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| km0201 | just downloaded xubuntu 20.04. Very impressed w/ it's speed. I last used xubuntu.. probably 15.something... It was quite sluggish and I ended up switching to straight Debian. | 03:47 |
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| km0201 | due to probs with my laptop video device on Debian.. Decided to check out Xubuntu again... Not only is the video problem solved, it is lightning fast. | 03:48 |
| km0201 | well done. | 03:48 |
| wigfranz | Hi everyone... I'm from Indonesia and I've been using Xubuntu since 19.04. I have a question and I hope I'll get the answer here. How can I use my USB stick (read & write) after burning an ISO using dd command into it? Because it will formatted to ISO9660 so every bytes remaining can't be used anymore. I mean I have a 8-GB USB and my ISO is just | 03:48 |
| wigfranz | 1.7 GB, and I want to be able to use the 6.3 GB remaining, just like when I burn ISO using Rufus. How can I do it? Thanks for the answer. | 03:48 |
| km0201 | Use Rufus? It's an installer, so (as far as I know) they all take the whole disk no matter the size. Not really designed to leave part of it open for data. | 04:12 |
| km0201 | you'd probably have to partition partition the usb, would be my guess though | 04:12 |
| well_laid_lawn | if the usb stick is being used for a live cd you have to write to the device not a partition so it can't be used for anything else unless you wipe it clean | 04:15 |
| km0201 | well_laid_lawn, that's what i was thinking | 04:25 |
| xu-irc59w | how do I access my disks? running xubuntu 18.04 LTS | 06:27 |
| well_laid_lawn | xu-irc59w: you should see them in thunar | 06:32 |
| xu-irc19w | morning everybody | 07:20 |
| xu-irc19w | i have a question.... | 07:20 |
| xu-irc19w | in the software update is not showing the new xubuntu version 20 for update? | 07:21 |
| xu-irc19w | any idea? | 07:21 |
| xu-irc19w | i have 18 | 07:22 |
| xu-irc19w | lts | 07:23 |
| gnrp | xu-irc19w: It will take a while until old LTS versions are proposed to upgrade | 07:24 |
| xu-irc19w | ok will wait....thank u...wanna upgrade...not reinstall.... | 07:25 |
| gnrp | xu-irc19w: You can already do it, but n ot the comfortable way | 07:28 |
| xu-irc19w | yea don't want.... | 07:28 |
| xu-irc19w | wanna keep everything.... | 07:29 |
| xu-irc19w | ok will wait....any idea when? | 07:29 |
| gnrp | xu-irc19w: Here it says late July https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-to-20-04-lts-focal-fossa#h3-1-1-upgrading-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts | 07:32 |
| gnrp | I don't know if there's an official time frame for that. For 18.04 it was also one or two months or so, I think | 07:33 |
| gnrp | but btw, the new desktop background in 20.04 is not as nice as the previous ones. Wouldn't upgrade. | 07:34 |
| xu-irc19w | thank u for the info | 07:41 |
| xu-irc19w | very useful....trying.... | 07:42 |
| e3k | hi Brainwash. the "no keyboard in login screen" after screenlock seems to be fixed after removing the xscreensaver package. tested on 2 machines with ubuntu. the question remains why was xscreensaver pulled (i certainly did not install it explicitelly) | 08:33 |
| brainwash | e3k: maybe the logs in /var/log/apt could tell | 08:35 |
| brainwash | unless it was installed long long ago | 08:35 |
| e3k | give me a sec | 08:35 |
| e3k | brainwash: nothing in the logs anymore and i can not reproduce it now but here: https://itsfoss.com/install-xfce-desktop-xubuntu/ it seems that the package xfce4 pulls it. | 08:43 |
| brainwash | okay | 08:48 |
| e3k | which is probably not what we want | 08:54 |
| e3k | shoul i open a bug? | 08:54 |
| brainwash | xfce4-session used to install xscreensaver OR light-locker as recommended package | 09:00 |
| brainwash | Xubuntu pulled in light-locker so that dependency was satisfied | 09:01 |
