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Roeyhi00:00
Roeyzoom crashes for me on Kubuntu 20.04; how can I diagnose the exact problem?00:01
valoriesame here Roey although I've not tried it yet in 20.0400:05
valorieI gave up and installed a plugin for it in chrome00:05
Roeyok00:05
Roeyvalorie: it worked on 19.10 for me00:05
valorieick software anyway....00:05
valorieoh, didn't for me00:05
Roeyyeah agreed.00:05
valoriebut now, dinner00:05
RoeyWonderful!00:06
RoeyWonderufl for me!00:06
Unit193Run it from the terminal, see if there's any output?00:06
RoeyI have a Zoom date tomorrow!00:06
Roeyfuck it, ARGH00:06
RoeyI swear.. linux fucking sucks sometimes.00:06
RoeyUnit193: yes I did00:06
Roeyuni https://pastebin.com/0WqwEA4t00:07
RoeyUnit193: ^00:07
Unit193Relatedly, it seems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/159073700:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1590737 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Failed to create OpenGL context for format QSurfaceFormat(version 2.0, options QFlags(), depthBufferSize 24, redBufferSize -1, greenBufferSize -1, blueBufferSize -1, alphaBufferSize -1, stencilBufferSize 8, samples -1, swapBehavior 2, swapInterval 1, profile 0) Aborted (core dumped)" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:09
RoeyUnit193: aye, ok00:09
Unit193nvidia graphics?00:10
RoeyYEP00:10
Roeyya know what00:10
RoeyI'm on the stock 390 drivers.00:10
RoeyI can install the 440 drivers that I have, reboot nad all.00:10
RoeyUnit193: thank you for breaking this down for me, I'll bbiab00:10
RoeyUnit193: also, f nvidia00:11
Roeynow I need to get out of X just to install the commercial drivers even.00:11
Unit193Hah.00:12
RoeyARGGGGH and now I do Reboot but it doesn't do it.00:13
Roeyksmserver crashe sor something00:13
IrcsomeBotZendrilSeven was added by: ZendrilSeven00:33
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> Currently running 20.04 (Ubuntu with kde desktop) that I upgraded from 19.10. I want to get the zfs support..  I heard kubuntu doesn't do zfs during install.. is that right?00:34
RoeyUnit193: hi!!!!100:40
RoeyI installed the nvidia440 drivers over hte nvidia390 stock drivers that came with Kubunbtu 20.04, and Zoom works now.  Also, Krunner works again (where before on 20.04, it would crash every time i ran it)00:41
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> ok.. I confirmed it from the kubuntu releases page.. ubiquity installer wasn't updated to includes the zfs installer00:51
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> I'm going to install regular ubuntu, then install kde like i currently have done..00:52
valorieyou don't want to just upgrade?00:53
valorieimo it is better to install ubuntu-minimum if that's the plan00:54
valorieotherwise you are left with all the gnome suff00:54
valoriestuff00:54
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> true..00:54
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> I've already done an upgrade.. so I'm currently on 20.04 ubuntu where I've installed kde..  but I want to do zfs on root..00:55
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> so i figured i would just start sorta fresh00:55
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> good point about ubuntu minimal tho.00:55
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> what is the kde that gets as close as possible to kubuntu?    kubuntu-desktop or something like that?00:56
valoriecheck out the server ISOs if you want the lamp stack00:56
valorieyes00:56
Sheshis there any ubuntu blog which we can refer to ? Like OMG Ubuntu01:45
IrcsomeBotmello009 was added by: mello00902:01
IrcsomeBot<mello009> Hi guys, I hope you guys are safe at home during this pandemic.02:02
IrcsomeBot<mello009> My question: if we don't create a swap partition while installing kubunty will it automatically create swap file?02:03
Sheshhello @guiverc02:03
SheshYou are from Lubuntu, right ? Nice to see you here02:04
guivercG'day Shesh; yeah, I lurk and i autojoin this room when I'm using this (my main box; since jphilipz flavors beta  reach out I think); & thanks02:05
Shesh:)02:11
Sheshhave a great time02:11
valorienot a guy, but yes, safe at home02:18
valorieubuntu uses swap files and they are auto-created, yes02:18
valorieguiverc: welcome02:18
valorieShesh: you might check out ubuntu planet02:19
valorieand if you have a blog you should add yours there02:19
guivercthanks valorie02:23
valorie:-)02:23
valorieplanet is some old software but it still works!02:23
SheshThanks @valorie02:35
valorie:-)02:36
Shesh:)02:36
valoriekde has one too, as I think gnome does02:36
SheshI see. May I know the one that KDE owns ?02:37
Sheshhttps://planet.kde.org/02:39
valoriethese days I mostly read twitter instead of the planet02:49
valorietsk tsk02:49
viewer|6Hi03:27
hugo_i have one error: Err:13 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu disco-security Release any suggerest?04:01
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valoriehugo, are you running disco?04:42
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JameCan someone help me with a script to kill " KScreen2 " after the desktop loads. I need to do something about these popups05:01
