[00:00] <Roey> hi
[00:01] <Roey> zoom crashes for me on Kubuntu 20.04; how can I diagnose the exact problem?
[00:05] <valorie> same here Roey although I've not tried it yet in 20.04
[00:05] <valorie> I gave up and installed a plugin for it in chrome
[00:05] <Roey> ok
[00:05] <Roey> valorie: it worked on 19.10 for me
[00:05] <valorie> ick software anyway....
[00:05] <valorie> oh, didn't for me
[00:05] <Roey> yeah agreed.
[00:05] <valorie> but now, dinner
[00:06] <Roey> Wonderful!
[00:06] <Roey> Wonderufl for me!
[00:06] <Unit193> Run it from the terminal, see if there's any output?
[00:06] <Roey> I have a Zoom date tomorrow!
[00:06] <Roey> fuck it, ARGH
[00:06] <Roey> I swear.. linux fucking sucks sometimes.
[00:06] <Roey> Unit193: yes I did
[00:07] <Roey> uni https://pastebin.com/0WqwEA4t
[00:07] <Roey> Unit193: ^
[00:09] <Unit193> Relatedly, it seems: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1590737
[00:09] <Roey> Unit193: aye, ok
[00:10] <Unit193> nvidia graphics?
[00:10] <Roey> YEP
[00:10] <Roey> ya know what
[00:10] <Roey> I'm on the stock 390 drivers.
[00:10] <Roey> I can install the 440 drivers that I have, reboot nad all.
[00:10] <Roey> Unit193: thank you for breaking this down for me, I'll bbiab
[00:11] <Roey> Unit193: also, f nvidia
[00:11] <Roey> now I need to get out of X just to install the commercial drivers even.
[00:12] <Unit193> Hah.
[00:13] <Roey> ARGGGGH and now I do Reboot but it doesn't do it.
[00:13] <Roey> ksmserver crashe sor something
 Currently running 20.04 (Ubuntu with kde desktop) that I upgraded from 19.10. I want to get the zfs support..  I heard kubuntu doesn't do zfs during install.. is that right?
[00:40] <Roey> Unit193: hi!!!!1
[00:41] <Roey> I installed the nvidia440 drivers over hte nvidia390 stock drivers that came with Kubunbtu 20.04, and Zoom works now.  Also, Krunner works again (where before on 20.04, it would crash every time i ran it)
 ok.. I confirmed it from the kubuntu releases page.. ubiquity installer wasn't updated to includes the zfs installer
 I'm going to install regular ubuntu, then install kde like i currently have done..
[00:53] <valorie> you don't want to just upgrade?
[00:54] <valorie> imo it is better to install ubuntu-minimum if that's the plan
[00:54] <valorie> otherwise you are left with all the gnome suff
[00:54] <valorie> stuff
 true..
 I've already done an upgrade.. so I'm currently on 20.04 ubuntu where I've installed kde..  but I want to do zfs on root..
 so i figured i would just start sorta fresh
 good point about ubuntu minimal tho.
 what is the kde that gets as close as possible to kubuntu?    kubuntu-desktop or something like that?
[00:56] <valorie> check out the server ISOs if you want the lamp stack
[00:56] <valorie> yes
[01:45] <Shesh> is there any ubuntu blog which we can refer to ? Like OMG Ubuntu
 Hi guys, I hope you guys are safe at home during this pandemic.
 My question: if we don't create a swap partition while installing kubunty will it automatically create swap file?
[02:03] <Shesh> hello @guiverc
[02:04] <Shesh> You are from Lubuntu, right ? Nice to see you here
[02:05] <guiverc> G'day Shesh; yeah, I lurk and i autojoin this room when I'm using this (my main box; since jphilipz flavors beta  reach out I think); & thanks
[02:11] <Shesh> :)
[02:11] <Shesh> have a great time
[02:18] <valorie> not a guy, but yes, safe at home
[02:18] <valorie> ubuntu uses swap files and they are auto-created, yes
[02:18] <valorie> guiverc: welcome
[02:19] <valorie> Shesh: you might check out ubuntu planet
[02:19] <valorie> and if you have a blog you should add yours there
[02:23] <guiverc> thanks valorie
[02:23] <valorie> :-)
[02:23] <valorie> planet is some old software but it still works!
[02:35] <Shesh> Thanks @valorie
[02:36] <valorie> :-)
[02:36] <Shesh> :)
[02:36] <valorie> kde has one too, as I think gnome does
[02:37] <Shesh> I see. May I know the one that KDE owns ?
[02:39] <Shesh> https://planet.kde.org/
[02:49] <valorie> these days I mostly read twitter instead of the planet
[02:49] <valorie> tsk tsk
[03:27] <viewer|6> Hi
[04:01] <hugo_> i have one error: Err:13 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu disco-security Release any suggerest?
