[03:47] <km0201> just downloaded xubuntu 20.04.  Very impressed w/ it's speed.  I last used xubuntu.. probably 15.something... It was quite sluggish and I ended up switching to straight Debian.
[03:48] <km0201> due to probs with my laptop video device on Debian.. Decided to check out Xubuntu again... Not only is the video problem solved, it is lightning fast.
[03:48] <km0201> well done.
[03:48] <wigfranz> Hi everyone... I'm from Indonesia and I've been using Xubuntu since 19.04. I have a question and I hope I'll get the answer here. How can I use my USB stick (read & write) after burning an ISO using dd command into it? Because it will formatted to ISO9660 so every bytes remaining can't be used anymore. I mean I have a 8-GB USB and my ISO is just
[03:48] <wigfranz> 1.7 GB, and I want to be able to use the 6.3 GB remaining, just like when I burn ISO using Rufus. How can I do it? Thanks for the answer.
[04:12] <km0201> Use Rufus?  It's an installer, so (as far as I know) they all take the whole disk no matter the size.  Not really designed to leave part of it open for data.
[04:12] <km0201> you'd probably have to partition partition the usb, would be my guess though
[04:15] <well_laid_lawn> if the usb stick is being used for a live cd you have to write to the device not a partition so it can't be used for anything else unless you wipe it clean
[04:25] <km0201> well_laid_lawn, that's what i was thinking
[06:27] <xu-irc59w> how do I access my disks? running xubuntu 18.04 LTS
[06:32] <well_laid_lawn> xu-irc59w:  you should see them in thunar
[07:20] <xu-irc19w> morning everybody
[07:20] <xu-irc19w> i have a question....
[07:21] <xu-irc19w> in the software update is not showing the new xubuntu version 20 for update?
[07:21] <xu-irc19w> any idea?
[07:22] <xu-irc19w> i have 18
[07:23] <xu-irc19w> lts
[07:24] <gnrp> xu-irc19w: It will take a while until old LTS versions are proposed to upgrade
[07:25] <xu-irc19w> ok will wait....thank u...wanna upgrade...not reinstall....
[07:28] <gnrp> xu-irc19w: You can already do it, but n ot the comfortable way
[07:28] <xu-irc19w> yea don't want....
[07:29] <xu-irc19w> wanna keep everything....
[07:29] <xu-irc19w> ok will wait....any idea when?
[07:32] <gnrp> xu-irc19w: Here it says late July https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-to-20-04-lts-focal-fossa#h3-1-1-upgrading-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts
[07:33] <gnrp> I don't know if there's an official time frame for that. For 18.04 it was also one or two months or so, I think
[07:34] <gnrp> but btw, the new desktop background in 20.04 is not as nice as the previous ones. Wouldn't upgrade.
[07:41] <xu-irc19w> thank u for the info
[07:42] <xu-irc19w> very useful....trying....
[08:33] <e3k> hi Brainwash. the "no keyboard in login screen" after screenlock seems to be fixed after removing the xscreensaver package. tested on 2 machines with ubuntu. the question remains why was xscreensaver pulled (i certainly did not install it explicitelly)
[08:35] <brainwash> e3k: maybe the logs in /var/log/apt could tell
[08:35] <brainwash> unless it was installed long long ago
[08:35] <e3k> give me a sec
[08:43] <e3k> brainwash: nothing in the logs anymore and i can not reproduce it now but here: https://itsfoss.com/install-xfce-desktop-xubuntu/ it seems that the package xfce4 pulls it.
[08:48] <brainwash> okay
[08:54] <e3k> which is probably not what we want
[08:54] <e3k> shoul i open a bug?
[09:00] <brainwash> xfce4-session used to install xscreensaver OR light-locker as recommended package
[09:01] <brainwash> Xubuntu pulled in light-locker so that dependency was satisfied
[09:02] <brainwash> in 20.04 the order changed to: xfce4-screensave OR light-locker OR xscreensaver
[09:03] <itpenguin> Is here anyone, who knows, where to download Xubuntu 14.04.1?
[09:03] <e3k> yes the issue was found in 18.04 and 19.something
[09:03] <e3k> so you think this is no more an inssue in 20.04?
[09:04] <e3k> when i try to run apt-get install xfce4 now the package xscreensaver does not show up (did not try to purge whole xfce4 though)
[09:05] <brainwash> the core issue is still present: multiple screen lockers can be installed at the same time, run at the same time, lock the screen at the same time
[09:07] <brainwash> the user may want to install several, so making the installation of screen lockers exclusive does not work I think
[09:07] <rud0lf> i've found a bug in xfce4-notifyd / systemd but i'm too lazy to report it on bugzilla
[09:08] <brainwash> it's something that has not been reported yet?
