 I wonder if that ^ is related to the UID/GID mismatch issue.
[00:21] <wxl> @kc2bez: wot?
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r87hyyM2mK/
 The UID is 1000 but the GID is 1001
[00:23] <wxl> that's worth testing.. please mention that
[00:24] <wxl> also how DO we fix that?
 I don't know. sambashare has GID 1000
[00:26] <wxl> @tsimonq2: ^^^^ do you know?
[00:35] <wxl> didn't we have a bug report of that somewhere?
 Yeah, searching unsuccessfully for it now.
 There was one though, I feel fairly confident.
 I have no clue
 There are problems with lo and samba
 I use cifs instead
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 I think is a problem with gvfs, not sure what thunar uses
 I found the prior sambashare bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1857364
 I will link to it in the forum post.
 I posted what I know about gvfs/ smaba/ lo
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[12:17] <theloudspeaker_> now that my containers got nuked. I am thinking of never using them again. instead I plan to use a sbuild to build packages. 
[12:17] <theloudspeaker_> links to set up sbuild would be useful :)
[12:22] <kc2bez> Number 16 here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packaging_for_new_upstream_releases/
[12:36] <theloudspeaker_> thanks!
[12:37] <theloudspeaker_> but I will have to wait till e get groovy into devlopment right?
[12:37] <theloudspeaker_> *development 
[12:37] <theloudspeaker_> **we
[12:39] <kc2bez> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2020-April/040982.html
[12:46] <theloudspeaker_> oh so debootstrap isn't updated yet to have the groovy script. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vqJMPx5Bwb/
[14:03] <RikMills> theloudspeaker_: yes it has. on some releases (focal etc) it may be in proposed
[14:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yeah. Cjwatson just pointed that out.
[17:37] <wxl> can anyone else confirm this? i seem to have the opposite experience https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/how-to-disable-the-lock-of-mouse-pad-over-typing/1009
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/pYCTbiA.jpg there should be an option similar to this in touchpad preferences which can be enabled/disabled. by default it is usually disabled
[17:43] <wxl> that's not lxqt :/
[17:44] <wxl> @tsimonq2: going back to that uid/gid issue note here where i find the problem lies in the squashfs, so it must not be calamares. how are the group files generated for the squashfs? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1857364
[18:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> yup! not lxqt. but we need simillar option in lxqt (Lubuntu) I was just showing an example
 @wxl [<wxl> can anyone else confirm this? i seem to have the opposite experience https …], The touchpad does nothing when I start typing. I can't even move the cursor. I am not sure what the delay is but when I stop typing the touchpad is re-enabled.
 Does that answer the question?
 I was having difficulty following.
[18:17] <wxl> huh.
[18:19] <wxl> can you figure out a way to reconfigure it with xinput? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput#Via_xinput
 yes
 I was able to change it
[18:30] <wxl> cool. want to drop a line in that post and give them some hints?
 sure. let me bundle that together a bit.
 First I need to change that back XD
[18:33] <wxl> it's way better than tap to click
 I just don't want my touchpad on when I type.
 wxl please make sure what i tapped out there makes sense.
[21:08] <wxl> beautiful
[21:15] <tsimonq2> wxl: I have no clue.
[21:16] <tsimonq2> wxl: livecd-rootfs?
[21:16] <wxl> siiiiiiiiiiiiiigh why is it only for us
[21:16] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: Were you going to land the Cala change or did you want me to?
[21:17] <wxl> feel free
[21:17] <tsimonq2> I still have to do some new release stuff for our settings.
[21:17] <tsimonq2> Okay, cool.
[21:18] <tsimonq2> First, I'm going to work on the LXQt release.
[21:18] <tsimonq2> This'll be fun...
[21:19] <wxl> @kc2bez: do you know if any of the other flavors have this same problem? if so i'm inclined to blame something like livecd-rootfs
[21:25] <tsimonq2> All ci/unstable branches for LXQt have been merged into ci/stable.
 @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez: do you know if any of the other flavors have this same problem? i …], I am unsure but I will do some investigating.
[21:44] <wxl> thx
[21:46] <tsimonq2> wxl, @kc2bez, @aptghetto, @The_LoudSpeaker, @HMollerCl, et. al: https://notes.lubuntu.me/_gs2sNGKS9Kni5i7AzEytw#
[21:47] <tsimonq2> *et al. iirc
[21:47] <tsimonq2> In case anyone wants to see the steps I follow.
[21:47] <tsimonq2> I've done this full cleanup and version bump at the beginning of previous releases, but I don't remember documenting it.
 Always love learning from the master.
[21:48] <wxl> i don't think i have an account yet
[21:49] <tsimonq2> :)
[21:49] <tsimonq2> wxl: Go blame teward as always. :P
 @aptghetto did you know the "admin:///" suffix to sort the gksu lxqt-sudo thing?
