[01:17] <asjid> i am using kubuntu 20.04 on lenovo thinkpad t460s. how can i login with fingerprint.
[01:45] <jtatria> Hello all. Anyone here with a working nvidia prime installation? I just installed 20.04 from scratch, and prime render offloading ("On demand" in nvidia settings) does not work. It was working perfectly in 19.10.
[01:58] <valorie> !nvidia | jtatria
[01:59] <valorie> I have the system76 PPA enabled, since I have sys76 laptop
[01:59] <valorie> 20.04 perfect for me so far
[02:05] <jtatria> valorie, does tha include nvidia prime render offloading?
[02:05] <valorie> I don't know what that is?
[02:07] <valorie> https://launchpad.net/~system76-dev/+archive/ubuntu/stable <-- maybe more info there
[02:07] <valorie> they told me to do it so I did
[02:09] <jtatria> valorie, so, laptops with dual gpus (an integratd one, usually intel and a discrete one, in my case nvidia), render grpahics-intensive applications off-screen on the discrete gpu, and then pass that to the integrated gpu to show on the screen.
[02:09] <valorie> ok
[02:10] <valorie> I believe that my laptop has both intell and nvidia
[02:10] <jtatria> this is known as "render offloading", and was not supported until recently: only last year nvidia submitted patches to xserver to have this capability working
[02:10] <jtatria> this was working perfect in ubuntu 19.04
[02:10] <jtatria> lbut it is broken now
[02:10] <valorie> :(
[02:10] <jtatria> valorie, ok we can check if your config is working
[02:10] <valorie> there is a special nvidia PPA
[02:11] <valorie> in the second link that ubottu posted
[02:11] <jtatria> would you mind sharing the output of $ glxinfo | grep 'OpenGL vendor' ?
[02:13] <valorie> no output to that
[02:13] <valorie> shouldn't that pipe to a file or pastebin?
[02:14] <jtatria> nono, just enter the 'glxinfo' command, and pipe that to grep: glexinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor"
[02:14] <jtatria> glxinfo*
[02:14] <jtatria> if you have an intel integrated card, it shod say: "OpenGL vendor string: Intel"
[02:15] <valorie> I pasted in exactly what you wrote
[02:15] <valorie> there was no output
[02:15] <valorie> just >
[02:15] <jtatria> maybe you left in the $?
[02:16] <valorie> so I evidently do not
[02:16] <valorie> no
[02:16] <jtatria> well, there should be _some_ output t glxinfo :)
[02:16] <valorie> glxinfo | grep 'OpenGL vendor
[02:16] <valorie> >
[02:16] <jtatria> oooh
[02:16] <jtatria> '
[02:16] <valorie> lol
[02:16] <jtatria> you missed the last '
[02:16] <jtatria> :
[02:16] <jtatria> :)
[02:18] <valorie> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3fGr7Rqtgy/
[02:19] <jtatria> ok, that's bad
[02:19] <jtatria> so, the long explanation
[02:20] <valorie> what's bad?
[02:20] <valorie> my config?
[02:20] <jtatria> IF your system does indeed have a dual GPU setup, with both intel and nvidia, glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor" should output: OpenGL vendor string: Intel. that meeans that applications are being rendered by default in the intel card.
[02:21] <jtatria> and then the output of
[02:21] <jtatria> __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor" should say Nvidia
[02:22] <jtatria> that is, with default settings, render on intel, with those variables set, render to nvidia
[02:22] <jtatria> my problem, is that I get the error you got when trying the second option
[02:22] <jtatria> but Intel with the first.
[02:22] <jtatria> you have some issue with your gpu setup :(
[02:23] <jtatria> but i guess is to enalbe features you don't use?
[02:23] <valorie> I'm not a gamer
[02:23] <valorie> I've seen no problems
[02:23] <jtatria> thats what i meant, if it works for you, it works.
[02:23] <jtatria> but unfortunately you ahve a different setup than what i'm trying to achieve.
[02:23] <jtatria> thanks in any case :)
[02:23] <valorie> ok
[02:24] <valorie> sorry I couldn't help
[02:24] <jtatria> no problem!
 @jtatria, I have hybrid Nvidia 960m laptop here.  NVidia offloading seems to be working fine.
[02:42] <jtatria> IrcsomeBot awesome. might i ask you some questions?