| brainwash | in 20.04 the order changed to: xfce4-screensave OR light-locker OR xscreensaver | 09:02 |
| itpenguin | Is here anyone, who knows, where to download Xubuntu 14.04.1? | 09:03 |
| e3k | yes the issue was found in 18.04 and 19.something | 09:03 |
| e3k | so you think this is no more an inssue in 20.04? | 09:03 |
| e3k | when i try to run apt-get install xfce4 now the package xscreensaver does not show up (did not try to purge whole xfce4 though) | 09:04 |
| brainwash | the core issue is still present: multiple screen lockers can be installed at the same time, run at the same time, lock the screen at the same time | 09:05 |
| brainwash | the user may want to install several, so making the installation of screen lockers exclusive does not work I think | 09:07 |
| rud0lf | i've found a bug in xfce4-notifyd / systemd but i'm too lazy to report it on bugzilla | 09:07 |
| brainwash | it's something that has not been reported yet? | 09:08 |
| brainwash | hopefully you aren't too lazy to do that research :) | 09:08 |
| rud0lf | when some program invokes notify-send at startup, before full login, it fails to run and takes some time after login to restart | 09:08 |
| rud0lf | i was looking for it and it's not | 09:09 |
| brainwash | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16746 | 09:10 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 16746 in general "xfce4-notifyd does not start if a notification is created very early" [Normal,New] | 09:10 |
| brainwash | right | 09:10 |
| rud0lf | oh | 09:10 |
| rud0lf | darn | 09:10 |
| brainwash | :D | 09:10 |
| brainwash | itpenguin: maybe it's archived somewhere | 09:10 |
| rud0lf | "xfce4-notifyd works fine when I log in after rebooting" "mine" doesn't work after rebooting | 09:11 |
| brainwash | why does some program send a notification before Xfce is started? | 09:13 |
| rud0lf | because it's coded by unexperienced coder, it's NordVPN daemon | 09:13 |
| brainwash | that daemon is a systemd user service? | 09:13 |
| rud0lf | yes | 09:15 |
| brainwash | itpenguin: you get some working download servers when you google for it | 09:15 |
| rud0lf | no wait | 09:15 |
| rud0lf | no it's not user | 09:15 |
| brainwash | I wonder how that works exactly | 09:16 |
| e3k | brainwash: i do not see that as a problem. the issue was that ubuntu did install multiple screensavers which caused the problem. if a user chooses to install multiple screenlockers then it is their problem. | 09:19 |
| brainwash | e3k: but not by default. Xubuntu only installs one screen locker. | 09:21 |
| e3k | i did not install xubuntu. on 1 system there was default ubuntu and i installed xfce4. on the other system i installed ubuntu-minimal and then installed again xfce4 | 09:22 |
| brainwash | upgrading may install a second one (new default), but it should be mentioned in the release notes that this step is done | 09:23 |
| brainwash | I guess being modular like Xfce is can be problematic sometimes | 09:26 |
| Conna | Hello all | 10:12 |
| annoyeduser | Hello? | 11:20 |
| annoyeduser | Okay, I'm using a laptop with an HDMI connection to an external monitor. | 11:20 |
| annoyeduser | I ran the live mode of Xubuntu 20.04 and 19.10. | 11:21 |
| annoyeduser | For the love of God, I can't figure a way out to properly switch to my monitor as a sole display | 11:21 |
| tolja | annoyeduser: try super+p | 11:22 |
| annoyeduser | Tried, | 11:22 |
| annoyeduser | but there's another gotcha. | 11:22 |
| annoyeduser | When I successfully switch to my monitor, boom. | 11:23 |
| annoyeduser | Everything stops working. | 11:23 |
| annoyeduser | The screen becomes frozen, but I can still only move the mouse. | 11:23 |
| annoyeduser | Keyboard, mouse actions , buttons, everything unresponsive. | 11:23 |
| annoyeduser | I've also tried switching the layout with ARandR and xrandr from the terminal. | 11:24 |
| annoyeduser | But absolutely nothing works. | 11:24 |
