[03:36] <callmepk> Morning
[06:04] <tangarora> 20.04 seems buggy with NVidia. I cant put my finger on it, but I had to reinstall eventually after setting the NV to be on demand in the control center... It worked great for a while, the screen artifacts, the blangk... 
[06:26] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Monday!
[06:32] <didrocks> good morning
[06:33] <callmepk> good morning oSoMoN didrocks 
[06:36] <didrocks> hey callmepk 
[06:36] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk, salut didrocks 
[06:49] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, bon week-end ?
[06:49] <oSoMoN> oui, et toi?
[06:50] <didrocks> ça va, mais ça commence à devenir longuet pour être honnête :)
[06:53] <oSoMoN> oui, faudrait pas que ça s’éternise…
[06:55] <jibel> hi world
[06:58] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[07:01] <jibel> Salut didrocks, tu vas bien?
[07:02] <didrocks> jibel: ça va, vivement qu’on puisse se projeter dans quelques semaines, mais ça va :) et toi ?
[07:03] <jibel> didrocks, il commence à y avoir des ornières dans le carrelage à force de tourner en rond.
[07:03] <jibel> mais sinon ça peut aller
[07:04] <didrocks> fais gaffe à ne pas passer au tavers du plancher
[07:04] <jibel> :)
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[07:05] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[07:06] <jibel> bonjour oSoMoN 
[07:11] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk oSoMoN didrocks jibel
[07:16] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson 
[07:28] <oSoMoN> good morning marcustomlinson 
[07:56] <seb128> lut didrocks, oSoMoN, jibel, vous avez passé un bon w.e?
[07:57] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, how are you?
[07:57] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[07:57] <jibel> Salut seb128, le w-e est passé, en attendant le prochain
[08:02] <Laney> moin
[08:02] <marcustomlinson> hey seb128 and Laney
[08:03] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing ok for a Monday :P you?
[08:03] <oSoMoN> hey Laney 
[08:06] <Laney> hey marcustomlinson & oSoMoN 
[08:11] <didrocks> hey Laney 
[08:30] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:30] <seb128> I'm good :)
[08:35] <Laney> moin didrocks & seb128 
[08:51] <ricotz> good morning desktopers
[08:54] <marcustomlinson> hey ricq
[08:54] <marcustomlinson> whoops
[08:54] <marcustomlinson> hey ricotz
[09:04] <cpaelzer> hi Desktop people
[09:04] <cpaelzer> I'd need your guidance on a discussion about appindicator / ayatana
[09:04] <cpaelzer> for years we have had our virt-manager recommend gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1
[09:05] <cpaelzer> but now I was made aware that this is more or less dead https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=895037
[09:05] <ubot5> Debian bug 895037 in src:libappindicator "libappindicator: deprecated in Debian; AppIndicator based applications, please switch to Ayatana (App)Indicator(s)" [Serious,Open]
[09:05] <cpaelzer> gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1 is still in main in focal, so I guess I'm fine for now
[09:05] <cpaelzer> but should - going forward I switch to ayatana - is that fully integrated and default in our desktop?
[09:05] <seb128> hey ricotz cpaelzer
[09:05] <cpaelzer> seb128: didrocks: (not sure who to ping, so I ping the most active people I know around here) ^^
[09:06] <seb128> cpaelzer, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libayatana-appindicator/+bug/1770146
[09:06] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1770146 in libayatana-appindicator (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libayatana-appindicator" [High,Invalid]
[09:07] <didrocks> yeah, long story there :)
[09:07] <didrocks> (and hey cpaelzer, ricotz)
[09:08] <seb128> cpaelzer, the ayatana packages are semi-hostile forks that were not needed and which were made incompatible with no real need to be, we have no seen evidence they are better quality or worth the effort to switch at this point
[09:10] <cpaelzer> seb128: ok, so for now I can answer (on a debian discussion) that for now we will stick to  gir1.2-appindicator3-0.1 then?
[09:10] <seb128> for Ubuntu yes, the people doing indicator in Debian seem to have decided they favor the ayatana variants
[09:10] <seb128> (but that's a side effort in Debian and most lead by the guy who forked/created ayatana)
[09:10] <ackk> oSoMoN, hi, do you know if bluejeans is supposed to work with chromium (snap)?
[09:11] <ackk> I could never get it to work, while it seems to be working with chrome
[09:12] <cpaelzer> ok seb128 that is fine, thank you a lot
[09:12] <oSoMoN> ackk, it works for me as an attendee, not sure about using bluejeans to present though
[09:12] <ackk> oSoMoN, oh, I never could use it even as attendee
[09:13] <ackk> oSoMoN, always tells me I have to install flash
[09:13] <ackk> oSoMoN, do you have flash installed?
[09:14] <ackk> (can believe I'm saying this in 2020)
[09:14] <ackk> *can't
[09:14] <oSoMoN> yeah, flash will be dead and gone by the end of the year, finally… in the meantime, you can use this to get it working in the snap: https://git.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/+git/snappy-packaging/commit/?id=04e7a9c9d452437b8540dc50e6d87092f3ea4af2
[09:15] <seb128> cpaelzer, np!