diogenes_Jame, killall name05:02
Jame@diogenes , thanks. Where and how to put it ?05:04
Jamecurrently I use settings > background services. I have to do it manually each time05:05
Jameeach time I restart the PC05:06
valoriewouldn't it be more convenient to just stop the popups directly?05:11
* valorie gets zero popups05:11
Jamehi valorie05:12
Jamethe one is blue is a command ?05:12
valoriehi Jame05:12
JameI like to have other popups05:12
JameBut the extend screen popup comes once in 30 seconds05:12
valoriekrunner solves a lot of problems for me05:12
Jametell me how to do it please05:12
valoriealt+space and type kscreen05:13
valorieshould take you right to where you configure it in system settings05:13
Jameif I disable KScreen 2 from startup, will screen not load at all ?05:13
valorienotifications is what you want to end, correct?05:13
valorieyou are configuring it, not killing it05:14
Jamethe popup05:14
Jamecomes in the middle of the screen05:14
Jamehttps://i.stack.imgur.com/5qmEk.jpg05:14
Jameplease see05:14
valorieaha!05:14
valoriethat comes up for me when I hit f705:15
Jameit comes for me every 30 seconds05:15
valorieit is for controlling multiple monitors, changing to presentation mode, etc.05:15
JameI cannot type at all05:15
valoriewoah05:15
valoriethat's very messed up05:15
Jamelooks like it is a bug. I have to turn it off in background services05:15
Jamein system monitor05:16
valoriesounds like you might have a mis-mapped key or something05:16
Jameit says kscreen_backend_launcher05:16
JameI see05:16
JameIs there any fix possible ?05:16
valoriebut yes, you could disable that05:16
valoriejust the launcher05:16
JameI am doing it every time I restart05:17
valorieplay around in systemsettings05:17
valoriesee what you can find05:17
valoriekrunner usually gets you right where you need to be05:17
valoriepossibly asking in #kde would get you better answers05:18
valorieI've never had a problem with it05:18
JameI see, thanks. Let me see05:18
Jameyou people nice05:21
valoriethanks05:22
Jame:)05:22
valoriebtw, to get the line blue, just start it with /me05:22
* valorie is very glad to meet ya05:22
Jame+105:22
* Jame same here :)05:23
valorie:-)05:23
JameI thought people will be rude in IRC05:23
Jamehaven't used it much05:23
valoriesome are, I suppose05:24
valorieI don't stay in the rude places05:24
JameI am sure about it :)05:24
valoriethat's why I stayed around kubuntu and KDE05:25
Jamethat is true. Met only nice people so far05:25
Jamewhat if we disable KScreen 205:26
Jamewill the monitor stop altogether ?05:26
Jametoo much obsessed with it :(05:26
valorieI don't think it's a problem with kscreen05:27
JameI am very much impressed with Kubuntu. Never thought it will be this great05:27
JameI see05:27
valorieit is just the menu continuing to pop up05:27
valorieyou are the first person I've ever heard ask about something like this05:28
Jametrue. Shouldn't it happen only when the system detect a monitor05:28
Jameoh05:28
valoriewhich makes me suspect hardware05:28
valorieyes05:28
JameI had this issue with Live USB as well05:28
JameI see05:28
valorieor if you press the key05:28
valoriedoes it pop up if you click f7?05:29
valorieerrr, alt+f705:30
Jamelet me try05:31
Jameno, it doesn't05:31
valorieinterestig05:32
valorieerr, interesting05:32
Jameneither f7 , nor alt f7 change anything05:33
valorieI wonder if you set a shortcut to it05:34
valorieif you could just hit that and get rid of it05:34
valorieshortcut in krunner05:35
JameI was hoping to find a script, which I place on desktop. Click and popup is gone05:35
Jamedreams ..05:35
valoriewell, I've never heard of this before, so I don't know who would make such a script05:35
valorieinstead of fixing the problem....05:35
Jameit's ok05:36
Jamewe got this far :)05:36
valorieno, it sounds horrible05:36
Jameok05:36
Jamewhat can we do05:36
valoriewell, you asked in #kde, but it is the weekend05:37
Jamegot it :(05:37
valorie#kde is most active in euro-working hours05:37
IrcsomeBotParvez was added by: Parvez05:37
JameOh05:38
valoriemost devel are european05:38
JameGot it :)05:38
JameI am able to work now. Stopping KScreen 2 through system settings. Now need find the real fix.05:39
JameAs you said, this is a workaround05:39
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> After install kubuntu 20.04,routet wifi os working but my android hotspot is connected but no net connection..Where is the problem? I change dns 8.8.8.8 but not fixed...fix mrthod pls05:39
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> After install kubuntu 20.04,router wifi os working but my android hotspot is connected but no net connection..Where is the problem? I change dns 8.8.8.8 but not fixed...fix method pls05:40
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> After install kubuntu 20.04,routet wifi is working but my android hotspot is connected but no net connection..Where is the problem? I change dns 8.8.8.8 but not fixed...fix mrthod pls05:40
valorie@Parvez, doesn't not help to repeat05:40
valorieI can't help, sorry05:40
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Why??05:40
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Anyone?05:40
