[00:00] <ceska> I;m on 18.04
[00:16] <ahmedamerican> is it possible to connect to `openvpn server` without being root ?
[00:17] <sarnold> this feels like something networkmanager can probably do
[00:28] <eelstrebor> i've been using unbound with dnscrypt-proxy - they don't do any name resolution after a reboot until i run resolvconf -u from the cli (ubuntu 20.04)
[00:29] <eelstrebor> why isn't that done automajically?
[00:50] <bray90820> How would I make anything added to my samba server on 20.04 have the permissions I am adding from MacOX Windows and ubuntu itself
[01:00] <doug16k> bray90820, that should be setting acls on the files, it should just work if you have samba configured to use the connected user's user and group
[01:01] <doug16k> the permisssions set from windows at least
[01:01] <bray90820> It doesn't
[01:02] <bray90820> I coped a file that was 777 from the share to MacOS deleted it on the share then copied it back its whatever number this is
[01:02] <bray90820> drwxr-xr-x
[01:03] <bray90820> And nobody is the owner
[01:03] <bray90820> doug16k:
[01:03] <doug16k> you probably have a mask setup
[01:03] <euxneks> drwxr-xr-x is 755 iirc
[01:04] <doug16k> if you want to allow people to make those you need to set the mask to 777
[01:04] <doug16k> by default it prevents people making excessively permissive mode bits
[01:04] <bray90820> How would I change teh mask
[01:04] <doug16k> world write is basically crazy
[01:04] <bray90820> Because I think I already have to be honest
[01:05] <Ben64> yeah why would you want that
[01:05] <doug16k> in your samba.conf, under [your-share-name-here]
[01:05] <Ben64> having everything 777 is a terrible idea
[01:05] <bray90820> It's my own personal server so it's fine
[01:05] <doug16k> I am not saying make anything 777
[01:05] <Ben64> basically lets anyone and anything edit or delete your files
[01:05] <doug16k> he wants 777 mask so if a user commands it, it obeys
[01:05] <Ben64> but why
[01:06] <doug16k> bad idea I agree
[01:06] <bray90820> I am the only one using it so I don't care
[01:06] <Ben64> but why do you need it
[01:06] <Ben64> what's the goal here
[01:06] <cluelessperson_> I need help with something.
[01:06] <cluelessperson_> My load average is only 1.5 or so across the board.
[01:07] <cluelessperson_> memory is showing 6/7.61GB
[01:07] <cluelessperson_> swap 1.8/8GB
[01:07] <bray90820> I already have the line "create mask = 0777" is what I have in my samba conf so shouldn't it make everything 777?
[01:07] <cluelessperson_> but I get this constant stuttering and it's driving me insane
[01:07] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: are you seriously 1.8 gigabytes into swap?
[01:08] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, apparently?
[01:08] <sarnold> ouch
[01:08] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: run vmstat 1 from a terminal and keep on eye on the si and so columns -- are those a steady series of zeroes, or are they non-zero?
[01:08] <johnjay> is there some way to tell linux to terminate programs if you reach 6/7GB of mem used?
[01:08] <johnjay> that might come in handy
[01:08] <bray90820> doug16k: I already have the line "create mask = 0777" is what I have in my samba conf so shouldn't it make everything 777?
[01:09] <doug16k> bray90820, that means, take the mode that the program gave to their call to open, and mask it with 777.. if the program commanded to create a file with 755 then 755 & 777 is still 755
[01:09] <cluelessperson_> johnjay, yes
[01:09] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, currently 0s
[01:09] <cluelessperson_> sometimes spike a bit
[01:09] <doug16k> bray90820, that is for forcing bits to *zero*, not for forcing anything to 1
[01:09] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: when it's non-zero, that shows swap being saved to disk (so, swap out) or swap being read back from disk (si, swap in)
[01:09] <bray90820> So what should I do then?
[01:09] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: you want those numbers to be zeros, always
[01:10] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, I'm confused becaues in htop, nothing seems to killing me, so I don't know what to fix
[01:10] <Ben64> bray90820: why do you need 777
[01:10] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, it's not always 0
[01:10] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, it's usually 0
[01:10] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: eight gigs of memory is apparently not enough for everything you're trying to do
[01:10] <bray90820> Ben64: Does it matter why I want 777?
[01:10] <Ben64> yes
[01:11] <bray90820> Why?
[01:11] <Ben64> maybe there is a better solution for the actual issue you're trying to solve
[01:11] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, _ALL_ I have open are irc, webstorm, 15 chromium tabs, and a terminal
[01:11] <Ben64> cluelessperson_: can you elaborate on 'stuttering'
[01:12] <bray90820> I want everything to have the same permissions of 777 when I add it to my server I am the only one using it so having everything 777 doesn't mattter
[01:12] <doug16k> bray90820, are you really trying to grant a certain user or group permissions that override the user/group/mode ?
[01:12] <Ben64> not really an answer to my question
[01:12] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, especially while using chrome, every few seconds, especially while opening new tabs, my inteface keeps freezing up, and CPU is hitting 100% on every single thread.
[01:12] <Ben64> cluelessperson_: neat!!!
[01:12] <Ben64> i've been having a very similar thing
[01:13] <cluelessperson_> bray90820, it's called "user/permission squash"
[01:13] <bray90820> What I want is to have everything be readable writeable and executable from everywhere
[01:13] <Ben64> cluelessperson_: what cpu, gpu, and are you on chrome or chromium?
[01:13] <doug16k> bray90820, you can make that happen with acls
[01:14] <bray90820> How?
[01:14] <bray90820> doug16k:
[01:14] <doug16k> you could set a default acl on all the directories in that directory tree, that grant you rwx on everything
[01:14] <Ben64> cluelessperson_: also what ubuntu version
[01:14] <bray90820> What do you mean?
[01:14] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8265U CPU @ 1.60GHz
[01:15] <cluelessperson_> sarnold, so is ram really the problem here? :/
[01:15] <cluelessperson_> and it's an NVME SSD, I'd think swap would not be an issue either.
[01:15] <Ben64> doubt it, i think whatever you're experiencing is what i've been seeing
[01:15] <Ben64> it just started for me recently
[01:17]  * cluelessperson_ tries firefox
[01:17] <Ben64> cluelessperson_: D:
[01:18] <Ben64> i was trying to figure this out with you
[01:18] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, I don't know what I'm supposed to do here.
[01:18] <Ben64> what ubuntu version, gpu, and chrome or chromium
[01:19] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, Version 81.0.4044.122 (Official Build) snap (64-bit)
[01:19] <mesaboogie> snap... hrm...
[01:20] <Ben64> that's like... 1/6th of what I asked
[01:21] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, I'm compiling
[01:21] <Ben64> ok
[01:21] <sarnold> cluelessperson_: it's a real possibility -- check smem output on your system to try to get a feeling for how much each process is consuming of your memory
[01:22] <Ben64> sarnold: I have 32GB and been seeing the same behavior on my system
[01:23] <sarnold> Ben64: heh, are you also running four times as much stuff? :) heh
[01:23] <cluelessperson_> what's that command to upload all your hardware/software versioning and such?
[01:23] <sarnold> support folks use sosreport, but .. it's *huge*. way too much.
[01:23] <Ben64> sarnold: not quite
[01:24] <mesaboogie> inxi -Fxxxrzc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:24] <mesaboogie> then share link
[01:24] <mesaboogie> cluelessperson_: ^^^
[01:24] <Ben64> I *think* I solved it today, but not sure yet
[01:26] <cluelessperson_> mesaboogie, thanks
[01:26] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, https://termbin.com/sqq3
[01:26] <sarnold> Ben64: during the focal dev cycle, I saw some really inexplicable swap use, and stalls that could last a minute or so.. but the kernel I'm running now (I think it's focal's release kernel) has been rock solid for me
[01:28] <sarnold> I'd heard of similar issues in eoan, I wonder if the fixes have made it to eoan or not
[01:28] <Ben64> cluelessperson_: ok so the only thing we have in common is chrome
[01:28] <Ben64> i'd guess it's a chrome bug, so far everything seems ok since I turned off hardware acceleration, maybe give that a shot
[01:29] <Ben64> also, are you running discord? that uses the chromium engine and also has hardware acceleration as an option, turned that off, and so far everything has been smooth today
[01:31] <Synx_hm> How can i tell if ive installed the am using the correct nvidia drivers? Under a normal 20.04 install all works without issue, but i have to do a debootstrap install because im using ZFS encrypted on root, and when i installed 'apt install ubuntu-desktop' the boot freezes unless i add 'nosetmode' to my kernel boot options, i assume this is because
[01:31] <Synx_hm> i am using the open source drivers even though i have installed the nvidia proprietary drivers
[01:31] <bray90820> Ben64: I would much prefer to make everything 777 then to do something else if you can help me with that
[01:31] <Synx_hm> s/installed the am/installed an am/
[01:32] <Ben64> Synx_hm: 'lshw -c video' check the driver=<foo>  part to see currently running driver for the card
[01:33] <Synx_hm> Ben64, thanks do you know what package lshw is part of? i dont seem to have it
[01:34] <sarnold> Synx_hm: someone reported good success with this method last week https://linsomniac.gitlab.io/post/2020-04-09-ubuntu-2004-encrypted-zfs/
[01:34] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, well it's chrome tabs that are taking up all the cpu
[01:34] <sarnold> Synx_hm: it looks way less annoying that the debootstrap approach :)
[01:35] <sarnold> Synx_hm: (though this user did have trouble when the password of choice had bash metachars in it :)
[01:35] <Ben64> cluelessperson_: yes, i had the same experience
[01:35] <Ben64> Synx_hm: sudo apt install lshw :)
[01:36] <sarnold> Synx_hm: lspci -v also incldues eg "Kernel driver in use:" but that doesn't describe the xorg drivers..
[01:38] <Synx_hm> Ben64; forgive my stupidity tried 'apt install lshw' right away but without sudo DOH
[01:39] <Synx_hm> driver=nouveau
[01:39] <Synx_hm> any idea if thats the opensource driver?
[01:40] <Synx_hm> perhaps i should google ha
[01:40] <Synx_hm> yup appears to be the opensource driver version
[01:41] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, how di dyou solve it?
[01:41] <Ben64> turned off hw acceleration on both chome and discord
[01:41] <Ben64> I haven't been able to get the cpu usage to spike since then, but i'm not 100% sure it's fixed
[01:41] <Ben64> it's at the very least better than it was
[01:42] <Synx_hm> sarnold, ill check out that guide thanks for the heads up, i mostly used the zfs on linux github wiki for how to do it minus encryption, just had to fix an error in their initramfs update bit
[01:42] <Ben64> Synx_hm: indeed
[01:42] <sarnold> Synx_hm: the wiki guide is wonderful but it took me all night and I made three or four mistakes that took me hours to find and fix :)
[01:43] <Synx_hm> sarnold; amen!!! i botched the efi partition and put it where i had intended to put my swap partition boy was that confusing to sort out
[01:44] <Synx_hm> when i finally fixed it and rebooted to find my efi partition gone i realized what i had done
[01:45] <sarnold> I screwed up , vs . in my crypttab. I think. HOURS.
[01:45] <Synx_hm> ahh you using luks crypt i assume?
[01:45] <sarnold> yeah
[01:45] <Synx_hm> i decided to go with native zfs encryption since the SIMD fixes should be in the 20.04 kernel backports
[01:45] <sarnold> oh nice
[01:46] <sarnold> I did my install on disco, I think, so zfs encryption wasn't yet an option. I'm slightly thinking of redoing my install to get the zfs native encryption instead, but a reinstall is SO MUCH work..
[01:46] <Synx_hm> we'll see how nice it is when i dont f' some other part of this setup haha
[01:46] <sarnold> hehe
[01:47] <Synx_hm> Ben64, thanks for the help!
[01:53] <unknownTX> who can help my mind with scanning and repairing an external exfat drive for errors
[01:53] <unknownTX> so ive been duckduckgoing and just cant get this figured correctly. scanning a usb hard drive for errors and repairing them when the fs is exfat...
[01:55] <sarnold> there's a good chance the only reasonable fsck for exfat is on a windows system
[01:55] <sarnold> if you're doing file recovery, I've had good luck with autopsy / sleuthkit a decade ago; it might be able to work with exfat too
[01:56] <oerheks> never done that on linux with exfat fuse and utils.  and is not in the wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[01:57] <oerheks> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/fsck.exfat.8.html
[01:57] <oerheks> Note that it cannot repair corrupted FS,
[01:57] <oerheks>        it just reports found errors.
[01:59] <genii> exfat driver git says it can fix some things since v1.3.0 Sept 2018
[01:59] <genii> !info exfat-utils
[01:59] <oerheks> yes, i read that as limited.
[02:00] <genii> oerheks: Maybe FreeDOS
[02:00] <sarnold> o_O
[02:01] <sarnold> that would surprise me greatly :)
[02:06] <unknownTX> thanks, i cant wait to just get that exfat out of my life
[02:07] <unknownTX> i was trying to fix it in a windows in virtualbox but that was just problematic with getting the drive mounted and last attempt at scanning was like 370 hours.. that cannot be correct
[02:09] <sarnold> if the drive itself is bad, it might be spending forever trying to read and re-read sectors over and over again
[02:10] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, oh that's what I did
[02:10] <cluelessperson_> just now
[02:10] <cluelessperson_> and it seems fixed
[02:11] <sarnold> Ben64,cluelessperson_, woo :) wonderful
[02:12] <Ben64> yay
[02:12] <Ben64> also, boo bug
[02:13] <unknownTX> man no verbose mode for exfatfsck
[02:13] <unknownTX> so it sits there and i dont know what its doing...
[02:13] <unknownTX> exfatfsck checks an exFAT file system for errors. It can repair some of them.
[02:15] <sarnold> you could run vmstat 1 to see how much reads and writes are going on; or try biotop-bpfcc https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/tools/biotop_example.txt to see which processes are doing io
[02:16] <unknownTX>  thanks
[02:18] <ahmedamerican> am using Ubuntu server 20.04, I've installed ExpressVPN on it but the SSH session got disconnect once i connect to VPN, how can i allow SSH while server connected to VPN and persist it if i reboot the server?
[02:19] <sarnold> ahmedamerican: that sounds like your vpn routes supercede the route you were using for ssh
[02:19] <unknownTX> it just finished scanning a 2TB drive with 650GB full and said no errors but a windows program said there was...