| annoyeduser | On the flipside, Pop OS seems to work phenomenally. | 11:24 |
| annoyeduser | Strangely. | 11:24 |
| annoyeduser | tolja | 11:25 |
| annoyeduser | I've posted this question on Reddit like 5-6 times and on askubuntu twice, but absolutely no one is responding. | 11:25 |
| annoyeduser | Does anyone, absolutely anyone know the solution? | 11:26 |
| tolja | sorry, can't really help any further | 11:26 |
| annoyeduser | Do you have any idea? Some faint idea? | 11:26 |
| tolja | I'd start with gpu drivers | 11:27 |
| annoyeduser | But I'm using a live mode. | 11:27 |
| annoyeduser | There is absolutely no effect by switching from the free to the proprietary nvidia drivers/ | 11:28 |
| annoyeduser | hello? | 11:29 |
| annoyeduser | does anyone have any idea? | 11:30 |
| annoyeduser | This is driving me nuts. | 11:30 |
| annoyeduser | There's one other user who has the same issue. I found a post on Reddit. | 11:30 |
| annoyeduser | This is definitely not an isolated issue. | 11:31 |
| brainwash | I would test with another distribution that uses Xfce or offers a spin with Xfce | 11:32 |
| annoyeduser | Yup. | 11:32 |
| annoyeduser | Tried MX Linux, Linux Mint, Manjaro. | 11:32 |
| annoyeduser | Xubuntu was the only one that even recognized the monitor. | 11:32 |
| annoyeduser | Also tried Elementary - which did recognize the monitor. | 11:32 |
| annoyeduser | but had the same issue. | 11:33 |
| brainwash | ohh | 11:33 |
| annoyeduser | So is this a driver issue? | 11:33 |
| annoyeduser | Oh, and Kubuntu as well. | 11:33 |
| annoyeduser | The same problem as XFCE. | 11:34 |
| brainwash | then it's something beyond the scope of Xubuntu/Xfce | 11:34 |
| brainwash | driver? maybe | 11:35 |
| annoyeduser | But surely leaving it is not a solution? | 11:35 |
| brainwash | you could check the logs for hints | 11:36 |
| brainwash | ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.xsession-errors.old (previous session) | 11:36 |
| brainwash | and also journalctl | 11:36 |
| brainwash | for system logs | 11:36 |
| annoyeduser | So what will this give me? | 11:37 |
| brainwash | and /var/log/xorg | 11:37 |
| brainwash | it will give you various log messages | 11:37 |
| annoyeduser | okay.. | 11:37 |
| brainwash | and one or two may be related to your problem | 11:37 |
| brainwash | a hint | 11:37 |
| brainwash | something to get started | 11:37 |
| annoyeduser | waiting... | 11:40 |
| annoyeduser | ?? | 11:41 |
| annoyeduser | can you explain further? | 11:41 |
| annoyeduser | I'm a noob, so that'll probably not make sens to me. | 11:41 |
| brainwash | a log message (error or warning) can be helpful when you try to debug a problem | 11:42 |
| brainwash | if you find one that is related to your problem, then you can use it to search the web | 11:42 |
| annoyeduser | yes, but can you give me the actual commands | 11:42 |
| brainwash | for existing reports, or when you create a new one | 11:43 |
| brainwash | mousepad ~/.xsession-errors | 11:43 |
| brainwash | mousepad ~/.xsession-errors.old | 11:43 |
| brainwash | journalctl -b0 | 11:43 |
| annoyeduser | This issue is there in 19.10 as well. | 11:46 |
| annoyeduser | Why hasn't it been fixed? | 11:46 |
| annoyeduser | Is there any way to contact the devs? | 11:47 |
| brainwash | usually, a bug report is required so that the developers can look into an issue | 11:49 |
| brainwash | can you link the bug report for this particular issue? | 11:49 |
| annoyeduser | I haven't written one. | 11:50 |
| annoyeduser | I was using it in a live mode. | 11:50 |
| brainwash | yet you expect that it's magically fixed in a later release | 11:50 |
| annoyeduser | Okay, but how do I report it? | 11:51 |
| brainwash | this appears to a bit tricky | 11:51 |
| brainwash | ideally, one should report it against the correct component | 11:52 |
| brainwash | that is why I suggest to check the logs for any hints | 11:52 |
| annoyeduser | I need to boot back into the usb for that. | 11:52 |