valorieI don't know anything about hotspots05:41
valorienot many people at their computers now05:41
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Oh05:41
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Anyone use chrome on kubuntu?05:41
valorieI do05:41
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> How you install?05:41
valoriewhy?05:41
valorie!chrome05:42
guivercDo you get a ip address `ip addr`, is it routed to your access point (`ip route`) can you ping your router?05:42
guivercIrcsomeBot, ^05:42
valorieoh, I never do stuff like that, sorry05:42
valorieoops05:42
valorieguiverc: if you want to talk to @Parvez you have to type the nick like that05:42
valorieunfortunately05:42
guivercmy mistake for leaving off the ... and I completely missed the bot ref :(05:43
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> I didnt understand05:43
guiverc@Parvez, Do you get a ip address `ip addr`, is it routed to your access point (`ip route`) can you ping your router?05:43
valorie@Parvez, look at https://itsfoss.com/install-chrome-ubuntu/05:43
valorieUbuntu cannot provide it directly05:44
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Tnx05:44
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> I didnt know about ping05:44
JameParvez: you can go to Google Chrome website and follow their instructions05:44
viewer|18Hi05:44
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Can you tell me details05:44
JameI think they have a deb file05:44
viewer|18Can you guys help me to install kubuntu alongside windows05:45
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Yeah05:45
viewer|18How many partitions do I need?05:45
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> I install via dpkg in terminal but its not installed05:45
JameParvez : how hard is it to download a deb file and double click it05:46
Jametada, you are through05:46
JameParvez: I will leave the decision to you. :)05:46
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Ok I will try05:46
Jamesure, it works.05:47
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> I love terminal so I forget double click😅05:47
guiverc@Parvez, I use `ip addr` to ensure my network devices have an ip address (`ip link` will list devices, i'm assuming its recognized), `ip route` to view routing addresses.  if both look okay, I ping my router (`ping 192.168.14.16` for me; detail viewable via `ip route` for my box which gets address from dhcp).  then I ping external (ping 8.8.8.8 or dns.google.com; that'll confirm network addresses work)..05:50
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> Tnxxx..05:59
IrcsomeBot<Parvez> I Will try later bro05:59
guiverc@Parvez, fyi: if you can ping google via `ping 8.8.8.8` then network is all good, however if `ping dns.google.com` fails; then you have DNS issue which is what the adding of 8.8.8.8 as nameserver is used to fix..06:27
IrcsomeBot<Swift110> Hey06:42
crash_does anyone else have the same bug as me? when i close the lid on my laptop and the come back to the computer a while later to wake it up, tap to click is no longer working. so i need to reboot to get it to work again.06:51
wingedrhinoIs this a known bug? When I'm logged out due to inactivity, my session gets nuked. Trying to run a bunch of scripts to install software over a slow internet in Kubuntu 20.04.06:52
wingedrhinoIt's my first login BTW.06:52
wingedrhinoThis happened last night but I assumed it was because I was too sleepy to pay attention. It happened again now.06:53
wingedrhinoWhen I unlock my screen, I get a spinner (like the one that comes when plasma is setting up for the first time) and then I see a blank session06:53
wingedrhinoI have selected "Start With An Empty Session" as the On Login action in KDE System Settings though. But this should have nothing to do with what I'm currently experiencing.06:55
LLQHi,I have a problem need help. When I close Krita app in Kubuntu 20.04LTS,it always has errors after exiting krita.But it has no errors when using krita.how to solve this bug?07:48
LLQI install krita by using this command "apt install krita".07:49
IrcsomeBotDavid was added by: David08:57
MatanjahHello09:18
MatanjahI got problem with kubuntu on my laptop. Can I ask here for help?09:19
nopanicyes09:21
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bh__is any one?09:26
bh_is any one?09:27
bh_is any body?09:28
amundsenhi09:37
bh_lol09:39
bh_where are u from?09:39
amundseni've just installed kubuntu 20.04 and can't run thunderbird09:39
amundsenapt install thunderbird but it doesn't appear in kde menu09:39
bh_my thunderbird is fine09:40
bh_run thunderbird in command line, lookup what's happend09:41
amundsenit says thta thunderbird ins't installed09:42
amundsenbut when i run apt install thunderbird and says ints installed09:43
RikMillssudo apt install --reinstall thunderbird09:44
bh_RikMills is right09:45
amundsenthanks09:46
amundsen:)09:46
amundsenit worked09:46
RikMillssound like a bug in apt knowing the correct status09:46
bh_o_o09:46
RikMillswhich makes sense if reinstall helped09:47
RikMillsI can't reproduce it here though09:47
bh_😇09:48
bh_where are you guys from🤪. I'm happy to cheat with you09:49