[02:19] <sarnold> ahmedamerican: there's a few approaches: (a) if the ssh connection shouldn't be using the VPN, then reconfigure the VPN so it doesn't publish that wide a route, and use a narrower route
[02:20] <sarnold> ahmedamerican: (b) replace ssh with mosh, which can probably cope, because it's using disconnected UDP packets and both endpoints try to contact the other endpoint often -- and will CHANGE endpoints, if necessary, to stay attached
[02:21] <smithsr93> Hello, I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and I am trying to run down a few log errors 1)Couldn't parse dbx signatures: -74 2) usb 3-3.4: 2:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x1 tried google search but did not find any recent reference due to release of 20.04
[02:21] <ahmedamerican> sarnold alright, i will have a look into that now
[02:22] <ahmedamerican> Thank you
[02:29] <Synx_hm> Ben64, any idea why x isn't taking my driver update, lshw still shows the old driver, the xorg.conf does not however and ive rebooted
[02:29] <Synx_hm> if its better to just ask another question i can do that too
[02:33] <Synx_hm> oh do i need to be running a hwe kernel
[02:33] <Ben64> Synx_hm: maybe ask the channel, i'm gonna be in and out tonight
[02:33] <Synx_hm> rgr thanks
[02:33] <Ben64> but see if you can load the module yourself, "sudo modprobe nvidia"
[03:02] <agris> Does anybody here have a Cisco account and would be willing to help me get some firmware files?
[03:04] <genii> agris: That's not an Ubuntu support issue. Maybe try ##hardware channel
[03:26] <rdh> Hello, i have a package that requires qt4 gui... i tried installing libqtgui4, but i guess it is no longer in the package manager... how can i get this installed.
[03:28] <leftyfb> rdh: what release of Ubuntu?
[03:29] <rdh> 20.04
[03:32] <leftyfb> rdh: looks like you might want qt4-x11
[03:32] <leftyfb> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/qt4-x11
[03:32] <rdh> yea i do not have that in my package list
[03:33] <rdh> I do not have any of the packages in that list actually...
[03:34] <rdh> Oh ya... at the bottom says there is no release for it
[03:34] <leftyfb> oh, my bad
[03:34] <leftyfb> Sorry, I'm not sure
[03:35] <rdh> maybe i can use another tree
[03:35] <rdh> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4:4.8.7+dfsg-7ubuntu3
[03:36] <rdh> maybe i can just manually install
[03:42] <rdh> ya, looks like ill build it from source
[03:52] <makesart> Hello. I'm hoping someone can assist.     I was upgrading Ubuntu Studio 19.10 to 20.04 via bash. Toward the end, on a file compare I clumsily bumped a wrong key and lost the upgrade process from the screen. I have the PID (shows locked), how can I restore it to the screen or finish it? I don't have screen, retty or reptyr installed. Can anyone
[03:52] <makesart> help? Thanks.
[03:56] <agris> Would someone with a cisco account mind providing some firmware files for me?
[04:10] <Synx_hm> Having some issues with the nvidia-driver for X. I've installed the latest driver, and blacklisted the old opensource modules and updated initramfs but nothing i do seems to keep X from using the nouveau drivers
[04:23] <Haxxa> I'll be honest Ubuntu 20.04 has been the buggy release I have ever dealt with: Bugs noticed: deluge is broken to TLS 1.1 use and Python 3.8 incompatibility, sudo causes errors under LXC containers, ubuntu also has host binding issues under lxc containers. Strange to have so many bugs in an LTS
[04:23] <Haxxa> *buggiest
[04:24] <guiverc> Haxxa, are those issues reported on a Bug tracker?  Devs can only fix reported bugs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs)
[04:25] <Haxxa> guiverc I fixed them myself they are reported upstream
[04:25] <guiverc> Thank you for reporting them !
[04:25] <Haxxa> Like newest Deluge app  works using dev branch and disabling TLS 1.1
[04:26] <Haxxa> TLS requirement is interesting as it breaks deluge and error message is less thean helpful
[04:27] <Haxxa> I don't know how Ubuntu dev works but are packages adding to repo early if issue is breaking application entirely
[04:28] <ahmedamerican> how to save that ip rule and routes https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xW733kBYCv/ to /etc/iptables/rules.v4 ? i tried to put the rules before commit word but it's not make any effect to the system
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> Haxxa: every Os has bugs worked on, also keep in mind its yourself that has chosen to install 20.04 early instead of waiting for the LTS way when 20.04.1 comes out
[04:30] <guiverc> Haxxa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule shows schedule and various freeze dates, bug reports (launchpad for ubuntu bugs) are used to make devs aware; but deluge for example is 'universe' so someone needs to be told to grab & implement patch via bug report; or request to upgrade package generally
[04:40] <aaron_m> If I have a separate /home partition, is it safe to run the ubuntu 18.04 installer to downgrade from 20.04? As in, reinstall the OS on / but leave /home alone.
[04:40] <Lvl4Sword> Trying to assist someone that has Ubuntu 20.04 LTS installed and they get ... The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/iaz/battery-status/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file.
[04:41] <Lvl4Sword> What should the next steps be here?
[04:46] <r2b2nz> Lvl4Sword: It's from 2015 but it probably still applies given that PPA hasn't been updated since 2011 :) https://askubuntu.com/questions/609045/unable-to-update-battery-status-ppa
[04:47] <Lvl4Sword> I was just about to post https://launchpad.net/~iaz/+archive/ubuntu/battery-status :D
[04:47] <Lvl4Sword> Which looks rather old, as you said
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> Lvl4Sword: reccomended to install software from the official ubuntu repos
[04:48] <ahmedamerican> can you please guide me with that ? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/583005/ubuntu-presist-ip-rules-and-routes
[04:48] <r2b2nz> I haven't used a laptop with Ubuntu but pretty sure there's already a built-in battery status provided anyway these days?
[04:48] <Lvl4Sword> They said they didn't install it, so I'm not sure where they got it from
[04:48] <Lvl4Sword> But yeah, that's some old software
[04:51] <Lvl4Sword> r2b2nz, Appreciate the assistance! Thanks for your help
[04:51] <Intelo> For ubuntu compatibility, Which cheapest graphics card have multi display heads and can have multiseat?
[05:04] <cluelessperson_> Ben64, no lag still. :D
[05:34] <snappy> I have ubuntu 18.04 LTS, when I run do-release-upgrade it says there are no LTS versions I can upgrade to? I was hoping to upgrade to 20.04 LTS
[05:36] <StevenJayCohen> My finger slipped while using aptitude. I didn't delete everything, but I seem to have marked just about everything for removal or something, now when running apt autoremove, I see this: https://pastebin.com/StZ9aeiH
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | snappy
[05:37] <StevenJayCohen> snappy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr3HA3jw1vg
[05:37] <marcoagpinto> lotuspsychje: The latest updates for 20.04 fixed the .deb files
[05:37] <marcoagpinto> :)
[05:37] <marcoagpinto> I have just tested it
[05:43] <snappy> Thanks
[05:53] <aaron_m> If I have a separate /home partition, is it safe to run the ubuntu 18.04 installer to downgrade from 20.04? As in, reinstall the OS on / but leave /home alone.
[06:00] <DarwinElf> on 18.04 w/apache2, should I have seen other directories in /var/www , like /var/www/icons , or were they all removed?
[06:16] <mesaboogie> StevenJayCohen: synaptics -> edit -> unmark all
[06:16] <mesaboogie> synaptic*
[06:20] <securerootd> Hello
[06:37] <proceEd> Hello. I have an ubuntu webserver on AWS that runs PHP. when configuring my PHP version in bash I have it set to 7.4.5 but when I use phpinfo() function on a webpage it says I am running 7.2. What gives with that?
[06:46] <ttytwister> Hello. I've got one SSD with Ubuntu 18.04 installed. This disk is fully encrypted (special option during Ubuntu installation). Now I've bought another SSD. I want it to be encrypted too with the same password. BUT, I want Ubuntu to ask me for the password only once - during computer launching. It is possible?
[06:51] <feisar> ttytwister: I'm pretty sure I've done that in the past but can't remember the details. You'll need to understand LUKS and the cryptsetup command (and probably LVM too)
[07:05] <enkindle> is server 20.04 not available for upgrading 18.04 yet?
[07:06] <guiverc> enkindle, the 18.04 -> 20.04 upgrade isn't offered for LTS users until after 20.04.1 is released, as LTS users usually want stability.  (it's not ISO release either, but a few days usually after)
[07:09] <zhanx> enkindle, you can force it if you want to be cutting edge and maybe break stuff
[07:11] <enkindle> ooh, i thought i read something that it was released, my bad
[07:11] <enkindle> dont manage your stuff stoned, it...it's bad
[07:11] <zhanx> lol its all good
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> enkindle: a good aproach is a spare box to test the next LTS versions new features, and keep your other machines stable the LTS way
[07:19] <enkindle> aye, i was gonna update a secondary, but ill wait for a full release
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> yeah upgrade in production is great how guiverc explained
[07:20] <enkindle> lol if you knew how much we do in production that we shouldnt...ugh
[07:25] <vlt> ttytwister: Fairly easy: You can have up to 8 password slots in a LUKS header. Put the same password as for your first LUKS device in one slot. Then create a random key file, use it for a second slot, put it somewhere on your main file system and edit /etc/crypttab accordingly.
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> enkindle: feel free to idle around #ubuntu-server always handy to have helping volunteers in the server business
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> proceEd: for you too, try #ubuntu-server cool helping channel
[07:27] <vlt> ttytwister: (The first slot password thing is only to meet your "encrypted with the same password" requirement.)
[07:27] <enkindle> hahah, im not sure i should be giving advice
[07:28] <enkindle> i've completly broken the machine i was going to upgrade
[07:28] <enkindle> apparently i didn't reinstall grub after setting up mdadm and now it wont boot
[07:28] <enkindle> so that's fun
[07:29] <neure> hi
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> enkindle: i meant it the way around, if you need help sometime :p
[07:29] <enkindle> ahhhh
[07:37] <jackhum> recently during do-release upgrade -d command , my network failed to download all the packages.  Now i am getting install all the updates before running this command , can anyone tell me how can i resume my package downloads for jumping from 18.04 to 20.04 lts
[07:37] <FH_thecat> where can I get the ubuntu netboot images for PXE install
[07:37] <FH_thecat> for the new Ubuntu 20.04
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | jackhum try this, see if apt spits out errors
[07:40] <jackhum> lotuspsychje: during apt upgrade i am getting a lot of packages which need to be upgraded and it shows about 700 MB of downloads, but the problem is , my internet connection got broken during release upgrade -d command . now i am scared if i do upgrade, wouldnt it break my system by installing some packages?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> jackhum: does your connection work again right now?
[07:53] <StatelessCat> Hi
[07:55] <enkindle> great, i think my fstab is busted
[07:58] <RattleBattle79> Will ZFS be the default filesystem for Ubunt 22.04? The  ZFS snapshot feature with apt install seems to be the start of something awesome
[08:03] <ducasse> probably not, but way too early to tell
[08:04] <feisar> I'm really intrigued by the auto healing, I'd like to try it out on my home server
[08:05] <feisar> (of silent corruption)
[08:06] <solarliner> Hi, I have a problem with 20.04 - I installed the new version fresh (no upgrade from 19.10) and my computer seems to freeze when about to go to sleep. I can reproduce the behavior by manually suspending the laptop while "lock on suspend" and "automatically lock the screen" parameters are on, however when they're off, manual suspending and resuming works correctly, but automatic suspend still results in the computer freezing
[08:08] <solarliner> I don't really know how to start troubleshooting the issue since when it freezes, the screen is off
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> feisar: ubuntu server?
[08:10] <feisar> lotuspsychje: yeah
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> feisar: try #ubuntu-server
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> solarliner: what you can do is leave a: journalctl -f open and see what happens, and share a pastebin of your dmesg here to the volunteers
[08:13] <solarliner> I wouldn't be able to see that when the freeze happens though
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> solarliner: see also /var/crash logs there's always something to trace somewhere
[08:16] <solarliner> Hm, I am seeing appimagelauncherd crashing a lot though
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> solarliner: installed manual from git?
[08:17] <solarliner> No, using the bionic deb from AppImageLauncher
[08:21] <solarliner> hm, so it's not an issue related to 20.04 https://github.com/TheAssassin/AppImageLauncher/issues/304
[08:21] <solarliner> Anyway I'll disable it and see if that solves the issue (unlikely I think, but worth a shot)
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> solarliner: could you share your dmesg please? suspend issues can also be acpi related
[08:25] <solarliner> Not sure how readable it's going to be, but here goes: https://pastebin.com/F2BC4wED
[08:27] <Exagone313> Hi, is there an official Ubuntu documentation page that tells that upgrading from previous LTS should wait for the point release (3 months after "final" release)?  It seems to be common belief but I don't see a page in the wiki about that.  PointRelease is a dead link on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[08:28] <Exagone313> I believe that graphical update manager doesn't make the upgrade but I can't check myself
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !acpi | solarliner
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> solarliner: another idea is to test suspend on a new user just as a test
[08:31] <solarliner> Not sure how I can update my BIOS, actually haven't searched for it, but I can definitely try a new user now
[08:31] <solarliner> brb
[08:37] <solarliner> lotuspsychje: I can definitely suspend/resume with another user, thanks for the idea! So it seems it's related to my user configuration then
[08:37] <solarliner> That makes the AppImage daemon issue the most likely cause
[08:56] <n3wt0n> what is the directory of trash?
[09:04] <mra90> where is the dictionary.txt file on ununtu?
[09:04] <mra90> the checkpatch.pl is asking for it under /usr/share/codespell/dictionary.txt
[09:08] <zhanx> mra90, is codespell installed?
[09:10] <mra90> zhanx, not sure
[09:10] <mra90> probably not
[09:10] <zhanx> well sudo apt install codespell and it should install all this https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/codespell/filelist
[09:10] <mra90> but how is that this works on windows but doesn't on ubuntu
[09:11] <zhanx> two different systems
[09:11] <zhanx> way way different
[09:11] <mra90> but the same screept
[09:11] <mra90> script sory
[09:11] <zhanx> same front end to you yes
[09:11] <mra90> I mean checkpatch.pl is what it is no matter the OS
[09:11] <zhanx> read the file in an editor and say thatt
[09:11] <zhanx> that*
[09:12] <mra90> okay it probably distinguish between different systems
[09:13] <ren0v0> Hi, I'm trying to boot 20.04 USB but it's crashing laptop (turning it off)
[09:14] <ren0v0> It gets to screen where it says something about checking disk, then dies, is this a known bug?
