 Why don't people use the . torrent to download.  Since it has its checking built in.
 It also faster then the web DL for me. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <jphilips> ask him to check the checksum of the iso and see if it matches c8977ce50d175dfce8e309dcaef8f1b3)
 We don't me it the first download means everywhere and some people don't have torrent clients. (re @troyBORG: Why don't people use the . torrent to download.  Since it has its checking built in.
 It also faster then the web DL for me.)
[02:38] <valorie> they were all *amazingly* fast from torrents this time
[02:39] <valorie> they all started seeding within minutes of me downloading the .torrent files
[02:39] <valorie> and I think were all complete within the hour
 Has anyone else noticed any issues with the installwrnajd installing Nvidia drivers on hybrid cards? I'm still trying to quantify, but I'm running off of reports from people who aren't too keen on followup or providing additional details. Just thought I would check with the larger group.
 Has anyone else noticed any issues with the installer installing Nvidia drivers on hybrid cards? I'm still trying to quantify, but I'm running off of reports from people who aren't too keen on followup or providing additional details. Just thought I would check with the larger group. (edited)
[04:30] <valorie> @bashfulrobot I have nvidia but use the System76 PPA, since this is a sys76 box
[04:30] <valorie> keeps everything perfect
[04:31] <valorie> haven't really seen what you report
 Yeah - I am more looking at he traditional installer/behavior.
[04:31] <valorie> and I didn't really have the time or energy to do install testing
 I do not have a hybrid card so I cannot really test it.
[04:32] <valorie> shame on me
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> we have 2 nvidia bugs on the releasenotes
[04:32] <valorie> I think this one is, but....
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> and we had several users reporting nvidia issues in #ubuntu
 I guess I'll go start digging and see if anything lines up.
 Thanks all
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> @bashfulrobot: most cases its a combo of your chipset, the driver version and the kernel
 I noticed it "seems" to be "ti" related cards. But I cannot get enough data (from people) to correlate for sure
 there was a bug report i commented about people having problems with nvidia cards (re @bashfulrobot: Has anyone else noticed any issues with the installer installing Nvidia drivers on hybrid cards? I'm still trying to quantify, but I'm running off of reports from people who aren't too keen on followup or providing additional details. Just thought I would check with the larger group.
 someone reported a ti bug on askubuntu yesterday
 https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231497/nividia-geforce-1050ti-driver-installed-but-no-output
 Thanks!!
 this was a bug i tested for mate regarding nvidia - Bug #1871268
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> todays desktop https://imgur.com/a/Tw1TB3H
 i386...  Installing 32bit from cd image..  thought they ended 32bit client release... (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <ubot5> bug 1871268 in Ubuntu CD Images "Installation fails with Could not configure 'libc6:i386'. , E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1871268)
 @franksmcb just filed this as it was ubuntu mate related https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-control-center/issues/562
 lotuspsychje: is that your desktop?
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> yes
 interesting layout, though not sure why you have the button bar at the top when you already have the dock at the bottom with indicators
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> @philipz: thats workspaces to dock extension from the repos
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> i placed a bug about that, it doesnt hide when windows are not in full mode
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> @philipz: this is how it looks when mouse hover: https://imgur.com/a/lsWjN7U
 oh its a workspaces extension, though it was a window list :D
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> yeah its a bit confusing, hence why i placed bug #1873659 @philipz
 @bashfulrobot any update on the nvidia issue?
 Not yet. People kind of swooped in, then disappeared. (re @philipz: @bashfulrobot any update on the nvidia issue?)
 @bashfulrobot any luck contacting the person from askubuntu?
 Oh, I wasn't working with that person. And when I popped in previous, that was right before bed, and I'm just getting my day going today.
 Is the Ubuntu Cinnamon in here?   I keep getting this crash popup.  But when I click report problem nothing happens.  I keep exspecting Launchpad to open.   Or is it sending to you? :
  (edited)Is the Ubuntu Cinnamon dev in here?   I keep getting this crash popup.  But when I click report problem nothing happens.  I keep exspecting Launchpad to open.   Or is it sending to you? :
  (edited)@ItzSwirlz  I keep getting this crash popup.  But when I click report problem nothing happens.  I keep exspecting Launchpad to open.   Or is it sending to you? :
 check the /var/crash folder to see if you can find the file in there
 i went through that quite a bit as well, with ubuntu mate not wanting to send crash reports
 then you can run 'ubuntu-bug FILENAME.crash' in that folder
 sometimes that didnt work, so i copied the crash file into a new bug report i opened on launchpad
 I submitted the bug, then as I went to send this screenshot I get another popup :
 The log does show this... :
 ty (re @troyBORG: )
 ill look at it
 Hmm....  I tried to go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863628
 And it can't be found..
 yeah
 i just saw that
 Just send the crash report
 It might be a private bug
 Show me the traceback
 please
 Also, thanks for testing out UC :D (re @troyBORG: )
 what do I file it under for package.
 Yes
 As Cinnamon-launcher does not exist in Ubuntu:"
 cinnamon-launcher should be a package
 ah great
 uhh
 lemme check the sourcecoe
 lemme check the sourcecode (edited)
 It's part of cinnamon package