[04:42] <valorie> hugo, are you running disco?
[05:01] <Jame> Can someone help me with a script to kill " KScreen2 " after the desktop loads. I need to do something about these popups
[05:02] <diogenes_> Jame, killall name
[05:04] <Jame> @diogenes , thanks. Where and how to put it ?
[05:05] <Jame> currently I use settings > background services. I have to do it manually each time
[05:06] <Jame> each time I restart the PC
[05:11] <valorie> wouldn't it be more convenient to just stop the popups directly?
[05:11]  * valorie gets zero popups
[05:12] <Jame> hi valorie
[05:12] <Jame> the one is blue is a command ?
[05:12] <valorie> hi Jame
[05:12] <Jame> I like to have other popups
[05:12] <Jame> But the extend screen popup comes once in 30 seconds
[05:12] <valorie> krunner solves a lot of problems for me
[05:12] <Jame> tell me how to do it please
[05:13] <valorie> alt+space and type kscreen
[05:13] <valorie> should take you right to where you configure it in system settings
[05:13] <Jame> if I disable KScreen 2 from startup, will screen not load at all ?
[05:13] <valorie> notifications is what you want to end, correct?
[05:14] <valorie> you are configuring it, not killing it
[05:14] <Jame> the popup
[05:14] <Jame> comes in the middle of the screen
[05:14] <Jame> https://i.stack.imgur.com/5qmEk.jpg
[05:14] <Jame> please see
[05:14] <valorie> aha!
[05:15] <valorie> that comes up for me when I hit f7
[05:15] <Jame> it comes for me every 30 seconds
[05:15] <valorie> it is for controlling multiple monitors, changing to presentation mode, etc.
[05:15] <Jame> I cannot type at all
[05:15] <valorie> woah
[05:15] <valorie> that's very messed up
[05:15] <Jame> looks like it is a bug. I have to turn it off in background services
[05:16] <Jame> in system monitor
[05:16] <valorie> sounds like you might have a mis-mapped key or something
[05:16] <Jame> it says kscreen_backend_launcher
[05:16] <Jame> I see
[05:16] <Jame> Is there any fix possible ?
[05:16] <valorie> but yes, you could disable that
[05:16] <valorie> just the launcher
[05:17] <Jame> I am doing it every time I restart
[05:17] <valorie> play around in systemsettings
[05:17] <valorie> see what you can find
[05:17] <valorie> krunner usually gets you right where you need to be
[05:18] <valorie> possibly asking in #kde would get you better answers
[05:18] <valorie> I've never had a problem with it
[05:18] <Jame> I see, thanks. Let me see
[05:21] <Jame> you people nice
[05:22] <valorie> thanks
[05:22] <Jame> :)
[05:22] <valorie> btw, to get the line blue, just start it with /me
[05:22]  * valorie is very glad to meet ya
[05:22] <Jame> +1
[05:23]  * Jame same here :)
[05:23] <valorie> :-)
[05:23] <Jame> I thought people will be rude in IRC
[05:23] <Jame> haven't used it much
[05:24] <valorie> some are, I suppose
[05:24] <valorie> I don't stay in the rude places
[05:24] <Jame> I am sure about it :)
[05:25] <valorie> that's why I stayed around kubuntu and KDE
[05:25] <Jame> that is true. Met only nice people so far
[05:26] <Jame> what if we disable KScreen 2
[05:26] <Jame> will the monitor stop altogether ?
[05:26] <Jame> too much obsessed with it :(
[05:27] <valorie> I don't think it's a problem with kscreen
[05:27] <Jame> I am very much impressed with Kubuntu. Never thought it will be this great
[05:27] <Jame> I see
[05:27] <valorie> it is just the menu continuing to pop up
[05:28] <valorie> you are the first person I've ever heard ask about something like this
[05:28] <Jame> true. Shouldn't it happen only when the system detect a monitor
[05:28] <Jame> oh
[05:28] <valorie> which makes me suspect hardware
[05:28] <valorie> yes
[05:28] <Jame> I had this issue with Live USB as well
[05:28] <Jame> I see
[05:28] <valorie> or if you press the key
[05:29] <valorie> does it pop up if you click f7?
[05:30] <valorie> errr, alt+f7
[05:31] <Jame> let me try
[05:31] <Jame> no, it doesn't
[05:32] <valorie> interestig
[05:32] <valorie> err, interesting
[05:33] <Jame> neither f7 , nor alt f7 change anything
[05:34] <valorie> I wonder if you set a shortcut to it
[05:34] <valorie> if you could just hit that and get rid of it
[05:35] <valorie> shortcut in krunner
[05:35] <Jame> I was hoping to find a script, which I place on desktop. Click and popup is gone
[05:35] <Jame> dreams ..