[09:14] <zhanx> ren0v0, efi boot?
[09:15] <ren0v0> my laptop has 18.04 on it, and its in legacy mode, secure boot is off
[09:15] <zhanx> what make the bootable usb?
[09:15] <zhanx> made/make/how
[09:15] <ren0v0> sandisk
[09:15] <ren0v0> ubuntu startup disk creator
[09:16] <zhanx> try unetbootin
[09:16] <ren0v0> ok sure
[09:16] <ren0v0> used it planty of times before but also used this default ubuntu one
[09:16] <zhanx> same here but never once got a startup disk creator to work here
[09:17] <ren0v0> :D
[09:17] <ren0v0> ok brb
[09:17] <zhanx> waiting the 3d printer so will be here
[09:27] <ren0v0> zhanx, it says "missing operating system, selected boot device failed" ?
[09:28] <zhanx> micro sd card?
[09:28] <ren0v0> nope
[09:28] <ren0v0> let me try once more formatting it first
[09:28] <zhanx> gparted wipe it
[09:29] <ren0v0> yea i am
[09:29] <ren0v0> msdos ext4
[09:29] <zhanx> no
[09:29] <zhanx> fat32
[09:29] <zhanx> whole thing
[09:30] <ren0v0> still think this is 20.04 issue
[09:30] <ren0v0> it was loading and crashed, and i've done this 100 times before
[09:30] <zhanx> might ne
[09:30] <zhanx> be
[09:31] <guiverc> ren0v0, I'd trying booting the thumb-drive on another box (and only try ubuntu), if it fails on the other box too (validation) I'd assume it was a bad write, or flawed ISO (did you verify ISO checksum)?
[09:31] <guiverc> s/I'd/I'd be/ ^
[09:31] <ren0v0> guiverc, i've not even got to the "install or try" screen yet!
[09:32] <zhanx> aka guiverc verify checksum?
[09:33] <ren0v0> guiverc, md5 checks out
[09:34] <genhaoqi> md5sum xxx
[09:34] <ren0v0> ya
[09:34] <ren0v0> ea28c4fd933be55f9f01a5fa9e868490 *ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[09:34] <guiverc> yes, if the second box does exactly the same thing - I'd bet the thumb-drive or ISO write to thumb-drive failed..
[09:34] <ren0v0> guiverc, well this will be 4th write to USB drive, so lets see
[09:34] <ren0v0> if not i'll grab another
[09:35] <guiverc> if you boot the thumb-drive on the other box and it's flawless; it's something specific to the box you want to install it on
[09:35] <ren0v0> yea i get that but i can't shutdown this box right now
[09:35] <ren0v0> i have another laptop actually so can try that, but will rule out the USB drive first
[09:35] <genhaoqi> can not shutdown?
[09:35] <ren0v0> nope :)
[09:36] <CrazySam> What software is responsible for displaying upgrade details in Ubuntu terminal?
[09:36] <ren0v0> no need to go into the reason, i just can't right now
[09:36] <genhaoqi> cut down the power
[09:36] <ren0v0> CrazySam, software-properties-common ?
[09:37] <CrazySam> Continue [yN]  Details [d]
[09:38] <CrazySam> This is the prompt I get.
[09:38] <ren0v0> for what ?
[09:38] <CrazySam> Upgrade
[09:38] <ren0v0> i'm not sure what the question is
[09:38] <CrazySam> do-release-upgrade
[09:38] <ren0v0> correct, if you want to upgrade press y :)
[09:38] <genhaoqi> d for details
[09:38] <CrazySam> Well I'm curious how it opens this new detail page.
[09:39] <ren0v0> it'll be in terminal the output
[09:39] <CrazySam> I press d and some new page opens up.
[09:39] <CrazySam> I have to press q to quit.
[09:39] <CrazySam> Is that Nano?
[09:39] <genhaoqi> then?
[09:39] <ren0v0> part of software-properties i would assume
[09:39] <CrazySam> OK
[09:39] <ren0v0> no idea what you are on about tbh :D does it matter?
[09:40] <CrazySam> It does not. Just curious how it is able to do what it does. :)
[09:40] <geirha> Perhaps it was less, the pager?
[09:40] <ren0v0> could be ncurses, i've not seen the screen ebfore
[09:40] <CrazySam> Does the Terminal itself have a text editor?
[09:40] <ren0v0> there are lots of text editors
[09:40] <genhaoqi> no,that just a press
[09:40] <genhaoqi> use q to quit
[09:40] <genhaoqi> like vim
[09:41] <genhaoqi> but not a editors
[09:41] <CrazySam> Yeah it remind me of vim.
[09:41] <CrazySam> ":q"
[09:41] <enkindle> Ok, so, i fucked up converting my main drive to mdadm raid, didn't update my fstab. I booted with a live cd, got the fstab set up, managed to boot in maintience console. updated grub
[09:41] <enkindle> but now it always boots to maintience console
[09:41] <genhaoqi> how to quit vim is a big problem :)
[09:42] <guiverc> language please enkindle
[09:42] <geirha> inedeed, almost as hard as quiting emacs
[09:42] <enkindle> sorry
[09:42] <zhanx> what did enkindle say wrong?
[09:43] <genhaoqi> did u remove the cd?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | zhanx
[09:43] <zhanx> oh so you need to thought police him?
[09:43] <martiansoul> how to install GraphicsMagick++  on ubuntu ?
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: please only ubuntu questions here
[09:44] <CrazySam> The view I get when I press "d" for details (Continue [yN]  Details [d]) is something like a text editor, like vim. But I can't edit anything. It lists packages that will be upgraded and packages that will be installed (new=?)
[09:44] <zhanx> lotuspsychje, that word is not in the guidelines
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: come join to #ubuntu-discuss if you want to discuss it
[09:45] <geirha> CrazySam: still sounds like the pager, less
[09:45] <zhanx> or we agree that the guidelines are there and you enforce the words they don't allow as they wrote out and call it good
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: stop
[09:45] <geirha> try  less ~/.bashrc  to see if it looks the same
[09:45] <guiverc> enkindle, I can't help sorry, but the only thing I can think of is that you still have issues in your fstab
[09:45] <genhaoqi> martiansoul: sudo apt install xxx
[09:45] <ren0v0> genhaoqi, just crashing still :(
[09:45] <ren0v0> do i need to enable secure boot ?
[09:45] <guiverc> please stay on-topic zhanx
[09:46] <zhanx> i was on topic per your comment guiverc unless your comment was not on topic and outside the guidelines
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> !discuss > zhanx
[09:46] <CrazySam> geirha: package name?
[09:47] <geirha> CrazySam: which package installs less, you mean?  check with   dpkg -S bin/less
[09:47] <genhaoqi> less is a only read vim
[09:48] <geirha> yeah, which fits with CrazySam's descriptions so far
[09:48] <zhanx> !discuss > lotuspsychje
[09:48] <CrazySam> OK
[09:48] <MdAyq0> Dear all, any idea why xpdf has been removed from focal?
[09:48] <ren0v0> genhaoqi, trying new USB
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | MdAyq0
[09:49] <ren0v0> guys why are you all discussing this and not just asking for a damn screenshot
[09:49] <ren0v0> would save a lot of time.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> language ren0v0
[09:49] <ren0v0> :D:D
[09:49] <ren0v0> "criticize strongly."  this is not bad language
[09:50] <zhanx> MdAyq0, xpdf has some bug issue per their ppa is why they did not make it
[09:50] <amcsi> help, only my external HDMI monitor of my laptop is recognized. I can't set it to use both my external and internal monitor. Displays settings doesn't show the option to use both.
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> ren0v0: feel free to discuss it in #ubuntu-discuss
[09:50] <CrazySam> I accidently aborted upgrade with Ctrl+C. Now when I run do-release-upgrade I hit a roadblock that tells me to use pat to update my current release before upgrading to new release. I already did... so now I'm using apt to upgrade.
[09:50] <ren0v0> lotuspsychje, tell them to go there, i am here with a genuine issue
[09:50] <ren0v0> not discussing text editors
[09:51] <geirha> MdAyq0: The most common reason for a package to disappear is when its sources are no longer maintained. Don't know if that's the case for xpdf though. Haven't checked
[09:51] <zhanx> CrazySam, output?
[09:51] <CrazySam> The behavior is now different regarding listing of packages to update or upgrade. They are printed immediately in terminal. So there is no prompt to view details [d].
[09:51] <genhaoqi> amcsi: no copy mode?
[09:51] <amcsi> genhaoqi, what's that?
[09:51] <MdAyq0> @zhanx Do you mean https://launchpad.net/~francis-russell/+archive/ubuntu/xpdf ?
[09:52] <CrazySam> do-release-upgrade? Is this what you guys use to upgrade?
[09:52] <CrazySam> Or you use apt?
[09:52] <genhaoqi> amcsi: can you let you two screen display the same thing?
[09:52] <ren0v0> CrazySam, why does it matter? you've not explained any problem here
[09:53] <ren0v0> just your curiosities
[09:53] <zhanx> MdAyq0, yes but not that link
[09:53] <amcsi> genhaoqi, no, there's no option. it's like my internal monitor is not recognized at all. Also before it was the other way around. But somehow messing around with things I got only my external monitor to be recognized
[09:54] <CrazySam> ren0v0: well one could be more reliable than the other.
[09:54] <MdAyq0> @zhanx I thought so. That ppa is dead since 2012, and I don't see others.
[09:54] <amcsi> genhaoqi, xrandr also only shows my external monitor currently
[09:54] <ren0v0> you're doing the correct method, just press y and be done with it
[09:55] <ren0v0> you've backed up everything so there should be no problem
[09:55] <zhanx> lotuspsychje, less internet janitor and more helping for the newer people, you know its a release thing
[09:55] <CrazySam> Yes, I did and it's upgrading now. 42%
[09:55] <ren0v0> zhanx, +1
[09:55] <zhanx> CrazySam, what is the, ok its working right?
[09:55] <genhaoqi> amcsi: do you computer have dual Graphics card? maybe the driver
[09:56] <CrazySam> zhanx: it's very slow... but yes, it's getting firefox now.
[09:56] <genhaoqi> the nvidia card always has a lot of problems
[09:57] <CrazySam> afk
[09:57] <zhanx> amsci what is the pastebin or whatever of lspci
[09:57] <amcsi> genhaoqi, no, and I had no problems in my previous Ubuntu 19.04 installation. Now that I installed a clean version of Ubuntu 20.04 (but backing up and restoring my /home files), I get the problems I said
[09:58] <genhaoqi> amcsi: oh, this is 20.04, maybe you sould wait for some time
[09:59] <genhaoqi> new edition, new problem
[09:59] <amcsi> X_X
[09:59] <zhanx> amcsi what is the pastebin or whatever of lspci
[09:59] <ren0v0> genhaoqi, zhanx nope it's not working. It only gets to the new ubuntu splash screen pre-install and says "checking disks 0%" then the laptop shuts down. This is not a USB or write/read issue
[09:59] <ren0v0> so, what now?
[09:59] <zhanx> ren0v0, smart boot on?
[10:00] <zhanx> lets go over the bios options ren0v0
[10:00] <ren0v0> zhanx, no it says "legacy boot, secure boot = off"
[10:00] <ren0v0> zhanx, this laptop has ubuntu 18.04 on it, i want to install 20.04 alongside with FDE
[10:00] <amcsi> zhanx, https://pastebin.com/MnNpjHAJ
[10:01] <zhanx> amcsi, turn on restricted drivers
[10:01] <zhanx> ren0v0, what laptop again
[10:01] <ren0v0> XPS 15 9260 i think
[10:01] <ren0v0> 9360*
[10:01] <amcsi> zhanx, how do I do that?
[10:02] <amcsi> I am using the latest NVIDIA driver according to the "Additional Drivers" tab
[10:02] <ren0v0> zhanx, my boot options, secureboot = off, boot list option (legacy is ticked not UEFI),
[10:03] <zhanx> tick the UEFI
[10:03] <ren0v0> so turn secure boot on ?
[10:03] <zhanx> amcsi, your VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation UHD Graphics 630 (Mobile) is internal
[10:03] <zhanx> ren0v0, might as well
[10:03] <zhanx> just boot it ren0v0 no install
[10:04] <zhanx> amcsi, pm
[10:05] <MdAyq0> @zhanx None of the bugs in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xpdf/+bugs seem any critical whatsoever...
[10:05] <ducasse> ren0v0: if 18.04 is installed in legacy mode and you switch to uefi you will not be able to boot it until you've installed grub for uefi systems
[10:05] <ren0v0> ducasse, so why am i switching ?
[10:05] <zhanx> MdAyq0, we didn't make that choice
[10:06] <ren0v0> zhanx, ducasse nope it just crashed again upon checking filesystem
[10:06] <zhanx> ren0v0, i would wait on the iso then
[10:06] <zhanx> or
[10:07] <zhanx> install a second 18.04 and force upgrade
[10:07] <ren0v0> wait on the ISO ?
[10:07] <zhanx> 20.04.1
[10:08] <ren0v0> meh
[10:08] <zhanx> ren0v0, think about it, 18.04 works for you right? so add a second one. force the update and use it
[10:10] <ren0v0> true
[10:10] <ducasse> ren0v0: right when it starts the consistency check, press ctrl+c
[10:10] <ren0v0> ducasse, i did consider that, but also thought hmm thats maybe a bad idea
[10:10] <zhanx> ren0v0, it will check it later also
[10:10] <ducasse> not if the image is good
[10:11] <ren0v0> trying now
[10:11] <ren0v0> no doesn't let me do it ducasse
[10:11] <zap0> is there some command like:  sudo apt generate-install-list   that will output all the things i've installed?
[10:12] <zhanx> ren0v0, get rid of the box on your thinking
[10:12] <zhanx> you wasted all this time on a bad install etc
[10:12] <yuradoc> hello. am i able upgrade kubuntu somehow from 19.10 to 20.04 or it's not yet ready?
[10:12] <ren0v0> i'm already writing 18.04
[10:12] <ren0v0> but still, it shouldn't be broken :)
[10:12] <ducasse> zhanx: dpkg --get-selections or apt list --installed
[10:13] <zhanx> zap0, apt list --installed
[10:13] <zhanx> or as ducasse said zap0
[10:13] <zap0> thanks.   i read some release notes that said i might need a reinstall,  upgrade will fail
[10:14] <zhanx> yuradoc, do you use the computer daily?
