[00:00] <carrera> Hi everyone
[00:01] <Roey> hi.
[00:01] <Roey> zoom crashes for me on Kubuntu 20.04; how can I diagnose the exact problem?
[00:03] <carrera> I'm trying install ubuntu 20.04 on an Asus G751 with 2 SSD drives. I would like to config the drives in RAID-0. I used to use the Net Install but 20.04 doesn't seem to have a Net Install option. Can anyone point me to the right direction?
[00:12] <tomreyn> carrera: RAID-0 means doubling the chance to loose data, you're aware of this?
[00:14] <tomreyn> carrera: RAID-0 means doubling the chance to loose data, you're aware of this?
[00:15] <carrera> tomreyn, yes, I am  :(
[00:15] <tomreyn> i guess your options are installing the server installer, the legacy server installer, or debootstrap.
[00:15] <tomreyn> *using the
[00:16] <tomreyn> i don't think the desktoip installer supports this scenario (but can always be wrong)
[00:18] <waltman> I upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 this morning. I just ran ps and I saw that I've got processes with pid's > 32767! That seems to be new in 20.04. Is that documented anywhere?
[00:20] <nightBulb15> I installed Ubuntu 20.04 yesterday,
[00:20] <carrera> tomreyn, thanks
[00:21] <nightBulb15> There is no sound through HDMI
[00:21] <nightBulb15> I'm using nvidia graphics card
[00:22] <tomreyn> waltman: did the output of     cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max   change then?
[00:22] <nightBulb15> GF108 High Definition Audio Controller
[00:23] <nightBulb15> The only output available is Digital Outpu (S/PDIF)
[00:23] <nightBulb15> Also the mic (laptop webcam) is also not detected
[00:23] <waltman> tomreyn: An excellent question! It's currently 4194304. I don't know what it used to be.
[00:24] <nightBulb15> I mean the mic embedded along the laptop webcam is also not detected
[00:24] <nightBulb15> Its a fresh install
[00:24] <tomreyn> waltman: 32768 on amd64 18.04 LTS. it's probably made possible by dropping x86 support
[00:24] <nightBulb15> Anyone ?
[00:26] <nightBulb15> I ran alsa_info script
[00:27] <nightBulb15> and it uploaded the info on http://alsa-project.org
[00:28] <madprops> is it possible to avoid apparmor messages like "apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" from spamming the journals?
[00:29] <nightBulb15> The audio was working on Ubuntu 18.04.4 (I upgraded it from 16.04) and now don't recall, If I implemented any fix in 18.04 or not.
[00:30] <nightBulb15> nVidia proprietary driver 390
[00:33] <nightBulb15> greetings, anyone there ?
[00:34] <tomreyn> !patience
[00:35] <nightBulb15> tomreyn :)    (y)
[00:35] <Bluecoat> Anyone know how to turn off cinnamon opengl effects?  They defaulted on with 20.04 and my terrible Intel graphics do not do the right thing with them.
[00:39] <nightBulb15> One thing to note though, following this ->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure,
[00:39] <nightBulb15> aplay -D plughw:1,9 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[00:40] <nightBulb15> the above command does play sound via HDMI
[00:42] <nightBulb15> aplay -l                  does seem to suggest that there are 2 cards, [ HDA Intel MID ] & [ HDA nVidia (hdmi) ]
[00:44] <nightBulb15> Houston, in the blind, this is Kowalski.
[00:44] <nightBulb15> :)
[00:46] <nightBulb15> I figured out that card 1, device 9 send audio to HDMI via this command -->> aplay -D plughw:1,9 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[00:46] <nightBulb15> but cannot figure out how to set it in Ubuntu Settings.
[00:46] <nightBulb15> Ubuntu 20.04
[01:10] <semitones> thanks tomreyn and quadrathoch2 !
[01:13] <Bluecoat> hm. Ok, revised problem statement.  After update, my opengl no longer works at all.
[01:13] <Bluecoat> glxgears is just a black screen
[01:21] <tripelb> Installing 20.04. i am taking an existing ntfs partition.. what I need to do is make another swap and a / --- or will it use the swap that is on the drive already?  --> i have windows,18.04, and several unused ntfs partitions (I was told to use the Windows partitioner, so I just partitioned up the disc.)
[01:21] <tripelb> Way back when I remembered my windows password.
[01:24] <RoseBus> hello, i have an old installation of ubuntu 16 on a partition and i'm trying to delete the partition but gparted wont let me
[01:26] <tripelb> RoseBus i am becomming a mistress of doing things another way. Can you reformat it i stead of delete it? Can you just install over jt?
[01:27] <RoseBus> i want to empty the hard drive for sale
[01:27] <tripelb> IANASO (I am not a sysop)
[01:28] <tripelb> Maybe if you boot from a liveusb so it can be unmounted RoseBus
[01:29] <tripelb> You can't do anything with gparted to a mounted partition
[01:30] <Bluecoat> weird, Cinnamon doesn't work but kde plasma does.  *shrug*
[01:30] <tomreyn> RoseBus: "delete the partition" really doe snothing to the data on the drive other than flip a few bytes on the partition table
[01:31] <tripelb> Somebody tell me do I have to create another swap partition to go with this installation or will it use the old one. Hi tomreyn
[01:32] <tomreyn> RoseBus: if you want to have a chance to prevent others from restoring the data you'll need to overwrite it (the data itself, so the entire partition, or better the entire disk, once all data is backed up) with random data or at leat zero it.
[01:32] <Betal> my gnome desktop can't delete files and can't open files giving a gnome-shell error on journalctl, but if I open ~/Desktop, I can delete and open the same file, is there a configuration about this?
[01:32] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Will use an existing swap aprtition.
[01:33] <tripelb> Bashing-om ok then all I need to make is /
[01:34] <Boyette> hi
[01:34] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Yup - formated for a linux file system.
[01:35] <tripelb> Ext4 / this is easier.
[01:35] <tomreyn> Betal: what's the error message? use a !pastebin for multiple lines of output, or imgur.com for a screenshot
[01:36] <Bashing-om> Betal: permissions ? what shows ' ls -ld /home/beta1 ' - where Beta1 is your actual user name on the system.
[01:37] <Betal> tomreyn: it is like, gnome-shell execution of "file/full/path" failed :: command not found, when trying to open
[01:38] <Betal> but if I open the file manager to ~/desktop, and double click, it opens the file
[01:39] <tomreyn> Betal: i didn't ask what it's like, i asked for an error message.
[01:41] <tomreyn> Betal: also the output of the command Bashing-om asked for may help. as well as auxialiary information, such as your ubuntu version, how this may have happened, when it started happening etc.
[01:42] <tomreyn> !details
[01:51] <woenx> Hi. Does someone have experience with exiftool?
[01:51] <woenx> I am trying to delete a specific xmp tag from a bunch of images, but I think i'm quite lost
[01:53] <s_> i have a slightly off topic question about kubernetes--may I?
[01:55] <Betal> tomreyn: https://bpaste.net/raw/BIMQ Ubuntu 20.04, started after the update to 20.04
[01:56] <Psi-Jack> I really like the fact that the 20.04 lockscreen no longer is its own image, but a blurry image of the desktop background, now. So simple, yet nice.
[01:57] <tomreyn> Betal: would you have any idea why    gnome-shell    would try to execute    "/home/betal/Desktop/Link to LOG.txt"    though?
[01:58] <s_> its almost like they saw a mac :)
[01:58] <Betal> tomreyn: this happens if I double click the given file on the "desktop" the gnome show up (the workspace's desktop)
[01:58] <tomreyn> Betal: hmm you upgraded to 20.04 LTS, this would have been an unsupported upgrade at this time.
[02:00] <s_> oh did 20.04 come out? cool. doing to update my 20.04 pre-release VM
[02:00] <tomreyn> Betal: change permissions of the file to not be executable, this will likely solve it.
[02:00] <Betal> tomreyn: the way the error happens is like gnome don't have permissions to execute the files, because when I open ~/Desktop on nautilus it can open
[02:02] <tomreyn> Betal: ls -l "/home/betal/Desktop/Link to LOG.txt"
[02:03] <Betal> tomreyn: just to say, this "Link to LOG" is a symlink
[02:03] <Betal> I can't remove the x flag
[02:03] <tomreyn> you're probably dealing with one of the several deficiencies of the gnome-extension handling files on the desktop
[02:04] <tomreyn> so where does the symlink point to and what are the permissions of that?
[02:06] <andre144k> hey all... i dont understand visudo exactly ... is there a way to run a script with root-privileges, without password is needed?
[02:06] <andre144k> i want allow this script only for one user
[02:08] <s_> andre144k: yep--the NOPASSWD directive
[02:09] <tomreyn> andre144k: so are you another person than the one who asked the same question in #ubuntu-de twice today?
[02:09] <s_> i always have to look up the exact syntax--the sudoers file format is hideous
[02:09] <Betal> tomreyn: meanwhile I found this on journalctl -f https://bpaste.net/raw/H3KA
[02:09] <tomreyn> s/another/a different/
[02:10] <andre144k> tomreyn, no, im here registered with only this username
[02:11] <tomreyn> andre144k: okay, just a coincidence then.
[02:12] <andre144k> maybe someone have an exact example for user "foobar" and script "/Scripts/foo.sh" - i dont understand exactly how to define this correct
[02:14] <tomreyn> so if user "someuser" is to be able to run /usr/sbin/somescript as root without a password prompt, you would do     echo 'someuser     ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/somescript' | sudo tee -a /etc/sudoers.d/somescript_someuser >/dev/null     then after next logout and login this should start working (sudo is still needed)
[02:14] <andre144k> foobar ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /Script/foo.sh
[02:14] <andre144k> this should it be
[02:16] <tomreyn> you'll basically be undermining an essential security concept there, though, so make sure this script can't take arguments which could elevate access further.
[02:20] <andre144k> tomreyn, thank you for informations... its a little usv-script which is sending mailreport and will shutdown database before stop system normaly
[02:29] <andre144k> thank you much, its working :)
[02:38] <aaaardvark__> I am trying to connect to a server using ssh -X - I use ssh all the time, have never wanted x before, all seems fine till I try and invoke a graphical program, at that time I get the error: Error: no DISPLAY environment variable specified - what do I need to do that I am not doing on which (ie client or server) machine?
[02:44] <Betal> tomreyn: reloging 'fixed' the errors from last paste, and yes, looks the x flag make diference, the link is to a file on ntfs partition, and I think this might affect it, (on 18.04 this specific behavior was working). I also tested with local files with x and without x flag, the file.txt with x flag don't open, so you are correct about it
[02:50] <aaaardvark__> if anyone cared - to solve my x problem I just needed to install xauth on the server
[03:28] <pennTeller> Hi guys, how do I configure a dns server from Ubuntu's recovery in order to be able to use apt? I am using ubuntu 18.04
[03:34] <Jordan_U> pennTeller: How are you connected to the internet?
[03:34] <pennTeller> Jordan_U: on eth0 and I already did ifup and dhclient. I have a working IP just not DNS :(
[03:35] <Jordan_U> pennTeller: Does your DHCP provide DNS information to other clients?
[03:37] <pennTeller> Yes it normally does
[03:37] <Jordan_U> pennTeller: Is this a desktop install?
[03:38] <pennTeller> Yes, desktop install on a Lenovo laptop
[03:39] <zhanx> pennTeller, goto here /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ and look for the connection name
[03:39] <zhanx> when you find it
[03:40] <zhanx> open it in an editor add either your dns or googles dns=8.8.8.8;
[03:40] <pennTeller> zhanx: ok in it
[03:41] <pennTeller> Thans that worked
[03:42] <pennTeller> :D
[03:43] <pennTeller> Thanks*
[03:44] <Rojola1> hi!
[03:44] <Rojola1> I am in trouble!
[03:44] <zhanx> no problem pennTeller
[03:44] <Rojola1> I just logged in via SSH to my server, and ran  apt update && apt upgrade
[03:44] <Rojola1> while it was upgrading, I got a screen asking me to configure postfix  (a blue config screen in the shell)
[03:44] <Rojola1> however, my internet connection got interrupted at that point
[03:44] <Rojola1> how can I continue on the server?
[03:46] <quadrathoch2> zhanx, theoretically what would i do, if I wouldn't have any file in that directory? (just looked into mine) (/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/)
[03:46] <zhanx> Rojola1, you cant
[03:46] <Ben64> always use 'screen' or something when doing stuff like that on a server so you can bring a session back
[03:46] <zhanx> quadrathoch2, make one based off the ifconfig names
[03:47] <Ben64> but you can probably run upgrade again to continue
[03:47] <zhanx> ben64 wont he have to kill the pid first
[03:47] <Mordoc> zhanx: Didn't it use to fire up another ssh session at port 1022 or is that false memory? Could be, I'm old after all...
[03:47] <Rojola1> zhanx, but there most be something I can do?!?
[03:47] <Rojola1> this is where I got interrupted:
[03:47] <Rojola1> https://filebin.net/8whxhq5u0u8v8w54/interrupted_here.png?t=6m4wkmgc
[03:47] <Ben64> zhanx: maybe
[03:48] <Ben64> try doing upgrade again Rojola1
[03:48] <zhanx> Mordoc, maybe, i just use screen these days
[03:48] <Rojola1> Ben64, I did - the pid is locked
[03:48] <Rojola1> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:48] <Rojola1> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:48] <quadrathoch2> thanks zhanx
[03:48] <Ben64> is apt or dpkg runningc currently?
[03:48] <Rojola1> Ben64, yes, of course it's running, but I can not access it any more
[03:49] <Ben64> of course? it could have gotten killed
[03:49] <Rojola1> Ben64, because I was logged in via SSH when my internet connection broke down
[03:49] <Rojola1> Ben64, am I allowed to end the process?
[03:49] <Rojola1> I don't want to cause a disaster
[03:49] <Ben64> will probably be ok
[03:49] <zhanx> Rojola1, end the process and restart it, this time over a screen session
[03:51] <Rojola1> zhanx, Ben64:  please hold my hand while doing so.
[03:51] <Mordoc> Rojola1: Try ssh'ing to port 1022 on the same box (assuming that you haven't UFW'ed it out of contact). Might be a door back in...
[03:51] <Rojola1> killall -9 apt  ?
[03:51] <Rojola1> Mordoc, I can SSH my way onto the server
[03:51] <Ben64> just do it by pid
[03:51] <zhanx> restart sshd
[03:51] <Ben64> find the process and just "kill <pid>" it
[03:51] <Rojola1> Mordoc, the problem is,  that  "apt upgrade" did not get finished
[03:51] <Rojola1> ok, one moment
[03:52] <Rojola1> done
[03:52] <Mordoc> Rojola1: If you are doing a do-release-upgrade it starts a backup session for cases like this, it only works if you have screen installed as well.
[03:52] <Mordoc> Rojola1: If it doesn
[03:52] <Rojola1> how does screen work?
[03:53] <Mordoc> Rojola1: screen -r
[03:53] <Ben64> it keeps a session going and you can have mutiple windows and all kinds of cool stuff
[03:53] <Rojola1> thank you,  time to hit the manpage!