[02:42] <jtatria> which driver and xserver are you using?
[02:43] <jtatria> IrcsomeBot and what is the output of both $ glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor" and $ __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor" ?
 440.82, xorg/focal,now 1:7.7+19ubuntu14
[02:45] <source_> hello
 OpenGL vendor string: Intel, OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
 @source_, hi
[02:46] <jtatria> ok, so your setup is working... i wonder what's wrng with mine...
[02:46] <source_> oh hey I am very new to IRC and linux in general
 welcome aboard.
[02:47] <source_> a friend of mine told me to drop by here when i face any bugs
[02:47] <jtatria> IrcsomeBot is there a config file in /etc/X11 ?
[02:47] <jtatria> aka, a xorg.conf file or a  xorg.conf.d directory?
 On my laptop.  xorg is default config here.
[02:48] <source_> i've been greeted with black screen with no way to access my session after suspending
[02:48] <jtatria> IrcsomeBot, that would be an ampty conf?
[02:50] <ivan_on_trac> Is there already an upgrade from version 19.10 to 20.04?
 xorg files have moved to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[02:50] <jtatria> @IrcsomeBot ok. mind listing contents of that dir?
 On my desktop, I have custom monitor settings in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf
 @source_, Can you see a mouse pointer or is your screen fully black?
[02:51] <jtatria> @IrcsomeBot and this is vanilla 20.04? no extra ppas?
 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NYkCPRBShX/
[02:52] <source_> @DarinMiller its fully black
 I have this ppa installed: __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia glxinfo | grep "OpenGL vendor"
 https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:54] <jtatria> @IrcsomeBot ok, ill give a try
[02:54] <jtatria> thanks
 @source_, if you type ctrl-alt+t, does a terminal show up?
 If not, what happens if you type ctrll+alt+f2?
[02:56] <source_> ctrl alt f2 doesnt help
 @DarinMiller, What video card is installed?
[02:56] <source_> i have not tried ctrl alt t
[02:56] <source_> and i have a ryzen 2500u with vega 8 graphics
 hmm, I have little experience with AMD cards. But recommend trying a different driver.  You have the option of 2 different open source AMD drivers and the Proprietary AMD driver, but I would have to search the net to figure out how to enable each one.
[03:01] <source_> i am not sure if there already were any drivers when i installed the system so i added this ppa `ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers` and instlled them
[03:05] <source__> argh how do i save sessions
[03:06] <source__> irc sessions i mean
[03:06] <jtatria> @IrcsomeBot worked perfect.
 @jtatria, Glad to hear!
[03:07] <jtatria> @IrcsomeBot sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa; sudo apt-update; sudo apt dist-upgrade; shutdown -r now and now everything works great. thanks!
 @source__, How are you connected to IRC?
[03:07] <source_> konversation?
 Konversation, Telegram, etc?
[03:08] <source_> konversation yes
 Are you trying to save the contents of the  connection or the joined channel?
[03:10] <source_> no i wasn't able to join with my old nickname
[03:10] <source_> but then again the connection would have been terminated right?
[03:11] <source_> i gave ctrl+alt+t a try so suspended my system but it didnt work so had to do a hard reboot
[03:11] <DarinMiller> I am not an IRC expert, hopefully someone who knows more about IRC's will speak up.
[03:11] <source_> yeah
[03:13] <DarinMiller> for a gentle reboot (assuming the system is alive enough to respond to keyboard input),  hold down the alt key and type reisub.
[03:13] <DarinMiller> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[03:15] <source_> oh i see i did not know that
[03:16] <source_> after suspend logs should be in /var/logs/kern.log right?
 Sorry to interrupt
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/VZpr8CIA/file_28499.jpg
 It's taking 1 min and 30 secs to boot up
 Anything I can disable or something?
 Thank you
[06:06] <valorie> @mello009 that seems very slow
[06:07] <valorie> I think most use "bootchart" to analyze the whole process
[06:07] <valorie> !info bootchart
 Yeah
[06:07] <valorie> !bootchart
[06:08] <valorie> I have SSDs so mine is very fast
 That will give me detailed?
[06:12] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:14] <lordievader> mello009: You've disabled all the services you do not use?
[06:19] <k-linux> what is this
[06:20] <lordievader> IRC, an ancient chat protocol.