[10:14] <zhanx> yuradoc, did you do a full backup
[10:15] <ren0v0> zhanx, before i do this then, is there a way to install two instances of ubuntu on this laptop from scratch, manual partitioning needed or can ubuntu installer handle shrinking of existing partitions?
[10:15] <zhanx> yes
[10:16] <ren0v0> which one :D
[10:16] <yuradoc> zhanx, yes. it always updated
[10:17] <zhanx> ren0v0, it can
[10:17] <ren0v0> thanks
[10:17] <zhanx> yuradoc, then the choice is yours
[10:17] <yuradoc> i don't do ful backup always
[10:17] <zhanx> yuradoc, do one first
[10:18] <zhanx> you are using new stuff its not 100% right, just do a back up
[10:18] <yuradoc> don't understand
[10:19] <yuradoc> i'm linux user more than 10 years
[10:19] <zhanx> ducasse, does the channel have a layout for /home etc?
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:19] <zhanx> yuradoc, cool, i backed up and ran the upgrade had 2 minor issues with bluetooth and that was it
[10:21] <yuradoc> i don't need bluetooth
[10:21] <yuradoc> i have messages that there are no new realeases
[10:21] <yuradoc> do anybody have such thing?
[10:21] <ducasse> zhanx: what do you mean?
[10:21] <zhanx> use the -d flag yuradoc
[10:22] <zhanx> ducasse, for not losing their user data etc
[10:22] <yuradoc> but that's not stable flag, right?
[10:22] <zhanx> its not correct yuradoc
[10:22] <zhanx> the stable will be 20.04.1
[10:23] <yuradoc> really?
[10:23] <ducasse> zhanx: in most cases we suggest using the default layout, for more advanced users a separate /home is a good idea imo. no channel guidelines for it.
[10:24] <HeuZen> Hello
[10:24] <yuradoc> i thought that it's like any release in april or october
[10:24] <ducasse> 20.04 is about as stable as any regular release
[10:24] <HeuZen> Q: Following in
[10:25] <yuradoc> ok
[10:25] <zhanx> see amcclure i was right!
[10:25] <zhanx> amcsi, not amcclure
[10:26] <zhanx> tab fail
[10:26] <HeuZen> Q: Following is my dsik layout: NVME for root and var - SSD for Home and tmp - HDD for Cold Data. I would like to encrypt it with LUKS, 3 Container with LVM inside. Is it possible? Or do I have to build LUKS Over LVM?
[10:27] <zhanx> HeuZen, end goal of that?
[10:27] <HeuZen> :) - I would like to have all disks encrypted. Especially the One for Cold Data
[10:27] <yuradoc> do-release-upgrade -d, --devel-release
[10:27] <yuradoc> so it's dev version
[10:28] <HeuZen> End goal: get everything opened during boot with crypttab
[10:29] <zhanx> LVM then LUKS
[10:29] <HeuZen> ok, that's what I thought, thx for your quick reaction
[10:29] <Exagone313> Hi, is there an official Ubuntu documentation page that tells that upgrading from previous LTS should wait for the point release (3 months after "final" release) aka 20.04.1?  It seems to be common belief but I don't see a page in the wiki about that.  PointRelease is a dead link on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule  I believe that graphical update manager doesn't make the upgrade but I can't check myself.
[10:30] <CrazySam> I upgraded Disco to Eoan using sudo apt upgrade and now it's done and rebooted and I only see a flashing input cursor.
[10:30] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | Exagone313
[10:30] <Exagone313> ducasse: it's still not a wiki page
[10:30] <ducasse> Exagone313: not sure where that's from
[10:31] <CrazySam> Ctrl + Alt + Del reboots it and makes Ubuntu splash to appear shortly.
[10:31] <zhanx> Exagone313, they are human after all
[10:31] <Exagone313> I'm looking for documentation that I link to people suggesting to upgrade too soon
[10:31] <Exagone313> that I can link*
[10:32] <DocMors> CrazySam, try to boot into a console and check your log file. Last time that happened to me the display manager had an issue.
[10:32] <CrazySam> TTY?
[10:33] <DocMors> es
[10:33] <Siecje> I installed docker but on reboot it is not running. I get this message. ERROR: Couldn't connect to Docker daemon - you might need to run `docker-machine start default`.
[10:33] <Siecje>  which then tells me to `docker-machine create`, which fails because VBoxManage is not found.
[10:33] <DocMors> yes
[10:33] <ducasse> CrazySam: that's not the way to upgrade
[10:35] <CrazySam> ducasse: what do you mean?
[10:35] <ducasse> !upgrade | CrazySam
[10:36] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | CrazySam for eol upgrades
[10:38] <CrazySam> ducasse: sudo apt upgrade ?
[10:38] <ducasse> CrazySam: that alone will not get you a new release
[10:38] <CrazySam> ducasse: do-release-upgrade ?
[10:39] <ducasse> CrazySam: yes, do-release-upgrade is the right tool
[10:40] <CrazySam> Yes, but because I aborted it once (by mistake with Ctrl+C) I could not use it second time around. Because it complained I had to update my current release first. Which I did... nothing more to update.
[10:40] <CrazySam> Should not have aborted, yes, I know.
[10:40] <CrazySam> But that's a silly tool if you can't abort and take up where you left off again.
[10:41] <zhanx> CrazySam, whats the fail message? lock codes?
[10:41] <CrazySam> lsb_release -a says I have .
[10:41] <CrazySam> 19.10
[10:41] <CrazySam> I downloaded over 800 M
[10:41] <CrazySam> Over 1000 packages.
[10:42] <CrazySam> Gtk warning: cannot open display
[10:43] <anirban> Hi, whenever my screen goes to sleep and I resume (lock screen) my screen starts blinking every 3-5 seconds. It goes completely black (probably turns off) for in the order of microseconds. Happens with Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch & Manjaro. Have not tried other distros. GPU is Amd picasso/Nvidia 1650. Using AMD for X11, but is present if I use nvidia too by prime-select scripts. Desktop environments Gnome X11/Wayland and KDE X11. Please help.
[10:53] <ducasse> CrazySam: try running 'sudo apt install -f'
[10:53] <zhanx> ducasse, the apt process is till open for him
[10:54] <CrazySam> https://i.imgur.com/WOKP6sR.png
[10:54] <CrazySam> please install all available updates for your release before upgrading
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> Exagone313: here's an alinea about it from will cooke, the 3 months waiting are for fixing critical bugs: https://ubuntu.com/blog/first-point-release-of-18-04-lts-available-today
[10:59] <ducasse> CrazySam: 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade'
[11:01] <CrazySam> ducasse: 11 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[11:01] <CrazySam> need to get 2 537 kb of archives
[11:01] <CrazySam> Y/n?
[11:01] <ducasse> yes
[11:02] <CrazySam> zhanx: do this first?
[11:02] <zhanx> yes
[11:03] <ren0v0> zhanx, I'
[11:03] <ren0v0> I'm struggling to even install 18.04!! also crashing
[11:03] <ren0v0> i wonder if its graphics related
[11:04] <CrazySam> https://i.imgur.com/BraZD8o.png
[11:04] <ren0v0> trying safe graphics mode install on 18.04 now
[11:04] <ren0v0> CrazySam, its a warning
[11:06] <CrazySam> No worries then?
[11:06] <zhanx> ren0v0, test your ram
[11:06] <ren0v0> lots of PCIe and nvme errors that i noticed
[11:06] <CrazySam> I have upgraded to 19.10 but I can't get back in after rebooting.
[11:06] <ren0v0> but now i'm at the installer
[11:07] <ducasse> CrazySam: try do-release-upgrade
[11:07] <ren0v0> zhanx, i'm considering installing over the top of existing install now and installing 20.04 again alongside it. Will the second install be able to resize LVM?
[11:08] <zhanx> no
[11:08] <zhanx> you never stated lvm at the start also
[11:08] <ren0v0> yea i said FDE
[11:08] <ren0v0> what else would it use ?
[11:08] <ren0v0> so you can't have an encrypted install and non-encrypted install ?
[11:08] <ren0v0> or two encrypted installs?
[11:09] <CrazySam> ducasse: it's already upgraded, something else is off.
[11:09] <zhanx> isn't FDE arch ?
[11:09] <ren0v0> no full disk encryption
[11:10] <CrazySam> ducasse: I now switch from tty2 to tty1 and I have a mouse pointer. So no more flashing text input cursor.
[11:10] <CrazySam> I can also see the login screen flash 1 second and then all goes black.
[11:10] <zhanx> LVM does not equal full disk encryption
[11:10] <CrazySam> Lemme reboot.
[11:10] <ren0v0> zhanx, well it does because FDE doesn't actually mean full disk
[11:11] <ren0v0> anyway my point and goal is still the same, isn't it achievable with the installer?
[11:13] <CrazySam> I kept switching between tty1 and tty2 until I was able to click my name on the login screen (tty1) and type in every character in my password, and then click the login screen.
[11:14] <CrazySam> I am now in desktop mode but my desktop is not stable.
[11:14] <zhanx> no and why should it be. the hd would be screwed on resize anyways
[11:14] <ren0v0> CrazySam, graphics?
[11:14] <CrazySam> I now get "system program preoblem detected"
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> !language | zhanx
[11:15] <ren0v0> zhanx, i don't mean to offend i appreciate you help but it seems you aren't well verse with LVM and LUKS so lets leave it there
[11:15] <CrazySam> Sorry, Ubuntu 19.10 has experienced an internal error.
[11:15] <zhanx> fine lotuspsychje you help them all i will laugh as i noticed you haven't helped anyone.
[11:15] <ren0v0> they can be resized, just because ubuntu's installer seemingly cannot do it
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: feel free to discuss this at #ubuntu-discuss
[11:16] <zhanx> jannies will jannie
[11:16] <CrazySam> ren0v0: i think not, it's upgrade gone bad or something.
[11:16] <ren0v0> CrazySam, check some logs or something
[11:16] <ducasse> CrazySam: you might want to consider backing up and doing a reinstall
[11:16] <ren0v0> sorry i've not been following the scroll
[11:17] <CrazySam> Can I refresh existing release? Clean up everything properly? Without doing a complete reinstall?
[11:17] <ducasse> CrazySam: not really
[11:17] <ren0v0> CrazySam, explain the actual problem
[11:17] <DigitalisAkujin> Anyone got any tips for how to debug rsyslog randomly stopping every couple days and almost always at around the same time on two web servers in a 50/50 traffic config. Logs a lot from php syslog() function. Turning on debug made 500 mb of debug data in 60 sec so can't do that
[11:17] <ren0v0> you said desktop is not stable, what does that mean ?
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> CrazySam: recoverymode/fix broken packages can sometimes help
[11:18] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: we've fixed the package db
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: oh right
[11:18] <CrazySam> Package: gnome-shell 3.34.3-1ubuntu1~19.10.1
[11:18] <CrazySam> Problem type: crash
[11:18] <CrazySam> Reinstall gnome?
[11:18] <ren0v0> aren't you upgrading to 20.04?
[11:19] <ducasse> CrazySam: which gpu and driver?
[11:19] <CrazySam> no ren0v0
[11:19] <ren0v0> why?
[11:20] <CrazySam> I don't know. Why not 20.04? No particular reason. I did an upgrade from non-LTS so 19.10 is the next best thing.
[11:20] <Exagone313> lotuspsychje: thanks
[11:21] <ren0v0> CrazySam, run upgrade to 20.04
[11:21] <ren0v0> can't harm at this point
[11:21] <ren0v0> backup all your stuff before going further goes without saying, if you haven't already
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> ren0v0: its the users choice to upgrade or not
[11:21] <zhanx> CrazySam, i would help you finish the fix but lotuspsychje thought it necessary to police my words
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: you can keep the offtopic out of this channel please
[11:22] <ren0v0> lotuspsychje, that isn't helping
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: have respect for the users that actually need help
[11:23] <CrazySam> ren0v0: no new release found
[11:23] <zhanx> lotuspsychje, i did till you decided you are god and needed to be thought police on words, guess that front hole is hurting on you
[11:23] <ducasse> CrazySam: you need to use -d at this point
[11:23] <ren0v0> CrazySam, i find it odd that your upgrade went to 19.10 and not 20.04 anyway
[11:24] <ren0v0> CrazySam, i think you're a little too early to the party
[11:24] <ren0v0> :/
[11:24] <ren0v0> they must not be enabled yet
[11:24] <ducasse> CrazySam: or answer my question
[11:24] <CrazySam> -d is doing something now
[11:24] <ren0v0> as ducasse said you can use dev upgrade
[11:24] <ren0v0> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:25] <CrazySam> ren0v0: you can't upgrade non-LTS to LTS can you?
[11:25] <ducasse> yes, you can
[11:25] <BluesKaj> if it's the next release
[11:26] <CrazySam> 1253 packages are going to be upgraded
[11:26] <CrazySam> You have to download a total of 977 M
[11:26] <zhanx> CrazySam's problem was he stopped but did not kill the process
[11:26] <zhanx> https://i.imgur.com/WOKP6sR.png
[11:27] <CrazySam> Getting packages now.
[11:27] <CrazySam> For 20.04 I guess.
[11:27] <ducasse> zhanx: if you read the whole thing you will see that was probably unattended-upgrades running in the background
[11:28] <zhanx> ducasse, which i had him stop also in pm due to the processes he spawned
[11:28] <zhanx> which is weird the unattended started after his upgrade
[11:29] <zhanx> that was paused and should have stopped them from starting from all the screen shots i got
[11:46] <CrazySam> 66%, hopefully there will be no such problems again
[11:48] <CrazySam> I first did do-release-upgrade but I pressed Ctrl+C unintentionally when it prompted Continue [yN] Details [d]
[11:48] <CrazySam> I was on Disco at that point, 19.04.
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> CrazySam: maybe choose an LTS next time, more stability then a non-lts?
[11:49] <CrazySam> So when I ran it a second time, do-release-upgrade, it complained of my current release not being up to date.
[11:50] <CrazySam> "please install all available updates for your release before upgrading"
[11:50] <CrazySam> zhanx: maybe this is when apt got stuck?
[11:51] <CrazySam> I'm assuming apt or dpkg is doing the works under the hood when I run do-release-upgrade.
[11:51] <CrazySam> So I was dumb to run sudo apt upgrade and somehow broke everything. But upgrade succeeded.