[03:53] <Mordoc> Rojola1: if it doesn't work, apparently screen isn't installed and zhanx and Ben64 are right, do what they say...
[03:54] <Rojola1> I ran into one more issue now
[03:54] <zhanx> still locked on the file right?
[03:54] <Rojola1> https://dpaste.org/Aax4/raw
[03:54] <Rojola1> zhanx, nah, it seems to work
[03:54] <Rojola1> but I am being asked this (see url)
[03:54] <Mordoc> I'm on a terminal only session gang, I'm out...
[03:54] <zhanx> Rojola1, that is a Y
[03:55] <Rojola1> thank you Mordoc, bye!
[03:55] <Jordan_U> Rojola1: I am curious about how that file got deleted. Did you do that?
[03:55] <Rojola1> thank you zhanx !
[03:55] <Rojola1> thank you Ben64
[03:56] <zhanx> when you need to configure fstrim you will know it for the cron job etc
[03:56] <Rojola1> Jordan_U, no, I did not, that's why I preferred to ask rather than doing anything
[03:56] <Rojola1> apt ended with an error
[03:56] <Mordoc> Good work folks...
[03:57] <Rojola1> I only paste the last few lines:
[03:57] <Rojola1> https://dpaste.org/iO3W/raw
[03:57] <Jordan_U> Rojola1: Deleting configuration files isn't something that scripts or humans do very often, at least not intentionally. This file should be fine, but I'm curious if you have a larger problem that caused this.
[03:57] <Rojola1> Jordan_U, probably time to take a backup...
[03:58] <zhanx> Rojola1, that was the lock i was waiting you to say
[03:59] <zhanx> dpkg --configure -a (as sudo or su)
[03:59] <Rojola1> https://dpaste.org/jxkA/raw
[03:59] <Rojola1> zhanx, ^
[04:01] <Rojola1> zhanx, can this be fixed, pleeeease?
[04:01] <zhanx> try  apt update && apt upgrade one more time and if that doesn't work we will unlock manually (not recommended)
[04:02] <Rojola1> thank you zhanx for being there for me
[04:02] <Rojola1> zhanx, https://dpaste.org/SEEA/raw
[04:02] <zhanx> i had tons of help when i first started out, trust me, its just paying it back
[04:03] <zhanx> apt-get -f install
[04:04] <Rojola1> should I really confirm?   =>  https://dpaste.org/g84c/raw
[04:05] <zhanx> Rojola1, yes that is the package you needed that was broke
[04:05] <zhanx> aka this https://dpaste.org/iO3W/raw
[04:06] <Rojola1> omg...
[04:06] <Rojola1> https://dpaste.org/N7kT/raw
[04:06] <Rojola1> god I really messed up
[04:06] <zhanx> nope
[04:06] <zhanx> pm time for these commands
[04:09] <zhanx> Rojola1, that show get you rolling now
[04:10] <zhanx> ^should
[04:11] <zhanx> Rojola1, after the updates you need to install screen
[04:13] <Rojola1> zhanx, I already said my thanks in the private chat,  however,  I also want the public to know:  zhanx saved the day,  it works!! THANK YOU :)
[04:13] <zhanx> Rojola1, keep in mind, I broke it like that before
[04:14] <Rojola1> how would I reconnect to the same session using screen in the future?
[04:14] <zhanx> screen -d -r
[04:14] <Rojola1> if an SSH connection got disrupted?
[04:14] <zhanx> Rojola1, read up on screen you will love it
[04:15] <Jordan_U> Rojola1: You have to *start* your commands in a screen session. Just run "screen" to start a screen session. When you want to connect to that session run "screen -r".
[04:16] <zhanx> Jordan_U, his larger issue for losing that config file was where the update stopped it
[04:16] <zhanx> at
[04:18] <Rojola1> I am trying out 'screen' now
[04:19] <Rojola1> I typed "screen",  confirmed the text by hitting the ENTER key,  and then I can  cat > testing.txt   and typed some letters
[04:19] <Rojola1> now I am opening an other terminal,  and connecting from there
[04:19] <zhanx> install reptyr while you are at it
[04:20] <Rojola1> "There is no screen to be resumed."
[04:20] <Jordan_U> zhanx: That makes some sense, though now I'm concerned that whatever packager made the scripts for that package is doing this in a very poor way.
[04:21] <Jordan_U> Rojola1: You need to ssh in again and run screen -r from the server. screen doesn't replace ssh.
[04:22] <Rojola1> Jordan_U, I did that
[04:22] <zhanx> close the first terminal without logging out or you need to include the -d
[04:23] <Rojola1> YES
[04:23] <zhanx> Jordan_U, I can see that being an issue
[04:23] <Rojola1> it works!
[04:23] <Rojola1> -r -d
[04:23] <Rojola1> perfect!
[04:23] <Rojola1> so, if the server things I am still there -d
[04:23] <Rojola1> thx :))
[04:23] <Rojola1> today is a good day.
[04:24] <zhanx> Rojola1, screen can do more than that once you learn it
[04:24] <klu3> is it possible to use RAM for /tmp   so instead of using ssd or hdd it uses ram instead
[04:25] <zhanx> klu3, parts of it
[04:26] <zhanx> look up tmpfs and ramtmp (is that still a thing)
[04:27] <klu3> thanks, im thinking of upgrading my ssd to nvme in windows and i never get pass 8-9 gigs of ram and i have 16 gigs, so i look it up and found out there's this thing called ramdisk, and i wondered if its possible in linux as well
[04:28] <klu3> zhanx: thanks ill look it up
[04:28] <exit70> klu3, try /dev/shm
[04:28] <exit70> it uses tmpfs
[04:29] <klu3> exit70: thanks for suggestion ill take a look
[04:31] <zhanx> think i should just neural net this bot and only give it leg parameters and let it learn to walk
[04:31] <Jordan_U> klu3: https://ubuntu.com/blog/data-driven-analysis-tmp-on-tmpfs
[04:35] <klu3> Jordan_U: thanks all, brb gonna go do some reading
[05:04] <reederz> Hi there. Anybody know how to get preseed.cfg example for unattended installs of Focal?
[05:09] <quadrathoch2> reederz,https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/AutomatedServerInstalls
[05:10] <reederz> Thank you quadrathoch2
[05:10] <quadrathoch2> reederz, you're welcome :)
[05:36] <sharpee> Hi from Ubuntu 20.04 :wave: I am prepping an application for 20.04 and wondering if anyone could guide me in the right direction.ldd qt5app...    libicui18n.so.60 => not found    libicuuc.so.60 => not found    libicudata.so.60 => not found...
[05:36] <Jordan_U> sharpee: What application are you trying to install?
[05:37] <sharpee> it is for a blockchain application binary using qt5
[05:37] <Jordan_U> sharpee: Is this an application you're writing yourself? What is the name of the application?
[05:38] <sharpee> No, i am learning and debugging the app to aid core developers. The application is for https://github.com/MyHush/SilentDragon
[05:39] <Jordan_U> sharpee: Is the application for SilentDragon, or is the application SilentDragon?
[05:40] <sharpee> The app works on 19.10 and have little cpp experience with debugging. The application is called SilentDragon
[05:41] <sharpee> from using ldd tool, these three files are not found: libicui18n.so.60, libicuuc.so.60, libicudata.so.60
[05:41] <Jordan_U> sharpee: Great. You can find what package provides a given file using the apt-file command, for exple "apt-file search libicui18n.so.60" .
[05:41] <sharpee> okay
[05:44] <Jordan_U> sharpee: Did you already install the packages listed in the README? qt5-default qt5-qmake libqt5websockets5-dev qtcreator
[05:45] <sharpee> Hmm, that is a great question; i reinstalled 20.04 and I bet I forgot to do that.
[05:49] <sharpee> Jordan_U  I didn't. I thought the binary files for the avg. user shouldn't have to install these packages.
[05:49] <sharpee> I am installing now and will test again
[05:50] <sharpee> Jordan_U I ran this command for the .deb
[05:50] <sharpee> sudo dpkg -i SilentDragon-v0.9.1-x86_64.deb
[05:50] <sharpee> rather than building from source. Building from source, I ./build.sh
[05:51] <Jordan_U> sharpee: Then "sudo apt -f install" should grab any dependencies that you may be missing, if they are available.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> sharpee: Another option in the future is to run "sudo apt install /path/to/file.deb", do do the installation and grabbing of dependancies in one step. If the file is in your current directory be sure to do something like "sudo apt install ./SilentDragon-v0.9.1-x86_64.deb", the "./" lets apt know to look for a file in the current directory, rather than searching for a packagename from the repositories.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> sharpee: And if dpkg -i installed without error, but the app didn't run, then that means that whoever packaged it needs to add dependencies to the package.
[05:54] <sharpee> Super thanks Jordan_U You have been very helpful
[05:54] <dreamon> hello. those packages were holing back.  libsdl2-2.0-0 libsdl2-dev so I cannot upgrade to 20.04. how can I fix it?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> dreamon: Did you start the upgrade and it failed, or are you not able to start the upgrade? If the upgrade failed, please pastebin any error messages that it gave.
[05:57] <Jordan_U> sharpee: You're welcome :)
[06:02] <dreamon> Jordan_U, Its a german Ubuntu version. → https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/qWKjXdsmXg/
[06:04] <quadrathoch2> dreamon, I would remove all the ppas, so the upgrade doesn't break. Probably there are some ppas which don't have a 20.04 release deb
[06:06] <dreamon> quadrathoch2, yes. having about 15ppas
[06:06] <quadrathoch2> dreamon, make sure that they have a focal release, if not remove the package+ppa or wait :/
[06:08] <dreamon> quadrathoch2, Made a full backup. only want to test a little bit. how can i find out what ppa needs this failing package?
[06:09] <quadrathoch2> dreamon, sadly you would need to look them up on launchpad
[06:13] <dreamon> Ok. Thanks
[06:16] <ubone> https://bpaste.net/GJLQ why is apt installing another kernel?
[06:16] <quadrathoch2> ubone, because kernels are always a new package, so when you hit 3 (i think) ubuntu deletes older ones, and you have a backup kernel if the newest doesn't work
[06:17] <ubone> can i have 1 only
[06:18] <quadrathoch2> ubone, you could, but what is the benefit of that?
[06:18] <ubone> space is limited
[06:20] <quadrathoch2> ubone, have a look here :) https://phoenixnap.com/kb/ubuntu-remove-old-kernels
[06:21] <quadrathoch2> but it shouldn't help much, as the kernels reside on the /boot partition (which is it's own partition) and so you theoretically can't get that space back (for userdata)
[06:24] <ubone> is the newest kernel auto selected on boot
[06:24] <quadrathoch2> ubone, yes
[07:38] <lestac> hello!, i trying to remove a extension that don't work in 20.04, but don't have the option in tweaks/extension // gnome website, any help?
[07:39] <zvrk> lestac, name of extension
[07:40] <lestac> OpenWeather
[07:42] <zvrk> lestac, can you remember how you install with apt or website
[07:42] <lestac> sure! apt i think
[07:43] <lestac> (sudo apt install gnome-shell-extension-weather)
[07:43] <bgilb> had to use bash to do some weird shit with string replacement in a sh file
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> plz mind language bgilb
[07:44] <bgilb> my bad
[07:45] <zvrk> lestac, 'sudo apt remove gnome-shell-extension-weather'
[07:46] <aaron_m> I am having issues with VMWare Workstation 15 immediately after upgrading from Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04. Guest machines are causing the host machine to completely freeze. I cannot get to a terminal when the issue happens. Is suggestions for troubleshooting?
[07:46] <lestac> thanks zvrk !
[07:47] <zvrk> lestac, no problems you're welcome
[07:48] <lestac> so, still having in extensions.gnome.org , no problem ?
[07:49] <zvrk> lestac, no problem
[07:54] <noj-a> hi
[07:54] <bgilb> lol i dunno why i thought i needed sed
[07:59] <geirha> if you're running bash from sh, you might as well just write the script as a bash script to begin with
[07:59] <sumagna> where are the default profile pictures for the user stored?
[08:00] <sumagna> i like one of those pictures and so i want it
[08:05] <zvrk> sumagna, check /usr/share/backgrounds
[08:05] <sumagna> found it
[08:05] <sumagna> it was in /usr/share/pixmap/faces
[08:05] <sumagna> i liked the gamepad picture
[08:05] <sumagna> i set it as my face in the users
[08:24] <jeremy31> sumagna: USB wifi working?
[08:24] <sumagna> yea
[08:24] <sumagna> with the link u provided :)
[08:25] <jeremy31> good
[08:30] <p0a> Hello
[08:30] <p0a> How can I obtain a new version of xournalpp? The apt-get command gave me a version that doesn't have a feature I need
[08:32] <p0a> I tried to build xournalpp from source but it requires a cmake version that apt doesn't have
[09:08] <Bliepo> Hello - I am running a HTPC with the Athlon 200GE. I have noticed that in video playback, it´s using software decoding, not hardware decoding. In previous Ubuntu versions I used the oibaf ppa to enable hardware decoding. Is this still needed in 20.04?
[09:28] <Andrio> is it possible for a single partition of a drive with multiple partitions to be a member of a software RAID5?
[09:29] <quadrathoch2> Andrio, no
[09:29] <grawity> why not?
[09:30] <quadrathoch2> oh sorry i misunderstood the question
[09:30] <quadrathoch2> yes it can (if I understand now)
[09:31] <Andrio> how do I set it up like that?
[09:31] <Andrio> (on Ubuntu Server 20.04)
[09:31] <quadrathoch2> installer or cli?
[09:32] <Andrio> Installer
[09:32] <eliyahuTBR> hey guys, i'm trying to install an Appimage and I'm extracted it to my desktop and when I run in terminal I get "No such file or directory". File is executable. Any suggestions?
[09:32] <quadrathoch2> there should be an option for the partition to define the space for raid
[09:33] <quadrathoch2> eliyahuTBR, can you post how you try to launch the appimage?
[09:34] <eliyahuTBR> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9sJdZ9Z2r4/
[09:34] <quadrathoch2> first of all try to not use sudo for an appimage, as it shouldn't need root rights
[09:35] <eliyahuTBR> ok. i tried that after it didn't work w/o it
[09:35] <eliyahuTBR> i get the same results w/o sudo
[09:35] <grawity> it's a 32-bit executable so you need the 32-bit libc6 and related packages
[09:36] <quadrathoch2> grawity, which should still not give you an error of not finding that file
[09:37] <eliyahuTBR> ty
[09:37] <grawity> not unless it's about not finding the main ELF dynamic loader
[09:37] <eliyahuTBR> i'll try that
[09:37] <grawity> (the ld-linux.so file)
[09:38] <eliyahuTBR> libc6 is already the newest version (2.27-3ubuntu1).