[09:08] <brainwash> hopefully you aren't too lazy to do that research :)
[09:08] <rud0lf> when some program invokes notify-send at startup, before full login, it fails to run and takes some time after login to restart
[09:09] <rud0lf> i was looking for it and it's not
[09:10] <brainwash> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16746
[09:10] <brainwash> right
[09:10] <rud0lf> oh
[09:10] <rud0lf> darn
[09:10] <brainwash> :D
[09:10] <brainwash> itpenguin: maybe it's archived somewhere
[09:11] <rud0lf> "xfce4-notifyd works fine when I log in after rebooting" "mine" doesn't work after rebooting
[09:13] <brainwash> why does some program send a notification before Xfce is started?
[09:13] <rud0lf> because it's coded by unexperienced coder, it's NordVPN daemon
[09:13] <brainwash> that daemon is a systemd user service?
[09:15] <rud0lf> yes
[09:15] <brainwash> itpenguin: you get some working download servers when you google for it
[09:15] <rud0lf> no wait
[09:15] <rud0lf> no it's not user
[09:16] <brainwash> I wonder how that works exactly
[09:19] <e3k> brainwash: i do not see that as a problem. the issue was that ubuntu did install multiple screensavers which caused the problem. if a user chooses to install multiple screenlockers then it is their problem.
[09:21] <brainwash> e3k: but not by default. Xubuntu only installs one screen locker.
[09:22] <e3k> i did not install xubuntu. on 1 system there was default ubuntu and i installed xfce4. on the other system i installed ubuntu-minimal and then installed again xfce4
[09:23] <brainwash> upgrading may install a second one (new default), but it should be mentioned in the release notes that this step is done
[09:26] <brainwash> I guess being modular like Xfce is can be problematic sometimes
[10:12] <Conna> Hello all
[11:20] <annoyeduser> Hello?
[11:20] <annoyeduser> Okay, I'm using a laptop with an HDMI connection to an external monitor.
[11:21] <annoyeduser> I ran the live mode of Xubuntu 20.04 and 19.10.
[11:21] <annoyeduser> For the love of God, I can't figure a way out to properly switch to my monitor as a sole display
[11:22] <tolja> annoyeduser: try super+p
[11:22] <annoyeduser> Tried,
[11:22] <annoyeduser> but there's another gotcha.
[11:23] <annoyeduser> When I successfully switch to my monitor, boom.
[11:23] <annoyeduser> Everything stops working.
[11:23] <annoyeduser> The screen becomes frozen, but I can still only move the mouse.
[11:23] <annoyeduser> Keyboard, mouse actions , buttons, everything unresponsive.
[11:24] <annoyeduser> I've also tried switching the layout with ARandR and xrandr from the terminal.
[11:24] <annoyeduser> But absolutely nothing works.
[11:24] <annoyeduser> On the flipside, Pop OS seems to work phenomenally.
[11:24] <annoyeduser> Strangely.
[11:25] <annoyeduser> tolja
[11:25] <annoyeduser> I've posted this question on Reddit like 5-6 times and on askubuntu twice, but absolutely no one is responding.
[11:26] <annoyeduser> Does anyone, absolutely anyone know the solution?
[11:26] <tolja> sorry, can't really help any further
[11:26] <annoyeduser> Do you have any idea? Some faint idea?
[11:27] <tolja> I'd start with gpu drivers
[11:27] <annoyeduser> But I'm using a live mode.
[11:28] <annoyeduser> There is absolutely no effect by switching from the free to the proprietary nvidia drivers/
[11:29] <annoyeduser> hello?
[11:30] <annoyeduser> does anyone have any idea?
[11:30] <annoyeduser> This is driving me nuts.
[11:30] <annoyeduser> There's one other user who has the same issue. I found a post on Reddit.
[11:31] <annoyeduser> This is definitely not an isolated issue.
[11:32] <brainwash> I would test with another distribution that uses Xfce or offers a spin with Xfce
[11:32] <annoyeduser> Yup.
[11:32] <annoyeduser> Tried MX Linux, Linux Mint, Manjaro.
[11:32] <annoyeduser> Xubuntu was the only one that even recognized the monitor.
[11:32] <annoyeduser> Also tried Elementary - which did recognize the monitor.
[11:33] <annoyeduser> but had the same issue.
[11:33] <brainwash> ohh
[11:33] <annoyeduser> So is this a driver issue?
[11:33] <annoyeduser> Oh, and Kubuntu as well.
[11:34] <annoyeduser> The same problem as XFCE.
[11:34] <brainwash> then it's something beyond the scope of Xubuntu/Xfce
[11:35] <brainwash> driver? maybe
[11:35] <annoyeduser> But surely leaving it is not a solution?