[11:52] <zhanx> i would answer that CrazySam but a crazy jannie from belguim decided to nazi up speech
[11:52] <CrazySam> Anyway, I'm waiting for 20.04 to finish now. (do-release-upgrade -d).
[11:53] <CrazySam> zhanx: can I pm you if I run into same problem again?
[11:53] <ducasse> !pm | CrazySam
[11:58] <shinobi> Is a zfs pool is created (not booted to) is it automatically mounted in 20.04?
[11:58] <shinobi> meaning on every boot, not just when the pool is created
[11:58] <ducasse> shinobi: zfs itself takes care of mounting
[11:59] <ducasse> shinobi: the mountpoint is a property you set on the dataset
[11:59] <shinobi> ducasse: So if I create a raid-z for data, is it a pain to change the mount point or other mounting options?
[12:00] <ducasse> no, just read the docs
[12:00] <donofrio> what is the command to upgrade 18.04 to 20.04 (tired dist-upgrade while nice doesn't seem to make it 20.04?)
[12:01] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | donofrio
[12:01] <donofrio> -d would take me to non-lts correct?
[12:01] <ducasse> no, 20.04 atm
[12:01] <donofrio> I mean I can wait abit just wondering so I can test and be ready
[12:02] <CrazySam> -d is dev (develop/developer/development/whichever)
[12:02] <donofrio> oh ok...I'll give it a try then, thanks.
[12:02] <CrazySam> It should still be LTS, right? Just makes you avoid waiting till July for it?
[12:03] <CrazySam> I have one 18.04.4 LTS server which needs upgrading to 20.04 LTS but I will wait for July.
[12:15] <coconut> anyone knows how that game was called with am shooiting air plaine?
[12:18] <CrazySam> coconut: Windws of Steel?
[12:18] <CrazySam> Winds of Steel
[12:19] <CrazySam> (It's not a typo. It's "winds" not wings.)
[12:24] <coconut> CrazySam: no not that one
[12:25] <CrazySam> coconut: what do you shoot the airplanes down with?
[12:25] <coconut> with an airplane too
[12:26] <zzarr> hello! when will I be able to upgrade ubuntu (19.10) to 20.04 via repos?
[12:28] <ducasse> zzarr: right now, if you use do-release-upgrade -d
[12:28] <CrazySam> coconut: then I don't know, sorry.
[12:28] <coconut> thnx anyway
[12:28] <zzarr> I get lagspikes and gnome shell is restarted some times this have started to happen the last week or so
[12:29] <zzarr> ducasse: -d means development release
[12:30] <CrazySam> !ltsupgrade | zzarr
[12:30] <ducasse> not in the interval between a release and the meta-release file
[12:30] <ducasse> meta-release should be updated in maybe a week or so
[12:31] <CrazySam> ducasse: will it be possible to upgrade to 20.04 from 19.10? A non-LTS to LTS?
[12:31] <ducasse> yes
[12:32] <zzarr> ubottu: that's why I wrote 19.10 it's not LTS to LTS
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> zzarr: you asked from 19.10
[12:32] <zzarr> CrazySam: that's why I wrote 19.10 it's not LTS to LTS
[12:32] <zzarr> yes
[12:33] <zzarr> must I run do-release-upgrade -d because I'm not on a LTS?
[12:34] <CrazySam> ducasse: can you please clarify here.
[12:34] <ducasse> no, as i said it's because meta-release is not updated yet
[12:34] <ducasse> zzarr: ^^
[12:34] <zzarr> I see, but it's a stable release?
[12:34] <ducasse> yes
[12:34] <CrazySam> So we're looking at the end of July then? Non-LTS or LTS, regardless?
[12:34] <ducasse> CrazySam: clarify what?
[12:35] <zzarr> sorry missed that you wrote that
[12:35] <ducasse> CrazySam: at the end of july 19.10 is eol, so you need to do an eol upgrade
[12:36] <ducasse> CrazySam: for 19.10 the -d is only needed for a few more days
[12:37] <born2bake> Hey guys, can someone help with networking on Ubuntu 18.04. I need to configure host machine - https://i.imgur.com/A0MHTMu.png with netplan if possible. Currently, my setup is very simple: tp-link router (10.0.0.1 ; 10.0.0.0/16) -> connected to switch -> connected to host machine (10.0.70.2). I am wondering, how can I configure host machine to use
[12:37] <born2bake> vlans as described in scheme.
[12:38] <ducasse> born2bake: take a look at the 'examples' section of netplan.io
[12:38] <CrazySam> ducasse: so in a few days -d will no longer be needed to upgrade 19.10 to 20.04? Because now it upgrades it to 20.04 LTS?
[12:38] <ducasse> CrazySam: correct
[12:39] <CrazySam> ok
[12:40] <ducasse> CrazySam: the difference is due to a file on the archive severs that is updated with the new release when the release team are confident upgrades should work
[12:40] <born2bake> ducasse I did, but I could not find the way how can I specify gateway to particular vlan https://i.imgur.com/b8FpgDM.png
[12:41] <CrazySam> ducasse: a "meta release" is same as point release?
[12:41] <ducasse> born2bake: try #netplan
[12:42] <ducasse> CrazySam: met-release is the name of that file
[12:42] <ducasse> *meta-release
[12:44] <CrazySam> So it's not related to point releases like 20.04.1?
[12:45] <ducasse> no
[12:46] <ducasse> born2bake: you can also try #ubuntu-server
[12:53] <sveinse> Running an daily preview of 20.04 from early april, what is the best approach to install 20.04 release? Can I dist-upgrade, or do I have to reinstall? I mean might there be dev/preview left overs if I upgrade?
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> !final | sveinse
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> sveinse: goes for 20.04 also
[12:55] <sveinse> lotuspsychje: thanks
[12:56] <CrazySam> I have upgraded now to 20.04 from 19.10 and appears to be stable and working.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Ubuntu Groovy chainloader won't be uploaded til thursday
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx BluesKaj
[13:09] <sazawal> Can I install Ubuntu 20.04 with pure Gnome (gnome-shell)?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: you mean gnome classic?
[13:10] <donofrio> BluesKaj, wuoldn't that be a +1 channel talk ;)
[13:12] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, I guess gnome classic is like gnome-flashback? I was asking about the one with Overview etc, where I can install gnome-shell-extensions
[13:14] <BluesKaj> donofrio, dunno, i haven't checked, it's still real early
[13:15] <sazawal> It must be manually installed I think after Ubuntu 20.04 installation. The page https://ubuntugnome.org/ shows that the latest version is Ubuntu 18.04.
[13:15] <ducasse> sazawal: you need to install it post-install
[13:18] <sazawal> ducasse, Yes.
[13:19] <ducasse> sazawal: you could use another installation image, i guess, to avoid the regular desktop packages
[13:21] <sazawal> ducasse, Thats what I was looking for, but I don't think it is there yet for the latest Ubuntu.
[13:21] <ducasse> you could use the server image?
[13:22] <AlexMax> Is it possible for me to mandate specific xrandr scaling settings globally?  I get a black flash on my monitor every time I switch accounts or to the login screen, and not only is it annoying, but it's leaving ghost mouse pointers on my screen.
[13:23] <sazawal> ducasse, Yes that makes sense, then I just need to install the desktop environment. But apart from the desktop environment, isn't the server version is short of many features than desktop version?
[13:25] <ducasse> i wouldn't say that, most of them comes with installing a desktop
[13:26] <sazawal> I see
[13:26] <ducasse> there are some server tools you might want to get rid of, though, i just keep them as i want many anyway
[13:28] <Saurabh009> Does anyone know how to setup Mobile broadband option in the Ubuntu 18.04
[13:40] <StyXman> are unattended updates/upgrades still a thing?
[13:47] <ducasse> yes, certainly
[13:52] <StyXman> does it upgrade kernels? what does it do then?
[13:56] <ducasse> it upgrades what you configure it to upgrade
[13:58] <StyXman> ok, I see.
[14:01] <Phr33d0m> hi, I have a 18.04 server and I need to somehow install openconnect 8, but bionic repo has only v7
[14:02] <Phr33d0m> I've found https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openconnect/8.02-1 - how would I go installing this?
[14:06] <ducasse> StyXman: see /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades
[14:07] <james_castrello> is flatpak another version of apt or something
[14:08] <genhaoqi> Phr33d0m: openconnect_8.02.orig.tar.gz	1.8 MiB
[14:08] <StyXman> james_castrello: it's another package format, like snap
[14:08] <james_castrello> StyXman ah, i see
[14:09] <StyXman> and works in parallel/independently of dpkg/apt et al
[14:09] <StyXman> oh, so that's it
[14:09] <Phr33d0m> genhaoqi I tried `dpkg -i` that and it cried about unsatisfied deps, so I'm trying to manually install those
[14:09] <Phr33d0m> which will most probably break a ton of other stuff, but eh...
[14:11] <genhaoqi> Phr33d0m: this is a binary tar.gz , and unstable
[14:12] <genhaoqi> Phr33d0m: maybe you can try debian package https://packages.debian.org/sid/openconnect
[14:26] <clarkk> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04. Under the privacy settings, I've set my screen to automatically lock, and go blank after 5 minutes. Under the power settings, I've set the screen to go blank after 5 mins.  Yet, my screen doesn't turn off after any period of inactivity. How do I achieve this?
[14:29] <StyXman> Phr33d0m: next time try sudo apt install <deb_file>
[14:42] <CrazySam> Is it just me or is scrolling just generally unresponsive in Gnome?
[14:42] <CrazySam> Well in Ubuntu, not just Gnome.
[14:43] <CrazySam> Examples include opening Libre Calc and scrolling in a blank document.
[14:44] <CrazySam> 2 wheel increments are 1 scroll, and at times 3, 4, 5 increments are no scroll at all
[14:45] <CrazySam> I have to rotate the wheel at least 5 full turns to move vertically a a full height of a page.
[14:47] <CrazySam> It's similar in Terminal. Often times the scrolling skips a beat and I have to scroll like a hamster in a wheel to move one page up or down when reading previous commands and outputs.
[14:47] <CrazySam> (That means a lot.)
[14:48] <CrazySam> Best experience is in Firefox. I scroll, it scrolls, I stop, it stops. Very snappy and fluid. Unlike the rest of the system.
[14:48] <elmerpantry> hi all--question, is the repository down right now for some reason?
[14:53] <jackhum> after upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 , i have a lot of pixelated green dots on my desktop, i googled and tried turning wayland off/on but no luck
[14:53] <jackhum> can anyone tell me what's wrong ? can this be due to my intel graphics ?
[14:57] <blb4393> hello, could someone provide 'dpkg -l' output of the fresh installed ubuntu 20.04 desktop?
[15:01] <CrazySam> Does cd require sudo?
[15:02] <Andrio> Only if you don't have permission to access that directory
[15:02] <CrazySam> I can't cd to /var/cache/apparmor/26b63962.0
[15:02] <ducasse> elmerpantry: try another mirror
[15:02] <CrazySam> bash: cd: 26b63962.0/: Permission denied
[15:03] <CrazySam> sudo: cd: command not found
[15:03] <quadrathoch2> CrazySam, you need to use root for that so: sudo -i
[15:03] <CrazySam> What is this apparmor?
[15:03] <quadrathoch2> CrazySam, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[15:04] <CrazySam> Ah yes, now let's have a look. Thank you!
[15:04] <ducasse> CrazySam: cd is not a command, but a shell builtin
[15:05] <CrazySam> OK
[15:06] <CrazySam> Disk Usage Analyzer was complaining that it can't scan that area.
[15:06] <ducasse> CrazySam: hence you cannot run it with sudo, you need a root shell
[15:06] <ducasse> (sudo -i)
[15:07] <CrazySam> ducasse: how do I give it to ^^ ?
[15:07] <CrazySam> It's not really me that needs it.
[15:08] <ducasse> CrazySam: as i said, sudo -i
[15:08] <CrazySam> It's a graphical program.
[15:09] <CrazySam> I have to invoke it from a root shell?
[15:10] <blb4393> still, may I has 'dpkg -l' of the fresh installed ubuntu 20.04? (i.e.no additional software installed manually)
[15:13] <quadrathoch2> idk, i'm pretty sure nobody has a 20.04 install laying around with no modifications :/
[15:14] <blb4393> damn you modifications freaks ; )
[15:14] <yuradoc> hello. can't find php7.3 on the newest kubunto 20.04
[15:14] <ducasse> blb4393: spin up a container/vm and check?
[15:15] <ducasse> yuradoc: 20.04 comes with php7.4
[15:15] <blb4393> ducasse: exactly. That's why i asked here
[15:15] <blb4393> ducasse: because I don't wanna do that
[15:16] <CrazySam> blb4393: give me a minute
[15:16] <quadrathoch2> yuradoc, next time, it's easier to just search for it on packages.ubuntu.com/<package-name>
[15:16] <yuradoc> i have some development sites that won't run on php7.4
[15:16] <jackhum> i have same problem , https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231824/fuzzy-graphics-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-20-04
[15:16] <jackhum> i tried his solution but its not working for me
[15:17] <yuradoc> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+source/php7.3
[15:17] <yuradoc> here i see that
[15:18] <quadrathoch2> i think it's still a remnant before 7.4 hit the repos
[15:20] <clarkk11> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04. Under the privacy settings, I've set my screen to automatically lock, and go blank after 5 minutes. Under the power settings, I've set the screen to go blank after 5 mins.  Yet, my screen doesn't turn off after any period of inactivity. How do I achieve this?
[15:22] <quadrathoch2> clarkk11, there is probably a program which doesn't let the OS go to sleep
[15:23] <CrazySam> blb4393: https://dpaste.org/H4HR/raw
[15:23] <quadrathoch2> I had once a bug, where for example telegram was running in the backgroud. so the PC couldn't go to sleep
[15:23] <blb4393> CrazySam: thanks a lot mate
[15:24] <CrazySam> blb4393: sure, np
[15:40] <blb4393> wasn't wireguard planned to be ported into theh 5.4 kernel for ubuntu 20.04?
[15:40] <leftyfb> it is
[15:40] <leftyfb> blb4393: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-20-04-set-up-wireguard-vpn-server/
[15:45] <stoiss> Hi. having a problem with my ubunt. Im having some issues with apt-get keep wanting to install some nvidia drivers that will keep failing
[15:46] <leftyfb> stoiss: please pastebin the error message
[15:46] <stoiss> files like /var/cache/apt/archives/libnvidia-gl-390_390.132-0ubuntu2_i386.deb it reports on mismatch
[15:46] <stoiss> leftyfb,  allright
[15:46] <stoiss> leftyfb, https://bpaste.net/HHMQ
[15:47] <stoiss> sadly some of it is in danish but id think youd be able to tell what it says. otherwise just ask
[15:47] <leftyfb> stoiss: sudo apt clean # then try again
[15:47] <stoiss> i have. same stuff
[15:47] <leftyfb> stoiss: try a different mirror?