[09:38] <grawity> you specifically need libc6-i386, I think that's what it is named
[09:39] <eliyahuTBR> i was using the wrong appimage
[09:39] <eliyahuTBR> thanks guys
[09:39] <grawity> if there's a 64-bit appimage, yes, it's better to just use that
[09:48] <Andrio> I had some hard disks that the installer lists as 'already formatted as ext4; not used' and it won't let me create a different partition arrangement on them; why would that be?
[10:33] <no-n> what can I do about Ubuntu/GRUB not detecting Windows 10 on the same drive?
[10:34] <no-n> It didn't say "Install alongside Windows", so I tried fiddling around with partitions and installing. Now I don't get a GRUB menu, so it just boots into Ubuntu.
[10:36] <Iarla> I've installed zfs-utils on Ubuntu 16.04. I have a memory stick formatted to zfs (using a simple zpool create command on the device). I can see the USB stick in Disks application, but the stick does not mount. Is there another step I should take?
[10:36] <rany> no-n, are you installing on x86 bios?
[10:36] <rany> i think detection will work only on uefi
[10:38] <no-n> it is uefi
[10:38] <no-n> hmm
[10:38] <grawity> Iarla: I don't think Disks supports zfs peculiar way of importing devices, does it? try `zpool import -R /mnt/usbstick`
[10:38] <no-n> maybe I had the BIOS settings wrong :/
[10:38] <tomreyn> no-n: you'd need to install ubuntu in the same boot mode as you installed windows
[10:39] <tomreyn> either legacy bios or uefi
[10:39] <tomreyn> what you're saying sounds like you did it in different modes
[10:39] <no-n> ahh
[10:39] <no-n> hmm
[10:41] <frema> Hello, since a couple of days I am flooded with the system notification under Ubuntu 19.10 "Chromium has been updated. It needs to be restarted for changes to take effect." Being concerned about the security of my system, I want to ask if this is the right forum for questions regarding this issue.
[10:41] <Iarla> grawity: I don't know how far Disks support goes, but I'm really only looking to mount it. Not to manipulate it. But I don't have a /mnt entry in fstab for it so I don't think 'zpool import -R /mnt/usbstick' would work. I thought USB sticks were 'exempt' from needing an fstab entry.
[10:42] <p0a> frema: Have you restarted chromium?
[10:42] <frema> not yet
[10:42] <p0a> So what is your question?
[10:43] <frema> I learned that there is no auto-update feature in chromium. So I am concerned.
[10:44] <p0a> What are you concerned about?
[10:44] <grawity> Iarla: but that command has nothing to do with fstab entries in the first palce
[10:44] <frema> Concerned about if my system is compromised
[10:45] <ducasse> zf chromium in 19.10 is a snap, which gets auto-updates
[10:45] <ducasse> frema: ^^
[10:45] <Iarla> grawity: ah, okay. I'll try it. How does it know which ZFS device to mount to the mnt location?
[10:46] <frema> ok. so I can relax.
[10:46] <grawity> frema: tbh I think you'd still get the same message even if it were updated via apt or any other way
[10:47] <frema> I got about 50 -100 notification in about one minute.
[10:47] <p0a> How can I add a binary file to my left-bar-thingie in my ubuntu?
[10:47] <p0a> I compiled a project to get the most recent version and I want to add it to my quick access programs
[10:47] <no-n> it looks like I did that yeah heh
[10:47] <no-n> thanks all
[10:48] <p0a> frema: Did you do anything that would compromise your system in the first place?
[10:48] <kostkon> p0a, create a .desktop file for it and place it in ~/.local/share/applications
[10:48] <p0a> frema: otherwise, a sophisticated hack that compromises up-to-date software would not be so silly to let you know with 100 chromium update messages
[10:49] <p0a> kostkon: thank you
[10:49] <frema> p0a: I joined a Zoom meeting and after this it happended. Could be just a weird coincidence.
[10:50] <p0a> frema: it sounds like a coincidence but if you're too worried about security you should learn some more on the topic
[10:50] <Iarla> grawity: it picked the right device. Thanks :)
[10:51] <p0a> frema: why don't you check what your system has updated around the date that you had that Zoom meeting? It would probably include Chromium
[10:52] <fub> Hi. Running ubuntu 19.04 on a thinkpad x1 carbon here (installed a few days ago). Whenever the notebook goes into sleep and I wake it up again, the touchpad is not working anymore.
[10:52] <fub> I need to reboot then. Waht can I do?
[10:52] <frema> p0a: Thank you for your time! I will check...
[10:52] <ducasse> fub: 19.04 is eol
[10:52] <ducasse> !eol
[10:53] <fub> sorry, 19.10
[10:53] <p0a> fub: it sounds like you need to reload the touchpad driver
[10:54] <p0a> fub: that's what I read online, is your software up to date?
[10:54] <fub> p0a: yeah I updated everything
[10:54] <fub> also a lot of firmware
[10:55] <p0a> fub: as a temporary solution you can disable sleep
[10:56] <fub> p0a: thats.. not what I want to do.
[10:56] <fub> its just replacing one problem with another (power drain)
[10:58] <p0a> fub: are your drivers updated?
[10:58] <fub> p0a: if they are updated over apt, then yes
[10:58] <p0a> thinkpad is lenovo right?
[10:59] <p0a> you need to visit lenovo.com and find the drivers for your model
[10:59] <p0a> Is it 7th gen you use?
[11:00] <tomreyn> p0a: "you need to visit lenovo.com and find the drivers for your model" is most likely nonsense.
[11:01] <p0a> tomreyn: ok
[11:01] <tomreyn> most kernel modules come with ubuntu. those which don't you usually need to build yourself from some third party source code repositories
[11:02] <p0a> my apology I was just trying to help
[11:02] <tomreyn> and i could have phrased it less drastic.
[11:02] <fub> Its the x1 carbon 5th gen
[11:02] <fub> I had it running a year ago without any problem. Ubuntu and Fedora.
[11:03] <fub> Now I reinstalled ubuntu fresh and want to work with this machine again, but this is really annoying.
[11:03] <fub> What else can I try here?
[11:04] <fub> I will try this now: https://askubuntu.com/a/1083546
[11:04] <fub> I wonder why such a hack is even needed
[11:04] <tomreyn> i'd search the web for:    linux OR debian OR ubuntu "x1 carbon" "5th gen" OR "Gen 5" synaptics OR touchpad resume OR suspend
[11:05] <tomreyn> "synaptics" is the name of the most common touchpad driver
[11:06] <grawity> hmm modern touchpads usually don't go through psmouse anymore
[11:07] <fub> grawity: but lsmod shows that psmouse is loaded
[11:07] <fub> or is this always loaded?
[11:10] <tomreyn> dmesg | grep LEN007    should tell whether you're having a ps connected track point
[11:10] <grawity> they first show up as PS/2 mice, but once recognized as a compatible touchpad they get taken over by e.g. a smbus-based driver
[11:10] <grawity> though I don't know about the x1 specifically
[11:11] <fub> ➜  ~ dmesg | grep LEN007
[11:11] <fub> [    0.466838] pnp 00:06: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs LEN0071 PNP0303 (active)
[11:11] <fub> [    0.466863] pnp 00:07: Plug and Play ACPI device, IDs LEN0072 PNP0f13 (active)
[11:11] <tomreyn> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(Gen_5)#Trackpoint/Trackpad_not_working
[11:12] <vamadir> Need help with ip adress. After how to save it with command "ip". When it try it with "ip address add" its working, but after reboot inteface is clean
[11:12] <tomreyn> fub: i guess you have one of the ALPS variants then
[11:13] <fub> tomreyn: so should I try the mentioned solution with the kernel parameter?
[11:14] <tomreyn> fub: the way i read it this parameter is about the touchpad not working at all.
[11:15] <tomreyn> so maybe this link isn't actually helping, sorry
[11:16] <fub> mh, okay
[11:16] <tomreyn> inspect your logs, see what's actually failing.
[11:16] <tomreyn> or post them on a pastebin
[11:17] <tomreyn> vamadir: which ubuntu version are you on? why are you doing what you're doing this way, and what is the overall goal?
[11:19] <vamadir> tomreyn: ity use default, commands to working with system. And i didnt unerstand ip commnand, save ip or just commit it until reboot? Ubuntu 18.04/20.04
[11:25] <tomreyn> vamadir: so is this Ubuntu 18.04 LTS or Ubuntu 20.04 LTS?
[11:25] <tomreyn> And is it Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server, something else?
 i try all of them
[11:26] <tomreyn> vamadir: what is not working with a fresh Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS installation?
[11:26] <vamadir> thanks, answer is founded
[11:27] <tomreyn> there is also #ubuntu-ru by the way, i think
[11:29] <MJCD> Hey all
[11:29] <vamadir> tomreyn, ip command will not save address. After restart all setiings will be lost
[11:29] <MJCD> binaries that are expected to be available to all users should be stored in ... ?
[11:29] <vamadir> thanks, any way
[11:29] <MJCD> maybe /var/bin?
[11:30] <tomreyn> that's entirely normal. the "ip" command does not persist any configurations across reboots.
[11:30] <tomreyn> that's on of the reasons why there are network configuration frameworks around those lower level utilities
[11:30] <tomreyn> *one
[11:32] <tomreyn> network manager and systemd-networkd and netplan amongst others.
[11:34] <MJCD> hallo
[11:34] <MJCD> lol
[11:34] <MJCD> oh der it's just /bin/
[11:34] <MJCD> my bad! thanks anyway xo
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:10] <Xard> my major problem with 20.04 usability are the desktop icons
[12:10] <Xard> you can't launch anymore anything from desktop icons
[12:10] <Xard> you can't drag icons to desktop and from desktop
[12:11] <Xard> and updates on desktop folder seem to randomly freeze the icon addon
[12:11] <brainwash> Xard: this still works fine in MATE, Xfce, etc.
[12:14] <Xard> and in KDE and earlier gnome where nautilus did take care of the desktop icons
[12:15] <tomreyn> gnome removed this functionality, ubuntu re-adds it. partially. if you're using gnome your best option is not to use it.
[12:17] <Xard> though the grid layout is more consistant than before so it's not a complete disaster
[12:30] <DerHorst> Hey, I am installing ubuntu on a bunch of donated old laptops for kids who cant afford laptops but need them for staying connected with the school for current reasons and I need your help...
[12:30] <DerHorst> One of the laptops behaves strange and goes to suspend every 10 seconds
[12:31] <DerHorst> I already found out (after hours of trobleshooting) that masking the suspend.target helps
[12:31] <DerHorst> Now I want to install ubunt in OEM mode. My question: How do I get a console during the oem installer?
[12:32] <DerHorst> (otherwise the system will suspend every 10 seconds during installation -.-)
[12:34] <DerHorst> (alternative question: from which point on will i be able to log into the oem-account, which will be created during oem installation?)
[12:35] <sumagna> grep 'Amp-Out vals:  \[0x00 0x00\]
[12:36] <sumagna> what does this mean
[12:36] <ioria> DerHorst, have you tried to boot with 'acpi=off' ?
[12:36] <sumagna> specifically this part "\[0x00 0x00\]"
[12:36] <westor> i am trying to update from 18.04 to 20.04 and get this error, any idea how to fix it ? https://pastebin.com/9mAfGk2U
[12:36] <sumagna> sudo do-releas-upgrade only
[12:37] <DerHorst> ioria: that is a part I can add to the grub boot options, correct?
[12:37] <sumagna> westor: sudo do-release-upgrade
[12:37] <westor> sumagna: same error
[12:37] <ioria> DerHorst, yes, or press F6
[12:37] <sumagna> without -d flag
[12:37] <westor> yeah same error with and without
[12:37] <sumagna> pastebin again
[12:38] <westor> https://pastebin.com/9mAfGk2U
[12:38] <westor> same exactly
[12:38] <sumagna> have you tried without the flag -d?
[12:38] <westor> the only difference is: Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts. Check your Internet connection or proxy settings
[12:39] <sumagna> you have internet?
[12:39] <westor> yeah
[12:42] <sumagna> westor: tried updating through the update manager?
[12:43] <westor> i use kubuntu
[12:44] <sumagna> kubuntu doesnt have update manager?
[12:44] <westor> it does but it says no update available
[12:45] <DerHorst> ioria: I tried this before, was not working. As far as  see, this laptop is "pushing" a virtual "suspend button" every few seconds...   BUT in the meantime i "accidently" quit the oem installer, which leds to a live cd mode, where I was able to mask the suspend.target with the ubuntu@ user and now I can start the oem install from there!
[12:45] <sumagna> westor: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-upgrading-ubuntu-desktop#3-check-for-updates
[12:46] <sumagna> done this?
[12:46] <halvors> Is there an ubuntu alternate installer for Ubuntu 20.04 LTS?
[12:46] <halvors> The subiquity installer doesn't create @ and @home subvolumes when formatting as btrfs.
[12:46] <halvors> Any way to fix this manually? How to tell ubuntu's grub package to boot from @ instead of the root of the btrfs filesystem?
[12:46] <sumagna> westor: change to "for any version" under the updates tab
[12:47] <DerHorst> I am soo happy... This stupid machine owns me a few hours of troubleshooting. The request from the teacher was to install Linux Mint, which had the same suspend issue during installation (but only during installation!) After installation, booting into cinnamon desktop the suspend issue was gone. But pulseaudio was not working there, no audio... A few hours troubleshooting there, untin I tried Ubuntu 20, to just check if the
[12:47] <DerHorst> speaker is working at all.
[12:49] <westor> sumagna: i change to any version, i used 'sudo do-release-upgrade' and it says no new version founded.
[12:56] <sumagna> then i dont know
[12:59] <ducasse> westor: it says that because the official upgrade path is not available until the first point release
[13:00] <sumagna> ducasse: it is already released
[13:00] <ducasse> 20.04 is, but not the lts upgrade from 18.04
[13:01] <Blendphys> Hello. Lubuntu 20.04, LXQt+compiz: I use the 'invisible' theme of gkrellm2. The transparency does not work. Any idea?
[13:02] <sumagna> if [ -n "$status" ]; then
[13:02] <sumagna> what does this mean?
[13:06] <ducasse> sumagna: see 'help test'
[13:06] <cyveris> sumagna: While 20.04 LTS is released, do-release-upgrade will not offer the upgrade until 20.04.1 is available.
[13:06] <sumagna> ohh
[13:07] <cyveris> sumagna: This is so as not to break existing systems due to potential bugs in a newly-released version.
[13:07] <sumagna> ok
[13:17] <westor> now when i am trying to update it gives me that error, https://pastebin.com/pcTsafsD
[13:22] <FurretUber> Hi, I noticed an error when checking my duplicity backups: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BgtQXCGdsX/ It seems the character "Á" caused some problems with the backup
[13:22] <MJCD> Hey all
[13:22] <tomreyn> westor: release upgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS are not supported at this time.
[13:23] <MJCD> I should ideally be using entirely `systemctl` services now right?
[13:23] <MJCD> znc only offers an init.d script
[13:23] <tomreyn> !releasenotes | westor
[13:23] <MJCD> but I want it as a managed service
[13:23] <phantasos> Hi
[13:24] <FurretUber> I am testing here and It seems I am able to restore the file correctly. However, duplicity seems unable to print the file names when I use duplicity list-current-files
[13:24] <MJCD> seems like an init.d could be pretty easily made into a service
[13:24] <tomreyn> westor: the do-release-upgrade software should still not print this error on your 18.04 system, which is a separate issue probably related to use of third party software.