 I found it a very good solution
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> wxl, @kc2bez, @aptghetto, @The_LoudSpeaker, @HMollerCl, et. al: https …], why ci/stable and unstable differe yet?
[22:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm banging my head against the wall trying to import tsujan's pubkey.
 @HMollerCl [why ci/stable and unstable differe yet?], I don't quite understand your question. unstable tracked the tip of Git master, which has now been tagged.
 stable tracks the latest tagged.
[22:07] <wxl> tsimonq2: why?
[22:08] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2RVhWbDnwp/
[22:08] <wxl> https://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?search=19DFDF3A579BD509DBB572D8BE793007AD22DF7E&fingerprint=on&op=index
[22:08] <wxl> that's because it's not there
[22:08] <tsimonq2> wtf tsujan
[22:08] <tsimonq2> sigh
[22:08] <tsimonq2> ok
[22:09] <wxl> more like wtf you
[22:09] <tsimonq2> ?
[22:09] <wxl> you assume he puts it on the ubuntu keyserver? XD
[22:09] <tsimonq2> The Ubuntu keyserver is mirrored.
[22:09] <tsimonq2> Same error with MIT's.
 Did tsujan actually sign it.
 ?
[22:10] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[22:10] <wxl> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1779#issuecomment-619406077
 I lost track in the long thread
 Lots of back and forth
[22:11] <tsimonq2> oh wtf
[22:11] <tsimonq2> wxl: Thanks.
[22:11] <wxl> i wonder which we should say is the *best* keyserver to use
[22:12] <wxl> probably sks
[22:12] <tsimonq2> oh this works
[22:12] <tsimonq2> $ curl https://api.github.com/users/tsujan/gpg_keys
[22:13] <wxl> keys.gnupg.net HTTPS fail jeez the toe cheese is going to stallman's head
[22:14] <tsimonq2> XD
[22:14] <tsimonq2> ok ok I figured this out
[22:19] <tsimonq2> curl -X GET https://api.github.com/users/tsujan/gpg_keys | python3 -c "import sys,json; print(json.load(sys.stdin)[0]['raw_key'])"
[22:19] <tsimonq2> Bad.
[22:19] <tsimonq2> But, it works.
[22:19] <wxl> wottttttttttttt
[22:19] <wxl> oh for pete's sake
[22:19]  * wxl sets json on fire
[22:23] <wxl> huh i just upgraded an old daily of focal and it did NOT want to update the wallpaper
[22:23] <wxl> even when i explicitly pointed it at the symlinks
 There is a bug for that ^
[22:23] <wxl> upstream?
 Launchpad
[22:23] <wxl> hmph
[22:24] <wxl> cuz i'm wondering if lxqt doesn't break on symlinks
 @Leokolb reported it
 I couldn't get my head wrapped around it.
[22:25] <wxl> well we have default.jpg -> default.png -> the-actual.png
[22:25] <wxl> either of those defaults fails
[22:25] <tsimonq2> O_O
[22:25] <wxl> the .jpg fails outright (black screen)
[22:25] <wxl> the .png showed the 19.10 wallpaper????
[22:25] <wxl> but the actual one worked
[22:25]  * wxl shrugs
 And the symlink works on a new iso
 xdg-open works on them too I think
 head scratcher for sure.
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[22:30] <wxl> oh tsujan you silly bear
[22:31] <tsimonq2> Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids.
[22:32] <wxl> my first irc nick many moons ago when i was likely annoying as you was TrIxTeR
[22:33] <tsimonq2> HAHAHAHAHA
[22:33] <wxl> the "why" is even worse
[22:33] <wxl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VooRUo7NoF8
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[22:45] <tsimonq2> wxl: hahahahahaha
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[23:23] <tsimonq2> Kicking off an lxqt-build-tools run in CI before the rest so we don't FTBFS all over the place.
[23:24] <tsimonq2> After that I'll do libqtxdg, then liblxqt.
[23:24] <tsimonq2> Things should FTBFS fairly less frequently after that.
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[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING8168f167c32d: New upstream release.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING8168f167c32d
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING1e34c0b56a7a: Update upstream signing key.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING1e34c0b56a7a
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING50be266bb3e9: Bump Standards-version to 4.5.0, no changes needed.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING50be266bb3e9
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING7896f3a9d899: debhelper -> debhelper-compat.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGING7896f3a9d899
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGINGa3c7cb2f9499: Run wrap-and-sort.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGINGa3c7cb2f9499
[23:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGINGf8e5a8394056: Bump LXQt build dependencies.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTGLOBALKEYSPACKAGINGf8e5a8394056
[23:59] <teward> WOW that's a lot of pings and notices