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[00:42] <breakpoint> hello
[00:43] <breakpoint> whats up
[12:26] <qswz> Can someone explain me how it's possible that debian lxqt is 2.2G https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ while lubuntu lxqt is 1.6G http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/focal/release/
[17:54] <lubot> <rudrabali> 🤔
[18:54] <Kamilion> qswz: debian ISOs usually contain a lot more packages unrelated to the desktop environment choice.
[18:55] <Kamilion> Also, my ISO is only 1.3G after removing libreoffice.
[18:56] <Kamilion> if you're curious how it breaks down, look at the /pool/ folder on both isos. Lubuntu's will be almost empty, while debian's will be the bulk of the ISO contents.
[19:00] <qswz> Kamilion: ah thanks for the answer, ok
[19:00] <Kamilion> Sure.
[19:01] <Kamilion> it's more to do with how the casper live scripts work
[19:01] <Kamilion> we ship a rather large squashfs that we unpack over the installation root; and then do a little bit of package removal
[19:02] <Kamilion> while debianinstaller tends to prefer unpacking individual packages into an installation root.
[19:02] <qswz> ah so lubuntu iso is a biy compressed too
[19:02] <qswz> bit*
[19:02] <Kamilion> as a result, we don't keep a large package pool on the iso itself
[19:03] <Kamilion> only like ~40MBish right now, stuff like grub-efi and a couple others
[19:03] <qswz> I see ok
[19:03] <Kamilion> not just a bit compressed
[19:03] <Kamilion> a LOT compressed. ~4.8GB -> 1.5GB squashfs
[19:04] <qswz> debian iso is also compressed, but less efficiently if I understand you
[19:04] <Kamilion> different method
[19:04] <qswz> yea
[19:04] <Kamilion> they're mostly .xz compressed .deb files
[19:04] <Kamilion> squashfs can do 'deduplication' to some degree.
[19:05] <Kamilion> "hey, there's three copies of this file called initramfs; I'm just going to make them all point to the same clusters."
[19:06] <Kamilion> plus the patches to mkisofs that will do the same thing (link identical files to the same clusters_
[19:12] <qswz> yea, and thanks to all guys working on lxqt/lubuntu, great stuff
[19:33] <lubot> <tbs61> @qswz [<qswz> yea, and thanks to all guys working on lxqt/lubuntu, great stuff], +1
[19:33] <hex_> Hello
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[19:47] <qswz> yw :)
[20:18] <akem> I got the system frozen few times on my other machine, mouse frozen not responding, keyboard the same, what can i look for after reboot?
[20:19] <akem> I think this started after last update. :X
[22:31] <M--uismojvkinbis> Does tiling work in Lunbuntu? I never got it to work in 19.10 now on 20.04 and same
[22:31] <M--uismojvkinbis> Lubuntu*
[22:32] <wxl> use a tiling window manager and it works great
[23:07] <M--uismojvkinbis> I figure I could do that. Wasn't sure if it was implemented at all
[23:08] <M--uismojvkinbis> in the base image
[23:11] <wxl> nope
[23:11] <wxl> openbox is not a tiling window manager