[13:26] <westor> tomreyn: how to fix this?
[13:28] <tomreyn> westor: which third party software are you using? if you can install, run and post the output of apt-forktracer this may help you clean up your system.
[13:28] <tomreyn> !paste | westor
[13:29] <tomreyn> FurretUber: the utf-8 implementation in python2 is not great. if you can use python 3 and duplicity >= 0.8 this may fix it.
[13:31] <westor> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/tqunEe1m
[13:32] <FurretUber> tomreyn: I think this is python3 already: File "/usr/lib/python3.8/logging/__init__.py", line 1084, in emit
[13:32] <tomreyn> westor: what'S the output of     dpkg -l python* libpython* 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:33] <FurretUber> Duplicity version is 0.8.12
[13:33] <tomreyn> FurretUber: yes, you're right. which duplicity version is it?
[13:33] <tomreyn> FurretUber: hmm, so i guessed wrong, sorry.
[13:34] <FurretUber> This seems similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/duplicity/+bug/1431322 is this the same bug?
[13:34] <westor> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/7nqg
[13:39] <tomreyn> FurretUber: yes, a similar issue, not the same. unicode surrogates are a subset of (unprintable) unicode characters from what i read. it should probably not have been present in this file name in the first place. but then, the real problem is with duplicity (and its libraries) failing to handle its presence gracefully.
[13:44] <tomreyn> westor: i'm comparing the output to an 18.04 system i have here, give me a minute
[13:44] <westor> ofc thanks :)
[13:46] <tomreyn> westor: in the meantime, can you post this also:    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[13:48] <westor> sure tomreyn https://termbin.com/rnt5
[13:52] <tomreyn> westor: the package i suggested to install and the command i suggested to run is    apt-forktracer     not    apt-forktracker
[13:52] <westor> oh
[13:53] <westor> ok i installed it now tomreyn
[13:53] <tomreyn> westor: do you feel like sharing its output, too?
[13:54] <tomreyn> without the color codes please
[13:54] <westor> yeah , what you need me to do now
[13:54] <tomreyn> sudo apt-forktracer 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:55] <westor> https://termbin.com/6h2s
[13:56] <tomreyn> westor: what is your locale set to?
[13:56] <tomreyn> locale 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:57] <westor> https://termbin.com/5t65
[13:58] <tomreyn> that's a non-UTF-8 locale, those haven't been in use for a long time. why do you use it?
[13:58] <tomreyn> oh wait, sorry, my bad. it's just the C locale
[14:03] <tomreyn> westor: when you run this, what's the output?    export LANGUAGE=en_US:en; sudo do-release-upgrade -c
[14:04] <westor> https://pastebin.com/jDQ2mhX3
[14:06] <tomreyn> westor: so, reading this output, what do you think might be the probblem? https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[14:06] <tomreyn> ignore the url i added
[14:06] <tomreyn> westor: i'm rephrasing: so, reading this output you posted, what do you think might be the probblem?
[14:07] <westor> it says no release available, so this is ok because as i see in the link the 20.04 is not listed there
[14:08] <tomreyn> westor: before it comes to the conclusion that no new release is available, it also says that it failed to chjeck for a new release.
[14:09] <tomreyn> at least indirectly. it says "Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release. Check your Internet connection or proxy settings"
[14:09] <westor> yeah man, that error i have no idea why its there, because i have internet connection
[14:09] <westor> also i don't use proxy
[14:09] <westor> wifi connected
[14:09] <tomreyn> are you able to access this location from a web browser?
[14:09] <RoseBus> hello, thumbnails aren't showing Files browser
[14:09] <westor> yeah the internet is ok
[14:09] <westor> i am sure for that
[14:10] <RoseBus> they are showing for some files but not all files
[14:10] <westor> otherwise all the termbin would be failed
[14:10] <RoseBus> oh wait now they are showing
[14:10] <tomreyn> westor: what's the first line of output you see when you access https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release on this computer using a web browser?
[14:10] <westor> Dist: warty
[14:11] <westor> lol
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> RoseBus: please if you ask a question add more details so volunteers can help you a better way, ubuntu version? recently updated?
[14:11] <RoseBus> lotuspsychje, 20.04, it was because the files were located on a network share, i just had to change preferences
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> ok
[14:12] <tomreyn> westor: what does this return?   curl https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:12] <tomreyn> westor: also this:    wget -qO- https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release 2>&1  | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:13] <westor> https://termbin.com/9hwc
[14:14] <tomreyn> westor: what about the wget one?
[14:15] <westor> wget outputs nothing
[14:16] <CarloWood> Hi - I have a serious problem :/.  I can't decrypt files anymore with gpg.  This used to work asking a passphrase on in the terminal where you ran gpg - at some point it changed to getting a pop-up window that asked for my pass phrase - but now NOTHING happens!?  I don't get a popup and the command times out :/
[14:16] <CarloWood> >gpg --decrypt secretfile.gpg
[14:16] <tomreyn> westor: run     sudo do-release-upgrade -c     three times in a row. is the output always the same? does it always say "Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release"?
[14:16] <CarloWood> gpg: encrypted with 3072-bit ELG key, ID 9F52AAAF907E1906, created 2018-08-16
[14:16] <CarloWood>       "Carlo Wood (Aleric on freenode) <carlo@alinoe.com>"
[14:16] <CarloWood> gpg: public key decryption failed: Timeout
[14:16] <CarloWood> gpg: decryption failed: No secret key
[14:16] <tomreyn> !paste | CarloWood
[14:17] <cyveris> Wow. I haven't seen an ElGamal key in use in ages.
[14:17] <westor> tomreyn: yes 3 times same message
[14:17] <CarloWood> Can someone help me debug this? I REALLY need to be able to decrypt my files :/
[14:18] <cyveris> CarloWood: Do you have pinentry-curses installed by chance?
[14:18] <ioria> westor, cat /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available
[14:18] <CarloWood> cyveris: yes
[14:19] <westor> ioria: no such file or directory
[14:19] <CarloWood> Should I deinstall that to get the chance to enter my passphrase in a normal terminal?
[14:19] <tomreyn> westor: so apparently wget is broken for some reason. can you access other location susing wget?
[14:19] <ioria> westor, the file on bionic is there; please try again
[14:20] <westor> ioria: it says that isnt
[14:20] <westor> idk
[14:20] <westor> tomreyn: i will try to download a file via wget , sec
[14:21] <tomreyn> ioria: i would think that /var/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-available is written by do-release-upgrade after it *sucessfully* checked for available upgrades.
[14:21] <MdAyq0> Dear Ubuntu Team, is there anythng that prevents https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases from being updated concerning focal?
[14:21] <tomreyn> ioria: the check for available upgrades is what fails for westor
[14:21] <ioria> tomreyn, i see
[14:21] <RoseBus> is AFB better than SMB for Ubuntu?
[14:22] <tomreyn> CarloWood: which ubuntu version are you using?
[14:22] <westor> tomreyn: wget it worked, i download a file successfully
[14:22] <CarloWood> tomreyn: 18.04
[14:23] <tomreyn> westor: try this:   wget -O- https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:23] <tomreyn> CarloWood: i doubt gpg still supports ELG there
[14:23] <westor> https://termbin.com/7hw1
[14:24] <CarloWood> It worked fine - until I moved my hardware components from one case to another.
[14:24] <CarloWood> I need help with trouble shooting.
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> patience CarloWood when volunteers know, they will reply
[14:25] <tomreyn> westor: so your system is configured not to trust the let's encrypt root certificate
[14:25] <CarloWood> I managed to get around pinentry. Thank you cyveris
[14:25] <westor> nice at least now we know why it fails
[14:25] <CarloWood> The answer was: https://superuser.com/a/521027/809919
[14:25] <cyveris> CarloWood: Good job!
[14:25] <CarloWood> Also it is still not clear why pinentry suddenly stopped showing a popup.
[14:26] <tomreyn> westor: maybe you ran     sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates    at some point and chose not to trust some CA's?
[14:26] <RoseBus> on Ubuntu 20.04 I have a network mount via AFP that is not responding.  Via nautilus/files I cannot unmount.  How can i address this via terminal?
[14:26] <westor> tomreyn: i think no i didn't do that, but maybe it broke somehow else
[14:28] <tomreyn> westor: do you have /etc/ssl/certs/DST_Root_CA_X3.pem ?
[14:29] <westor> no
[14:30] <tomreyn> westor: what's the output of     apt list ca-certificates
[14:31] <westor> https://pastebin.com/BapugBc7
[14:31] <tomreyn> westor: do you have a file     /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt   ?
[14:32] <westor> yes
[14:33] <westor> oh wait there is the .pem also
[14:33] <tomreyn> westor: run    sudo dpkg-reconfigure ca-certificates     and choose to trust (select, tick, enable) the "DST_Root_CA_X3"  CA.
[14:33] <westor> in /etc/ssl/certs/
[14:33] <westor> sorry i didn't search good before
[14:33] <tomreyn> ?
[14:33] <westor> both files are located there
[14:33] <westor> .pem and .crt
[14:33] <tomreyn> what's the output of     ls -l /etc/ssl/certs/DST_Root_CA_X3.pem
[14:34] <westor> https://pastebin.com/Jt7scHve
[14:35] <tomreyn> westor: ok. what's the output of      grep Ob8VZRzI9neWagqNdwvYkQsEjgfbKbYK7p2CNTUQ /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt /etc/ssl/certs/DST_Root_CA_X3.pem /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:35] <westor> https://termbin.com/kivr
[14:37] <tomreyn> westor: what'S the output of     wget --ca-certificate=/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/ 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:38] <westor> https://termbin.com/hwub
[14:38] <tomreyn> westor: i accidentially had wget create a file index.html where you just ran it. use    rm index.html    to delete it.
[14:38] <westor> ok
[14:39] <tomreyn> westor: so the ca certificate bundle is fone on your system, and the system is configured to trust the "lets encrypt" root CA certificate. but your wget does not make use of the CA's your system is configured to trust.
[14:39] <tomreyn> *fine
[14:40] <ecov> I have laptop with an SSD and ubuntu installed, I'm going to be adding an HDD to the ultrabay slot as extra storage - how should I go about mounting on boot
[14:40] <ecov> where should I mount it to?   /mnt ?
[14:40] <ecov> then add it to fstab?
[14:40] <ecov> or /media
[14:40] <tomreyn> westor: wget --version 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999; apt policy wget 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:41] <westor> https://termbin.com/fkb0
[14:41] <westor> https://termbin.com/jbdx
[14:44] <ioria> westor, probably a bug; we can try to skip the ssl authentication
[14:45] <tomreyn> westor: hmm, all of this looks fine to me. the only explanation i can think of right now is that your /etc/wgetrc file has been customized
[14:45] <tomreyn> westor: does    grep -i cert /etc/wgetrc   return anything?
[14:47] <westor> nothing
[14:48] <FreeBDSM> hello, how to install keys from ppa:ansible/ansible?
[14:50] <DarkTrick> is devhelp maintained by ubuntu? Where is the place to file an enhancement request?
[14:51] <tomreyn> westor: is your system configured to use any proxies or vpn? do you use a local apt cache?
[14:51] <westor> nah mate really i will reinstall the os
[14:51] <westor> there are more issues came out now
[14:52] <westor> e.g: folders names https://i.imgur.com/45zEX5s.png
[14:53] <tomreyn> that's a result of how LANGUAGE environment variable setting
[14:53] <tomreyn> i meant to wroite: that's a result of your LANGUAGE environment variable setting
[14:54] <westor> i changed it to American English on Language tab in settings and it happens this
[14:54] <tomreyn> but i don't think the wget behaviour is. and i can't explain its behaviour right now.
[14:55] <westor> and under Formats to Default (C)
[14:55] <westor> the Region field
[14:55] <FreeBDSM> where does launchpad ubuntu store its keys?
[14:55] <westor> at least i did a back previously :P
[14:56] <westor> at least i did a backup* previously :P
[14:56] <westor> i had a feeling that something would not work as expected , thanks god for that feeling
[14:57] <westor> all i need is to re-install the os to 20.04 using a clean install, is there any command line command to do that now ?
[14:57] <tomreyn> no. you do a standard installation.
[14:58] <westor> boot from usb you mean ?
[15:00] <titivillus> I just had a weird thing happen where my mouse turned into a crosshair and I couldn't click anything, does anyone know what this is?
[15:06] <marcoagpinto> guys?!
[15:06] <marcoagpinto> .deb file no longer autoinstall on 20.04?
[15:06] <marcoagpinto> files*
[15:07] <amcsi> help, I'm upgrading Ubuntu, and I'm offered a screen in CLI telling me that Grub is being updated and I need to select stuff: https://imgur.com/a/dGShX7E
[15:07] <amcsi> and I'm not sure which to select
[15:08] <amcsi> now I know that /dev/sdb is my Windows HDD, so I definitely don't want to select that...
[15:08] <ducasse> FreeBDSM: try add-apt-repository ppa:ansible/ansible - that should add the keys
[15:09] <amcsi> but now I'm confused, because the other two options are /dev/sda which is my current Ubuntu SSD, but it also offers me /dev/sda2 which is my "/" partition
[15:09] <phantasos> Hi, does anyone know how to install the pyrit package?
[15:09] <amcsi> so I don't know if I should pick /dev/sda, or /dev/sda2, or both
[15:09] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhh... "open with other application"
[15:09] <marcoagpinto> I was able to install it
[15:09] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: there's a bug on .deb files not open software centre
[15:15] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje: so, it is a bug, not a feature?
[15:15] <marcoagpinto> :p
[15:15] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: bug #1873658
[15:16] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje: Will it be fixed on 20.04 or will it wait for 20.04.1?
[15:16] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: instead of joking around, help the community affect the bug, make the fixing faster?
[15:17] <marcoagpinto> me?! How?
[15:17] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> you already affected a bug with me another day marcoagpinto you know how..
[15:18] <marcoagpinto> Buaaaaaaaaa
[15:18] <marcoagpinto> I can't remember, was it that thing that you told me to vote?
[15:18] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: click the green line, 'does this bug affect you?' YES it affects me
[15:20] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh
[15:20] <DumbLDoor> Hi! I am running 19.10 and cannot remove Gnome Global Application Menu(HUD for Gnome) from software center. It says unable to remove(...)
[15:20] <marcoagpinto> sounds easy to do
[15:20] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:20] <ioria> marcoagpinto, grep deb /usr/share/applications/defaults.list      what returns on your system ?
[15:21] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje: What?! Only three persons said the bug affects them?
[15:21] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:21] <marcoagpinto> I thought thousands would click on it?
[15:22] <marcoagpinto> and is my account an Ubuntu One?
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> marcoagpinto: not every user helps testing development releases
[15:22] <DumbLDoor> any idea, anyone?