 Dont file it yet
 let me check to get a more accurate package
 File it under 'cinnamon'
 File it under 'cinnamon' package (edited)

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1875724
 You need to add the stacktrace and everything
 When it shows the ubuntu-bug window press the send button
 if it lets you
 like send the stacktrace and everything in the ubuntu-bug window so i can better investigate
 meanwhile ill look at it in linux mint
 probably a patch has been released by now
 In case anyone want to try VenToy, *ubuntu 20.04 requires the beta release: https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.08beta2
 Unpack the .gz file, CD into ventoy-1.0.08b2, and run sudo ./Ventoy2Disk.sh -i /dev/sdx    <—- where sdx is your usb drive.
 sounds like @popeydc and @wimpress would like that ^
 hah
 is this similar to what it looks like? @troyBORG os.execvp(FALLBACK_COMMAND, (FALLBACK_COMMAND,) + FALLBACK_ARGS)
 File "/usr/lib/python3.6/os.py", line 559, in execvp
 _execvpe(file, args)
 File "/usr/lib/python3.6/os.py", line 604, in _execvpe
 raise last_exc.with_traceback(tb)
 File "/usr/lib/python3.6/os.py", line 594, in _execvpe
 exec_func(fullname, *argrest)
 FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
 None: no process found
 I've tried to send it multiple times.   I think its crashing, cause after I submit it.  About a min later I get a "System program problem detected" popup
 Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files.
 With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.
 You can copy many iso files at a time and ventoy will give you a boot menu to select them.
 Both Legacy BIOS and UEFI are supported in the same way. 200+ ISO files are tested.
 A "Ventoy Compatible" concept is introduced by ventoy, which can help to support any ISO file. (re @RikMills: sounds like @popeydc and @wimpress would like that ^)
 weird, and also the package is filed under ubiquity (re @troyBORG: I've tried to send it multiple times.   I think its crashing, cause after I submit it.  About a min later I get a "System program problem detected" popup)
 Best part, the USB is still usable for other files.
 fixed it
 I selected cinamon.  sorry about that
 or this?
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/bin/cinnamon-launcher", line 72, in <module>
     os.execvp(FALLBACK_COMMAND, (FALLBACK_COMMAND,) + FALLBACK_ARGS)
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/os.py", line 566, in execvp
     _execvpe(file, args)
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/os.py", line 608, in _execvpe
     raise last_exc
   File "/usr/lib/python3.8/os.py", line 599, in _execvpe
     exec_func(fullname, *argrest)
 FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
 None: no process found
 if you can open all the windows and send me screenshots that'd be great
 is it something like this?
 But it looks like its in Manjaro.
 That's everywhere I keep getting it back t
 That's everywhere I keep getting it back to (edited)

 wait.. scroll down just a little
 so i can view the whole traceback
 i feel like i know what it is
 i think its python compatibility breaking

 like this?
 ty
 its a python compatibility
 lm must have it fixed
 last commit is 6 months ago. great.
 Code is same
 I am actually about to do an LM install so I can take a look at it
 how did you get this again?
 its just popping up huh? not happening to me. odd
 It just keep poping up for me.  I donno if its maybe from the packages I installed...
 Would changing the theme and icons to Yaru Dark do anything?
 no
 so i ran a diff and this line changed
 os.execvp(sys.argv[0], (sys.argv[0], "--replace"))
 comapred to
 os.execvp(sys.argv[0], (sys.argv[0], "--replace"))
 and no difference
 Yeah I'm running it in a VM on my Manjaro Desktop... (re @ItzSwirlz: But it looks like its in Manjaro.)
 /
 . (edited)
 that will do it...
 Oh wait
 Oh no. Manjaro being your host VM shouldn't matter
 there is no changes. prob a glitch, ignore it
  (re @ItzSwirlz: Oh no. Manjaro being your host VM shouldn't matter)Yep :
 I'll probally just try a clean install of it again in the VM. (re @ItzSwirlz: there is no changes. prob a glitch, ignore it)
 redownload the iso
 622d868436dc44d2301683ab95f40185  ubuntucinnamon-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso
 The md5 of the one I have matches...
 well crap.  I gotta get going to work :(
 I'll have to play with it more tonight after work