[05:35] <valorie> well, I've never heard of this before, so I don't know who would make such a script
[05:35] <valorie> instead of fixing the problem....
[05:36] <Jame> it's ok
[05:36] <Jame> we got this far :)
[05:36] <valorie> no, it sounds horrible
[05:36] <Jame> ok
[05:36] <Jame> what can we do
[05:37] <valorie> well, you asked in #kde, but it is the weekend
[05:37] <Jame> got it :(
[05:37] <valorie> #kde is most active in euro-working hours
[05:38] <Jame> Oh
[05:38] <valorie> most devel are european
[05:38] <Jame> Got it :)
[05:39] <Jame> I am able to work now. Stopping KScreen 2 through system settings. Now need find the real fix.
[05:39] <Jame> As you said, this is a workaround
 After install kubuntu 20.04,routet wifi os working but my android hotspot is connected but no net connection..Where is the problem? I change dns 8.8.8.8 but not fixed...fix mrthod pls
 After install kubuntu 20.04,router wifi os working but my android hotspot is connected but no net connection..Where is the problem? I change dns 8.8.8.8 but not fixed...fix method pls
 After install kubuntu 20.04,routet wifi is working but my android hotspot is connected but no net connection..Where is the problem? I change dns 8.8.8.8 but not fixed...fix mrthod pls
[05:40] <valorie> @Parvez, doesn't not help to repeat
[05:40] <valorie> I can't help, sorry
 Why??
 Anyone?
[05:41] <valorie> I don't know anything about hotspots
[05:41] <valorie> not many people at their computers now
 Oh
 Anyone use chrome on kubuntu?
[05:41] <valorie> I do
 How you install?
[05:41] <valorie> why?
[05:42] <valorie> !chrome
[05:42] <guiverc> Do you get a ip address `ip addr`, is it routed to your access point (`ip route`) can you ping your router?
[05:42] <guiverc> IrcsomeBot, ^
[05:42] <valorie> oh, I never do stuff like that, sorry
[05:42] <valorie> oops
[05:42] <valorie> guiverc: if you want to talk to @Parvez you have to type the nick like that
[05:42] <valorie> unfortunately
[05:43] <guiverc> my mistake for leaving off the ... and I completely missed the bot ref :(
 I didnt understand
[05:43] <guiverc> @Parvez, Do you get a ip address `ip addr`, is it routed to your access point (`ip route`) can you ping your router?
[05:43] <valorie> @Parvez, look at https://itsfoss.com/install-chrome-ubuntu/
[05:44] <valorie> Ubuntu cannot provide it directly
 Tnx
 I didnt know about ping
[05:44] <Jame> Parvez: you can go to Google Chrome website and follow their instructions
[05:44] <viewer|18> Hi
 Can you tell me details
[05:44] <Jame> I think they have a deb file
[05:45] <viewer|18> Can you guys help me to install kubuntu alongside windows
 Yeah
[05:45] <viewer|18> How many partitions do I need?
 I install via dpkg in terminal but its not installed
[05:46] <Jame> Parvez : how hard is it to download a deb file and double click it
[05:46] <Jame> tada, you are through
[05:46] <Jame> Parvez: I will leave the decision to you. :)
 Ok I will try
[05:47] <Jame> sure, it works.
 I love terminal so I forget double click😅
[05:50] <guiverc> @Parvez, I use `ip addr` to ensure my network devices have an ip address (`ip link` will list devices, i'm assuming its recognized), `ip route` to view routing addresses.  if both look okay, I ping my router (`ping 192.168.14.16` for me; detail viewable via `ip route` for my box which gets address from dhcp).  then I ping external (ping 8.8.8.8 or dns.google.com; that'll confirm network addresses work)..
 Tnxxx..
 I Will try later bro
[06:27] <guiverc> @Parvez, fyi: if you can ping google via `ping 8.8.8.8` then network is all good, however if `ping dns.google.com` fails; then you have DNS issue which is what the adding of 8.8.8.8 as nameserver is used to fix..
 Hey
[06:51] <crash_> does anyone else have the same bug as me? when i close the lid on my laptop and the come back to the computer a while later to wake it up, tap to click is no longer working. so i need to reboot to get it to work again.
[06:52] <wingedrhino> Is this a known bug? When I'm logged out due to inactivity, my session gets nuked. Trying to run a bunch of scripts to install software over a slow internet in Kubuntu 20.04.
[06:52] <wingedrhino> It's my first login BTW.
[06:53] <wingedrhino> This happened last night but I assumed it was because I was too sleepy to pay attention. It happened again now.