[15:22] <marcoagpinto> does this mean I can use the account for the update between reboots?
[15:22] <ioria> DumbLDoor, that should be a gnome-shell-extension  not a pkg, if i'am not mistaken
[15:22] <marcoagpinto> can't remember the technical name
[15:23] <DumbLDoor> i see the listing in ubuntu software center - installed "apps"
[15:23] <enriooooooo> hi im unable to reset password
[15:23] <ioria> DumbLDoor,  open gnome-tweaks see if it shows up in Extensions
[15:24] <enriooooooo> actually i don't remember my password
[15:25] <DumbLDoor> ioria: i disabled it all there
[15:25] <marcoagpinto> ahhhh... "Livepatch" is the name
[15:25] <marcoagpinto> :)
[15:25] <marcoagpinto> will my account work with it?
[15:26] <ioria> DumbLDoor, ls  ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions
[15:27] <DumbLDoor> ioria: RemoveAppMenu@rastersoft.com  user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com
[15:31] <ioria> DumbLDoor,    sudo updatedb &&  locate gnomeGlobalAppMenu
[15:31] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, if you are still here if you are sure it's sda for your ubuntu, then only select /dev/sda
[15:33] <DumbLDoor> ioria : done
[15:33] <ioria> DumbLDoor,    output ?
[15:34] <DumbLDoor> ioria: pastebin?
[15:34] <ioria> DumbLDoor,    sure
[15:38] <DumbLDoor> ioria: paste.ubuntu.com/p/WBDmdVHPj3/
[15:39] <ioria> DumbLDoor,    how did you install it ?
[15:39] <DumbLDoor> downloaded a deb, I guess
[15:39] <DumbLDoor> not sure
[15:40] <guerby> hi, on ubuntu 20.04 is it possible to have the Software application prefer .deb over snap ?
[15:41] <DumbLDoor> ioria: Not sure, perhaps downloaded a .deb
[15:44] <DumbLDoor> ioria: want to see gsettings get org.gnome.shell enabled-extensions?
[15:44] <ioria> DumbLDoor,  you already said they are all disabled
[15:44] <DumbLDoor> no, it gives me about 5
[15:45] <DumbLDoor> ioria: UI issue maybe, not consistent with command line
[15:45] <ioria> DumbLDoor,  <  i disabled it all there >
[15:45] <DumbLDoor> ioria: on the gnome-tweaks UI, I did
[15:45] <RoseBus> hello, how can I get vc++ libraries in my wine installation?
[15:45] <ioria> DumbLDoor,  that's the place
[15:46] <DumbLDoor> ioria: gsettings has about 5 in the output
[15:46] <DumbLDoor> disble them through command line?
[15:48] <ioria> DumbLDoor,  disable an extension does not 'remove' it
[15:48] <DumbLDoor> ioria: what's preventing removal from software center?
[15:49] <ioria> DumbLDoor,  dpkg -l | grep -i appmenu
[15:50] <DumbLDoor> ioria: ii  indicator-appmenu                                           15.02.0+16.10.20160927-0ubuntu3            amd64        Indicator for application menus
[15:51] <ioria> DumbLDoor, no it's not it
[15:51] <courrier> Hey guys, I was using LostIRC client so far when I realized it's not SSL-compatible and that... it hasn't been updated for 12 years!
[15:51] <courrier> it's still present in 19.10, does it mean that someone is keeping saying it's up-to-date and can be included in new Ubuntu versions?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6wC9CZmFbZ/
[15:52] <ioria> DumbLDoor,  that extension usually installs in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions ; so you just disable it in Tweaks ,remove the gnomeGlobalAppMenu and it's done
[15:52] <Fevix> Just updated to 20.04, all my window headers are now white. How can I change it back to the grey it was before?
[15:53] <Fevix> ...... also all the icons for like, minimize, maximize, close, are missing. I musta messed something up
[15:55] <DumbLDoor> ioria: Looks like tweak is not too clean, UI flutters when I use cursor with appearance
[15:55] <JoeMerit> ya thats the magic happening
[15:57] <Fevix> Any assistance? My window headers are messed up (possibly user error) after updating to 20.04
[15:59] <quadrathoch2> Fevix, hm, how did you upgrade?
[15:59] <Fevix> terminal
[15:59] <quadrathoch2> with what? editing sources.list? or do-upgrade-release?
[16:00] <Fevix> sudo apt update, sudo apt upgrade -y, sudo reboot, sudo do-upgrade release -d
[16:00] <Fevix> or something like that
[16:00] <quadrathoch2> any ppas?
[16:00] <Fevix> ppas?
[16:00] <quadrathoch2> launchpad repositories
[16:00] <Fevix> I don't think so?
[16:00] <Fevix> how can I check?
[16:01] <quadrathoch2> look into /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:01] <quadrathoch2> is there is something outside of 'normal' ubuntu
[16:01] <Fevix> File browser is crashing whenever I try to open it
[16:02] <quadrathoch2> hm the first one is a file, the second a directory, so that shouldn't crash
[16:03] <Fevix> No, I mean, I click the "Files" icon to open the file manager, it'll show for a few seconds then vanish
[16:03] <Fevix> I can't even navigate to anything
[16:03] <quadrathoch2> did you try to sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade?
[16:03] <JoeMerit> ya you need some more updates
[16:04] <Fevix> I didn't know there was a full-upgrade thing.
[16:04] <Fevix> Update was done several times, and I've done just upgrade a few times but it kept telling me there were like 224 not upgraded
[16:05] <quadrathoch2> Fevix, that's your issue then ;)
[16:05] <quadrathoch2> could you post the output onto a pastebin?
[16:05] <Fevix> Gotcha, thanks
[16:05] <Fevix> It's still running
[16:05] <quadrathoch2> kk :)
[16:05] <Fevix> If I have more issues, I'll be back
[16:08] <aLeSD> hi all. Is there a 32bit version on 20.04 ?
[16:08] <RoseBus> does it consume significantly larger amounts of resources to run a windows-only application in wine as opposed to running it in windows OS?
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> aLeSD: no
[16:09] <quadrathoch2> RoseBus, honestly I would say it's roughly the same, but because of drivers for example, some games/apps could run slower/faster
[16:10] <RoseBus> quadrathoch2, cool
[16:11] <RoseBus> i'm just running kindle for pc, and I just dont want to be sacrificing CPU longevity by using wine+kindle
[16:11] <quadrathoch2> there is a reason for example why doom eternal runs like 95% of windows
[16:12] <Fevix> quadrathoch2, thanks, full-upgrade fixed!
[16:13] <Ravisankar> hi, i installed windows 10 in my laptop and then i installed ubuntu 16.04 lts (i chose something else while installing ubuntu to create partition)
[16:13] <Ravisankar> but after that windows is not showing in the boot menu
[16:13] <Ravisankar> if i disable uefi option then it directly goes to windows not showing option to choose ubuntu
[16:14] <Ravisankar> if uefi enabled then it goes to ubuntu d
[16:14] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, seems like you installed windows with the bios option, and ubuntu with UEFi which are not compatible
[16:15] <RoseBus> quadrathoch2, what do u mean 95% of windows
[16:15] <quadrathoch2> performance :)
[16:15] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 ok, what needs to be done?
[16:16] <amcsi> help, after upgrading to Ubuntu 19.10 from 19.04, I'm getting an "Emergency Mode" loop... I press Control+D, and then it just says I'm in Emergency Mode and that I have to press Control+D, and so on
[16:16] <RoseBus> i dont follow.  you are comparing doom eternal on wine to windows?
[16:16] <quadrathoch2> you could install ubuntu as an bios option, or reinstall windows (and then probably ubuntu)
[16:16] <amcsi> might something be wrong with my fstab?
[16:16] <amcsi> I booted into a bootable Ubuntu 20.04 just now
[16:16] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, fstab or grub
[16:16] <RoseBus> you say that doom eternal runs 95% as well on wine as it does on windows?
[16:17] <RoseBus> that's pretty impressive
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> amcsi: 19.04 is eol, upgrading from an eol version can result into issues
[16:17] <quadrathoch2> yeah so there is only a small penalty for linux (depends on the gpu)
[16:17] <Ravisankar> actullay i said it reverse, if i disable uefi it goes to ubuntu, and if i enable uefi it goes to windows
[16:17] <amcsi> lotuspsychje, yeah probably. Better late than never though
[16:17] <quadrathoch2> okay, so that's way easier to fix :) Ravisankar
[16:17] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, grub did seem to load though... could there still be a problem with grub? I do know that it was upgraded
[16:18] <amcsi> to grub-pc
[16:18] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, the config file could maybe just not find the kernel *shrug*
[16:18] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 do we have any other way to show both the os while booting, without enabling or disabling uefi?
[16:18] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, sure. is it possible for you to load a live usb?
[16:19] <Ravisankar> yeah
[16:19] <quadrathoch2> that would be great :)
[16:20] <Ravisankar> what needs to be done while booting on live usb?
[16:20] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, okay, maybe... might that be easy to fix?
[16:21] <amcsi> here's my fstab by the way: https://pastebin.com/6mtgQbVQ
[16:22] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, do you know which of the devices your harddisk is?
[16:22] <Ravisankar> sda
[16:23] <Ravisankar> "/dev/sda?
[16:23] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, if it's sda then /dev/sda :)
[16:24] <quadrathoch2> so just to make sure, in a terminal type lsblk and look for it
[16:24] <quadrathoch2> and could you give me the output in a pastebin.com link?
[16:24] <Ravisankar> sure
[16:25] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, I do notice something written before it says emergency mode: /opt/szeremi-nginx/unts/ttg-vpn.timer:4 Failed to p... (cut off. next line...) ttg-vpn.timer: Timer unit lacks value setting. Refusi (cut off again)
[16:25] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, the only big issue I see is, that you mount sda2 twice
[16:25] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, I did notice that too. Maybe commenting out the second would help? Also like what I wrote above, could this custom systemd timer cause the entire booting to fail?
[16:26] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, try it :)
[16:29] <amcsi> alright, need to wait for my ubuntu live to boot again
[16:31] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 here is the output https://pastebin.com/qfPULe2C
[16:33] <amcsi> sadly fixing fstab didn't work. I'll try doing something with that systemd file
[16:33] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, did you boot off of the usb stick?
[16:34] <quadrathoch2> beause there is only 1 device
[16:35] <Ravisankar> ohh ok... so first i need to boot through live ubuntu... ok will do
[16:35] <quadrathoch2> yeah, sorry for maybe misunderstandings
[16:41] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 hi here is the new link https://pastebin.com/ncB4qtpb
[16:43] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, awesome, sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[16:43] <quadrathoch2> and then hm
[16:44] <quadrathoch2> it should be sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[16:44] <quadrathoch2> could you verify that there is microsoft folder inside that /mnt/boot/efi folder (or subfolder)
[16:45] <Ravisankar> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efimount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[16:46] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 hi here is the new link https://pastebin.com/ncB4qtpb
[16:46] <Ravisankar> sorry wrongly pasted
[16:46] <Ravisankar> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efimount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi does not exist
[16:48] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, so neither commenting out the second mount of /dev/sda2 in fstab helped, nor removing this seemingly bad ttg-vpn.timer systemd file. I would try and fix grub now, cause you said it maybe can't find the kernel. do you know how I could do that?
[16:48] <Ravisankar> it says mount point does not exist
[16:50] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, sorry got a phone call right now
[16:51] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 no problem, :-)  what needs to be done now?
[16:52] <AlexMax> I had a very strange instance where I came back to my computer and my monitor was in sleep mode and would not cut back on.  I had to hit the reset switch.  I don't think there's a consistent issue with sleep per se, because I had let my computer run for a week or so, so I don't think I've run into this issue before.
[16:52] <AlexMax> Also I had been running Fedora 31 for a month or two before that with no sisues, so I don't think it's a Linux or hardware issue per se.
[16:52] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, we need to find that efi partition mount  it to that directory and then execute 1 command (that's it then)
[16:53] <AlexMax> These were the last things in my journalctl befroe I rebooted https://paste.ee/p/BFAkA
[16:54] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 i used the command "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt"
[16:54] <Ravisankar> and now it shows some directories there
[16:54] <quadrathoch2> which ones?
[16:55] <oerheks> AlexMax, so steam was doing stuff?
[16:55] <Ravisankar> @quar
[16:55] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 it shows EFI folder there
[16:55] <quadrathoch2> awesome, so it was the right partition :)
[16:55] <quadrathoch2> so can you umount it again?
[16:55] <quadrathoch2> sudo umount /mnt
[16:56] <Ravisankar> ok sure
[16:56] <quadrathoch2> because we need sda5 on /mnt
[16:56] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 unmount done
[16:56] <Ravisankar> i will mount sda5
[16:56] <AlexMax> oerheks: Supposedly.  Though I'm not quite sure what steam could possibly do to cause my monitor not to cut on.
[16:57] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, by disabling "quiet splash" in grub, I see more things listed. Might the failure to mount my windows related /media/sdb5 or /media/Recovery be the problem?
[16:57] <amcsi> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ywmu32ybaxt3sl2/IMG_20200426_185352.jpg?dl=0
[16:57] <AlexMax> My gut is telling me it's a bug in the in-kernel AMD drivers, because my graphics presumably has been having driver issues on both Windows and Linux.
[16:57] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2 sda5 mounted
[16:58] <AlexMax> Most notably a floating phantom cursor in one corner of the screen.
[16:58] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: is sda5 the ubuntu partition? "ls /mnt" should verify what's inside
[16:58] <oerheks> tons of issues with sleep/hybernate, some fix this by switching to tty1 and back
[16:59] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ yes it is ubuntu partition
[16:59] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-suspendfail.html.en
[17:00] <Ravisankar> it has bin boot cdrom like other directories
[17:00] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, type the following "for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done"
[17:01] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ done
[17:01] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type "sudo chroot /mnt"
[17:02] <AlexMax> oerheks: My apologies if I misspoke or was unclear, but I do not "suspend" my computer as in the computer puts itself into a low power state.
[17:02] <AlexMax> The fins are still spinning, its just that my monitor goes to sleep.
[17:02] <AlexMax> erm, fans in my PC are still spinning, its just my monitor goes to sleep.
[17:02] <oerheks> oh oke, energy saving mode
[17:02] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ ok, then?
[17:03] <oerheks> i disable that standard.
[17:03] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type "mkdir /boot/efi"
[17:03] <Ravisankar> ok done
[17:03] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: "sudo blkid /dev/sda2 | nc termbin.com 9999" paste the link it gives you here
[17:04] <AlexMax> Is there a place where I can get updated kernels for Ubuntu?
[17:04] <AlexMax> Fedora kept up to date with kernel releases and I remember some of my issues progressively got less and less as the kernel updated.
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> AlexMax: if you encounter a problem with current kernel, please file a bug
[17:05] <oerheks> AlexMax, one could use the mailine repo to see if thing get fixed, but you might encounter other issues, like no nvidia driver support, just open drivers
[17:05] <oerheks> !mainline
[17:05] <oerheks> use at your own risk
[17:05] <allizom> Hi all, I've just installed Ubuntu 20.04 Desktop on a box, but both the login screen and the desktop are showing graphic artifacts. I'm using the default configuration for gdm/gnome. This is my GPU: "NVIDIA Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] (rev a1)". I'm using nouveau, I have installed nouveau-firmware and rebooted. I have not added any related parameter in grub.