[15:47] <stoiss> it happens when i try the apt --fix-broken install
[15:47] <stoiss> hm yeah ok ill try that
[15:47] <leftyfb> stoiss: what version of ubuntu?
[15:47] <stoiss> 20.04
[15:51] <stoiss> seems to be when i try to install from restricted
[15:54] <ioria> stoiss, have a look, maybe relevant : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1768050
[15:55] <ioria> stoiss, workaround on #5
[15:57] <stoiss> ioria, thanks. i did that actually. it still will mess up when i attempt any apt-get upgrade
[15:58] <skummer101> Greetings everyone!
[15:59] <skummer101> I have a question regarding SNAP's and Ubuntu 20.04.  I have removed SNAPD and am trying to install an APT package but Ubuntu auto installs SNAPD then grabs the package.  How do I get it to only use APT?
[16:00] <jackhum> anyone also facing this issue ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231824/fuzzy-graphics-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-20-04
[16:01] <stoiss> ioria, seems it keeps insisting on installing nvidia-driver-390 i need to find a way to make it not do that
[16:03] <ioria> stoiss,   export LC_ALL=C  apt full-upgrade
[16:03] <leftyfb> skummer101: which package?
[16:04] <skummer101> chromium-browser
[16:04] <stoiss> ioria, full-upgrade isnt a valid identifier
[16:04] <skummer101> sudo apt install chromium-browser
[16:04] <leftyfb> skummer101: https://snapcraft.io/blog/chromium-in-ubuntu-deb-to-snap-transition
[16:05] <leftyfb> skummer101: chromium-browser is no longer available as a deb package
[16:05] <skummer101> I see; so this is going to be Ubuntus path then?
[16:05] <stoiss> go with brave browser. its chromium but more directed at anonymity
[16:05] <skummer101> I prefer having "all" browsers installed in the event I run into something that doesnt work right (or keeping cookies separate)
[16:06] <skummer101> might be a silly question; but could I pull in a Debian package of Chromium?
[16:07] <leftyfb> skummer101: it's not supported here
[16:07] <leftyfb> skummer101: why not just use the snap package?
[16:07] <ioria> stoiss,   export LC_ALL=C ;  apt full-upgrade
[16:07] <skummer101> snap is slow, buggy and changes my resolution every time a package is touched
[16:08] <skummer101> Spotify just flat out doesnt work on menu selection (snap) but it works fine if I pull it down via apt
[16:08] <stoiss> ioria, still the same. try running apt --fix-broken install
[16:08] <leftyfb> skummer101: so don't install snap versions of packages that have issues?
[16:08] <stoiss> but that doesnt work
[16:08] <ioria> stoiss,   can you paste the errors ?
[16:09] <stoiss> ioria, https://bpaste.net/GPBA
[16:09] <skummer101> Agreed; and I normally do that.  Just not a fan of SNAP...  Good in concept; bad in function...
[16:09] <stoiss> skummer101,  you can just as well use other chromium based browsers.
[16:11] <skummer101> I am sure you won't like this answer...  Google Chrome is signed in as my work account; Chromium is my personal account.  Brave is for Anon browsing.  Firefox is for sites that are buggy with Chrome based stuff.  Opera when I feel like hating myself...
[16:11] <stoiss> ioria,  oh. .found something that does seem to work
[16:12] <ioria> stoiss,  ok ..... already tried to purge nvidia ?
[16:12] <stoiss> ioria,  this: LC_MESSAGES=C dpkg-divert --list '*nvidia-340*' --no-rename | sed -nre 's/^diversion of (.*) to .*/\1/p' | xargs -rd'\n' -n1 -- sudo dpkg-divert --remove
[16:12] <stoiss> this seems to make fix broken install function right
[16:12] <stoiss> no errors so far.
[16:12] <ioria> stoiss,  ok
[16:13] <stoiss> ioria,  thanks. you did lead me in the right direction here. appreciate it
[16:13] <ioria> stoiss,  no problem
[16:13] <stoiss> skummer101,  i think you can sign in with brave as well
[16:13] <skummer101> into a google account?  or a brave account?
[16:13] <stoiss> google i believe. cant remember.
[16:14] <stoiss> skummer101, ah sorry. seems they did leave out that part in brave.
[16:15] <stoiss> so yeah. youre going to have to do with snap
[16:15] <stoiss> or pull the debian
[16:15] <stoiss> anyway. im off. ty guys
[16:15] <skummer101> thanks
[16:17] <FrankyGov> heya
[16:17] <FrankyGov> I am trying to connect GNS3 to Vmware\Virtualbox on my PC
[16:18] <FrankyGov> I should check if Ubuntu is blocking certain ports
[16:18] <FrankyGov> Which service or program I can use to whatch port status or which attempt connection attempt has been blocked?
[16:21] <RattleBattle79> stupid question I guess: Will this actually encrypt my swap partition?   https://blog.sleeplessbeastie.eu/2012/05/23/ubuntu-how-to-encrypt-swap-partition/
[16:21] <RattleBattle79> I mean, there is no password or anything to decrypt
[16:25] <ducasse> RattleBattle79: that's normal
[16:25] <fl0_id> hey. so when on upgrade to 20.04 it says I need to install all upgrades but all have been installed ... what gives?
[16:26] <RattleBattle79> ducasse: So it just writes encrypted data which cannot be read when the partition is unmounted again?
[16:28] <FilthNFoil> hi
[16:29] <MarkG1234> Can someone help me, trying to update my Ubuntu 19.10 now 20.04 is released, but it always says no update is available.
[16:30] <MarkG1234> using /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER MarkG1234 zuamnhnktwfa
[16:30] <MarkG1234> using update-manager -c
[16:30] <DJones> MarkG1234: It'll be a few days before you get an update notification
[16:30] <MarkG1234> have installed all 19.10 updates
[16:30] <MarkG1234> hasn't it already been a week?
[16:30] <MarkG1234> After all that fanfare, there is more delays?
[16:31] <DJones> Also, change your IRC password since you've just posted it in a public channel
[16:31] <housecat> that wasn't a password
[16:31] <housecat> also, it was released on thursday, so we're on work day #3
[16:32] <MarkG1234> meh, that's crappy console copy and paste in Ubuntu.
[16:36] <kyle__> He's on
[16:36] <kyle__> Wrong window
[16:37] <Xard> it's confusing that select + middle click paste and ctr+c ctrl+v are two separate clipboards
[16:38] <johnfg> hi again folks!
[16:39] <johnfg> So, a weird thing.  ubuntu-server-20.04 would not install in my setup, as there was a problem with using lvm.  However, I thought I'd try desktop-20.04 and it installed fine, with lvm, and /boot on a logical volume.
[16:40] <johnfg> Are the installers actually different for server and desktop?
[16:41] <clarkk11> quadrathoch2, if I run xset dpms 0 0 600 at the shell once per boot, it works as expected. I just don't understand why this isn't built into ubuntu
[16:41] <kyle__> They pull from the same repos, but I don't know with 20.04.
[16:41] <kyle__> Also, /boot on lvm?  Is this a modern box?
[16:41] <kyle__> Or using legacy bios?
[16:44] <clarkk11> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04. Under the privacy settings, I've set my screen to automatically lock, and go blank after 5 minutes. Under the power settings, I've set the screen to go blank after 5 mins.  Yet, my screen doesn't turn off after any period of inactivity. If I run 'xset dpms 0 0 600' at the shell once per boot, it works as expected - turning the screen off after 10 mins (and returning to the lock screen if activated again). Could someone
[16:44] <clarkk11> explain why this isn't built into ubuntu or, if it is, how to achieve it?
[17:00] <quadrathoch2> clarkk11, weird, nevber had that issue :/
[17:02] <fl0_id> why could 18.04 says it isn't fully upgraded, (when attempting to ugrade) whereas apt upgrade says it is?
[17:06] <ioria> fl0_id, uname -r ?
[17:08] <fl0_id> 5.3.0-46-generic - is that correct? HWE etc is upgraded and lsb_release says 18.04.4
[17:08] <fl0_id> ioria
[17:09] <ioria> yes, it is
[17:10] <ioria> fl0_id, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:11] <johnfg> kyle__: I guess that was to me, and yes, /boot is on lvm, and I am using legacy bios.
[17:11] <johnfg> My debian server also works with /boot on lvm, fwiw.
[17:16] <fl0_id> ioria that prob would have done it, I saw that 4 pkgs were not shown or complained about by upgrade or dist-upgrade and couldn't be upgraded because of conflicts so I removed them (unimportant ones) and that did it
[17:16] <FrankyGov> Can I enable UFW and allow ports and protocols on a per application basis?
[17:16] <fl0_id> thanks
[17:16] <ioria> fl0_id, ok
[17:17] <kyle__> johnfg: Right, that's why I was asking.  EFI is picky about /boot, or at least /boot/efi if you go that route, and then it can't be on LVM :)
[17:18] <kyle__> johnfg: As far as why desktop installs with your existing lvm and not server, that's a mystery to me :/  I haven't run into that situation.
[17:19]  * kyle__ only has one 20.04 instance, and it's a container.
[17:26] <DumbLDoor> Hi! I did a fresh install of 20.04, have a separate data partition but don't see the Desktop directory
[17:28] <DumbLDoor> ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs shows XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/"  and XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/"...
[17:29] <DumbLDoor> I have lost some files too
[17:30] <crimson_king> How long until we can upgrade to 20.04 from 19.10?
[17:31] <coconut> FrankyGov, yes you can. Easy with gufw tool.
[17:33] <oerheks> !ltsupgrade
[17:33] <johnfg> kyle__: It sure doesn't make sense.  I wanted to install server, but I guess I can just add whatever I want/need to desktop.
[17:33] <oerheks> i would wait..
[17:34] <kyle__> johnfg: :/ that's an ugly way though.  Especially when you dont' want/need all the desktop stuff all the time.  I'd give a few goes on a VM to see if you can suss it out. \
[17:34] <johnfg> kyle__: I could do that.
[17:56] <aaron_m> What is the best way to report a bug when ubuntu-bug says the program was not installed through dpkg?
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> aaron_m: whats this package you want to bug to?
[17:59] <aaron_m> I am not sure if it is appropriate to report Ubuntu or to report to VMWare. I upgraded to 20.04 and VMWare Workstation 15 is broken now. I have been trying to troubleshoot it for a couple days. It is not an official ubuntu package (obviously)
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> aaron_m: you can only use ubuntu-bug to official packages from the ubuntu repos
[18:01] <aaron_m> Ok thanks. I'll head over to the vmware forums to see if someone can assist
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> aaron_m: contact the support of the maintainer of vmware yes
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> aaron_m: or #vmware
[18:06] <locsmif> Kan a newer version of 64bit Ubuntu be cajoled to install on a system which only supports 32bit EFI? So far my friend only got 64bit Fedora to work
[18:06] <locsmif> Can a*
[18:09] <sarnold> locsmif: iirc that was a problem with "baytrail" systems; perhaps that'll help you spot blogposts or similar from when those machines were popular
[18:09] <locsmif> sarnold: in this case he's working with a Macbook Core2Duo
[18:10] <locsmif> He's got Fedora 64bit running, but only because they include bootia32.efi etc.. with Frub
[18:10] <locsmif> Grub*
[18:10] <locsmif> (presumably)
[18:10] <locsmif> He's an audio guy, so I was thinking of remastering (pun intended) Ubuntu Studio for him if need be
[18:41] <Mr_Singh> Hi , Is here anyone who can suggest me best RDP . I have ubuntu 18.04 and I want to connect with Windows 10
[18:42] <Mr_Singh> Please anyone suggest me
[18:42] <Mr_Singh> I am troubling
[18:43] <kyle__> remmina and remmina-plugin-rdp
[18:43] <kyle__> Should let you rdp just fine to a windows box
[18:45] <LazySillyBear> Hey everyone, I am afraid this might be an obvious question to you guys but here we are.
[18:45] <Deano59> LazySillyBear, shoot.
[18:46] <LazySillyBear> I have an NVME with Win10 already installed (also Windows Boot Manager on it, /dev/nvme0ne1). I also have another SSD (/dev/sdb) where I want my "/", my "home" and my swap to be.
[18:47] <LazySillyBear> I am a bit confused where I need to install the boot loader for ubuntu 20.04 in now
[18:47] <Deano59> LazySillyBear, to the windows 500mb partition.
[18:47] <Deano59> it'll install grub so you can "dual" boot.
[18:48] <LazySillyBear> 500MB? I have one with 523MB which is NTFS or one with 104MB (efi) (which is where it says Windows Bootloader)
[18:49] <LazySillyBear> I just wanna make sure, since the last time I installed 18.04 I didn't get GRUB
[18:49] <Deano59> oh, uefi. might be different then. sorry, idk.
[18:49] <Deano59> good luck! wait around, someone will know.
[18:50] <LazySillyBear> Oh sorry, I didn't think to add this. Thanks anyways!
[18:51] <Deano59> I don't use uefi because it's a pain in the... so yeah. I'm clueless with it. ;P
[18:51] <letterrip> hi where can a find a replacement copy of python/distro_info.py mine is borked and the recommendations found via google link to an inaccessible debian site currently
[18:52] <Mr_Singh> kyle__ : I am not getting "rdp just fine to a windows box"
[18:53] <kyle__> You're also not giving us any information as to what's happening when you use the standard tools for this : remmina with the rdp plugin.
[18:54] <ioria> letterrip, you mean /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/distro_info.py ?
[18:54] <letterrip> ioria sure
[18:54] <otyugh> hey, silly question. I'd want to see Ubuntu's git project (not the package's one, the "before build" ISO's source.
[18:54] <ioria> letterrip, it's in this pkg : python3-distro-info
[18:54] <otyugh> I'm searching for 10 minute now and I have not a clue yet :p
[18:55] <ioria> letterrip,  install --reinstall it or install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask,confnew,confmiss"  python3-distro-info
[18:55] <Mr_Singh> Anyone please I am looking for rdp from ubuntu 1804 to windows 10
[18:56] <Mr_Singh> Please suggest me
[18:56] <Mr_Singh> what I need to do for it
[18:56] <Mr_Singh> which rdp is good
[18:58] <letterrip> ioria - i passed that to dpkg and apt and neither of them liked that line - what installer should i be using?