bh_chat, sorry09:49
amundsenbasque country (northern spain)09:50
bh_I am from China, I am working, but I am goofing-off09:52
bh_🤫09:53
amundsenbh_: working on sunday...09:55
amundsenhumm09:55
amundsenwhat a pity09:56
bh_This chatroom is convenient, classic and funny. but people is too few09:56
bh_😭09:57
garrimHi all. I'm feeling rathar dumb here. I'm running Kubuntu 19.10 and when I run do-release-upgrade I get a 'No upgrades avaliable'  So what am I doing wrong?10:08
bh_me too10:09
bh_you need to run this: sudo do-release-upgrade -d10:09
garrimyeah, sorry - I described it incorrectly - I did use sudo10:10
garrimOH!  the -d10:10
bh_yep! -d10:10
IrcsomeBot<darkknight1608> It worked for me. I upgraded successfully with -d10:11
garrimthat might do the trick...  what dies the -d do?  (haha  de-do-de-do...sorry, very tired now)10:11
bh_with -d, It'll upgrade to the development release10:12
bh_the kubuntu 20.20LTS upgrade package look like didn't released10:13
bh_so , we use development release10:14
bh_🧐10:14
RikMillsthe ubuntu release team deliberately do not enable upgrades right away10:14
RikMillsthey will probably enable in the coming week once they are happy there are no nasty upgrade bugs that got missed10:15
garrimI see. Well thanks for the help folks!10:16
IrcsomeBotSupun Wijesinghe was added by: Supun Wijesinghe10:23
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> Hello10:24
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> Is there anyone10:24
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> Need help10:24
mparillo!ask10:25
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:25
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> Ok thanks10:26
MetamorphosisHello, has been a change of sound drivers in 20.04? My microphone (both external and internal laptop mic) worked just fine in Kubuntu 18.04.4. now it sounds like I'm speaking from a cave or something. How can I fix it?10:31
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> I just now installed kubuntu and im new to it. When I open dolphin, it shows my hard drive as two devices. One is 148GB hard drive and other one is 512MB hard drive..  why is is shown like that and it is possible to unmount too.10:31
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/bOo0e8BZ/file_28295.jpg10:31
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> Need clarification10:32
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Hi, maybe that 512 mb partition is a system partition10:43
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> Is it common for every installation10:47
MetamorphosisWhen I'm installing a .deb file (in this case Viber messenger), package installer just says "Error: Cannot satisfy dependencies." How can I find which dependencies are missing?10:47
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> @Franzpow, Is it common for every installation ?10:54
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @Supun Wijesinghe, I think that is common,later I am gonna check if I have it on my kubuntu installation10:57
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> @Franzpow, Please so... please let me know10:58
DeknosMetamorphosis, try 'apt-get -f install' :D11:07
Deknosor you look into the dependencies with dpkg-deb -I file or dpkg-deb -W file.11:08
Deknosthat should tell you the dependencies11:08
Deknoswhich you should install via apt11:09
MetamorphosisDeknos I'm a little noob, I downloaded the deb file from the Viber website. but it's not in repos11:13
Deknosyeah11:13
Deknosi figured.11:13
Deknosso.. command line? how unexperienced are you?11:14
MetamorphosisDeknos how can I install a deb file using command line? I have experience installing a tarball before.11:18
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Deknosgo into the directory where the deb file is11:41
Deknosbefore i go further: i give no garantee that your actions wont brick the system. i dont know your application.11:41
Deknosbut assumed that the debfile is good11:42
Deknosyou can do the following:11:42
Deknosdpkg -i ./debfile.deb11:42
Deknosthen11:42
Deknosapt-get -f install11:42
Deknosand sometimes THEN11:42
Deknosdpkg -i ./debfile.deb11:42
Deknosagain11:42
Deknosif the dpkg -i command does not work11:42
Deknosyou can doo dpkg-deb -I ./debfile.deb or dpkg-deb -W ./debfile.deb11:43
Deknosthat will show you the dependencies perhaps which you can install via apt install dependencyname11:43
Deknosis there no snap or appimage or flatpak of your application?11:43
MetamorphosisDeknos there is an unofficial snap version but I want to use the updated one.11:51
IrcsomeBotDagmar Wieland was added by: Dagmar Wieland11:51
Metamorphosiswww.viber.com11:51
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> Hi everyone!11:52
MetamorphosisViber is an Skype alternative which is very popular in some countries.11:52
MetamorphosisIt's available natively on Linux11:52
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> In the system tray, no 'software updates' indicator shows up. Before 20.04, there was a small circle with an arrow inside and sometimes a blue dot. Am I missing a package or something?11:55
BluesKajHowdy all11:59
MetamorphosisHello BluesKaj12:02