[17:05] <Ravisankar> EriC^^    root@ubuntu:/# sudo blkid /dev/sda2 | nc termbin.com 9999sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntuhttps://termbin.com/2xpkk
[17:06] <AlexMax> I have an AMD card that has a reputation for having touchy drivers, so I am particularly interested in kernels that might contain updated drivers for it.
[17:06] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type "nano /etc/fstab"
[17:06] <oerheks> allizom, GeForce 7300 LE ... that is below the specs needed, for the nouveau ..
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> !20.04 | allizom check the releasenotes for the nvidia bugs
[17:06] <oerheks> !nvidia
[17:06] <oerheks> really old card
[17:06] <allizom> yep
[17:06] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: add a line at the bottom "UUID=2E08-8CC1  /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1"
[17:07] <quadrathoch2> EriC^^, hold up, there should be a efi folder already on /dev/sda2
[17:07] <EriC^^> quadrathoch2: yeah, i'm creating the one on the rootfs where the efi partition will be mounted
[17:07] <quadrathoch2> oh damn right sorry
[17:07] <quadrathoch2> move along
[17:07] <EriC^^> no worries, appreciate the look out though
[17:07] <AlexMax> oerheks: Thank you.  I will bookmark that, and when I have a minute I'll do some debugging.
[17:07] <EriC^^> also sorry for barging in
[17:08] <EriC^^> hope you dont mind and feel free to continue/add anything
[17:08] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ ok i added, need to save and close?
[17:08] <quadrathoch2> still on a call :/ so can only lookr for a sec or so
[17:08] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: yes, save and exit, then try "mount /boot/efi"
[17:09] <Ravisankar> done
[17:10] <Ravisankar> mounted /boot/efi
[17:10] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, try a quick "ls /sys/firmware/efi" to see if you're booted in uefi mode right now or not
[17:10] <EriC^^> if it shows dirs then you're in uefi mode, which is good, otherwise we will try a workaround for the first boot
[17:11] <Ravisankar> do i need to exit from root@ubuntu?
[17:11] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: no
[17:11] <Ravisankar> root@ubuntu:/# ls /sys/firmware/efils: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory
[17:11] <Ravisankar> sorry, i need to delete those quote
[17:11] <EriC^^> ok, so you're booted in legacy mode in the live usb, which means there's no access to the uefi menu
[17:12] <Ravisankar> ok?
[17:12] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: try "apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed"
[17:12] <EriC^^> it's expected to fail so no worries there
[17:12] <allizom> lotuspsychje, oerheks: Ubuntu 20.04 does not provide proprietary nvidia drivers compatible with my card. I had to install with 'Safe graphics mode' or the installer would crash, I believe that means adding nomodeset to the kernel command line. But if I boot with nomodeset I have no artifacts but a lower screen resolution.
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> allizom: ubuntu-drivers list
[17:14] <allizom> lotuspsychje: no output
[17:14] <oerheks> allizom, correct. that card is below the minimum specs, you get 2d, and probably bad youtube performance
[17:14] <oerheks> GeForce 7300 LE
[17:14] <allizom> oerheks: I'd be content with 2d at native resolution
[17:15] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ it is done, no error message...
[17:15] <Ravisankar> Generating grub configuration file ...Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-45-genericFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-45-genericFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elfFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bindoneSetting up grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.66.23+2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.23) ...root@ubuntu:/#
[17:16] <Ravisankar> Generating grub configuration file ...Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-45-genericFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-45-genericFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elfFound memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bindoneSetting up grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.66.23+2.02~beta2-36ubuntu3.23) ...root@ubuntu:/#
[17:16] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[17:17] <Ravisankar> root@ubuntu:/# grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi
[17:17] <Ravisankar> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[17:17] <quadrathoch2> sudo apt install os-prober is missing EriC^^ Ravisankar
[17:17] <Ravisankar> efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[17:17] <Ravisankar> efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[17:17] <Ravisankar> Installation finished. No error reported.
[17:17] <Ravisankar> root@ubuntu:/#
[17:18] <EriC^^> quadrathoch2: nah, it's just currently oblivious to any windows efi right now, since it's booted in legacy mode
[17:18] <quadrathoch2> i would still install it *shrug*
[17:18] <quadrathoch2> as you would need it later
[17:18] <EriC^^> quadrathoch2: it should be installed but we can check
[17:19] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type 'dpkg -l | grep -E "grub|prober" | nc termbin.com 9999'
[17:19] <EriC^^> we can see the grub packages status as well to make sure it'll all good
[17:19] <Ravisankar> https://termbin.com/yc4y
[17:20] <slingamn> anyone know how to take a disk image of a nvme drive?
[17:20] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, type 'apt-get remove grub-pc-bin'
[17:20] <quadrathoch2> oh i looked at the wrong package :/
[17:20] <quadrathoch2> k
[17:21] <EriC^^> slingamn: sudo dd if=/dev/nvme....  of=/path/to/file bs=4M conv=notrunc,fsync status=progress
[17:21] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ done
[17:21] <slingamn> do i act on /dev/nvme0 or /dev/nvme0n1?
[17:21] <EriC^^> slingamn: nvme0 if you want the whole disk, partition table + partitions
[17:22] <EriC^^> if you just want a single filesystem then nvme0n...
[17:22] <slingamn> i think the partitions are at, e.g., /dev/nvme0n1p1
[17:22] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, we have to now switch the efi files so that the bios boots ubuntu, then we'll switch them back
[17:23] <slingamn> the n's are a different layer of abstraction
[17:23] <EriC^^> slingamn: oh, then nvme0n1
[17:23] <slingamn> makes sense
[17:23] <claim> Hi people - question regarding boot console output: I am on 18.04.4 on a XCP-NG guest. I see the grub2 menu and can work with it or just go ahead and boot the default choice (auto after 5 sec). Then the screen goes blank for about 10-15 sec until I see the timestamped kernel messages. From there on, it is a normal boot. But I think I am missing some console output right after grub starts booting. Any ideas on how to get this missing console output?
[17:23] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ ok...
[17:24] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type 'cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}'
[17:24] <Ravisankar> ok
[17:24] <Ravisankar> done
[17:24] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type 'cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi'
[17:26] <Ravisankar> root@ubuntu:/# cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[17:26] <Ravisankar> cp: cannot stat '/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi': No such file or directory
[17:26] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ah i know what happened
[17:26] <jeremy31> is it /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu
[17:27] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type 'cp -r /boot/efi/efi/grub /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu'
[17:27] <allizom> oerheks: I don't need to decode videos in hardware, or to have 3d desktop effects. I just need to use my display at its native resolution - can I disable 3d effects, or force nomodeset booting to native mode?
[17:28] <Ravisankar> cp: cannot stat '/boot/efi/efi/grub': No such file or directory
[17:28] <EriC^^> odd, i wonder where grub put those files, type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:29] <Ravisankar> https://termbin.com/odbh
[17:29] <oerheks> allizom, you might want to use a lightweight desktop for that, xubuntu or mate?
[17:29] <oerheks> !flavors
[17:29] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: oh, it didnt put the secureboot one
[17:29] <oerheks> allizom, i would try to get a nvidia 9600 or something
[17:30] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type "grub-install --uefi-secure-boot --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[17:30] <allizom> oerheks: can I use gnome-flashback (fallback, I do not remember exactly)?
[17:30] <allizom> or just disable 3d in gnome?
[17:31] <EriC^^> i wonder why it didn't put it though, usually it includes it by default
[17:31] <allizom> oerheks: could it have anything to do with wayland or x?
[17:31] <Ravisankar> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[17:31] <Ravisankar> efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[17:31] <Ravisankar> efibootmgr: EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[17:31] <Ravisankar> Installation finished. No error reported.
[17:32] <oerheks> allizom, no, it is just ancient hardware.
[17:32] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, see if the file exists now "ls /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi"
[17:32] <oerheks> linux is not static, hardware ages, try a lightweight desktop, i have no other tip.
[17:33] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, lol, ok so I uncommented _all_ the windows stuff in fstab. Turns out the problem was that ntfs-3g was not recognized, because it was probably uninstalled :D
[17:33] <Ravisankar> ls: cannot access '/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi': No such file or directory
[17:33] <allizom> oerheks: thanks anyway, I'll see what I can do
[17:33] <amcsi> now I'm past the Emergency Mode... though I'm greeted with an old-fashioned CLI login rather than the Ubuntu 19.10 gui login
[17:34] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, nevermind i guess we'll use the normal grubx64.efi one
[17:35] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type 'cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi'
[17:35] <Ravisankar> done
[17:35] <amcsi> also I can't access the internet
[17:36] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: also 'cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot'
[17:36] <Ravisankar> ok, done
[17:37] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type 'exit'
[17:37] <Ravisankar> ok..
[17:37] <EriC^^> then try rebooting, choose uefi mode, it should boot ubuntu instead of windows
[17:37] <EriC^^> make sure secureboot is off in the bios
[17:37] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, to get a gui type sudo systemctl isolate graphical.target
[17:37] <Ravisankar> ok, secureboot means fastboot?
[17:38] <RoseBus> using dpkg is there a way to install dependencies automatically?
[17:38] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: no
[17:38] <quadrathoch2> RoseBus, use apt if you want to isntall also dependencies
[17:38] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ ok, i will look in the bios setup... won't it show both the os to select?
[17:39] <Ravisankar> or do we need some procedure after booting into windows?
[17:39] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: right now no, after you boot ubuntu we can set up the efi properly
[17:39] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, you want to boot ubuntu, so in the grub menu you can choose windows to boot, the other way around it doesn't work
[17:39] <EriC^^> right now the live usb is booted in legacy mode, so it cant access the efi variables to set anything
[17:40] <quadrathoch2> yeah I was just explaining for later :)
[17:40] <EriC^^> yes yes, replying to Ravisankar :)
[17:40] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: anyways go for it, see what happens, report back to continue
[17:40] <Ravisankar> ok, i will boot and will login here again.. :-)
[17:41] <EriC^^> alright :)
[17:41] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, thanks... but it didn't work. It asked for my password, and then it just hanged. Since in this CLI internet doesn't work, and in fact the ifconfig command can't even be found, I think the system is fundamentally broken. I'm probably just going to have to install a fresh Ubuntu
[17:42] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, sounds like the reinstall is easier, just do not try to replicate everything, so we land here in a week again ;)
[17:42] <Psil0Cybin> random question how does on get into the Ubuntu group? out of curiosity? contributions? or
[17:43] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, I'm going straight for Ubuntu 20.04 now :P
[17:43] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, you can also break 20.04 :p
[17:43] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, oh well, I'm used to it. Upgrading Ubuntu always results in problems :(
[17:43] <amcsi> thanks for the help anyway
[17:44] <quadrathoch2> never had really big issues (i am using linux for about 20ish years)
[17:44] <amcsi> and I almost always had issues :/
[17:44] <amcsi> since 2010 when I started using Linux
[17:44] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, the start is always hard, as most people are so used to windows. but it will get easier :)
[17:45] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ hi i joined
[17:45] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: wb, were you able to boot ubuntu?
[17:46] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, well, you see it really depends on how much time do you try to fix linux/windows etc. As I was in my junior when I first started out, I had the time. Nowadays, I would probably be stuck on windows
[17:46] <Ravisankar> yes, it directly booted into ubuntu while uefi enabled, but not showing windows
[17:46] <quadrathoch2> while fixing, you learn *alot*
[17:46] <Nomad_> anyone else having issues with snap based apps blowing up on 20.04 with an "fopen" permission error in /sys?   snapd v 2.44.3+20.04 , all versions of chromium and discord do it
[17:47] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, could you type 'sudo update-grub2'
[17:47] <EriC^^> 1 sec, not yet cause we switched the files :)
[17:47] <quadrathoch2> which files :)? i should probably leave it to you then, as I got no idea at which step you are
[17:48] <Ravisankar> ohh, but i entered the command....
[17:48] <EriC^^> it's ok no worries
[17:48] <Ravisankar> Generating grub configuration file ...Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-45-genericFound initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-45-genericFound Windows Boot Manager on /dev/sda2@/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efidone
[17:48] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: what kind of laptop/pc is this?
[17:49] <Ravisankar> samsung laptop
[17:49] <EriC^^> ok
[17:49] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: type 'cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi.backup /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi'
[17:50] <Ravisankar> cp: failed to access '/boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi': Permission denied
[17:50] <Ravisankar> do i need to use sudo?
[17:50] <EriC^^> yes
[17:51] <Ravisankar> ok done
[17:51] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, type "grub-install" this time it should not error out on the efivars
[17:51] <EriC^^> sorry *sudo
[17:51] <blb4393> sudo make me a sandwich
[17:52] <Ravisankar> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.Installation finished. No error reported.
[17:52] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, confirm ubuntu is added with "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[17:53] <Ravisankar> https://termbin.com/wp0m
[17:54] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, hopefully it'll boot ubuntu next reboot, if you want you can run sudo update-grub again for good measure though i think its not necessary
[17:54] <Ravisankar> ok, will it show both the os to choose?
[17:54] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: it's possible the pc is finicky about booting ubuntu btw, just so you know, in that case we'll have to boot the live usb again, and switch the efi files again and add windows manually
[17:54] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: yes
[17:55] <quadrathoch2> it should work. but Ravisankar should test to boot windows and then ubuntu again. because sometimes there is a bug and you can't reboot to ubuntu
[17:55] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: anyways, restart and see what happens
[17:55] <EriC^^> yup that too
[17:55] <quadrathoch2> damn you were faster
[17:55] <Ravisankar> ok, will reboot the system
[18:00] <eelstrebor> anyone know what causes this (ubuntu 18.04): [WARNING] dnscrypt-proxy: Systemd sockets are untested and unsupported - use at your own risk
[18:00] <eelstrebor> doesn't seem to be anything on this during a web search
[18:01] <oerheks> so you set, dnscrypt-proxy, to a dns provider, which one?
[18:02] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ and quadrathoch2 hi... i did reboot and chose windows boot manager.. successfully able to login to the windows... and again restarted.... and chose ubunut... successfully able to login now
[18:02] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: great
[18:02] <quadrathoch2> yay :)
[18:03] <oerheks> pretty good howto + test https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/10/install-and-enable-dnscrypt-proxy-2-in.html
[18:03] <Ravisankar> EriC^^ and quadrathoch2 thank you for your support...  though i didn't understand many part... i learned many things today... is there any systematic guidelines for this kind of issue??