[11:36] <brainwash> you could check the logs for hints
[11:36] <brainwash> ~/.xsession-errors and ~/.xsession-errors.old (previous session)
[11:36] <brainwash> and also journalctl
[11:36] <brainwash> for system logs
[11:37] <annoyeduser> So what will this give me?
[11:37] <brainwash> and /var/log/xorg
[11:37] <brainwash> it will give you various log messages
[11:37] <annoyeduser> okay..
[11:37] <brainwash> and one or two may be related to your problem
[11:37] <brainwash> a hint
[11:37] <brainwash> something to get started
[11:40] <annoyeduser> waiting...
[11:41] <annoyeduser> ??
[11:41] <annoyeduser> can you explain further?
[11:41] <annoyeduser> I'm a noob, so that'll probably not make sens to me.
[11:42] <brainwash> a log message (error or warning) can be helpful when you try to debug a problem
[11:42] <brainwash> if you find one that is related to your problem, then you can use it to search the web
[11:42] <annoyeduser> yes, but can you give me the actual commands
[11:43] <brainwash> for existing reports, or when you create a new one
[11:43] <brainwash> mousepad ~/.xsession-errors
[11:43] <brainwash> mousepad ~/.xsession-errors.old
[11:43] <brainwash> journalctl -b0
[11:46] <annoyeduser> This issue is there in 19.10 as well.
[11:46] <annoyeduser> Why hasn't it been fixed?
[11:47] <annoyeduser> Is there any way to contact the devs?
[11:49] <brainwash> usually, a bug report is required so that the developers can look into an issue
[11:49] <brainwash> can you link the bug report for this particular issue?
[11:50] <annoyeduser> I haven't written one.
[11:50] <annoyeduser> I was using it in a live mode.
[11:50] <brainwash> yet you expect that it's magically fixed in a later release
[11:51] <annoyeduser> Okay, but how do I report it?
[11:51] <brainwash> this appears to a bit tricky
[11:52] <brainwash> ideally, one should report it against the correct component
[11:52] <brainwash> that is why I suggest to check the logs for any hints
[11:52] <annoyeduser> I need to boot back into the usb for that.
[11:53] <annoyeduser> it'll take time.
[11:53] <annoyeduser> What do I after that?
[11:53] <brainwash> with no hints, maybe file the report against Xorg or the graphics driver
[11:53] <annoyeduser> how?
[11:53] <brainwash> !bugs
[12:57] <xu-help39w> Hi, I recently installed xubuntu in Dell inspiron. Somehow the enable wifi option is not showing in the network manager. Please help.
[13:02] <diogenes_> xu-help39w, look in driver manager?
[13:07] <xu-help39w> yes, I installed "firmware-b43-installer" but still it didn't work.
[13:08] <xu-help39w> Can anyone please point me out the steps I need to follow. I have the latest version of Xubuntu.
[13:11] <diogenes_> xu-help39w, in terminal: sudo rfkill list
[13:11] <diogenes_> !pastebin
[13:11] <xu-help39w> then?
[13:12] <diogenes_> then pastebin and share the link.
[13:13] <xu-help39w> ok
[13:43] <turbokitty> I was just wondering how i can install this driver, not sure what it is beccause it doesnt say https://i.imgur.com/7g2Xuuc.png
[13:44] <turbokitty> i thought it may be my intergrated video, there is some slowness for certain things
[14:15] <sorinello> Unit193, xubuntu-core 20.04 still crashes when installing to VmWare.  I have a screenshot, but I would be happily to assist you in order to obtain more information
[14:17] <sorinello> Unit193, https://ibb.co/7vJTFWJ
[14:59] <wr> how can i set the keyboard on xubuntu?
[15:03] <wr> sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ?
[16:22] <xu-irc56w> how do i upgrade to 20.04 from 19.10 ?
[16:26] <gnrp> xu-irc56w: Search your menu for "update", then youw ill find the update manager
[16:26] <gnrp> there you can do it
[16:26] <gnrp> ah, no, sorry
[16:26] <gnrp> Graphical upgrades will still take a while until they arrive. Please somebody correct me if I'm wrong
[16:27] <xu-irc56w> how do i do it via cli ?
[16:28] <xu-irc56w> and is there any way to get back user interface defaults ?
[16:28] <xu-irc56w> *to get back to
[16:29] <gnrp> xu-irc56w: I don't know what you mean with user interface defaults
[16:29] <gnrp> there is a way, but if you don't know how to do it, I would strongly recommend you not to do it. (if you want to know: edit the /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt update & dist-upgrade)
[16:30] <xu-irc56w> i changed the theme and main panel etc..