BluesKajni Metamorphosis12:19
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> @Supun Wijesinghe, I have not that partition visible on dolphin but maybe it appears because of something selected during installation process?12:20
DeknosMetamorphosis, link?12:22
Metamorphosiswww.viber.com12:23
MetamorphosisIt was in Ubuntu repos but it's gone since 201812:24
MetamorphosisIt was in Ubuntu repos but it's gone since 201812:24
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> I have an identical install of Kubuntu 20.04 on another machine and there is the 'Updates' showing up in the system tray / system tray settings 😐12:28
BluesKaj@Dagmar Wieland, could be a driver upgrade or some such12:30
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> No, I mean in the system tray, on one machine there is no option to show the 'updates' indicator. It's just not there. All other options are there and both machines.12:32
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> Did a fresh install yesterday on both machines.12:34
IrcsomeBot<Vincenzo Bitti> dnf12:34
BluesKaj@Dagmar Wieland, configure your system tray12:34
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> I tried. It has about 20 options, but the 'Updates' isn't there.12:35
BluesKajupdates are part of your notifications12:36
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> https://i.postimg.cc/wMjg3hW8/Screenshot-20200426-143714.png12:40
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> The option is just not there 😐12:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> What happens if you check  the Show all entries box at the top ("Immer all Eintrage anzeigen")?12:43
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> Changes the allways active entries to 'show when relevant'12:45
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> BTW: The other machine's UI uses american english, the affected uses german. maybe that broke something?12:46
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> I could create a new user. maybe this user's config is somehow damaged12:47
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Does the current user have sudo privileges? Also, ensure the following plasma packages are installed https://pastebin.com/XshVuMzV12:50
BluesKaj@Dagmar Wieland, just run sudo apt update;sudo apt upgrade in the konsole once/day and you should be fine :-)12:51
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> Sorry! I've found it. Was of course my own mistake. 😑12:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Please share as I have no idea how that can happen.12:52
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> In system settings, i've had deactivated 'background services' -> 'Status Notifier Manager'12:53
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> Sorry for bothering you guys!12:53
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> No problem.  The forum is for all of us to help each other and learn new stuff.  I learned something today. :)12:58
IrcsomeBot<Dagmar Wieland> Hehe. Thank you very much for your support!12:59
mind_sagehey, is the new kubuntu out?13:15
Piratyhi. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu mentions: "Allow upgrades to LTS releases (if not already set). " any reference to what it refers to is missing. how to ensure that from cli? where to configure it?13:15
mind_sagehow is it different from 18.04? what are the new features? thanks!13:16
Piratyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu13:16
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Jame#kde13:19
kane_Hey13:25
mind_sagehi13:25
Jamehello13:25
kane_KDE is supercool!!13:26
Jameit certainly is13:26
Jame:)13:26
Piratyi like i313:26
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> They're both cool. Plasma and i313:29
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I am using both but one is a window manager and another is a desktop environment13:30
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Very different concepts13:30
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IrcsomeBot<mello009> I have a doubt will kubuntu automatically create a swap file if I don't create a swap partition?13:57
IrcsomeBot<mello009> Thanks stay safe.13:57
amundsenhi14:32
amundsendoes anybody know why amarok has disapeared from kubuntu repos?14:32
amundsennothing happens when i execute apt install amarok14:33
RikMillsbecause it's development is dead, and it uses qt4 which is now unsupported14:34
amundsen:(14:36
amundsenit was a great mp3 player14:36
otomoI like the new one, Elisa even more14:41
ecovI have laptop with an SSD and ubuntu installed, I'm going to be adding an HDD to the ultrabay slot as extra storage - how should I go about mounting on boot14:41
ecovwhere should I make my mount point?  /mount?  /media?14:41
ecovalso, I then add a line to fstab to mount on boot14:41
ecov?14:41
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> @Franzpow, No... I didn’t select anything. Only select “ entire disk” partition     😕14:50
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @ecov, You can create your mount point on any empty directory. i.e. /mnt/media would be fine. The only caveat is not to block a directory a dynamically mounted directory such as /media/<user>.14:58