[18:04] <tomreyn> eelstrebor: https://github.com/DNSCrypt/dnscrypt-proxy/wiki/systemd
[18:05] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: if you want i've written a bunch of stuff in a site if you find it helpful, it has a lot about booting problems http://pchelp.youtubextras.com/topics/booting-issues
[18:06] <EriC^^> other than that there's the ubuntu uefi help page and archwiki has a lot of good stuff to name a few
[18:07] <quadrathoch2> the archwiki has good information, but not everything is 100% copy and paste :/
[18:08] <Ravisankar> thank you EriC^^ i will into the website later... actually i have 300 gb space unused in my hard disk now... i want to create ntfs partitions... which will be better to do the same? in ubuntu using  gparted or in windows diskmgmt
[18:09] <Ravisankar> if i try to create ntfs partitions will it affect the boot manager?
[18:09] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: personally for ntfs i'd use windows tools, in the end ntfs was blindly reverse engineered, and i've not had so much luck with ntfs linux tools sometimes
[18:09] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, sadly if you want to use it for exchanging files, you need a 'fix' for windows so ubuntu can access it
[18:09] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: no, it shouldnt
[18:10] <quadrathoch2> Ravisankar, https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup
[18:10] <quadrathoch2> if it is enabled, windows will never shut down correctly (it only sleeps) and that's why ubuntu can't access the filesystem
[18:11] <ahmedamerican> Hello, am new to Ubuntu and i have a question regarding the correct place to put my git repo? I've been reading many answers on `askubuntu.com` but i still a little bit confused. this repo is already presented within package manager and once installed, i noticed it's allocated within `/usr/share` but how if i want to git clone it manually? shall i
[18:11] <ahmedamerican> put it inside /opt ? or where
[18:12] <amcsi> hey, will my existing Ubuntu installation's /home directory be kept if I install ubuntu like this? There's no separate /home partition: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hz7wuob5xk0qlle/IMG_20200426_201031.jpg?dl=0
[18:14] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, you need to select the partition and mount it as /home. but make sure that it won't get formated
[18:14] <quadrathoch2> oh wait
[18:14] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, there's no separate /home partition. There's only /
[18:14] <quadrathoch2> no, if you would install it over, you would wipe everything
[18:14] <amcsi> :(
[18:15] <quadrathoch2> do you have any way to backup your files?
[18:15] <Ravisankar> quadrathoch2.. thank you for the link... i read the page... i will disable it... EriC^^ thank you... i will create the partitions in windows
[18:15] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, I could back them up, yes. Though there are tons of .git projects, so it would take ages to do
[18:15] <oerheks> without backup, your data is not important :-D
[18:15] <eelstrebor> tomreyn, thanks
[18:16] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, maybe I should reinstall Ubuntu 19.10 first in case it would offer me to keep my home files?
[18:16] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, create a seperate /home partition next time :)
[18:16] <anotherandomguy> is anyone else missing icons in gnome software center for ubuntu?
[18:16] <anotherandomguy> icons not applications
[18:16] <quadrathoch2> amcsi, it won't as it is all in one partition
[18:16] <quadrathoch2> anotherandomguy, yes
[18:16] <anotherandomguy> ok thanks :-)
[18:17] <EriC^^> Ravisankar: ok, no problem
[18:18] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, I could swear I found some stackoverflow-like thing where someone said you can reinstall Ubuntu keeping your /home without even having to have it as a separate partition...
[18:19] <oerheks> AFAIK; the installer gives the option to reinstall, keeping home..
[18:19] <EriC^^> amcsi: yeah i think it's a thing, as oerheks mentioned
[18:20] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, the reason I'm thinking of getting an Ubuntu 19.10 live cd is to be offered this first option here: https://cdn.fosslinux.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/06234138/Reinstall-Ubuntu.jpg
[18:20] <EriC^^> i'd have my stuff backed up though anyways
[18:20] <amcsi> another concern of mine is that my home directory is encrypted with ecryptfs
[18:20] <amcsi> though I do have the passphrase
[18:21] <oerheks> interesting.. good luck!
[18:23] <blb4393> i've done do-release-upgrade -d yesterday to upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04. First I had to purge command-not-found package to start upgrade. Then at the end the script tried to purge sudo, apparmor, logrotate, rsyslog and some other packages
[18:25] <halvors1> The subiquity installer in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS when selecting btrfs as filesystem for root (/) doesn't put root filesystem on subvolume @ and home directory on @home. Is this intended?
[18:25] <tomreyn> !server | halvors1
[18:26] <blb4393> after reinstalling these packages everything seems to work only samba over gvfs won't mount
[18:27] <tomreyn> blb4393: are you seeking support with the unsupported upgrade path you chose to take?
[18:33] <blb4393> tomreyn: nah, I'm fine
[18:33] <amcsi> quadrathoch2, I found the stackoverflow (or rather, askubuntu) answer that says that it should be possible to reinstall Ubuntu keeping my /home even if it's not on a separate partition: https://askubuntu.com/a/270045
[18:33] <halvors> tomreyn: I know, but nobody around in the ubuntu-server channel.
[18:33] <RoseBus> hello, i install ktorrent from the software center but it's not launching when i try to open it
[18:35] <EriC^^> RoseBus: try to launch it from a terminal and look for any output
[18:36] <dwago> Hello all. I've been using this workaround for while now https://askubuntu.com/questions/906303/volume-control-on-asus-zenbook-3 only problem is when i update the system the file is overwritten. Is there a user config file i could put those settings in?
[18:43] <cgi> when upgrading from one ubuntu to another, apart from /home and /opt - anything else i need to move before wiping things out?
[18:43] <RoseBus> okay, from terminal i get error: `Qt_5.14' not found (required by ktorrent) when trying to launch ktorrent
[18:43] <RoseBus> so i tried installing qt5-default via apt and now i still get the same error
[18:43] <RoseBus> i dont know if that's the right thing to do, sorry i'm uneducated :(
[18:44] <oerheks> RoseBus, on what ubuntu is this?
[18:45] <RoseBus> 20.04
[18:47] <oerheks> installing a kde torrent app on gnome.. interesting, well you can, but why?
[18:48] <RoseBus> oh wow i didn't realize it came with a native torrent client
[18:48] <RoseBus> oerheks, i'm just looking for any damn client to work with!! haha
[18:48] <RoseBus> but when i click a magnet link in chromium i get a popup for allow xdg-open, i click allow, but `Transmission` never opens
[18:49] <oerheks> yeah, standard transmission is oke, maybe deluge is a better choise
[18:49] <oerheks> magnet links, save them first.
[18:49] <RoseBus> i tried to install deluge via software center, but could not open it after
[18:50] <RoseBus> the site i'm at (tpb) I dont even see a download link for the .torrent, weird
[18:50] <oerheks> an magnet links can be dangerous, no official torrent will use them.
[18:50] <oerheks> good luck!
[18:50] <RoseBus> ahh okay
[18:55] <RoseBus> uuuggh i need adobe illustrator for an assignment, but they dont support linux!  Playonlinux used to work with adobe creative cloud, but it no longer does, so i'm trying to get a previous version of adobe illustrator, but adobe doesn't provide older versions... i feel like i'm trying to steal software that i already have a license for!!
[18:55] <cgi> RoseBus, wine? vbox?
[18:56] <RoseBus> cgi, playonlinux uses wine, but adobecreative cloud doesn't work on it due to some internet explorer thing
[18:56] <oerheks> still piracy in this ubuntu support channel
[18:56] <RoseBus> you call it piracy, i call it legacy
[18:56] <oerheks> join #winehq with applicationhelp
[18:56] <RoseBus> okay
[19:00] <ioria> RoseBus, PB removed the torrents files for legal reason
[19:00] <RoseBus> ahh okay
[19:00] <RoseBus> i might just bite the bullet and boot up windows
[19:02] <ioria> RoseBus, for what ?
[19:03] <RoseBus> to use adobe creative software
[19:03] <ioria> RoseBus, inkscape ?
[19:03] <RoseBus> illustrator
[19:03] <ioria> RoseBus, i mean you can use  inkscape
[19:05] <RoseBus> hmm tempting... but since i'm graded on my ability to use illustrator i might need to run this by my professor first... but something tells me she wont like it considering day 1 she grossly misinterpreted the differences between storage & ram
[19:06] <RoseBus> she said something to the extent of saving files of larger size will make your computer slower
[19:07] <RoseBus> which i mean could be somewhat true if the file size is larger than RAM capacity but i dont think that's what she was thinking
[19:07] <oerheks> windows issues, interesting
[19:09] <Jordan_U> RoseBus: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=20 seems to show good support. Is that page out of date?
[19:09] <EriC^^> RoseBus: maybe she meant that if you save huge files, it has to get fragmented across multiple places and gets slower cause of that?
[19:10] <RoseBus> Jordan_U, yes
[19:10] <skookum> Hi all, can anyone give a hint as to how to get gdisk to recognize that there is additional space on the disk? I've used partprobe and it recognizes the space but gdisk doesn't detect any issues when verifying the disk?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> skookum: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[19:11] <RoseBus> Jordan_U, version 10 of illustrator is no longer available for download
[19:13] <skookum> Jordan_U: thank you! For whatever reason parted offered to fix the partition table and just like that gdisk now recognizes the full extents available. 😄
[19:20] <Jordan_U> skookum: You're welcome :)
[19:22] <ahmedamerican> I've asked that question and looking forward to hear from you guys. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231547/correct-place-to-put-git-repo
[19:22] <ahmedamerican> thanks in advance .
[19:34] <anotherandomguy> where can one locate the bug tracker for ubuntu 20.04?
[19:36] <M4hdi> hey
[19:37] <hggdh> anotherandomguy: there is specific bug tracker for 20.04. Bugs that affect 20.04 will usually have a tag of "focal", though
[19:37] <M4hdi> when will they fix that nasty hash sum mismatch problem?
[19:38] <hggdh> M4hdi: please be more specific. nasty hash sum mismatch where?
[19:38] <M4hdi> error with apt
[19:38] <M4hdi> when trying to do apt update
[19:38] <ioria> M4hdi, probably depends on your ISP
[19:39] <hggdh> M4hdi: if the files in the repositories in the mirror you are using are in the process of being updated, you can get it
[19:39] <M4hdi> I have switched the repos, official ones doesn't work, i'm using a repo from china i have found online
[19:39] <hggdh> M4hdi: most of the times waiting a few minutes will solve it
[19:39] <oerheks> paste the output of apt update, please
[19:39] <M4hdi> and i'm from iran
[19:39] <oerheks> ah oke
[19:40] <M4hdi> error is gone using that repo i said about, but so many other users had this problem you can google it, the probem with current repo is that it's a bit slow
[19:40] <M4hdi> ubuntu 20.04 is fine
[19:40] <oerheks> not all iran mirrors are up2date
[19:41] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ir.ubuntu.sindad.cloud-archive  this one is
[19:41] <oerheks> or petiak
[19:41] <M4hdi> i'm having it with 18.04.3
[19:41] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/archive.ubuntu.petiak.ir-archive
[19:41] <M4hdi> i tried archive.ubuntu.com too and others
[19:41] <M4hdi> same problem
[19:42] <M4hdi> i think only the older releases had this problem i hope they fix it
[19:43] <M4hdi> thanks for the reply btw
[19:43] <oerheks> run; sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo apt update # to refresh lists
[19:43] <EriC^^> M4hdi: many times it's also an ISP cache issue
[19:43] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[19:44] <oerheks> and 18.04.3, you are a releasepoint behind ??
[19:44] <EriC^^> if you could bypass your isp's cache it would probably work
[19:45] <EriC^^> say using an ssh tunnel/proxy for instance
[19:46] <M4hdi> @oerheks already did this doesn't work
[19:46] <M4hdi> yes it's 18.04.3 an older image i have downloaded
[19:46] <oerheks> those iran mirrors are normal to use.. one needs tor to get through?
[19:47] <M4hdi> no they are ok and fast (if you don't get this error)
[19:47] <M4hdi> on 20.04 for example, it's great
[19:47] <M4hdi> i also tried with openvpn
[19:47] <M4hdi> i think it's a bug on apt or maybe not im not sure
[19:48] <EriC^^> can you paste the error?
[19:48] <EriC^^> !paste | M4hdi
[19:49] <M4hdi> i have fixed it using this mirror generator : https://mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/repogen/
[19:49] <EriC^^> ok
[19:49] <M4hdi> but the servers are on the china and they are slow i also need to use openvpn to download speed under 1mbps
[19:50] <oerheks> well, make sure you run propper updates; sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[19:51] <oerheks> and have some tea
[19:51] <M4hdi> the problem is that when you had this error you can not do apt upgrade :)
[19:52] <EriC^^> M4hdi: why dont you use a different mirror then that's closer to you? the china one has nothing special about it
[19:52] <M4hdi> other mirrors gives me the hash sum mismatch error
[19:52] <EriC^^> M4hdi: did you try openvpn without the china server btw? just to understand the problem
[19:52] <M4hdi> yes i did, same problem
[19:53] <EriC^^> why are you using openvpn with china anyways?
[19:53] <M4hdi> it's because of the old release, but my point is that it shouldn't had this problem at all
[19:53] <M4hdi> without the vpn the speed goes under 10kbps xD
[19:54] <EriC^^> oh
[19:54] <M4hdi> i do download from ir.archive.ubuntu.com on 20.04 with 40mbps (it's all i can get on LTE in iran)
[19:54] <EriC^^> M4hdi: ok, what i'd suggest is, get the normal repos in, try to apt etc, put the errors somewhere in a pastebin and share here
[19:55] <M4hdi> ok man thanks
[19:55] <EriC^^> that way if it says something others can check from their connection to see if anything can be done or something
[19:55] <EriC^^> no problem
[19:55] <M4hdi> right <3
[20:21] <whitekidney> Anyone else experiencing an increased amount of microstutters and random slowness on 20.04 ?
[20:25] <Kristine86> whitekidney I was having GUI issues with Nvidia card. Since, it's been fixed, no more issues
[20:25] <whitekidney> I run an AMD RX 570
[20:25] <whitekidney> It's happening pretty much everywhere, but I notice it a lot when I browse (FF 75.0)
[20:26] <whitekidney> I have no demanding processes running (64gb ram, AMD 3900x) - the stutters happen every 5-15th second, Even when using IRC and typing I can see it lagging behind every now and then. It's incredibly frustrating
[20:26] <whitekidney> It was not like this in 19.10
[20:41] <oerheks> you could try ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers?field.series_filter=focal
[20:47] <Jordan_U> whitekidney: I've heard similar symptoms and haven't seen any helpful solutions yet. Can you try running "dmesg --human --follow" in a terminal and see if anything pops up when the stutters happen?
[20:48] <whitekidney> Jordan_U: Thanks for the suggestion, but I have already checked all related logs :(
[20:48] <whitekidney> I could try a newer GFX driver, but I doubt it would help
[20:48] <oerheks> and check for a bios update..
[20:49] <whitekidney> Uh, I don't see how a bios update would help things. The only difference between 19.10 and 20.04 is.. well.. the upgrade, no HW or other SW changes
[21:05] <SuperLag> I know you use apt builddep to install dependencies for $FOO. Is there any way to just get a list of what the deps are for a package?