[06:53] <wingedrhino> When I unlock my screen, I get a spinner (like the one that comes when plasma is setting up for the first time) and then I see a blank session
[06:55] <wingedrhino> I have selected "Start With An Empty Session" as the On Login action in KDE System Settings though. But this should have nothing to do with what I'm currently experiencing.
[07:48] <LLQ> Hi,I have a problem need help. When I close Krita app in Kubuntu 20.04LTS,it always has errors after exiting krita.But it has no errors when using krita.how to solve this bug?
[07:49] <LLQ> I install krita by using this command "apt install krita".
[09:18] <Matanjah> Hello
[09:19] <Matanjah> I got problem with kubuntu on my laptop. Can I ask here for help?
[09:21] <nopanic> yes
[09:26] <bh__> is any one?
[09:27] <bh_> is any one?
[09:28] <bh_> is any body?
[09:37] <amundsen> hi
[09:39] <bh_> lol
[09:39] <bh_> where are u from?
[09:39] <amundsen> i've just installed kubuntu 20.04 and can't run thunderbird
[09:39] <amundsen> apt install thunderbird but it doesn't appear in kde menu
[09:40] <bh_> my thunderbird is fine
[09:41] <bh_> run thunderbird in command line, lookup what's happend
[09:42] <amundsen> it says thta thunderbird ins't installed
[09:43] <amundsen> but when i run apt install thunderbird and says ints installed
[09:44] <RikMills> sudo apt install --reinstall thunderbird
[09:45] <bh_> RikMills is right
[09:46] <amundsen> thanks
[09:46] <amundsen> :)
[09:46] <amundsen> it worked
[09:46] <RikMills> sound like a bug in apt knowing the correct status
[09:46] <bh_> o_o
[09:47] <RikMills> which makes sense if reinstall helped
[09:47] <RikMills> I can't reproduce it here though
[09:48] <bh_> 😇
[09:49] <bh_> where are you guys from🤪. I'm happy to cheat with you
[09:49] <bh_> chat, sorry
[09:50] <amundsen> basque country (northern spain)
[09:52] <bh_> I am from China, I am working, but I am goofing-off
[09:53] <bh_> 🤫
[09:55] <amundsen> bh_: working on sunday...
[09:55] <amundsen> humm
[09:56] <amundsen> what a pity
[09:56] <bh_> This chatroom is convenient, classic and funny. but people is too few
[09:57] <bh_> 😭
[10:08] <garrim> Hi all. I'm feeling rathar dumb here. I'm running Kubuntu 19.10 and when I run do-release-upgrade I get a 'No upgrades avaliable'  So what am I doing wrong?
[10:09] <bh_> me too
[10:09] <bh_> you need to run this: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[10:10] <garrim> yeah, sorry - I described it incorrectly - I did use sudo
[10:10] <garrim> OH!  the -d
[10:10] <bh_> yep! -d
 It worked for me. I upgraded successfully with -d
[10:11] <garrim> that might do the trick...  what dies the -d do?  (haha  de-do-de-do...sorry, very tired now)
[10:12] <bh_> with -d, It'll upgrade to the development release
[10:13] <bh_> the kubuntu 20.20LTS upgrade package look like didn't released
[10:14] <bh_> so , we use development release
[10:14] <bh_> 🧐
[10:14] <RikMills> the ubuntu release team deliberately do not enable upgrades right away
[10:15] <RikMills> they will probably enable in the coming week once they are happy there are no nasty upgrade bugs that got missed
[10:16] <garrim> I see. Well thanks for the help folks!
[10:25] <mparillo> !ask
[10:31] <Metamorphosis> Hello, has been a change of sound drivers in 20.04? My microphone (both external and internal laptop mic) worked just fine in Kubuntu 18.04.4. now it sounds like I'm speaking from a cave or something. How can I fix it?
 Hi, maybe that 512 mb partition is a system partition
[10:47] <Metamorphosis> When I'm installing a .deb file (in this case Viber messenger), package installer just says "Error: Cannot satisfy dependencies." How can I find which dependencies are missing?
 @Supun Wijesinghe, I think that is common,later I am gonna check if I have it on my kubuntu installation
[11:07] <Deknos> Metamorphosis, try 'apt-get -f install' :D
[11:08] <Deknos> or you look into the dependencies with dpkg-deb -I file or dpkg-deb -W file.
[11:08] <Deknos> that should tell you the dependencies
[11:09] <Deknos> which you should install via apt
[11:13] <Metamorphosis> Deknos I'm a little noob, I downloaded the deb file from the Viber website. but it's not in repos
[11:13] <Deknos> yeah
[11:13] <Deknos> i figured.
[11:14] <Deknos> so.. command line? how unexperienced are you?
[11:18] <Metamorphosis> Deknos how can I install a deb file using command line? I have experience installing a tarball before.
