[05:16] <alkisg> Hi, the socat 1.7.3.3-2  in focal has a regression that breaks another package called "epoptes". I asked debian to package the new 1.7.3.4 bug fixing version in sid, and they just did: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=958452
[05:17] <alkisg> How can I ask for focal to get that new version? It's hard to pinpoint the exact part that causes the regression, but it's a bug fixing "microupdate", can I just ask for an SRU even if ubuntu+1 hasn't started yet?
[05:18]  * alkisg tries to be more clear: asking for focal to get a new socat version, instead of pinpointing a patch
[05:19] <alkisg> Given that it's not in any .iso, could someone just syncpackage it, even now after release?
[05:26]  * alkisg reported that as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/socat/+bug/1875129
[05:49] <RAOF> alkisg: SRUs are perfectly fine pre-Gorgeous opening.
[05:50] <RAOF> You can't quite just syncpackage (you need the actual SRU tracking bug in the changelog, among other things), but there's no reason not to start the SRU process right now.
[05:52] <RAOF> (There are already a bunch of Focal SRUs, from the time between release freeze and release)
[05:53] <alkisg> RAOF: but doesn't SRU mean that "it's already fixed in the current development release"? Gorgeous doesn't have the new socat yet
[05:53] <alkisg> It's only there in sid
[05:53] <alkisg> Should I wait for it to sync first, then start the SRU?
[05:53] <RAOF> Nah, you can start the SRU.
[05:53] <alkisg> OK, ty
[05:54] <RAOF> At this time of the release cycle we can copy the package out of focal-proposed into gorgeous when we release the SRU.
[05:54] <alkisg> RAOF: to be clear, this is an SRU for a "microrelease", not for a "patch backport", as I haven't pinpointed the exact lines, is that OK?
[05:54] <RAOF> If it hasn't autosynced by then.
[05:55] <RAOF> alkisg: If it's *really* a bug-fix-only release, SRUs are fine.
[05:55] <alkisg> I think so. Ty, inserting the [SRU] stanzas in the bug report...
[05:56] <RAOF> You don't necessarily need to pick just the patches that fix the bugs you've particularly hit.
[06:10] <alkisg> Done, I think :)
[15:11] <cjwatson> tomreyn: done
[17:34] <tomreyn> thanks for the notice.
[21:03] <jbicha> mapreri: btw, Debian did package cairo 1.15 once important enough stuff started depending on it
[21:04] <jbicha> I don't trust my memory, but I think that important stuff was color emoji ️‼️
[22:10] <Unit193> Ah, so entirely useless stuff.  I see.
[22:23] <valorie> Unit193: the 20th century Man
[22:25] <Unit193> Yes, teenagers seem unable to articulate well enough to express themselves in understanable ways. :P
[22:52] <valorie> Unit193: I use the occasional :-) or <3
[22:53] <valorie> and there is a cup of coffee emoji I like, but for that one does not need color
[23:31] <Unit193> valorie: Indeed, though as my mother used to say "A little bit goes a long way."  Also I believe the word for those is 'emoticon'.
[23:31] <valorie> right
[23:32] <valorie> I have my fonts rather small in irc so when people use emoji, they are usually too small for me to "get" them anyway