[21:05] <nubonix91> hey so... im trying to use vncdotool (just a random python package/library w/e) and when i try to import it it says its not found, however, ive installed on the correct version of python (python3) using pip3 install vncdotool, and it shows its installed, but i cant import. I know this works using a virtualenv, however... Also, ive purged python3
[21:05] <nubonix91> and reinstalled, and still the problem persists
[21:14] <ChmEarl> SuperLag, dpkg-checkbuilddeps
[21:16] <nubonix91> any way to do... vncserver -geometry 815x640+105+64
[21:18] <SomeUnknownWumpu> Hi, I need brief upgrade support (19.10 -> 20.04). Upgrade went well until final steps, it was showing me a list of packages that would be uninstalled as "no longer needed", and there was one I'd have preferred to keep around. I misinterpreted the UI and thought I could select/deselect them individually (which would be a neat feature, btw) clicked
[21:18] <SomeUnknownWumpu> one, and clicked Keep.This actually, I realize, resulted in keeping the entire list of 230ish packages.The installation is now paused prior to reboot, and I'm wondering if there's any way to go back a step and let it delete it all? Or where I can locate the list of dead weight packages for manual deletion later. Thanks!
[21:22] <nightBulb> Not sure, but, I think # apt autremove    should remove un-needed packages.
[21:23] <SuperLag> ChmEarl: thank you
[21:23] <nightBulb> without #
[21:25] <SomeUnknownWumpu> Cool thanks nightBulb, I hoped the answer was something simple like that. :)  Cheers!
[21:25] <SomeUnknownWumpu> I'll manpage the syntax upon reboot.
[21:49] <howarth> Is the default 20.04 install supposed to enable the HWE kernels?
[21:50] <howarth> A 'dist-upgrade -d' didn't do that but a clean install installed the hwe meta packages for the linux kernel.
[21:53] <oerheks> HWE is an extention for newer kernels from upcomming releases, say 20.10/21.04 .. not available yet
[21:55] <matsaman> that is, it's a thing provided for older versions/installations, which 20.04 isn't
[21:55] <oerheks> 19.10 would give the 20.04 kernel and tools with HWE
[21:55] <oerheks> looking up current status
[21:56] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe
[21:56] <oerheks> nope, no 5.4 yet
[22:02] <philipp64> hi. I ran do-release-upgrade on 16.04 inside an X session on the console… it got to the point where it’s asking about removing packages, but the terminal has stopped accepting input… is there a workaround?  is this a known issue?
[22:03] <oerheks> how about waiting for the operation be done?
[22:03] <philipp64> it was stopped at a prompt asking yes/no/details
[22:09] <Goop> Wait, has Ubuntu 20.04 been released already?
[22:09] <Twemlow> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[22:09] <panf> window show 1
[22:10] <oerheks> Twemlow, is there a reason we should watch that?
[22:11] <Twemlow> is there really any reason to do anything these days?
[22:12] <oerheks> do not stop asking questions, i guess
[22:13] <Goop> Twemlow, where did you find such video?
[22:14] <Twemlow> i mean...
[22:14] <Goop> oerheks, okay.....??????????
[22:14] <Goop> s/where/how
[22:14] <Goop> Hmmm. This chat doesn't have a bot that replaces strings. :(
[22:14] <Goop> Twemlow, how did you find such video?
[22:15] <Twemlow> is that a serious question?
[22:16] <Twemlow> https://-------------->www.youtube.com<--------------/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[22:16] <JediMaster> Hi all, I use ubuntu all the time for server use, but really trying to get into Ubuntu desktop as it's been a few years since I last used it. I've got 20.04 installed easily enough, but I keep running into a brick wall with Ubuntu desktop and my second monitor on this machine.
[22:16] <Twemlow> whats the issue JediMaster?
[22:17] <JediMaster> lspci shows it as a "Intel Corporation HD Graphics 630 (rev 04)". On wind0ws I have dual monitors, 4k on HDMI @ 60Hz, and 4k on DisplayPort @ 60Hz, yet on Ubuntu it's always shows the HDMI as 30Hz on 4k, but detects the monitor, and the 4k DisplayPort monitor it shows as unknown and only at 1024x768, any ideas?
[22:18] <nightBulb> Which GPU ?
[22:18] <nightBulb> JediMaster
[22:18] <JediMaster> inbuilt, I think it's processor based
[22:19] <JediMaster> Intel HD 630
[22:20] <JediMaster> It manages dual 4k with the windows drivers without any problems, but not been able to find anything relevant on Google in relation to Linux
[22:20] <Sevenfold> Hi, I have a question and am wondering if anyone could help me. I am trying to upgrade to 20.04 via do-release-upgrade but I can't do it without the -d option, as if it was not oficially released yet.
[22:20] <Thete> hrrrmmmppfff gnome why did you have to break stuff :(
[22:20] <Sevenfold> I am reluctant in using the -d option because I am afraid I download the development version instead of the official one.
[22:20] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | Sevenfold
[22:21] <Sevenfold> ubottu: understood. Thank you very much for the help.
[22:21] <Sevenfold> lol
[22:22] <Sevenfold> Bashing-om: thanks :)
[22:22] <Bashing-om> Sevenfold: Small thing - glad to assist :D
[22:22] <JediMaster> nightBulb & Twemlow: I had the same issue with 18.04 too, I ended up never finding the solution, as it's a work machine couldn't really justify much more time trying to solve it
[22:23] <howarth> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1059479/dual-monitor-workspaces-in-ubuntu-18-04
[22:23] <panf> how are people finding 20.04? What things should I be looking for to try out that werent in the last LTS?
[22:24] <howarth> The only gripe I have is that 20.04 broke nomodeset on the GTX680 with Mac ROMs in a MacPro. Otherwise it is flawless.
[22:25] <nightBulb> JediMaster, https://www.intel.in/content/www/in/en/support/products/98909/graphics-drivers/graphics-for-7th-generation-intel-processors/intel-hd-graphics-630.html
[22:25] <JediMaster> xrandr seems to be missing the 60Hz modeline for the HDMI monitor, but works with 4k @ 30Hz (ugh!), and the modelines seem to be missing for anything above 1024x768 on the displayport
[22:26] <Sevenfold> i'd rather wait for July then, because i've had serious issues with my gfx in the past
[22:26] <Bashing-om> panf: One review: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/04/ubuntu-20-04-video .
[22:26] <JediMaster> ok, so the 30Hz refresh might be what's actually supported, still the displayport issue is the main problem
[22:26] <Sevenfold> i dont know if I messed anything up by downloading the driver from the nvidia site instead of the repo, but its not a big deal to wait
[22:27] <Intelo> Which hardware (oldest) can ubuntu desktop run on? I am going to buy a second hand cheap desktop and display (led) tomorrow. Any general suggestions? This will be a backup if my work laptop form programming breaks or it can be used by kids for study/some non-advance non-high demanding gaming. Which iXX seriess to buy? which ddrX version, which generation?
[22:28] <nightBulb> Intelo, Raspberry Pi 4 ?
[22:28] <Sevenfold> :)
[22:28] <nightBulb> :D
[22:28] <oerheks> Intelo, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[22:28] <Intelo> nightBulb, not a desktop.
[22:28] <Intelo> oerheks, "ubuntu supported hardware' is beyond this channel?
[22:29] <Bashing-om> Sevenfold: FYI - even Nvidia advises not to do the OEM thenk from them: "Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package.".
[22:29] <Sevenfold> Intelo: he is picking on you, although i think a rasp can do the job really well
[22:29] <Bashing-om> thing*
[22:30] <nightBulb> its a decent enough chip for non-gaming things ...
[22:30] <Sevenfold> Bashing-om: ow
[22:31] <Sevenfold> Bashing-om: awesome. I come from a Windows mindset (decided to man up and try linux, lol), so I am used to downloading things from the official website and installing it. Guess I'll have to rethink a lot
[22:31] <Intelo> Sevenfold, nightBulb so ubuntu latest desktop can run on even rasp?
[22:32] <Sevenfold> Intelo: have you done any research on the subject at all?
[22:32] <Sevenfold> like googling and stuff
[22:33] <Bashing-om> Sevenfold: I found: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_more_readings_for_the_package_management a great help im my departure from Windows.
[22:34] <Intelo> Sevenfold, don't want to google. It has a lot of opinions. Want to talk to real people
[22:34] <Sevenfold> Intelo: well, you will find a lot of opinions here too :)
[22:34] <Sevenfold> but anyway
[22:35] <RoadRunner> Problems setting up printing https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HYY3mwxwSK/
[22:36] <Intelo> Sevenfold,  hm :)
[22:36] <Sevenfold> RoadRunner: what does "systemctl status cups" say?
[22:37] <nightBulb> Intelo, 64 bit processor
[22:37] <Sevenfold> RoadRunner: maybe its worth reinstalling it via apt reinstall?
[22:37] <nightBulb> Ubuntu runs on wide variety of things ...
[22:38] <nightBulb> just keep in mind the processor be 64 bit
[22:38] <RoadRunner> Sevenfold: cups.service
[22:38] <RoadRunner>    Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[22:38] <RoadRunner>    Active: inactive (dead)
[22:38] <Intelo> so ubuntu latest desktop can not run on even rasp?
[22:39] <nightBulb> Intelo, https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi
[22:40] <Intelo> thanks
[22:40] <Sevenfold> Bashing-om: thanks for the help :)
[22:41] <Sevenfold> stay safe, everyone!
[22:41] <Sevenfold> cheers
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Sevenfold: WQe are all in this together - many still also help me :P
[22:41] <RoadRunner> Sevenfold: so any suggestions for printing?
[22:41] <Bashing-om> he ^ gone :(
[22:42] <RoadRunner> ehh
[22:43] <RoadRunner> if anyone else feels like jumping in with the printing issue - please! :)
[22:49] <tombert> howdy everyone, I think this is a pretty straightfoward question; I have a folder I want to share via NFS.  I tried editing my exports file (https://pastebin.com/pfNPCFMz), then ran exportfs, then did service nfs-kernel-server restart, but when I try mounting it locally with this command (sudo mount -t nfs -o nfsvers=3 jetson1:/tank mountstuff), I
[22:49] <tombert> get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting jetson1:/tank
[22:49] <tombert> I'm assuming I made a mistake in my exports file
[22:51] <nightBulb> RoadRunner, https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=in&lang=en&prod=hl2040_all&os=128
[22:54] <nightBulb> RoadRunner, https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hl2040_all&os=128
[22:54] <nightBulb> Download deb printer driver and follow instructions ...
[22:54] <nightBulb> ?
[22:55] <RoadRunner> nightBulb: I've actually been on this link before but
[22:55] <nightBulb> but ?
[22:55] <RoadRunner> will installing the driver
[22:55] <RoadRunner> solve my cups process issue?
[22:56] <nightBulb> cupswrapper
[22:57] <RoadRunner> will I need the install tool or just the cupswrapper?
[22:57] <nightBulb> I Have not tried it ...
[22:57] <nightBulb> Your choice ...
[22:57] <nightBulb> It is probably for convenience ..
[22:58] <JediMaster> For the first time in any version of Ubuntu, I've got my display port 4k monitor working at 4k @ 60Hz, turns out it just can't autodetect the modeline and needs it to be manually added
[22:59] <JediMaster> In 20.04 where can you specify manual modlines? I've had to add them via xrandr on the commandline manually for the moment, but I have dual 4k working on a machine with an Intel HD 630 chipset
[22:59] <JediMaster> *modelines
[22:59] <RoadRunner> InightBulb: l'll give it a go, but as far as you understand it, installing the driver will also jump start the cups service?
[23:00] <ahmedamerican> I've checked the documentation and i see that is recommend to install 3rd party library within `/opt/` , I've cloned a repo inside it. now if i try to update that repo, i got permission error. I've used the following to fix the issue but i don't know if that's consider safe or not `sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /opt/A`
[23:00] <RoadRunner> nightBulb: l'll give it a go, but as far as you understand it, installing the driver will also jump start the cups service?
[23:02] <nightBulb> RoadRunner, sudo apt install cups
[23:02] <nightBulb> ?
[23:03] <nightBulb> RoadRunner, Have you done that prior ?
[23:04] <tombert> Gonna ask again in case it got lost in the mix: howdy everyone, I think this is a pretty straightfoward question; I have a folder I want to share via NFS.  I tried editing my exports file (https://pastebin.com/pfNPCFMz), then ran exportfs, then did service nfs-kernel-server restart, but when I try mounting it locally with this command (sudo mount
[23:04] <tombert> -t nfs -o nfsvers=3 jetson1:/tank mountstuff), I get this error: mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting jetson1:/tank
[23:06] <v64> running mount with the -vvvv flag will give you some more info
[23:07] <RoadRunner> nightBulb: sorry back in 15 min
[23:21] <tombert> v64: I tried this: https://pastebin.com/YVpVNsWF
[23:26] <RoadRunner> nightBulb: I am back; regarding installing cups - no I haven't done that prior because Synaptic told me I already had a least some cups components. After trying to instal cups now, am told that foomatic-filters will be removed - is that a problem?
[23:26] <Guest_27> hi i have a question for anyone, does anyone know why xrandr displays 60Hz for a primary, but in settings > display there's a higher refresh rate?
[23:27] <nightBulb> RoadRunner, don't know. But I think it shouldn't be a problem.
[23:28] <nightBulb> When you replace it with CUPS
[23:28] <RoadRunner> k, doing it now
[23:29] <nightBulb> 🤞
[23:30] <nightBulb> <emoji for good luck>
[23:33] <v64> tombert: nothing unusual there, would maybe try `showmount -e servername` to make sure the export is showing up as expected
[23:34] <tombert> tombert@tombertubutu:~$ showmount -e jetson1Export list for jetson1:/tank *
[23:34] <tombert> Export list for jetson1:/tank *
[23:35] <tombert> which looks ok to me
[23:35] <tombert> v64 ^
[23:35] <v64> yeah that looks correct
[23:35] <tombert> just to prove it wasn't a permissions thing, I chmod'd the shared folder to 777
[23:36] <tombert> and chown'd it to nobdoy
[23:36] <v64> don't have any specific advice at this point, doesn't sound like anything exotic though, would just confirm the right services are running on both client and server, check permissions and users/groups, make sure network connectivity is okay
[23:36] <tombert> nobody
[23:36] <tombert> network connectivity is definitely ok, what kind of services would I be looking for?
[23:36] <v64> googling around I found this but I can't vouch for it, I haven't dug much into nfs issues: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/79172/nfs-permission-denied
[23:37] <v64> is old too so names may not be the same
[23:48] <tombert> to those concerned, figured it out, needed to add an fsid=0 to the exports file
[23:52] <RoadRunner> nightBulb: Unfortunately, could see the emoji but thanks for the good luck wish. Cups installed successfully, is now loaded and active; after trying to print get: 'Failed to print document. The selected printer 'default' could not be found.' I guess now it's just installing the driver.
[23:53] <RoadRunner> *couldn't
[23:53] <nightBulb> RoadRunner, Yes, follow the instructions on brother printer website next.
[23:53] <nightBulb> download deb ...