ecovI see14:58
ecovThanks DarinMiller14:58
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doug_Hi all, can anyone pass me the default settings for Kmail Local Files (under accounts)? I seem to have screwed something up, and kmail spawns a directory called "file:" under ~/.15:41
drblahDoes anyone know if there is a way to skip the integrity check when booting the 20.04 installer from USB flash? I am trying to install it on a weak computer and it is taking forever to do the check. I all ready tried CTRL+c but it does not seem to do anything.15:47
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The ctrl-c seems to be timing "thing" where it works depending on where in the check the ctl-c is pressed.   I have seen it work immediately and also seen it not work at all.16:26
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Guest82959Hi all. I have the BETA of Kubuntu 20.04 installed on a machine. If I do a full upgrade via apt, will that take me to the official release, or do I need to nuke & pave?16:30
douglcan someone help me figure out how to mount my samba shares on my notebook after it connects to wifi... simple fstab entries worked on 18.04.19.04 19.10 but not 20.04 can anyone explain?16:36
douglI have been googling hard core for 2 days an nothing I try works16:37
douglautofs gigolo fstab16:37
ecovwhat does your fstab look like16:53
ecovdougl:16:53
douglecov - sec google was distracting me16:53
ecovuse pastebin perhaps16:53
douglecov, https://pastebin.com/dfsdeT8t contains one of the 4 (q thru u shares)16:57
douglhey BluesKaj - how are you16:58
BluesKajhi dougl, fine here, how about you?16:59
douglecov, entries for my 5 shares16:59
douglBluesKaj, very well thanks16:59
BluesKajgood too hear dougl...i wondered where you disappeared to :-)17:00
BluesKajto hear17:00
douglhad some health issues - but I am feeling much better now17:01
BluesKajgood :-)17:01
douglhow is 20.04 treating you?17:02
BluesKajit's seems ok , except suddenly ssh refuses to connect to the other computers and vice versa17:03
BluesKajbeen exploring it could be, but no luck so far17:04
BluesKajwhat17:04
douglhmmm, stock install? right out of the box?17:06
* dougl ssh into samba share raspberry pi17:06
douglBluesKaj, does it give you an error?17:07
douglecov, it was just one line - lol, what do you think?17:08
dougltrying to mount 4 samba shares hosted on raspberry pi but I need to do it after my wifi starts on my notebook17:15
douglit worked on kubuntu 18.04 19.04 and 19.10 with just a simple entry for each share - //192.168.0.32/U_Drive /mnt/u_drive cifs vers=2.0,user=username,password=userpassword,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0 20.04 does not work17:16
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> dougl do the mounts work after wifi connects if you run "sudo mount -a"17:20
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Some of the old samba functionality has been replaced, but I have not attempted to mount file systems in 20.04.17:21
douglIrcsomeBot, thank you - yes they work flawlessly17:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, so your fstab is not the issue, just the timing of the mounts.  I have no idea how to control ordering of events such as prioritize network connect prior to fstab mount...17:24
douglsame - thinking of a service to mount the shares but don't know if the service will exec before wifi connect17:25
douglI can't even figure out what to google for...17:28
DragnslcrYou could create a systemd service to do the mount. I know you can set prerequisites, so you should be able to set it to run after a network connection is available.17:35
DragnslcrI'm not sure if that's the easiest way to do it, but it's an option17:36
douglI am sure it is not the easiest way Dragnslcr but it looks like it is my only option I can find17:37
Nomad_anyone else having issues with snap based apps blowing up on 20.04 with an "fopen" permission error in /sys?   snapd v 2.44.3+20.04 , all versions of chromium and discord do it17:46
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> regarding snaps, someone discovered yesterday that outdated nvidia drivers caused their viber(?) snap to crash.  Updating from 390 to 440 series fixed it.18:05
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Jamehi18:06
Piraty(repost) hi. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu mentions: "Allow upgrades to LTS releases (if not already set). " the reference to what it refers to is missing. how to ensure that from cli? where to configure it? what does it mean?18:07
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oerheksOne sets that LTS update in system > software sources18:10
oerhekswhy on cli? use the menu18:10
lsd_test18:18
douglhow can I make 20.04 wait for wifi before it tries to mount network shares?18:31
JameHow do you mount network shares ?18:33
douglfstab18:36
douglsame fstab entries on 18.04 19.04 19.10 and 20.0418:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> dougl try this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/349264/fstab-mount-wait-for-network18:39