| annoyeduser | it'll take time. | 11:53 |
| annoyeduser | What do I after that? | 11:53 |
| brainwash | with no hints, maybe file the report against Xorg or the graphics driver | 11:53 |
| annoyeduser | how? | 11:53 |
| brainwash | !bugs | 11:53 |
| ubottu | If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 11:53 |
| xu-help39w | Hi, I recently installed xubuntu in Dell inspiron. Somehow the enable wifi option is not showing in the network manager. Please help. | 12:57 |
| diogenes_ | xu-help39w, look in driver manager? | 13:02 |
| xu-help39w | yes, I installed "firmware-b43-installer" but still it didn't work. | 13:07 |
| xu-help39w | Can anyone please point me out the steps I need to follow. I have the latest version of Xubuntu. | 13:08 |
| diogenes_ | xu-help39w, in terminal: sudo rfkill list | 13:11 |
| diogenes_ | !pastebin | 13:11 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 13:11 |
| xu-help39w | then? | 13:11 |
| diogenes_ | then pastebin and share the link. | 13:12 |
| xu-help39w | ok | 13:13 |
| turbokitty | I was just wondering how i can install this driver, not sure what it is beccause it doesnt say https://i.imgur.com/7g2Xuuc.png | 13:43 |
| turbokitty | i thought it may be my intergrated video, there is some slowness for certain things | 13:44 |
| sorinello | Unit193, xubuntu-core 20.04 still crashes when installing to VmWare. I have a screenshot, but I would be happily to assist you in order to obtain more information | 14:15 |
| sorinello | Unit193, https://ibb.co/7vJTFWJ | 14:17 |
| wr | how can i set the keyboard on xubuntu? | 14:59 |
| wr | sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ? | 15:03 |
| xu-irc56w | how do i upgrade to 20.04 from 19.10 ? | 16:22 |
| gnrp | xu-irc56w: Search your menu for "update", then youw ill find the update manager | 16:26 |
| gnrp | there you can do it | 16:26 |
| gnrp | ah, no, sorry | 16:26 |
| gnrp | Graphical upgrades will still take a while until they arrive. Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong | 16:26 |
| xu-irc56w | how do i do it via cli ? | 16:27 |
| xu-irc56w | and is there any way to get back user interface defaults ? | 16:28 |
| xu-irc56w | *to get back to | 16:28 |
| gnrp | xu-irc56w: I don't know what you mean with user interface defaults | 16:29 |
| gnrp | there is a way, but if you don't know how to do it, I would strongly recommend you not to do it. (if you want to know: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt update & dist-upgrade) | 16:29 |
| xu-irc56w | i changed the theme and main panel etc.. | 16:30 |
| xu-irc56w | i just want the defaults | 16:30 |
| xu-irc56w | update-manager -d | 16:33 |
| Noboru55 | diogenes_ hey i'm running xubuntu 20.04 it's great, better than 19.04 | 17:19 |
| Noboru55 | only problem is the winehq i added the eon repository, and sometimes after close the ms word when i reboot get the initramfs screen to run fsck but tis ok no problem here | 17:19 |
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| xu-irc98w | hello, can anybody give me a quick rundown on what i have to do to install lutris properly? It says i need wine for it, too, which i have no idea how to properly get, since the apt-get command doesnt find it. | 17:56 |
| diogenes_ | xu-irc98w, sudo apt install wine | 17:57 |
| xu-irc98w | "unable to locate package wine" | 17:58 |
| xu-irc98w | i get that with apt-get install and apt install, also with lutris | 17:58 |
| diogenes_ | xu-irc98w, run: apt search wine | 18:02 |
| xu-irc98w | ah i needed to use apt update and apt upgrade for some reason now it works | 18:03 |
| xu-irc98w | is it enough to install wine and then lutris or do i need more? | 18:03 |
| diogenes_ | i think lutris will install everything. | 18:04 |
| PkuLNX | wine have 2 version, wine-stable & wine-development | 18:04 |
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| xu-irc98w | on the lutris site it says i should install wine too | 18:06 |