[11:41] <Deknos> go into the directory where the deb file is
[11:41] <Deknos> before i go further: i give no garantee that your actions wont brick the system. i dont know your application.
[11:42] <Deknos> but assumed that the debfile is good
[11:42] <Deknos> you can do the following:
[11:42] <Deknos> dpkg -i ./debfile.deb
[11:42] <Deknos> then
[11:42] <Deknos> apt-get -f install
[11:42] <Deknos> and sometimes THEN
[11:42] <Deknos> dpkg -i ./debfile.deb
[11:42] <Deknos> again
[11:42] <Deknos> if the dpkg -i command does not work
[11:43] <Deknos> you can doo dpkg-deb -I ./debfile.deb or dpkg-deb -W ./debfile.deb
[11:43] <Deknos> that will show you the dependencies perhaps which you can install via apt install dependencyname
[11:43] <Deknos> is there no snap or appimage or flatpak of your application?
[11:51] <Metamorphosis> Deknos there is an unofficial snap version but I want to use the updated one.
[11:51] <Metamorphosis> www.viber.com
[11:52] <Metamorphosis> Viber is an Skype alternative which is very popular in some countries.
[11:52] <Metamorphosis> It's available natively on Linux
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:02] <Metamorphosis> Hello BluesKaj
[12:19] <BluesKaj> ni Metamorphosis
 @Supun Wijesinghe, I have not that partition visible on dolphin but maybe it appears because of something selected during installation process?
[12:22] <Deknos> Metamorphosis, link?
[12:23] <Metamorphosis> www.viber.com
[12:24] <Metamorphosis> It was in Ubuntu repos but it's gone since 2018
[12:24] <Metamorphosis> It was in Ubuntu repos but it's gone since 2018
[12:30] <BluesKaj> @Dagmar Wieland, could be a driver upgrade or some such
[12:34] <BluesKaj> @Dagmar Wieland, configure your system tray
[12:36] <BluesKaj> updates are part of your notifications
 What happens if you check  the Show all entries box at the top ("Immer all Eintrage anzeigen")?
 Does the current user have sudo privileges? Also, ensure the following plasma packages are installed https://pastebin.com/XshVuMzV
[12:51] <BluesKaj> @Dagmar Wieland, just run sudo apt update;sudo apt upgrade in the konsole once/day and you should be fine :-)
 Please share as I have no idea how that can happen.
 No problem.  The forum is for all of us to help each other and learn new stuff.  I learned something today. :)
[13:15] <mind_sage> hey, is the new kubuntu out?
[13:15] <Piraty> hi. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu mentions: "Allow upgrades to LTS releases (if not already set). " any reference to what it refers to is missing. how to ensure that from cli? where to configure it?
[13:16] <mind_sage> how is it different from 18.04? what are the new features? thanks!
[13:16] <Piraty> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[13:19] <Jame> #kde
[13:25] <kane_> Hey
[13:25] <mind_sage> hi
[13:25] <Jame> hello
[13:26] <kane_> KDE is supercool!!
[13:26] <Jame> it certainly is
[13:26] <Jame> :)
[13:26] <Piraty> i like i3
 They're both cool. Plasma and i3
 I am using both but one is a window manager and another is a desktop environment
 Very different concepts
 I have a doubt will kubuntu automatically create a swap file if I don't create a swap partition?
 Thanks stay safe.
[14:32] <amundsen> hi
[14:32] <amundsen> does anybody know why amarok has disapeared from kubuntu repos?
[14:33] <amundsen> nothing happens when i execute apt install amarok
[14:34] <RikMills> because it's development is dead, and it uses qt4 which is now unsupported
[14:36] <amundsen> :(
[14:36] <amundsen> it was a great mp3 player
[14:41] <otomo> I like the new one, Elisa even more
[14:41] <ecov> I have laptop with an SSD and ubuntu installed, I'm going to be adding an HDD to the ultrabay slot as extra storage - how should I go about mounting on boot
[14:41] <ecov> where should I make my mount point?  /mount?  /media?
[14:41] <ecov> also, I then add a line to fstab to mount on boot
[14:41] <ecov> ?
 @ecov, You can create your mount point on any empty directory. i.e. /mnt/media would be fine. The only caveat is not to block a directory a dynamically mounted directory such as /media/<user>.
[14:58] <ecov> I see
[14:58] <ecov> Thanks DarinMiller
[15:41] <doug_> Hi all, can anyone pass me the default settings for Kmail Local Files (under accounts)? I seem to have screwed something up, and kmail spawns a directory called "file:" under ~/.
[15:47] <drblah> Does anyone know if there is a way to skip the integrity check when booting the 20.04 installer from USB flash? I am trying to install it on a weak computer and it is taking forever to do the check. I all ready tried CTRL+c but it does not seem to do anything.