[18:58] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: < kyle__> remmina and remmina-plugin-rdp < kyle__> Should let you rdp just fine to a windows box
[18:59] <Mr_Singh> got it
[18:59] <Mr_Singh> sarnold : Can I do everything using this plugin like development etc
[18:59] <ioria> letterrip, sudo apt   install --reinstall  python3-distro-info
[19:00] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: it depends on what you're doing, probably 3d graphics may not work great
[19:00] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: but I've never used rdp, so, no idea :)
[19:00] <Mr_Singh> ok , It this one is the best right ?
[19:01] <Mr_Singh> sarnold isthe best rdp right ?
[19:01] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: "best" is subjective
[19:01] <Mr_Singh> as compare to others
[19:01] <Mr_Singh> subjective : performance
[19:02] <sarnold> Mr_Singh: try it out and see if it works for you -- if it doesn't work for you, someone may be able to offer a different suggestion based on how well it does or doesn't work :)
[19:02] <Mr_Singh> ok (y)
[19:02] <Mr_Singh> Thank you for this information
[19:02] <Mr_Singh> I am going with it
[19:02] <Mr_Singh> (y)
[19:02] <sarnold> have fun :)
[19:03] <LazySillyBear> Ah, I think I figured it out, apparently it doesn't matter where you install it since it will always go o the efi anyways. So you can't make a wrong choice if windows was already booting in UEFI mode
[19:03] <LazySillyBear> I installed it to the efi on the nvme now anyways
[19:03] <LazySillyBear> let's see if this hold true
[19:03] <letterrip> ioria - that worked, but didn't fix the problem I'd hoped it would fix
[19:04] <letterrip> ioria - https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GJBMgYQDm9/ - any suggestions?
[19:05] <letterrip> I suspect that distro_info.py is being used from a different location
[19:07] <Sven_vB> I'm trying to repair my Xubuntu live session. something probably broke in the casper-rw persistent storage. systemd reports sucessful start of getty on tty1 but the current VT doesn't react to keyboard input (except Ctrl-Alt-Del), even Ctrl-Alt-F{1..10} has no visible effect. I try to login via serial, but my ttyUSB0 window in screen cycles between a few seconds of black and a few seconds of "Ubuntu 20.04 LTS xubuntu ttyUSB0¶ ?
[19:07] <Sven_vB> ? xubuntu login: xubuntu (automatic login)". any input over serial seems to have no effect, except being printed back to my screen window. any ideas?
[19:08] <Sven_vB> keyboard works fine in an initramfs shell, in case that helps
[19:09] <Sven_vB> nevermind, somehow this time ethernet LAN works, so I can just SSH in.
[19:09] <ioria> letterrip,  sudo updatedb && locate DistUpgradeQuirks.py
[19:11] <kyle__> Sven_vB: FWIW I don't remember the last time ubuntu server automatically setup my serial console for me.  Had to do it manually after the install for quite a while now.
[19:14] <Sven_vB> kyle__, yeah I set it up manually on the Xubuntu desktop DVD via casper-rw
[19:14]  * kyle__ nods
[19:15] <kyle__> It's the most useful thing in the world.  I wish it were standard.  Or least a toggle in the einstaller
[19:16] <Sven_vB> I have a neat GRUB bootdisk that has extra space for ISO image files, which it can boot directly via GRUB loop device, and for Ubuntu-style ISOs, enable casper-rw.
[19:16] <DumbLDoor> Anyone has experience with Photorec/testdisk?
[19:16] <Sven_vB> I'll publish it once I clean it up more
[19:16] <letterrip> ioria - usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeQuirks.py
[19:19] <kyle__> DumbLDoor: I've used it a few times, but never done anything super fancy with it.\
[19:23] <Guest47043> Hi not sure if it's the right place to ask but I'll try.. I have Intel HD Graphics card 620 in my laptop, trying to play some games in steam, and all I can get is 59 fps.. is this the actual fps I can get with this?:O
[19:24] <ioria> letterrip, dpkg -S   /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeQuirks.py
[19:25] <zutat> Guest47043: yes
[19:25] <Guest47043> :O|
[19:25] <zutat> Guest47043: or did you get more than under windows?
[19:26] <Guest47043> I don't have windows.. I guess I could install with dual boot.. but really don't like to:D
[19:27] <zutat> Guest47043: anyway. that's a very low power gpu, so 59 fps is probably correct
[19:28] <Guest47043> I see some posts in google about "tweaking" this driver in Windows, but not finding some options in ubuntu
[19:30] <zutat> Guest47043: probably not worth the hassle. if you don't see any tearing at the moment, it's a good result for an intel
[19:30] <Guest47043> I see.. well seems legit I guess:) thanks zutat
[19:32] <ahmedamerican> by default once Python installed. `py` command is not defined? shall i just create alias for it
[19:33] <ioria> letterrip,   see if this can help  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1182208/problem-with-upgrading-19-04-to-19-10-unicodedecodeerror-utf-8-codec-cant-d
[19:35] <letterrip> ioria hehe that is the link that got me to here asking my original question :)
[19:35] <ioria> letterrip,   you did it ?
[19:35] <letterrip> ioria - the salsa.debian,org is down
[19:35] <sarnold> ahmedamerican: pythonpy: /usr/bin/py
[19:36] <ioria> letterrip,   no it's not
[19:36] <letterrip> ioria - hmm wget timed out each time
[19:36] <ioria> letterrip,   nope
[19:36] <letterrip> ioria - timed out here
[19:36] <sarnold> ioria: https://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2020/04/msg00002.html
[19:36] <letterrip> will try again
[19:37] <ioria> letterrip,   sarnold i downloaded just fine
[19:37] <letterrip> ioria - strange
[19:38] <sarnold> heh, this worked for me too wget https://salsa.debian.org/debian/distro-info/raw/master/python/distro_info.py
[19:38] <letterrip> ioria - works fine now - was down earlier
[19:38] <ioria> letterrip,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jgNc2cQJMf/
[19:38] <ioria> ok
[19:38] <ioria> letterrip,  let's try the fix
[19:40] <letterrip> ioria - yep working now
[19:41] <ioria> letterrip, good
[19:41] <cgi> How do people sync their .files on new machines?
[19:41] <cgi> .vimrc, .bashrc, .xxx ?
[19:42] <cgi> I keep getting new machines and having to sync these manually - what is a good way to get this done?
[19:44] <bgilb> if i use a symbolic link on a folder, and then cp other folders inside the subdirectory will the copied folders be unique but the symbolic link will still work?
[19:44] <bertand[m]> cgi i didnt understand by syncing new machine ??? can u elaborate
[19:45] <sarnold> cgi: there's hundreds of repos on github like this https://github.com/atoponce/dotfiles
[19:45] <cgi> bertand[m], when i provision a new machine, I want my files in there
[19:45] <sarnold> cgi: be careful you don't put passwords or access tokens in thos things though
[19:45] <seere> cgi: I keep them all in a git repo together with a script which symlinks them were they belong.
[19:45] <sarnold> bgilb: I don't understand the question
[19:46] <bgilb> so i have a master sub folder that has like /stuff/  /stuff/pictures  /stuff/videos   /stuff/cfg
[19:46] <bgilb> i use a symbolic link to create like /stuff2
[19:46] <bgilb> but for stuff2 i'd like the /cfg folder to not being a symbolic link and be unique
[19:47] <bgilb> and its way more than 3 folders/files so doing it folder by folder isn't possible
[19:47] <bertand[m]> cgi: now i understand yes but dont put ur passwords in them
[19:48] <oerheks> rsync/grsync gui; backup properly, Use the -a flag, which includes among other things, the options -o and -g, which preserves owners and groups
[19:49] <bgilb> was that at me?
[19:49] <sarnold> bgilb: so, I got lost at "i use a symbolic link to create like /stuff2" :)
[19:50] <sarnold> where's it link to?
[19:50] <bgilb> i just do ln -s /stuff /stuff2
[19:50] <bgilb> for example
[19:51] <sarnold> so you want /stuff/pictures and /stuff2/pictures/ to be identical, /stuff/videos and /stuff2/videos to be identical, but /stuff/cfg/ and /stuff2/cfg/ to be different?
[19:52] <bgilb> yes
[19:54] <sarnold> bgilb: you could mkdir /stuff2 then ln -s /stuff/videos  /stuff2/videos ; ln -s /stuff/pictures /stuff2/pictures ; etc .. then mkdir /stuff2/cfg
[19:54] <bgilb> no other way?
[19:55] <sarnold> you could do similar things with bind mounts, I guess, but those are confusing :)
[19:55] <sarnold> and also require configuring after every reboot
[19:55] <bgilb> ah
[19:55] <bgilb> i guess i'll exhaustively make all the symbolic links necessary lol
[19:56] <bgilb> because the real unique folders are like /folder1/folder2/folder3/folder4
[19:57] <sarnold> the symlinks in a path are resolved as the path is traversed, element by element; once you've gone through a symink to another directory, you're *in* in the other directory, and look up the next element there
[19:57] <bgilb> yeah so if i forexample del /cfg it deletes the original right?
[19:58] <sarnold> yes, because there's only the one :)
[19:58] <bgilb> so to have unique everything up to the final sub directory itself can't be a symlink right?
[19:58] <bgilb> like /folder1/folder2/folder3/folder9 can be a symlink
[19:59] <bgilb> but i can't symlink 1/2/3 alone because i need 1/2/3/4 to be unique
[19:59] <sarnold> I think you've got it, yeah
[19:59] <bertand[m]> bgilb yup right man
[19:59] <bgilb> okay time to make like a list of 30 symbolic links lmao
[19:59] <bgilb> thanks for the help
[20:00] <bguebert> bgilb: maybe you could script out linking to each of the other directories if there are a lot of them
[20:00] <bgilb> okay
[20:03] <cgi> bertand[m], sarnold What is the easiest way to get the dotfiles to a new machine? git clone? curl? ...
[20:04] <bguebert> bgilb: something like: ls | sed 's/^.*$/ln -s & &2/'
[20:05] <BarnabasDK> cgi, can you do it via scp?
[20:05] <bguebert> bgilb: but you'd need to change the regex around to get the right root folder
[20:05] <bgilb_> whats that do?
[20:06] <bertand[m]> How to set up a fresh Ubuntu desktop using only dotfiles and bash scripts
[20:06] <bertand[m]> https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/how-to-set-up-a-fresh-ubuntu-desktop-using-only-dotfiles-and-bash-scripts/
[20:06] <cgi> git clone https://github.com/webpro/dotfiles.git  && cd dotfiles && ./installscript ?
[20:07] <bguebert> bgilb: it puts the folders in current directory into a list of link create commands
[20:07] <cgi> bertand[m], https://github.com/tomnomnom/dotfiles/blob/master/setup.sh ?
[20:07] <bguebert> bgilb: it doesn't make the links, just outputs the commands to stdout
[20:07] <bgilb_> okay i'll take a look at that
[20:15] <bertand[m]> cgi  yup
[20:28] <tripelb> 19.04 was great until it was 9dd. So I rebooted and fail. It goes to initramfs and says that /dev/sda8 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY. - How do I do that?
[20:28] <tripelb> Fsck exited with status code 4
[20:29] <tripelb> 9dd >> not
[20:30] <tripelb> I can tell you what I did just before it got weird.
[20:32] <Bashing-om> tripelb: A manual fsck best done from a the LiveUSB, Got it handy ?
[20:36] <sarnold> heh, back in 1997 or so, I was *really* impressed at the SuSE Linux manual: they included the fsck manpage on the inside cover of the manual -- they knew if you needed it, you might not be able to get man to work
[20:37] <tripelb> Bashing-om yes I do. Goes to find the bag of sticks. (Leaves accidental funny alone)
[20:38] <Bashing-om> sarnold: :) - Things were simpler back then - and Docs to me were much better maintained. The docs are what won me to ubuntu :D
[20:38] <sarnold> Bashing-om: heh, and the state of the wiki today will drive one to tears
[20:39] <oerheks> only for those who read
[20:40] <Bashing-om> tripelb: Boiit that liveUSB  and activate a terminal ; run ' sudo fsck /dev/sda8 ' as a first poke at it - Many times this is deep enough to correct.
[20:48] <Sven_vB> how can I make LVM give a better error message than "Device /dev/??? doesn't exist or access denied."? the /dev/??? is a symlink to ../../sda6, which is "brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 6 Apr 28 20:19 /dev/sda6"
[20:48] <Sven_vB> they keyfile for luksopen had correct checksum and the same unlock script worked on xenial
[20:49] <Sven_vB> (now trying in xubuntu focal desktop dvd)
[20:58] <LinStatSDR> Hello all. I am having an issue installing 20.04, was wondering if anyone has come across this issue. I have some pictures uploaded which may explain it better. https://imgur.com/a/AbALTjN
[20:58] <walter__> hi, the past week I installed the latest ubuntu, and identifyed a crash notification in IBus process. Now I see that the keyboard layout is not working for abnt2, and the idioms that manage keyboard layout gives the option Ibus, XIM, and none. I believe that if I fix IBus somehow I will be able to setup my layout correctly. But I dont know how. Any help?
[20:59] <Linkandzelda> hello, i have a server running 18.04 which was very recently setup, and it's already become victim to abuse. what can i do to find out how this happened?
[21:01] <oerheks> LinStatSDR, windows shut down in fastboot?
[21:01] <LinStatSDR> Prior to installation?
[21:01] <LinStatSDR> I had done a full shutdown yes.
[21:01] <oerheks> there is some more to find in the !uefi manual
[21:01] <oerheks> !uefi
[21:02] <oerheks>  Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT).
[21:02] <LinStatSDR> What makes you think it might be this?
[21:02] <oerheks> or did you have ubuntu installed previously and worked?
[21:02] <oerheks> hmm, i hope not a memory corruption
[21:02] <LinStatSDR> No. I have not been successfull installing ubuntu in a native environment
[21:02] <LinStatSDR> Since 14.04.
[21:02] <LinStatSDR> -_-
[21:03] <LinStatSDR> All Vms
[21:03] <tripelb> Thanks for that link oerheks
[21:03] <oerheks> oh oke, check for a bios update.
[21:03] <LinStatSDR> Will do sir.
[21:03] <oerheks> that rules out a lot...