[06:29] <valorie> lol
[06:29] <valorie> hi lordievader
[06:32] <lordievader> Morning valorie
[06:32] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:44] <valorie> ok-ish
[06:44] <valorie> how are you faring?
 Good night
[07:12] <lordievader> Doing alright here
[07:43] <jotaro111> hello
[07:44] <jotaro111> wow irc
[08:18] <lordievader> 👋
[08:46] <akantor> hi everyone, installed kubuntu 20.04, have some doubt is it ok to disable KSguard from startup?
 Hey all
[11:33] <Clqy> Hi, I have all sorts of problems and Im well in over my head relating to partitions, grub menu, dual boot, lost data etc... Im running kubuntu. Is there somewhere i can get some help or at least an idea of where to look
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <lordievader> Clqy: If you explain your issues we might be able to help you
[11:45] <Clqy> well the first problem is when i turn on my computer it loads straight into grub console
[11:47] <Clqy> i started with a dual boot windows 10 kubuntu, ive managed to delete  partitions and im prettty sure kubuntu is gone, but windows is still there i just cant boot into windows
[11:47] <Clqy> the only way i have access to my computer is through a live boot from my external hd uefi, through the bios menu
[11:52] <Clqy> maybe my problem is better solved in windows but i dont actually want to keep windows except most of my photos and videos are stored in that partition becquse i wiped my exernal hd
 Can't you just try to backup your data and try to reinstall kubuntu?
 As you said you don't want to keep windows, so just do a backup and reinstall everything should be a viable option?
[12:01] <Clqy> at the reinstall disk selection screen it shows only my ex hd, manual installation gives me partition choices, but theres an error something about filesystems
[12:02] <Clqy> how do i back up windows from a live boot of linux? do i need to create a live boot of windows to reinstall? ive only got one ex hd, but i dont want to ttouch it;;; it currently has kubutu iso on it, and i dont want to totuch it so that my friend will be able to try recover as much as he can
 Mmm I would try to boot kubuntu from the live usb and enter the windows partition in your pc. If you have aniother device with free space try to copy the files into the device. If you don't have another device, you could upload the files in your windows partition to a cloud service
 Just to backup them
 You could create a bootable windows usb pen drive to reinstall it if you want but first try to backup all of your data
 I don't know How many free GB do you need but you can pretty much recover everything just using one or two services for free like dropbox or Google Drive.
[12:16] <Clqy> ive got a mega that i just signed upto, currently at 85G so thats not a problem
 So what's the problem then? Just try to backup all of your data from your pc to the cloud starting kubuntu via live usb. After you did all the backup, we can try to reinstall everything and format the HDD
[12:18] <Clqy> where/how do i backup a different partition? g sync will do that?  then the problem i have is that i dont have a pen drive, cant get one until tuesday maybe...
 Do you want to keep all the partition? I use clonezilla to do that
 You have to burn on the usb drive a bootable ISO of clonezilla and do the backup
 But I think you're cloning all the partition with all its problems
 Better to just save the data and start from scratch
[12:20] <Clqy> i dont know, this is a new (to me) pc, i just want to keep my photos which are currently saved in windows
[12:21] <Clqy> theres nothing else on it
[12:24] <Clqy> so Im currently on the live boot kubuntu, how do i find my photos on the windows partition? and then upload them? do i first have to mount it somewhere, then what§
 If you start the pc with the live usb of kubuntu on your usb drive try to open Dolphin. Are you able to access the windows files on the partition?
[12:24] <Clqy> no
 Just open  dolphin and you'll see the hdd
 So that means that you don't see the windows partition in dolphin? What do you see?
[12:25] <Clqy> nope i think because ive had to run kubuntu through ufei application in bios and windows is on bios§
 Mmmm i think that you should still be able to see the hdd
[12:26] <Clqy> in dolphin under devices it has "/overlay"
 Go into / folder
 You should see the folder "media" click on it and see if you can find a device to mount
[12:28] <Clqy> do you mean home/media?
