow damn
[21:56] <Rukkoon> i am in the wrong one again :)
[21:56] <lungas1> I created a website to promote the possibility of working with Design in a Linux environment. And I built it using only open source tools. Only the WP theme was paid for.
[21:59] <oplife> cool lungas1, do you have a URL for preview?
[22:00] <oplife> super cool to read about the new website and the gift of the WP theme https://ubuntustudio.org/2020/01/new-website/
[22:00] <lungas1> oplife, Good idea, maybe I can contribute in some way, if they have space in the team.
[22:02] <Eickmeyer> Can we take non-support discussion to #ubuntustudio-offtopic? BTW, I'm out grocery shopping. :)
[22:02] <lungas1> oplife, I'm brazilian. And I teach at a private university. I created an extension course with the theme: Design with Free Software. I asked the coordinator to create vacancies for needy people. Because some are unable to pay. It is a way to contribute in some way.
[22:03] <oplife> Eickmeyer, sorry, yes.
[22:03] <lungas1> oplife - https://designelinux.com.br/
[22:04] <oplife> lungas1, I'll move over to #ubuntustudio-offtopic please join me there
[22:04] <Rukkoon> They not very talkative bunch over in xubunu.. all devving hard in their code i bet.
[22:05] <lungas1> sorry Eickmeyer
[22:05] <Eickmeyer>  Rukkoon: they have a separate dev room. Try #xfce
[22:07] <Rukkoon> Nah, that seems improper. To just barge in there. i will just wait in xubuntu. I have to stalk it now or i miss the question.,forgot my bouncerpassword. Thanks though. cu all later sometime.