| xu-irc98w | just running apt install wine gets the stable version, right? | 18:07 |
| Darko | apt install wine-stable | 18:08 |
| xu-irc98w | ok so it does find wine now, but i still cant find the package for lutris... is something broken in my system? | 18:08 |
| Darko | no, you dont have lutris repository | 18:09 |
| Darko | using this, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lutris-team/lutris ,and then get update and install lutris | 18:10 |
| xu-irc98w | alright ima try that. installing wine stable worked now too, thanks | 18:11 |
| xu-irc98w | perfect it works, thanks so much | 18:12 |
| xu-irc98w | anything else i need to get to run games properly or will lutris take care of that now? | 18:12 |
| Darko | good, maybe you can | 18:16 |
| Darko | cause, i have never played online games on Linux | 18:17 |
| xu-irc98w | im trying it now hopefully it works | 18:20 |
| xu-irc98w | just one more thing, when i type it sometimes opens up the command menu on the upper left, where u can close windows and such, is there a way to disable whatever command that is? | 18:20 |
| xu-irc98w | i looked through the keyboard shortcuts but couldnt find it, and its annoying af :D | 18:20 |
| xu-irc42w | hello im trying to install a game via lutris, but it semms to be stuck on "creating wine prefix" anything i can do? | 19:45 |
| xu-irc42w | updating wine prefix* | 19:46 |
| diogenes_ | xu-irc42w, why do you even need lutris? simply wine is more than enough. | 19:48 |
| xu-irc42w | im new to linux so i wanted to go the easy route | 19:49 |
| xu-irc42w | and i have no idea how toa ctually get wine to work | 19:50 |
| diogenes_ | xu-irc42w, and that's why we're here :) | 19:52 |
| xu-irc42w | haha yea. do u have a quick toturial? | 19:53 |
| xu-irc42w | im trying to get eso to run, since i want to avoid using steam for that | 19:53 |
| diogenes_ | i've never used lutris but with wine everything is as easy as double click on the game.exe. | 19:54 |
| brainwash | we are not here to help with wine or any of its frontends | 19:55 |
| brainwash | please ask in the correct channel | 19:56 |
| xu-irc42w | idk what the correct channel is or how to join it | 19:57 |
| brainwash | /join #winehq | 19:57 |
| brainwash | /join #lutris | 19:57 |
| xu-irc42w | i cant join that wine channel | 19:57 |
| brainwash | then it's probably for registered users only | 19:58 |
| diogenes_ | i help with what i can, xu-irc42w if you want you can /join ##MX-Linux and we can talk. | 19:58 |
| xu-irc57w | hello, i have a proble, my wine apps cant seem to connect to the internet. I tried everything but it just gives me errors | 21:35 |
| xu-irc57w | it gives me GoGetClassObjects errors | 21:35 |
| kgb | https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1692,00.html ;P;D | 21:37 |
| kgb | (if you'd given 'em beer 1st. :)) | 21:38 |
| xu-irc57w | man, very helpful | 21:40 |
| kgb | yea, sry! hopefully someone will know what's up. =) | 21:42 |
| xu-irc57w | ive been sitting here all day reinstalling stuff, and now im at a point where i cant even find the error code online | 21:42 |
| kgb | *don't use WINE, I loathe it - for how every.single.thing must be made compatible. :# | 21:43 |
| kgb | (and it's never up to date, with anything, meh) | 21:43 |
| xu-irc57w | im trying to install eso. Which works under linux. but steam doesnt let me install it even tho i bought it, because i have the non steam version. so i have to use wine | 21:43 |
| xu-irc57w | i can install the launcher fine, but it gives me all sorts of errors and is stuck on loading, which seems like it cant connect to the internet | 21:44 |
| Unit193 | sorinello: Hi. This appears to be the boot opion 'install only' rather than the live session, this tends to be a little more flaky. | 22:18 |
| Unit193 | ...A lot more. | 22:18 |
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