 The ctrl-c seems to be timing "thing" where it works depending on where in the check the ctl-c is pressed.   I have seen it work immediately and also seen it not work at all.
[16:30] <Guest82959> Hi all. I have the BETA of Kubuntu 20.04 installed on a machine. If I do a full upgrade via apt, will that take me to the official release, or do I need to nuke & pave?
[16:36] <dougl> can someone help me figure out how to mount my samba shares on my notebook after it connects to wifi... simple fstab entries worked on 18.04.19.04 19.10 but not 20.04 can anyone explain?
[16:37] <dougl> I have been googling hard core for 2 days an nothing I try works
[16:37] <dougl> autofs gigolo fstab
[16:53] <ecov> what does your fstab look like
[16:53] <ecov> dougl:
[16:53] <dougl> ecov - sec google was distracting me
[16:53] <ecov> use pastebin perhaps
[16:57] <dougl> ecov, https://pastebin.com/dfsdeT8t contains one of the 4 (q thru u shares)
[16:58] <dougl> hey BluesKaj - how are you
[16:59] <BluesKaj> hi dougl, fine here, how about you?
[16:59] <dougl> ecov, entries for my 5 shares
[16:59] <dougl> BluesKaj, very well thanks
[17:00] <BluesKaj> good too hear dougl...i wondered where you disappeared to :-)
[17:00] <BluesKaj> to hear
[17:01] <dougl> had some health issues - but I am feeling much better now
[17:01] <BluesKaj> good :-)
[17:02] <dougl> how is 20.04 treating you?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> it's seems ok , except suddenly ssh refuses to connect to the other computers and vice versa
[17:04] <BluesKaj> been exploring it could be, but no luck so far
[17:04] <BluesKaj> what
[17:06] <dougl> hmmm, stock install? right out of the box?
[17:06]  * dougl ssh into samba share raspberry pi
[17:07] <dougl> BluesKaj, does it give you an error?
[17:08] <dougl> ecov, it was just one line - lol, what do you think?
[17:15] <dougl> trying to mount 4 samba shares hosted on raspberry pi but I need to do it after my wifi starts on my notebook
[17:16] <dougl> it worked on kubuntu 18.04 19.04 and 19.10 with just a simple entry for each share - //192.168.0.32/U_Drive /mnt/u_drive cifs vers=2.0,user=username,password=userpassword,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0 20.04 does not work
 dougl do the mounts work after wifi connects if you run "sudo mount -a"
 Some of the old samba functionality has been replaced, but I have not attempted to mount file systems in 20.04.
[17:21] <dougl> IrcsomeBot, thank you - yes they work flawlessly
 OK, so your fstab is not the issue, just the timing of the mounts.  I have no idea how to control ordering of events such as prioritize network connect prior to fstab mount...
[17:25] <dougl> same - thinking of a service to mount the shares but don't know if the service will exec before wifi connect
[17:28] <dougl> I can't even figure out what to google for...
[17:35] <Dragnslcr> You could create a systemd service to do the mount. I know you can set prerequisites, so you should be able to set it to run after a network connection is available.
[17:36] <Dragnslcr> I'm not sure if that's the easiest way to do it, but it's an option
[17:37] <dougl> I am sure it is not the easiest way Dragnslcr but it looks like it is my only option I can find
[17:46] <Nomad_> anyone else having issues with snap based apps blowing up on 20.04 with an "fopen" permission error in /sys?   snapd v 2.44.3+20.04 , all versions of chromium and discord do it
 regarding snaps, someone discovered yesterday that outdated nvidia drivers caused their viber(?) snap to crash.  Updating from 390 to 440 series fixed it.
[18:06] <Jame> hi
[18:07] <Piraty> (repost) hi. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FocalUpgrades/Kubuntu mentions: "Allow upgrades to LTS releases (if not already set). " the reference to what it refers to is missing. how to ensure that from cli? where to configure it? what does it mean?
[18:10] <oerheks> One sets that LTS update in system > software sources
[18:10] <oerheks> why on cli? use the menu
[18:18] <lsd_> test
[18:31] <dougl> how can I make 20.04 wait for wifi before it tries to mount network shares?
[18:33] <Jame> How do you mount network shares ?
[18:36] <dougl> fstab
[18:37] <dougl> same fstab entries on 18.04 19.04 19.10 and 20.04
 dougl try this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/349264/fstab-mount-wait-for-network
[18:48] <dougl> IrcsomeBot, thanks for the suggestion checking it out now
[18:52] <dougl> fstab options dont have to be in any order do they?
[19:00] <beni> Hi everyone, when I googel the system requirements for Kubuntu 20.04, I see many answers. Is it recommended to install iet with 3,9 gb RAM?