[09:16] <ackk> oSoMoN, oh I see, so bluejeans does still require flash with chrome/ium
[09:16] <Laney> /o\
[09:16] <ackk> oSoMoN, oddly the html5 video test they have on their website does work fine with chrommium
[09:24] <ackk> oSoMoN, worked now with flash, thanks
[10:32] <GunnarHj> Good morning (well..) seb128! Did you see my ping from this upstream IBus issue?
[10:32] <GunnarHj> https://github.com/ibus/ibus/issues/2163
[10:32] <GunnarHj> Your input as regards what to do in Ubuntu going forward would be appreciated.
[10:32] <gitbot> ibus issue 2163 in ibus "Remapping CTRL+SHIFT+U doesn't unbind original keybind" [Closed]
[10:35] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, I saw the email but post W.E/release backlog is busy, I will try to have a comment later
[10:36] <GunnarHj> seb128: Sure, no urgency AFAICT.
[13:01] <seb128> tseliot, hey, could you add bug #1874567 to your backlog of bugs to look at? it seems quite popular
[13:01] <ubot5> bug 1874567 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (Ubuntu) "Secondary (rotated) monitor configuration is not applied correctly in gnome settings" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874567
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[14:20] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[14:21] <marcustomlinson> morning hellsworth
[14:21] <hellsworth> hey marcustomlinson 
[14:27] <didrocks> hello hellsworth 
[14:28] <hellsworth> hey there didrocks 
[14:51] <jibel> xnox, from a syslog, do you know how to know if a machine has been booted in UEFI or Legacy?
[14:57] <ogra> hey ... after doing a 16.04->18.04 upgrade, immediately followed by an 18.04->20.04 one ,i end up with a pretty messed up desktop https://imgur.com/a/z8jDqUB ... there are also font issues (violet blocks across characters) ... and things like alt-tab do not work at all
[14:57] <ogra> i assume it is some setting in my homedir ... any idea what i could try to remove there ?
[14:58] <ogra> seems drag and drop also doesnt work
[14:58] <ogra> ... at least from/to desktop
[15:00] <ogra> sigh and i'm bombed with online-account popups to an extend that working is impossible 
[15:00] <ogra> (yet the online accounts are properly set up, i even deleted them and added them anew)
[15:02] <xnox> jibel:  in sessions, not now
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[15:03] <xnox|sessions> jibel:  grep for "efivars" ? Apr 27 12:58:27 ottawa kernel: Registered efivars operations
[15:06] <seb128> ogra, can you share your journalctl log? the image looks like a kernel/video driver issue ... could you screenshot the online account prompt?
[15:07] <ogra> seb128, note that i have been running from USB key for a week now ... the fresh install on the USB key doesnt expose any such issues ... it is only the upgraded internal install that does ... i'll push my jounral somewhere ... 
[15:08] <ogra> the popup prompt looks like an evolution one (but seems to pop up when the panel clock tries to sync even if evo was never started after a reboot)
[15:09] <ogra> here is my journal https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fJwsRCT2yg/
[15:10] <ogra> err
[15:10]  * ogra sees the kernel cmdline in there and wonders where all these i915 options come from !
[15:10] <ogra> i guess thats the issue :D
[15:10] <ogra> lol, sorry
[15:11] <seb128> ogra, likely for the video corruption yes ... old local hacked parameters to workaround issues?
[15:11] <ogra> yeah ... 16.04 crap
[15:12] <seb128> ogra, the journal also suggests you have buggy extensions
[15:13] <seb128> Apr 27 16:52:52 acheron gnome-shell[5128]: Usage of object.actor is deprecated for CalendarMessageList
[15:13] <seb128>                                            get@resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/environment.js:287:29
[15:13] <seb128>                                            right@/home/ogra/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/notification-banner-position@Selenium-H/extension.js:24:2
[15:13] <ogra> yes, one of them (i think the one remvoving the meters of padding between the systray icons) 
[15:13] <seb128> well unsure if they are problematic for your notifications, but might be worth turning them off
[15:13] <ogra> oh, the positional one ... yeah
[15:14] <ogra> well, it works despite the error, i have seen it on the usb install too 
[15:14] <ogra> didnt seem to have any ill effects apart from spamming the log
[15:14]  * ogra reboots with fixed grub
[15:19] <ogra> hrm .. editing /etc/default/grub and running update-grub doesnt seem to have any effect :/
[15:19] <ogra> the options still stick in there 
[15:26] <ogra> hmm, okay ... options gone but still messed up wallpaper
[15:35] <Laney> seb128: do you know if there's an action to mir libinih recorded somewhere?
[15:39] <ogra> okay ... recursively unsetting all gsettings got me rolling 
[21:08] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 3badf8b Olivier Tilloy debian/ changelog patches/series patches/0032-online-accounts-maybe-leak-a-reference-to-the-panel.patch * https://deb.li/bHr2
[21:08] <KGB-0> debian/patches/0032-online-accounts-maybe-leak-a-reference-to-the-panel.patch: maybe leak a reference to the panel, to prevent a crash (LP: #1862553)
[21:08] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862553
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