=== Celso is now known as celso_saiu === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === celso_saiu is now known as celso === Israphel is now known as Guest70533 === Israphel_ is now known as Israphel [03:47] just downloaded xubuntu 20.04. Very impressed w/ it's speed. I last used xubuntu.. probably 15.something... It was quite sluggish and I ended up switching to straight Debian. [03:48] due to probs with my laptop video device on Debian.. Decided to check out Xubuntu again... Not only is the video problem solved, it is lightning fast. [03:48] well done. [03:48] Hi everyone... I'm from Indonesia and I've been using Xubuntu since 19.04. I have a question and I hope I'll get the answer here. How can I use my USB stick (read & write) after burning an ISO using dd command into it? Because it will formatted to ISO9660 so every bytes remaining can't be used anymore. I mean I have a 8-GB USB and my ISO is just [03:48] 1.7 GB, and I want to be able to use the 6.3 GB remaining, just like when I burn ISO using Rufus. How can I do it? Thanks for the answer. [04:12] Use Rufus? It's an installer, so (as far as I know) they all take the whole disk no matter the size. Not really designed to leave part of it open for data. [04:12] you'd probably have to partition partition the usb, would be my guess though [04:15] if the usb stick is being used for a live cd you have to write to the device not a partition so it can't be used for anything else unless you wipe it clean [04:25] well_laid_lawn, that's what i was thinking [06:27] how do I access my disks? running xubuntu 18.04 LTS [06:32] xu-irc59w: you should see them in thunar [07:20] morning everybody [07:20] i have a question.... [07:21] in the software update is not showing the new xubuntu version 20 for update? [07:21] any idea? [07:22] i have 18 [07:23] lts [07:24] xu-irc19w: It will take a while until old LTS versions are proposed to upgrade [07:25] ok will wait....thank u...wanna upgrade...not reinstall.... [07:28] xu-irc19w: You can already do it, but n ot the comfortable way [07:28] yea don't want.... [07:29] wanna keep everything.... [07:29] ok will wait....any idea when? [07:32] xu-irc19w: Here it says late July https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-to-20-04-lts-focal-fossa#h3-1-1-upgrading-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts [07:33] I don't know if there's an official time frame for that. For 18.04 it was also one or two months or so, I think [07:34] but btw, the new desktop background in 20.04 is not as nice as the previous ones. Wouldn't upgrade. [07:41] thank u for the info [07:42] very useful....trying.... [08:33] hi Brainwash. the "no keyboard in login screen" after screenlock seems to be fixed after removing the xscreensaver package. tested on 2 machines with ubuntu. the question remains why was xscreensaver pulled (i certainly did not install it explicitelly) [08:35] e3k: maybe the logs in /var/log/apt could tell [08:35] unless it was installed long long ago [08:35] give me a sec [08:43] brainwash: nothing in the logs anymore and i can not reproduce it now but here: https://itsfoss.com/install-xfce-desktop-xubuntu/ it seems that the package xfce4 pulls it. [08:48] okay [08:54] which is probably not what we want [08:54] shoul i open a bug? [09:00] xfce4-session used to install xscreensaver OR light-locker as recommended package [09:01] Xubuntu pulled in light-locker so that dependency was satisfied [09:02] in 20.04 the order changed to: xfce4-screensave OR light-locker OR xscreensaver [09:03] Is here anyone, who knows, where to download Xubuntu 14.04.1? [09:03] yes the issue was found in 18.04 and 19.something [09:03] so you think this is no more an inssue in 20.04? [09:04] when i try to run apt-get install xfce4 now the package xscreensaver does not show up (did not try to purge whole xfce4 though) [09:05] the core issue is still present: multiple screen lockers can be installed at the same time, run at the same time, lock the screen at the same time [09:07] the user may want to install several, so making the installation of screen lockers exclusive does not work I think [09:07] i've found a bug in xfce4-notifyd / systemd but i'm too lazy to report it on bugzilla [09:08] it's something that has not been reported yet? [09:08] hopefully you aren't too lazy to do that research :) [09:08] when some program invokes notify-send at startup, before full login, it fails to run and takes some time after login to restart [09:09] i was looking for it and it's not [09:10] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16746 [09:10] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 16746 in general "xfce4-notifyd does not start if a notification is created very early" [Normal,New] [09:10] right [09:10] oh [09:10] darn [09:10] :D [09:10] itpenguin: maybe it's archived somewhere [09:11] "xfce4-notifyd works fine when I log in after rebooting" "mine" doesn't work after rebooting [09:13] why does some program send a notification before Xfce is started? [09:13] because it's coded by unexperienced coder, it's NordVPN daemon [09:13] that daemon is a systemd user service? [09:15] yes [09:15] itpenguin: you get some working download servers when you google for it [09:15] no wait [09:15] no it's not user [09:16] I wonder how that works exactly [09:19] brainwash: i do