[21:03] <LinStatSDR> I will read about the uefi specs and the features in the bios that may be causing that.
[21:04] <LinStatSDR> As always, thank you kind sir.
[21:06] <walter__> I have already tryed sudo etxkbmap -model abnt2 -layout br and the configuration file looks ok. /etc/default/keyboard looks ok
[21:06] <tripelb> Resaid with corrections: 20.04 was great until it was odd (after I copied from the 18.04 partition, siad things like read only because i tried to delete from 18.04) So I rebooted and FAIL. It goes to initramfs and says that /dev/sda8 UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY. - How do I do that? **NOW:: I have the 20?04 liveusb booted (and spurred). Bashing-on plz read changes.
[21:08] <Bashing-om> tripelb: "I copied from the 18.04 partition" . What did you copy ?
[21:08] <sarnold> Tue 28 20:40:13 < Bashing-om> tripelb: Boiit that liveUSB  and activate a terminal ; run ' sudo fsck /dev/sda8 ' as a first poke at it - Many times this is deep enough to correct.
[21:10] <walter__> do someone have an idea to solve the problem?
[21:11] <bgilb_> got it working lol. had to do find mostly
[21:15] <walter__> I see in configuration the called system of method of input of keyboard Ibus. That gave an error in installation.
[21:17] <Meaxis> Hello
[21:17] <Meaxis> I've got a huge problem with Ubuntu
[21:17] <Meaxis> basically
[21:17] <Meaxis> apt doesn't work
[21:18] <Meaxis> when I log-in via ssh, where it usually shows the changelog shows an error telling it can't reach changelog
[21:18] <Meaxis> I've tried everything but nothing works
[21:18] <Meaxis> help please
[21:18] <Mordoc> Meaxis: what is the error when you run something like sudo apt update?
[21:19] <Meaxis> Stuck on "Waiting for headers [0%]" then it returns "Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan InRelease
[21:20] <Mordoc> Meaxis: what's the result of the following on that box: dig archive.ubuntu.com
[21:20] <Meaxis> ; <<>> DiG 9.11.5-P4-5.1ubuntu2.1-Ubuntu <<>> archive.ubuntu.com
[21:20] <Meaxis> A
[21:20] <walter__> :-(
[21:21] <bertand[m]> Meaxis whats inside your /etc/apt/sources.list??
[21:21] <sarnold> pastebin the whole output?
[21:21] <Meaxis> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu eoan main restricted universe multiverse
[21:21] <Meaxis> sarnold of the dig command? If yes, that's the whole output
[21:22] <sarnold> Meaxis: *two* lines?
[21:22] <Meaxis> does it only show two lines?
[21:22] <sarnold> Meaxis: one of them consistenting entirely of the letter "A"?
[21:22] <sarnold> yes, two lines
[21:22] <Mordoc> Meaxis: Was there an answer section? If not you have a DNS issue on that box...
[21:22] <sarnold> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DnZqCNVf7B/
[21:22] <Meaxis> apaprently it failed
[21:22] <Meaxis> hold on
[21:22] <Meaxis> https://pastebin.com/XPsVA5bC
[21:22] <Meaxis> Here
[21:22] <Meaxis> There is an answer section
[21:23] <sarnold> much better :) both those numbers are ones I get back, too, and I can ping them both
[21:24] <sarnold> Meaxis: can you use w3m or lynx or similar on that machine to browse to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/eoan/ ?
[21:25] <Meaxis> I don't know any of them so I assume they are not installed by default, however, I can try to ping it
[21:25] <Meaxis> Oh wait
[21:26] <Meaxis> forgot how ping worked
[21:26] <sarnold> ping's not a bad starting point, but it uses icmp protocol rather than tcp
[21:26] <Meaxis> Putting the results on pastebin
[21:27] <Meaxis> https://pastebin.com/Fwy3iUEJ
[21:27] <Meaxis> Here
[21:27] <Mordoc> Meaxis: If lynx of w3m isn't installed this would at least let you see the html curl http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/eoan/ | cat
[21:28] <Meaxis> It has a counter, but no html
[21:29] <Meaxis> So I retried
[21:29] <Meaxis> and now it displays HTML
[21:29] <Meaxis> the same HTML than the one you have when accessing it from a browser
[21:30] <sarnold> oh man 82 ms, you're a lot closer to the mirrors than I am :)
[21:31] <sarnold> Meaxis: "it has a counter" -- does it include anything else that might suggest *what* gave you a counter?
[21:31] <Meaxis> Time Spent
[21:32] <Meaxis> on the first try: kept waiting for a response
[21:32] <Meaxis> on the second try: delivered the response instantly
[21:32] <Mordoc> Meaxis: Well it sounds like you got a response and some html so that's encouraging.
[21:32] <Mordoc> Meaxis: try a sudo apt update again then.
[21:32] <Meaxis> 0% [Waiting for headers]
[21:33] <Meaxis> where it would've usally been downloading
[21:34] <ragefire> Hello. I am having some troubles with vulkan on ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Has anyone else had similar issues?
[21:36] <genii> ragefire: Are you using the standard repositories only, or did you also add the grphics-drivers official PPA ?
[21:37] <genii> Hm, Focal drivers actually haven't landed there yet
[21:38] <ragefire> I suppose that's why it's not working
[21:38] <walter__> big problem sirs, I removed and installed ibus, but the problem of keyboard persists
[21:39] <Meaxis> WAIT WAIT WAIT
[21:39] <Meaxis> I THINK IT WORKED
[21:39] <Meaxis> Or at least it fetched something
[21:40] <Meaxis> Mordoc sarnold https://pastebin.com/ytHpAknR
[21:40] <sarnold> Meaxis: does your machine actually speak ipv6?
[21:40] <Mordoc> Meaxis: That's great. Sounds like the connection of the box isn't awesome. Something doesn't seem right...
[21:40] <Meaxis> I assume
[21:41] <Meaxis> Let me check
[21:41] <Meaxis> My host reported no outages
[21:41] <sarnold> oh, hah, your ping results showed AAAA output..
[21:42] <walter__> eternaly grateful for any help...
[21:42] <sarnold> Meaxis: I wonder why your dig output didn't include AAAA answers? *very* strange
[21:44] <oerheks> i wonder what this is, vpn service or bare metal
[21:44] <Meaxis> It has IPV6 sarnold
[21:53] <GBGames> I have an HP Officejet 5740. Ubuntu 18.04 LTS sees it just fine, but I'm not sure how to change the settings, such as double-sided, color vs grayscale, etc. When I print a document, the options in the app don't have an effect, and changing things in  Settings> Devices> Printers also seems to have no effect.
[21:53] <tripleb> Bashing-om
[21:54] <GBGames> So I can print, but I can't seem to change how I can print.
[21:55] <tripleb> Inodes that were part of a corrupt orphan linked list found fix?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> tripleb: yes.
[21:55] <Meaxis> sarnold Mordoc apparently upgrade seems to half work, most suceed but some fail.
[21:56] <sarnold> Meaxis: it sure feels like some percentage of your http requests are either being directed to somewhere else, or some proxy is corrupting them
[21:56] <Meaxis> I have no proxy installed
[21:56] <sarnold> your ISP may
[21:57] <Meaxis> Alright, I'll get in touch in them.
[21:57] <Meaxis> Thanks for the help.
[21:57] <sarnold> the other day a guy in here said he'd been trying to do upgrades for a month; his vpn was doing some unclean proxy things on his connection, he had no idea..
[21:57] <sarnold> Meaxis: which, might be a way to test, pop up a vpn to a 'clean' network elsewhere, and tunnel these over the vpn?
[21:58] <sarnold> tripleb: when fsck asks a question I always laugh -- there's like six people on the planet who can interpret the questions at all... imho it ought to ask once, at start, "are you sure you want this tool to try to repair changes?" and just leave it at that... asking over and over again is a waste of time
[22:05] <Meaxis> Any recommendations that work through SSH
[22:05] <Meaxis> (also forgot to post that a few minutes ago, sorry sarnol)
[22:05] <Meaxis> sarnold*
[22:06] <Mordoc> Meaxis: I think sarnold is on to something good here.
[22:09] <sarnold> Meaxis: ssh would be super handy.. but I don't know offhand what incantation it would take to do the job
[22:12] <sarnold> Meaxis: maybe, socat TCP-LISTEN on the remote peer? it's been ages since I've used socat..
[22:15] <oerheks> i wonder what this is, vpn service or bare metal
[22:26] <arooni> quesiton; on ubuntu 18.04  fc-conflist ;; command not found;  how do i get it?
[22:28] <Bashing-om> arooni: comtext ?
[22:28] <oerheks> fc-conflist ?? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/fc.1posix.html
[22:28] <Bashing-om> context*
[22:28] <sarnold> $ apt-file search fc-conflist
[22:28] <sarnold> fontconfig: /usr/bin/fc-conflist
[22:29] <lalitmee> Hey Guys, I am facing a bit wierd problem in my Ubuntu 18.04 and that is my Wi-fi keeps getting disconnected and my laptop hangs at the same time.
[22:29] <arooni> +/usr/bin/fc-conflist: command not found
[22:29] <lalitmee> Anyone has any idea about this issue?
[22:29] <arooni> was trying to get color emojis working in alacritty lolz
[22:31] <oerheks> it is part of fontconfig; apt-get install fontconfig
[22:31] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/2.12.6-0ubuntu2
[22:31] <kostkon> only available in 19.04 and later releases it seems https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=disco&arch=any&mode=exactfilename&searchon=contents&keywords=fc-conflist
[22:32] <oerheks> o la la, new
[22:32] <lalitmee> This issue is so irritating that I was gonna reinstall my Ubuntu but I have a lot of configs. So I thought of asking you guys.
[22:34] <oerheks> lalitmee, check dmesg, journalcrl to see what happens in the logs?
[22:35] <lalitmee> oerheks: can you help me with the command?
[22:36] <oerheks> journalctl -b -0 shows messages from the current boot, journalctl -b -1 from the previous boot
[22:36] <oerheks> check that last one
[22:36] <oerheks> !paste
[22:38] <lalitmee> oerheks: thanks for the command and this is the log of the current boot. there was nothing for the previos boot
[22:38] <lalitmee> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2zwfjbZHnX/
[22:41] <oerheks> oh, only that log contains a crash..
[22:42] <Bashing-om> arooni: 18.04: my system; fontconfig does not include the fc-conflist tool.
[22:42] <lalitmee> oerheks: I see this too `Apr 29 08:18:34 lalit systemd[1]: nvidia-persistenced.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.`
[22:42] <lalitmee> nvidia service failed
[22:43] <oerheks> lots of espanso.service errors...
[22:43] <arooni> Bashing-om:i dont think we get it
[22:43] <arooni> ubuntu 19.04 and later
[22:43] <lalitmee> I am removing this espanso
[22:43] <arooni> i guess no more color emojis dreams for me in alacritty :\
[22:43] <oerheks> espanso unregister # might help
[22:44] <oerheks> systemctl --user disable espanso.service
[22:44] <lalitmee> what was the crash you saw?
[22:46] <oerheks> how did you install it, as snap?
[22:46] <lalitmee> yeah it was snap
[22:46] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/install/espanso/ubuntu
[22:46] <lalitmee> I removed it using snap only
[22:47] <oerheks> the -- classic option might give a better experience.. sudo snap install espanso --classic
[22:47] <kostkon> arooni, there's always this https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/11/open-source-emoji-set
[22:47] <lalitmee> oerheks: but you know this hanging and wifi issue I started facing yesterday when I was trying to install https://lutris.net/
[22:47] <oerheks> else it stays in confinement, maybe the root of those errors
[22:47] <arooni> kostkon: that page redirects to a 201 not found error
[22:47] <oerheks> lutris..
[22:48] <lalitmee> This is an open source gaming platform. I have espanso from a long time but that didn't give any error earlier. from yesterday its happening
[22:48] <SupaYoshi> anyoen here that owns an accoutn on bios-mods.com?
[22:48] <kostkon> arooni, loads fine here
[22:48] <lalitmee> oerheks: yeah lutris
[22:48] <lalitmee> now I have uninstalled it.
[22:48] <SupaYoshi> Im trying to access a download, but their activation email aint sending.
[22:48] <arooni> now it does
[22:48] <Bashing-om> arooni: ^ Loads fine here also.
[22:49] <arooni> the thing is even if i did install another emoji font; it seems like ubuntu doesn't want to let them render in alacritty (which does support color emojis)
[22:49] <arooni> i already tried with the google noto set
[22:50] <Meaxis> sarnold and Mordoc, update: looks like it gets better. apt update throws no error
[22:50] <kostkon> arooni, ok
[22:50] <lalitmee> oerheks: what do you say? I should restart and try it. if it hangs or not now?
[22:50] <sarnold> Meaxis: nice :)
[22:51] <sarnold> Meaxis: apt will cache what it can, and run it often enough and you might just get all of it downloaded..
[22:51] <Meaxis> Oh ok
[22:52] <oerheks> lalitmee, i have no manual for #lutris, they do have a channel here on #freenode
[22:54] <lalitmee> oerheks: have you heard about Brave Browser?
[23:00] <oerheks> never used it, it is available as snap https://snapcraft.io/install/brave/ubuntu
[23:04] <arooni> has anyone gotten color emojis working on ubuntu 18.04?  i just see black and white ones
[23:10] <Synx_hm> Any x11/nvidia driver experts here, i am having a hell of a time getting the nvidia binary drivers to take, ive blacklisted the nouveau drivers but they still load when checked with lshw
[23:11] <Synx_hm> For the record im using secure boot but as far as i can tell that is working correctly
[23:11] <Mordoc> sarnold: You were very patient with Meaxis, well done...
[23:11] <sarnold> heh, thanks Mordoc, but maexis was definitely on the happier end of the spectrum -- a little too reluctant to just pastebin the errors, but still, we got there :) hehe
[23:16] <lalitmee> oerheks: I think I may have found the problem. See this screenshot http://i.imgur.com/Ygitv3z.png
[23:17] <lalitmee> And there is a stackoverflow question related to the same error which I am facing: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1105037/18-10-new-install-freezes-with-intel-pipe-update-end-i915-atomic-update-fail
[23:19] <sarnold> ouch
[23:56] <Biruwa> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Desktop. If I lock my Ubuntu screen using the Lock button at the upper right corner of the screen, would that end any active SSH or RSYNC sessions?
[23:56] <Biruwa> Thank you in advance. Regards.