[12:28] <airi> Hi! I just installed Kubuntu 20.04 on my laptop & currently having trouble logging in. Reinstalled more than thrice already & DuckDuckGo'd something like changing to nosplash in grub. Though I am not entirely sure how to update-grub or what I did is correct. I made the root partition and home partition separately. Any help in solving this would be
[12:28] <airi> appreciated :)
[12:29] <airi> *or rather it doesn't even go to login
 Clqy: yes
[12:30] <Clqy> there is no mediq file there
[12:31] <airi> Also tried recovery mode, by the way, but it is just stuck
[12:31] <Clqy> *folder
 You should try via Konsole to see the devices that kubuntu detects
 Try ls /dev
 In the terminal you should see all the devices
[12:36] <Clqy> that brings up many things lots of different colors, sda1 which i beleive is my hard drive is orange
 Yep so there is an hdd
 That kubuntu can see
 You should also see sda1, 2,3 etc..
[12:37] <Clqy> correct upto 6
[12:37] <Clqy> alll orange also
 Yes because you have different partitions
 You could try to mount it
 Btw before you do that, do you have the "Device" section in dolphin when you open it?
 It's where you should see your hdd
[12:41] <Clqy> yes there is something there called /overlay
 What's inside there?
[12:42] <Clqy> bin boot cdrom dev etc home lib
[12:42] <Clqy> etc
[12:43] <Clqy> folders
 Try to run lsscsi
 So you should better understand how it's named your hdd
[12:45] <Clqy> [2:0:0:0]    disk    ATA      ST500DM002-1BD14 KC48  /dev/sda
 Ok so just do: … Mkdir /mydrive
 After you created the folder where we will mount the drive type: … $ sudo mount /dev/sda /mydrive
 You should see the content of the drive in the /mydrive
[12:58] <Clqy> what is mydrive? i got disconnected did i miss a step?
 My drive is just a folder that we create
 As a mountpoint where we mount the hdd
 You should see the content of the hdd in that folder
 https://linuxjourney.com/lesson/mounting-and-unmounting-filesystems
[13:07] <Clqy> mount: /mydrive: /dev/sda already mounted or mount point busy.
 So the hdd is aldready mounted?
[13:10] <Clqy> i dont know
 try to  write cd .. in the terminal
 after that write ls
[13:12] <Clqy> ok so for somereason it looks like its already mounted at /cdrom , no idea why
[13:12] <Clqy> ├─sda2   8:2    0 242.1G  0 part /cdrom
 oh so just try to reach the folder cdrom
 and see if you can access your files
[13:14] <Clqy> yep wow... so now ill upload them to a cloud and come back in 2 days =)
 ahah yes. I am happy for you
 I am sorry if I couldn't help you better than this
[13:24] <Clqy> no its just the first step, im a long way from the finish but you have definatly helped me find my path
[13:24] <Clqy> thankyou
[13:26] <samfisher> Hi. I somehow deleted my /boot partition and now shows as /dev/sdb1 2G EFI System. I cannot boot ubuntu anymore and all guides to chroot and reinstall haven't worked
 You're welcome
[13:48] <Clqy> If i dont want windows back, after ive backed up everything how do i get back to ubuntu, i have tired to reinstall it on my live boot  it only gives me the option to insall on my hard disk
[13:49] <Clqy> i can go to manual and select a partition where it can go 200G free and it tells me
[13:50] <Clqy> no root file system is defined pleqse correct from partitioning menu
[13:51] <Clqy> once ive got my files im not interested in windows whatsoever
 what does it mean? You should install it on your hard disk
[13:55] <Clqy> at the disk setup screen the only option is my hqrd disk where the live boot is
 Don't you want to install Kubuntu on the hard disk?
 Why you should install it non your pendrive if you already have it on the pendrive?
 I don't understand
[13:57] <Clqy> there is lots of available space on sda, where windows currently is, and another partition where kubuntu was yesterday, isnt this the best place to install?
[13:58] <Clqy> my live boot is on usb external hard disk, there is files there that need to be recovered when i can go visit friends
[13:59] <Clqy> the disk setup only allows me to choose the usb external hd.
 Oh now It is more clear
[14:02] <Clqy> yes sorry i mis spoke
 Mmm the weird thing is that you can't select the internal hdd to install the system
 Maybe you could boot again into liveusb and try to format the internal hdd?
 You can use some programs
 If I am not wrong gparted could let you format the disk
[14:04] <Clqy> ok, like gparted or something?