[16:30] <xu-irc56w> i just want the defaults
[16:33] <xu-irc56w> update-manager -d
[17:19] <Noboru55> diogenes_ hey i'm running xubuntu 20.04 it's great, better than 19.04
[17:19] <Noboru55> only problem is the winehq i added the eon repository, and sometimes after close the ms word when i reboot get the initramfs screen to run fsck but tis ok no problem here
[17:56] <xu-irc98w> hello, can anybody give me a quick rundown on what i have to do to install lutris properly? It says i need wine for it, too, which i have no idea how to properly get, since the apt-get command doesnt find it.
[17:57] <diogenes_> xu-irc98w, sudo apt install wine
[17:58] <xu-irc98w> "unable to locate package wine"
[17:58] <xu-irc98w> i get that with apt-get install and apt install, also with lutris
[18:02] <diogenes_> xu-irc98w, run: apt search wine
[18:03] <xu-irc98w> ah i needed to use apt update and apt upgrade for some reason now it works
[18:03] <xu-irc98w> is it enough to install wine and then lutris or do i need more?
[18:04] <diogenes_> i think lutris will install everything.
[18:04] <PkuLNX> wine have 2 version, wine-stable & wine-development
[18:06] <xu-irc98w> on the lutris site it says i should install wine too
[18:07] <xu-irc98w> just running apt install wine gets the stable version, right?
[18:08] <Darko> apt install wine-stable
[18:08] <xu-irc98w> ok so it does find wine now, but i still cant find the package for lutris... is something broken in my system?
[18:09] <Darko> no, you dont have lutris repository
[18:10] <Darko> using this, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lutris-team/lutris ,and then get update and install lutris
[18:11] <xu-irc98w> alright ima try that. installing wine stable worked now too, thanks
[18:12] <xu-irc98w> perfect it works, thanks so much
[18:12] <xu-irc98w> anything else i need to get to run games properly or will lutris take care of that now?
[18:16] <Darko> good, maybe you can
[18:17] <Darko> cause, i have never played online games on Linux
[18:20] <xu-irc98w> im trying it now hopefully it works
[18:20] <xu-irc98w> just one more thing, when i type it sometimes opens up the command menu on the upper left, where u can close windows and such, is there a way to disable whatever command that is?
[18:20] <xu-irc98w> i looked through the keyboard shortcuts but couldnt find it, and its annoying af :D
[19:45] <xu-irc42w> hello im trying to install a game via lutris, but it semms to be stuck on "creating wine prefix" anything i can do?
[19:46] <xu-irc42w> updating wine prefix*
[19:48] <diogenes_> xu-irc42w, why do you even need lutris? simply wine is more than enough.
[19:49] <xu-irc42w> im new to linux so i wanted to go the easy route
[19:50] <xu-irc42w> and i have no idea how toa ctually get wine to work
[19:52] <diogenes_> xu-irc42w, and that's why we're here :)
[19:53] <xu-irc42w> haha yea. do u have a quick toturial?
[19:53] <xu-irc42w> im trying to get eso to run, since i want to avoid using steam for that
[19:54] <diogenes_> i've never used lutris but with wine everything is as easy as double click on the game.exe.
[19:55] <brainwash> we are not here to help with wine or any of its frontends
[19:56] <brainwash> please ask in the correct channel
[19:57] <xu-irc42w> idk what the correct channel is or how to join it
[19:57] <brainwash> /join #winehq
[19:57] <brainwash> /join #lutris
[19:57] <xu-irc42w> i cant join that wine channel
[19:58] <brainwash> then it's probably for registered users only
[19:58] <diogenes_> i help with what i can, xu-irc42w if you want you can /join ##MX-Linux and we can talk.
[21:35] <xu-irc57w> hello, i have a proble, my wine apps cant seem to connect to the internet. I tried everything but it just gives me errors
[21:35] <xu-irc57w> it gives me GoGetClassObjects errors
[21:37] <kgb> https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-1692,00.html ;P;D
[21:38] <kgb> (if you'd given 'em beer 1st. :))
[21:40] <xu-irc57w> man, very helpful
[21:42] <kgb> yea, sry! hopefully someone will know what's up. =)
[21:42] <xu-irc57w> ive been sitting here all day reinstalling stuff, and now im at a point where i cant even find the error code online
[21:43] <kgb> *don't use WINE, I loathe it - for how every.single.thing must be made compatible. :#
[21:43] <kgb> (and it's never up to date, with anything, meh)
[21:43] <xu-irc57w> im trying to install eso. Which works under linux. but steam doesnt let me install it even tho i bought it, because i have the non steam version. so i have to use wine
[21:44] <xu-irc57w> i can install the launcher fine, but it gives me all sorts of errors and is stuck on loading, which seems like it cant connect to the internet
[22:18] <Unit193> sorinello: Hi.  This appears to be the boot opion 'install only' rather than the live session, this tends to be a little more flaky.
[22:18] <Unit193> ...A lot more.