douglIrcsomeBot, thanks for the suggestion checking it out now18:48
douglfstab options dont have to be in any order do they?18:52
beniHi everyone, when I googel the system requirements for Kubuntu 20.04, I see many answers. Is it recommended to install iet with 3,9 gb RAM?19:00
oerheksthat must be 4 gb; yes, i would say minimum for 64 bit19:02
beniOkay, thank I give it a try19:03
oerhekssome of that mem is snooped off by your onboard videocard, i guess19:03
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IcekinghhHallo19:05
beniI used xubuntu for many years but last 20.04 release is not make me happy for many reasons... gone give Kubuntu a try in a few minutes :)19:07
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valoriebeni, best of luck!19:21
xnox-MLet's see how well this works19:24
xnox-Mconeected with fractal via the kde matrix server19:24
xnox-Mbut i think that uses the matrix.org freenode bridge19:24
douglmy wifi connection does not allow fstab entries to mount - this is a bug what should I do?19:28
IrcsomeBotPIdYw3M3YhGG was added by: PIdYw3M3YhGG19:28
xnox-Mdougl mark them as optional?19:28
douglI want them mounted19:28
xnox-Mwhy does wifi prevent them from getting mounted?19:29
xnox-Mis it because they need networking, and wifi is not up yet?19:30
xnox-Mone can in NM mark wifi connection to be available system wide.19:30
douglI have tried dozens of things and none of them produced mounted samba shares on boot because wifi was not connected yet - assuming xnox-M19:30
xnox-Mbecause most likely the wifi password is in kwallet, which is not unlocked, until after one logs in....19:31
xnox-Min NM settings, on gnome-shell, there is a tickbox "make available to other users" => this will cause the wifi password be stored system wide in /etc and then available on boot, even if nobody has logged in19:32
douglxnox-M, what is gnome shell and how do I get to it on kubuntu 20.04?19:33
valorieit's available in plasma as well19:33
valoriejust like that19:33
valorietickbox "make available to all users"19:34
valorieyou don't want gnome shell in plasma -- you have plasmashell19:34
xnox-Mdougl yes sorry, ignore the gnome-shell comments. I just don't know where the checkbox is. I only know that it does exist somewhere.19:35
IrcsomeBotE was added by: E19:35
douglthat is great xnox-M thanks to you and valorie19:36
valorieyw19:37
douglI type plasmashell at user prompt and nothing happens - no console output and no plasmashell window19:38
valoriepretty sure that the NM devels, plasma and gnome devels all agreed on some common stuff19:38
valoriedougl: it's already running if you are in Kubuntu19:38
valorieyou can do plasmashell - replace19:39
xnox-Mplease open networking settings19:39
xnox-Mfind the wifi network in question19:39
valorieif you want some new settings to take hold19:39
xnox-Mchange settings of the wifi network19:39
xnox-Mand there should be tickbox there19:39
douglok but where is the tick box19:39
douglsorr checking19:39
valoriegeneral settings tab19:41
valorieaccessible from systemsettings as well19:41
douglok 'All users may connect to this network' has a tick in the box now19:41
valorieI misspoke: All users may connect to this network19:42
valorieis the actual wording19:42
valorieand you can do plasmashell -replace in krunner instead of the term if you want19:43
valoriealt+space plasmashell -replace or plasmashell &19:43
douglok thanks kids gonna reboot now and check19:45
lsd_can you enable user feedback in kubuntu ?19:49
lsd_distro maintainters?19:49
douglvalorie, xnox-M still no mounts19:50
valorielsd_: file bug reports, yes19:50
valorieit's very easy in k/ubuntu: ubuntu-bug packagename in the commandline19:51
valoriealmost painless19:51
douglLOL19:51
douglCommand 'kubuntu-bug' not found, did you mean:19:53
dougloops19:53
douglI get it now sorry19:53
douglmis read19:53
valorieright, Kubuntu doesn't need a separate one -- it's confusing enough to have to decide where to file BRs -- KDE or Ubuntu19:55
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valorieand sometimes both19:55
lsd_what about that https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/01/kde-plasma-user-feedback-tool valorie19:55
valorieah, I'm unsure whether or not that was ever released19:56
valoriequite a bit of talk about where to store the info, how to ensure it was clean of all user data, etc.19:57
RikMillswe don't have it. it is a new source not in debian yet19:57
RikMillsplus its not overly useful until more KDE things start to use it19:57
valoriesince all of KDE is moving code-hosting to gitlab atm I think it won't be settled until that is done19:58
valorieI hope more kde projects will start using it in the future if they get the telemetry right19:58
valorieuntil the move is finished, I meant19:59
Guest70718What's the first thing to check when booted up (after choosing > try kubuntu) and then GUI comes up, then computer completely freezes (even numlock stuck), when starting in safe graphics AOK (Nvidia 650ti boost) ? Thanks!19:59
valoriewow, first I've heard of that happening19:59
valorieGuest70718: which ISO were you testing?20:00
Guest70718@valorie Easiest way to find out?20:01