 Yes
 Try to select the internal hdd and format it
 If you did the backup thing successfully
[14:05] <Clqy> yes =) i wont do tha mistake twice
[14:06] <Clqy> and if i install manually and create a new partition table? i would have to follow instructions online but i think its possible
 You can do that but first you have to see your hard drive in the installation manager
 If it does not show up I don't know if you're able to modify the partition table on it
[14:16] <Clqy> in the first screen where i can choose guided, or guided encrypted etc, it shows only external hd... but if i choose manual setup it lists everything including the sda1-6 and everything else, there is a button to write a new partition table
 Oh ok just try to format the drive then from the installation menu
 Or delete all the partitions
 Format and after that try to reinstall in guided mode
[14:20] <Clqy> its the simplest way right? how do i know how to write the partition table? will the installation process write it?
 Yes if you format maybe it wull show again the hdd
 And then you can just install it in guided mode
 It just writes itself the partition table
 You should see the hdd divided in two different partition at least
 One for the system and one for the space where you can put your files
[14:25] <Clqy> i think guided is best for me, so i will try format through gparted first
 Hello is kubuntu everything same as Ubuntu
 Like software center having option to use priperaitary drivers?
 @bkoustubha, Yes
 Thanks
 So it has all features, then we'll thanks
 @bkoustubha, no, is much better. 😉
 This is the error I had
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/QLC0RGoP/file_28534.jpg
 I downloaded from torrent
 I suggest you to retry to download iy
 It
 From the website. Maybe the ISO is corrupted?
 @deathnote091, Corrupt download, or faulty write to USB, or borked USB
 Yeah
 Anyone downloaded from torrent has any issue like this?
 Always best to recheck the data on a torrent, once the download is done. And/or checksum the iso you got
 I did checksum
 (Photo, 1280x175) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/JFRfTFR1/file_28535.jpg
[16:02] <masonbee-M1> I doenloaded my iso from torrent and it was fine.
 Maybe it's my hardware or usb idk
 It just bugs me 1 error and I want to know 😅
[16:03] <masonbee-M1> I got that exact error after writing the usb with the kde startup creator.
[16:03] <masonbee-M1> Try dd, or swap usb.
 I did it with etcher
[16:04] <masonbee-M1> Well, there goes that theory then.
 Try to download it again
 It has happened to me once. Redownloading a new image worked
 I think it's my usb
 But it's new
 @RandomPaulTelegram, May be but this redownloading works for me
 Never had any problem with it
[16:07] <masonbee-M1> So was the one I wrote to.
 I redownloaded same result
 @deathnote091, I have no idea then
 I will try different writes
 And let you know
 Thank you guys for the help
[16:08] <BluesKaj> download from here https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
 @deathnote091, yes, I downloaded the .iso, not by torrent, checksum was OK. … I created the usb bootable and when boot, a check file system was triggered, and showed a few of folders that not exist. nothing to worry about. I continued without problems.
 @da_ni_el, Oh so you had this problem too
 But why it has folders which not exists
 😅
[16:19] <stab_> Good day gents
[16:22] <stab_> is compositing entirely necessary to prevent tearing? I could really live without the desktop effects
 (Photo, 1280x595) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/pAWPcvMt/file_28537.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x641) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/YADbNHwp/file_28538.jpg
 (Photo, 1280x853) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/0bFClS4e/file_28539.jpg
 Oh
[16:37] <georgiou> Hi, I have some sound problems with 20.04. Could anybody help ?
[16:37] <jukebohi> I don't know very much about it georgiou, but please explain what your situation is
[16:38] <georgiou> jukebohi, I have filed a bug report here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1875714
[16:38] <georgiou> jukebohi, main problem is the headphone jack not working
[16:40] <jukebohi> I read your bug report. Sorry, cannot help you with that. Sounds like the upgrade didn't go 100% a-ok
[16:41] <georgiou> don't how to find the problem. is it a kernel problem? Is it a pulse problem ?
[16:41] <georgiou> was wondering if I could a 18.04 kernel
[16:42] <georgiou> or pulse from 18.04
 georgiou check with alsamixer in terminal if the headphone out is muted
 georgiou: alsamixer, then select yout soundcard with F6, then check the headphone out level and see if the M under it is active or not use arrow keys to select the headphone out and unmute with M key.