[19:02] <oerheks> that must be 4 gb; yes, i would say minimum for 64 bit
[19:03] <beni> Okay, thank I give it a try
[19:03] <oerheks> some of that mem is snooped off by your onboard videocard, i guess
[19:05] <Icekinghh> Hallo
[19:07] <beni> I used xubuntu for many years but last 20.04 release is not make me happy for many reasons... gone give Kubuntu a try in a few minutes :)
[19:21] <valorie> beni, best of luck!
[19:24] <xnox-M> Let's see how well this works
[19:24] <xnox-M> coneected with fractal via the kde matrix server
[19:24] <xnox-M> but i think that uses the matrix.org freenode bridge
[19:28] <dougl> my wifi connection does not allow fstab entries to mount - this is a bug what should I do?
[19:28] <xnox-M> dougl mark them as optional?
[19:28] <dougl> I want them mounted
[19:29] <xnox-M> why does wifi prevent them from getting mounted?
[19:30] <xnox-M> is it because they need networking, and wifi is not up yet?
[19:30] <xnox-M> one can in NM mark wifi connection to be available system wide.
[19:30] <dougl> I have tried dozens of things and none of them produced mounted samba shares on boot because wifi was not connected yet - assuming xnox-M
[19:31] <xnox-M> because most likely the wifi password is in kwallet, which is not unlocked, until after one logs in....
[19:32] <xnox-M> in NM settings, on gnome-shell, there is a tickbox "make available to other users" => this will cause the wifi password be stored system wide in /etc and then available on boot, even if nobody has logged in
[19:33] <dougl> xnox-M, what is gnome shell and how do I get to it on kubuntu 20.04?
[19:33] <valorie> it's available in plasma as well
[19:33] <valorie> just like that
[19:34] <valorie> tickbox "make available to all users"
[19:34] <valorie> you don't want gnome shell in plasma -- you have plasmashell
[19:35] <xnox-M> dougl yes sorry, ignore the gnome-shell comments. I just don't know where the checkbox is. I only know that it does exist somewhere.
[19:36] <dougl> that is great xnox-M thanks to you and valorie
[19:37] <valorie> yw
[19:38] <dougl> I type plasmashell at user prompt and nothing happens - no console output and no plasmashell window
[19:38] <valorie> pretty sure that the NM devels, plasma and gnome devels all agreed on some common stuff
[19:38] <valorie> dougl: it's already running if you are in Kubuntu
[19:39] <valorie> you can do plasmashell - replace
[19:39] <xnox-M> please open networking settings
[19:39] <xnox-M> find the wifi network in question
[19:39] <valorie> if you want some new settings to take hold
[19:39] <xnox-M> change settings of the wifi network
[19:39] <xnox-M> and there should be tickbox there
[19:39] <dougl> ok but where is the tick box
[19:39] <dougl> sorr checking
[19:41] <valorie> general settings tab
[19:41] <valorie> accessible from systemsettings as well
[19:41] <dougl> ok 'All users may connect to this network' has a tick in the box now
[19:42] <valorie> I misspoke: All users may connect to this network
[19:42] <valorie> is the actual wording
[19:43] <valorie> and you can do plasmashell -replace in krunner instead of the term if you want
[19:43] <valorie> alt+space plasmashell -replace or plasmashell &
[19:45] <dougl> ok thanks kids gonna reboot now and check
[19:49] <lsd_> can you enable user feedback in kubuntu ?
[19:49] <lsd_> distro maintainters?
[19:50] <dougl> valorie, xnox-M still no mounts
[19:50] <valorie> lsd_: file bug reports, yes
[19:51] <valorie> it's very easy in k/ubuntu: ubuntu-bug packagename in the commandline
[19:51] <valorie> almost painless
[19:51] <dougl> LOL
[19:53] <dougl> Command 'kubuntu-bug' not found, did you mean:
[19:53] <dougl> oops
[19:53] <dougl> I get it now sorry
[19:53] <dougl> mis read
[19:55] <valorie> right, Kubuntu doesn't need a separate one -- it's confusing enough to have to decide where to file BRs -- KDE or Ubuntu
[19:55] <valorie> and sometimes both
[19:55] <lsd_> what about that https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/01/kde-plasma-user-feedback-tool valorie
[19:56] <valorie> ah, I'm unsure whether or not that was ever released
[19:57] <valorie> quite a bit of talk about where to store the info, how to ensure it was clean of all user data, etc.
[19:57] <RikMills> we don't have it. it is a new source not in debian yet
[19:57] <RikMills> plus its not overly useful until more KDE things start to use it
[19:58] <valorie> since all of KDE is moving code-hosting to gitlab atm I think it won't be settled until that is done
[19:58] <valorie> I hope more kde projects will start using it in the future if they get the telemetry right
[19:59] <valorie> until the move is finished, I meant
[19:59] <Guest70718> What's the first thing to check when booted up (after choosing > try kubuntu) and then GUI comes up, then computer completely freezes (even numlock stuck), when starting in safe graphics AOK (Nvidia 650ti boost) ? Thanks!