valoriewhat did you download and burn onto the USB?20:01
Guest7071820.04 from yesterday.. Btw, all *nix releases does this at my pc, maybe takes a couple of minutes, but all of them goes freeze mode20:03
valorieaha20:05
valorieso it sounds like an nvidia gotcha20:06
valorie!nvidia20:06
ubottuFor nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa20:06
valorieGuest70718: what are you using on your machine right now?20:06
valorieWindows?20:06
Guest70718yes20:07
valoriewell, I guess you could set up a dual-boot after reading the above links20:07
Guest70718Will check out, thank you very much!20:07
valorieunfortunately you can't get newer drivers etc. in the live session if it freezes20:08
valorieyou can test in a VM from windows I think, but I'm not sure that would be a fair test20:09
Guest70718ofcourse, maybe build it onto the usb, but my knowledge is WAY too low to do that!20:09
valorieinstalling TO the usb is not hard, but it won't help much because of the freezing20:09
douglvalorie, xnox-M - thank you guys so much... it is working now .with the tick to enable all users then on the wifi security tab the was a dropdown box to select 'store password for all users'20:10
douglthanks again20:10
valorieI guess it could be done with a minimal Ubuntu install all in the commandline, etc.20:10
valoriebut that's a lot of work when you don't know whether or not it will work20:10
valoriedougl: \o/20:10
Guest70718Know what, I'm going to install Kubuntu, start in safe mode, do the steps from your link, hopefully will do the trick; no game no life :)20:11
valoriebe sure to back up your data first!20:11
* dougl builds shrine for valorie xnox-M 20:11
Guest70718nothing important, but thanks for the warning!20:11
valorierofl20:11
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douglhello?21:27
user|75408kubuntu 20.04 has any built in document indexer? (search for product number in emails, saved documents like excel, word, pdf files)?21:32
valoriebaloo is built in, user|7540821:35
valorieit's not going to search your Windows share though21:36
valorieor webmail21:36
user|75408we use webdav21:38
user|75408so I understand baloo can only index a local mirror copy of our webdav content for the files, and e-mails only when using local default e-mail client and not office 365 in web right?21:40
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> My dekstop just freeze without a valid motivation. It happened weeks ago and now it happened two times in the same hour. I have kubuntu 20.0423:17
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I am not able to reset with keyboard or with the reset button of my pc23:17
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Not able to use mouse or keyboard23:18
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I have kubuntu installed on two other pc and I never had this problem with version 19.1023:19
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> First time on hour ago I was just browsing the web and this time I was installing a new cursor23:21
valorie@franzpow that's awful23:27
valoriedo you by chance have nvidia?23:27
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Nope.. i am using an Amd radeon23:27
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I am suspecting that the USB hub could be the problem23:28
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I just disconnected it23:28
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I had always problem with usb hubs23:29
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> and this is an evil one23:29
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> But I am not sure. How can I see some logs?23:31
valorieperhaps someone with more tech knowledge than me will speak up23:33
valorieI know that there are all sorts of logs, but ?23:33
valorieperhaps ask in #KDE or #ubuntu23:33
valoriebigger channels23:33
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I hope so. The problem occurs randomly and I have no clue about what it could have caused this issue23:34
valorieI use a laptop so no USB hubs23:34
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I don't even need an USB hub, I will try without it23:34
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> valorie: I know that version 20.04 comes with nvidia drivers preinstalled. Can you say me which version? I will change gpu again in this pc so I will switch back to my nvidia 710 and I would like to know If I have to install the 440 drivers or stick with nouveau23:38
valorieyou can check in the cli with ubuntu-drivers23:39
valorieor in systemsettings I think23:39
valorie!nvidia23:40
ubottuFor nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa23:40
valorieI have the system76 ppa enabled, since this is a sys76 laptop23:40
valorieso mine might be different than stock 20.0423:40
valoriesec23:40
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> mmm ubuntu-drivers list give me no output23:42
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> but if it comes with nvidia drivers 440 it's just fine. Because I know that the card works with those drivers that I have installed on my other machine23:46

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