not see that as a problem. the issue was that ubuntu did install multiple screensavers which caused the problem. if a user chooses to install multiple screenlockers then it is their problem. [09:21] e3k: but not by default. Xubuntu only installs one screen locker. [09:22] i did not install xubuntu. on 1 system there was default ubuntu and i installed xfce4. on the other system i installed ubuntu-minimal and then installed again xfce4 [09:23] upgrading may install a second one (new default), but it should be mentioned in the release notes that this step is done [09:26] I guess being modular like Xfce is can be problematic sometimes [10:12] Hello all [11:20] Hello? [11:20] Okay, I'm using a laptop with an HDMI connection to an external monitor. [11:21] I ran the live mode of Xubuntu 20.04 and 19.10. [11:21] For the love of God, I can't figure a way out to properly switch to my monitor as a sole display [11:22] annoyeduser: try super+p [11:22] Tried, [11:22] but there's another gotcha. [11:23] When I successfully switch to my monitor, boom. [11:23] Everything stops working. [11:23] The screen becomes frozen, but I can still only move the mouse. [11:23] Keyboard, mouse actions , buttons, everything unresponsive. [11:24] I've also tried switching the layout with ARandR and xrandr from the terminal. [11:24] But absolutely nothing works. [11:24] On the flipside, Pop OS seems to work phenomenally. [11:24] Strangely. [11:25] tolja [11:25] I've posted this question on Reddit like 5-6 times and on askubuntu twice, but absolutely no one is responding. [11:26] Does anyone, absolutely anyone know the solution? [11:26] sorry, can't really help any further [11:26] Do you have any idea? Some faint idea? [11:27] I'd start with gpu drivers [11:27] But I'm using a live mode. [11:28] There is absolutely no effect by switching from the free to the proprietary nvidia drivers/ [11:29] hello? [11:30] does anyone have any idea? [11:30] This is driving me nuts. [11:30] There's one other user who has the same issue. I found a post on Reddit. [11:31] This is definitely not an isolated issue. [11:32] I would test with another distribution that uses Xfce or offers a spin with Xfce [11:32] Yup. [11:32] Tried MX Linux, Linux Mint, Manjaro. [11:32] Xubuntu was the only one that even recognized the monitor. [11:32] Also tried Elementary - which did recognize the monitor. [11:33] but had the same issue. [11:33] ohh [11:33] So is this a driver issue? [11:33] Oh, and Kubuntu as well. [11:34] The same problem as XFCE. [11:34] then it's something beyond the scope of Xubuntu/Xfce [11:35] driver? maybe [11:35] But surely leaving it is not a solution? [11:36] you could check the logs for hints [11:36] ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.xsession-errors.old (previous session) [11:36] and also journalctl [11:36] for system logs [11:37] So what will this give me? [11:37] and /var/log/xorg [11:37] it will give you various log messages [11:37] okay.. [11:37] and one or two may be related to your problem [11:37] a hint [11:37] something to get started [11:40] waiting... [11:41] ?? [11:41] can you explain further? [11:41] I'm a noob, so that'll probably not make sens to me. [11:42] a log message (error or warning) can be helpful when you try to debug a problem [11:42] if you find one that is related to your problem, then you can use it to search the web [11:42] yes, but can you give me the actual commands [11:43] for existing reports, or when you create a new one [11:43] mousepad ~/.xsession-errors [11:43] mousepad ~/.xsession-errors.old [11:43] journalctl -b0 [11:46] This issue is there in 19.10 as well. [11:46] Why hasn't it been fixed? [11:47] Is there any way to contact the devs? [11:49] usually, a bug report is required so that the developers can look into an issue [11:49] can you link the bug report for this particular issue? [11:50] I haven't written one. [11:50] I was using it in a live mode. [11:50] yet you expect that it's magically fixed in a later release [11:51] Okay, but how do I report it? [11:51] this appears to a bit tricky [11:52] ideally, one should report it against the correct component [11:52] that is why I suggest to check the logs for any hints [11:52] I need to boot back into the usb for that. [11:53] it'll take time. [11:53] What do I after that? [11:53] with no hints, maybe file the report against Xorg or the graphics driver [11:53] how? [11:53] !bugs [11:53] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [12:57] Hi, I recently installed xubuntu in Dell inspiron. Somehow the enable wifi option is not showing in the network manager. Please help. [13:02] xu-help39w, look in driver manager? [13:07] yes, I installed "firmware-b43-installer" but still it didn't work. [13:08] Can anyone please point me out the steps I need to follow. I have the latest version of Xubuntu. [13:11] xu-help39w, in terminal: sudo rfkill list [13:11] !pastebin [13:11] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [13:11] then? [13:12] then pastebin and share the link. [13:13] ok [13:43] I was just wondering how i can install this driver, not sure what it is beccause it doesnt say https://i.imgur.com/7g2Xuuc.png [13:44] i thought it may be my intergrated video, there is some slowness for certain things [14:15] Unit193, xubuntu-core 20.04 still crashes when installing to VmWare. I have a screenshot, but I would be happily to assist you in order to obtain more information [14:17] Unit193, https://ibb.co/7vJTFWJ [14:59] how can i set the keyboard on xubuntu? [15:03] sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ? [16:22] how do i upgrade to 20.04 from 19.10 ? [16:26] xu-irc56w: Search your menu for "update", then youw ill find the update manager [16:26] there you can do it [16:26] ah, no, sorry [16:26] Graphical upgrades will still take a while until they arrive. Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong [16:27] how do i do it via cli ? [16:28] and is there any way to get back user interface defaults ? [16:28] *to get back to [16:29] xu-irc56w: I don't know what you mean with user interface defaults [16:29] there is a way, but if you don't know how to do it, I would strongly recommend you not to do it. (if you want to know: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt update & dist-upgrade) [16:30] i changed the theme and main panel etc.. [16:30] i just want the defaults [16:33] update-manager -d [17:19] diogenes_ hey i'm running xubuntu 20.04 it's great, better than 19.04 [17:19] only problem is the winehq i added the eon repository, and sometimes after close the ms word when i reboot get the initramfs screen to run fsck but tis ok no problem here === darko is now known as Awkowkw === Awkowkw is now known as PkuLNX [17:56] hello, can anybody give me a quick rundown on what i have to do to install lutris properly? It says i need wine for it, too, which i have no idea how to properly get, since the apt-get command doesnt find it. [17:57] xu-irc98w, sudo apt install wine [17:58] "unable to locate package wine" [17:58] i get that with apt-get install and apt install, also with lutris [18:02] xu-irc98w, run: apt search wine [18:03] ah i needed to use apt update and apt upgrade for some reason now it works [18:03] is it enough to install wine and then lutris or do i need more? [18:04] i think lutris will install everything. [18:04] wine have 2 version, wine-stable & wine-development === PkuLNX is now known as Darko [18:06] on the lutris site it says i should install wine too [18:07] just running apt install wine gets the stable version, right? [18:08] apt install wine-stable [18:08] ok so it does find wine now, but i still cant find the package for lutris... is something broken in my system? [18:09] no, you dont have lutris repository [18:10] using this, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lutris-team/lutris ,and then get update and install lutris [18:11] alright ima try that. installing wine stable worked now too, thanks [18:12] perfect it works, thanks so much [18:12] anything else i need to get to run games properly or will lutris take care of that now? [18:16] good, maybe you can [18:17] cause, i have never played online games on Linux [18:20] im trying it now hopefully it works [18:20] just one more thing, when i type it sometimes opens up the command menu on the upper left, where u can close windows and such, is there a way to disable whatever command that is? [18:20] i looked through the keyboard shortcuts but couldnt find it, and its annoying af :D [19:45] hello im trying to install a game via lutris, but it semms to be stuck on "creating wine prefix" anything i can do? [19:46] updating wine prefix* [19:48] xu-irc42w, why do you even need lutris? simply wine is more than enough. [19:49] im new to linux so i wanted to go the easy route [19:50] and i have no idea how toa ctually get wine to work [19:52] xu-irc42w, and that's why we're here :) [19:53] haha yea. do u have a quick toturial? [19:53] im trying to get eso to run, since i want to avoid using steam for that [19:54] i've never used lutris but with wine everything is as easy as double click on the game.exe. [19:55] we are not here to help with wine or any of its frontends [19:56] please ask in the correct channel [19:57] idk what the correct channel is or how to join it [19:57] /join #winehq [19:57] /join #lutris [19:57] i cant join that wine channel [19:58] then it's probably for registered users only [19:58] i help with what i can, xu-irc42w if you want you can /join ##MX-Linux and we can talk. [21:35] hello, i have a proble, my wine apps cant seem to connect to the internet. I tried everything but it just gives me errors [21:35] it gives me GoGetClassObjects errors [21:37] https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1692,00.html ;P;D [21:38] (if you'd given 'em beer 1st. :)) [21:40] man, very helpful [21:42] yea, sry! hopefully someone will know what's up. =) [21:42] ive been sitting here all day reinstalling stuff, and now im at a point where i cant even find the error code online [21:43] *don't use WINE, I loathe it - for how every.single.thing must be made compatible. :# [21:43] (and it's never up to date, with anything, meh) [21:43] im trying to install eso. Which works under linux. but steam doesnt let me install it even tho i bought it, because i have the non steam version. so i have to use wine [21:44] i can install the launcher fine, but it gives me all sorts of errors and is stuck on loading, which seems like it cant connect to the internet [22:18] sorinello: Hi. This appears to be the boot opion 'install only' rather than the live session, this tends to be a little more flaky. [22:18] ...A lot more.