[19:59] <valorie> wow, first I've heard of that happening
[20:00] <valorie> Guest70718: which ISO were you testing?
[20:01] <Guest70718> @valorie Easiest way to find out?
[20:01] <valorie> what did you download and burn onto the USB?
[20:03] <Guest70718> 20.04 from yesterday.. Btw, all *nix releases does this at my pc, maybe takes a couple of minutes, but all of them goes freeze mode
[20:05] <valorie> aha
[20:06] <valorie> so it sounds like an nvidia gotcha
[20:06] <valorie> !nvidia
[20:06] <valorie> Guest70718: what are you using on your machine right now?
[20:06] <valorie> Windows?
[20:07] <Guest70718> yes
[20:07] <valorie> well, I guess you could set up a dual-boot after reading the above links
[20:07] <Guest70718> Will check out, thank you very much!
[20:08] <valorie> unfortunately you can't get newer drivers etc. in the live session if it freezes
[20:09] <valorie> you can test in a VM from windows I think, but I'm not sure that would be a fair test
[20:09] <Guest70718> ofcourse, maybe build it onto the usb, but my knowledge is WAY too low to do that!
[20:09] <valorie> installing TO the usb is not hard, but it won't help much because of the freezing
[20:10] <dougl> valorie, xnox-M - thank you guys so much... it is working now .with the tick to enable all users then on the wifi security tab the was a dropdown box to select 'store password for all users'
[20:10] <dougl> thanks again
[20:10] <valorie> I guess it could be done with a minimal Ubuntu install all in the commandline, etc.
[20:10] <valorie> but that's a lot of work when you don't know whether or not it will work
[20:10] <valorie> dougl: \o/
[20:11] <Guest70718> Know what, I'm going to install Kubuntu, start in safe mode, do the steps from your link, hopefully will do the trick; no game no life :)
[20:11] <valorie> be sure to back up your data first!
[20:11]  * dougl builds shrine for valorie xnox-M 
[20:11] <Guest70718> nothing important, but thanks for the warning!
[20:11] <valorie> rofl
[21:27] <dougl> hello?
[21:32] <user|75408> kubuntu 20.04 has any built in document indexer? (search for product number in emails, saved documents like excel, word, pdf files)?
[21:35] <valorie> baloo is built in, user|75408
[21:36] <valorie> it's not going to search your Windows share though
[21:36] <valorie> or webmail
[21:38] <user|75408> we use webdav
[21:40] <user|75408> so I understand baloo can only index a local mirror copy of our webdav content for the files, and e-mails only when using local default e-mail client and not office 365 in web right?
 My dekstop just freeze without a valid motivation. It happened weeks ago and now it happened two times in the same hour. I have kubuntu 20.04
 I am not able to reset with keyboard or with the reset button of my pc
 Not able to use mouse or keyboard
 I have kubuntu installed on two other pc and I never had this problem with version 19.10
 First time on hour ago I was just browsing the web and this time I was installing a new cursor
[23:27] <valorie> @franzpow that's awful
[23:27] <valorie> do you by chance have nvidia?
 Nope.. i am using an Amd radeon
 I am suspecting that the USB hub could be the problem
 I just disconnected it
 I had always problem with usb hubs
 and this is an evil one
 But I am not sure. How can I see some logs?
[23:33] <valorie> perhaps someone with more tech knowledge than me will speak up
[23:33] <valorie> I know that there are all sorts of logs, but ?
[23:33] <valorie> perhaps ask in #KDE or #ubuntu
[23:33] <valorie> bigger channels
 I hope so. The problem occurs randomly and I have no clue about what it could have caused this issue
[23:34] <valorie> I use a laptop so no USB hubs
 I don't even need an USB hub, I will try without it
 valorie: I know that version 20.04 comes with nvidia drivers preinstalled. Can you say me which version? I will change gpu again in this pc so I will switch back to my nvidia 710 and I would like to know If I have to install the 440 drivers or stick with nouveau
[23:39] <valorie> you can check in the cli with ubuntu-drivers
[23:39] <valorie> or in systemsettings I think
[23:40] <valorie> !nvidia
[23:40] <valorie> I have the system76 ppa enabled, since this is a sys76 laptop
[23:40] <valorie> so mine might be different than stock 20.04
[23:40] <valorie> sec
 mmm ubuntu-drivers list give me no output
 but if it comes with nvidia drivers 440 it's just fine. Because I know that the card works with those drivers that I have installed on my other machine