[16:47] <georgiou> no mute
[16:48] <georgiou> something must be up with the sound profile when switching output
[17:02] <jukebohi> I found a way to get a list of all packages I have installed manually https://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages
[17:03] <jukebohi> How would I check such a list for versions. I mean if version of some app is the same on 20.04 as it is on 18.04, then I can reuse the config and still get a clean install
 Does anyone's fingerprint working on kubuntu 20.04?
[17:32] <yago> hola
 @da_ni_el, Thanks
[17:56] <georgiou> found a workaround for the headphone problem I am having. workaround is to run a script on acpi event
[17:56] <georgiou> https://askubuntu.com/questions/640741/what-code-is-executed-when-headphones-are-disconnected/642404#642404
[17:57] <georgiou> I have made a scriipt that relead the driver that works when I am running it manually
[17:57] <georgiou> but cant' make it run on acpi event
[17:57] <georgiou> any ideas ?
[18:44] <jukebohi> So..
[18:48] <jukebohi> I have a list of software that I have manually installed on kubuntu 18.04, one per line. Is there a way to get the versions for those? Then I could make 2 lists and see the diff on what configs I can move safely
[18:49] <jukebohi> I used this 'comm -23 <(apt-mark showmanual | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)' from https://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages to get that list
[19:14] <masonbee-M1> jukebohi: I sort of did that yesterday but found it was easier to go through discover's already installed apps and write them down and then install each in a virtual machine to see what worked. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NcXtYc6wqM/
[19:16] <masonbee-M1> jukebohi: I also grabbed my config files for samba, crypttab, fstab, etc....
[19:17] <jukebohi> masonbee-M1: I'm asking my question for the very reason that I want to use diff to find out which software have same version number on 20.04 as it has in 18.04
[19:18] <Jame> hello
 Hey does kubuntu support secure boot?
[19:25] <masonbee-M1> jukebohi: Like this? sudo apt list --installed
[19:27] <jukebohi> I want to avoid getting anything that was triggered by something else, and that method gives me the list, but not with version numbers
[20:03] <Dakeiz> Hello everyone, I've been running Ubuntu 19.10 for a while now and I can't seem to get the update for 20.04. I've ran "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop" and other methods mentionned in the official documentation but I get the message "No new release found.". Could somebody help me, please?
[20:14] <valorie> Dakeiz: until the switch is flipped, you'll need to use -d instead: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[20:16] <valorie> d=development but until regular upgrades are offered, it's just 20.04
[20:18] <Dakeiz> valorie: When will the switch be flipped? ^^
[20:18] <Dakeiz> valorie: Will it keep me on the development channel? For how long?
[20:18] <valorie> when the release team decides to do it
[20:18] <valorie> no, it gives you plain old 20.04, as I said
[20:19] <valorie> if you use that same command *from* 20.04, then you would get groovy
[20:19] <valorie> which is not advised
[20:20] <Dakeiz> So I should wait for the "official" release, right?
[20:22] <dax> that's the recommendation, but if you do it now it'll work fine
[20:22] <dax> it's up to you
[20:22] <dax> valorie: (slight clarification: -d won't get you to groovy yet from any version, it's not seeded on changelogs.u.c)
[20:23] <valorie> aha
[20:23] <valorie> thanks, I'll fix that
[20:23] <valorie> in my brain
[20:24] <valorie> Dakeiz: I'm running 20.04 on two machines that I upgraded, and both are working wonderfully
[20:24] <valorie> that said, it's up to you
[20:24] <valorie> they are always fixing bugs
[20:24] <valorie> if you have nvidia in particular I might hold off -- although I had zero issues with nvidia
[20:26] <Dakeiz> Okay, I'll just wait a bit then! Just wanted to at least make sure I didn't have any problem on my side. Thank you for your help and have a nice evening!
[20:39] <wingedrhino> Can someone verify this for me? Go to System Settings in Kubuntu 20.04, search for shortcuts, go to the global shortcuts section, and try to assign meta+shift+right as a shortcut for some action. You'd be unable to enter it. meta+shift+left works though.
[20:53] <genii> wingedrhino: Meta-Shift-Right works here
[20:54] <genii> ( I just added it as a shortcut for Spectacle to capture current monitor)
[20:54] <wingedrhino> genii: yieks! I wonder why it doesn't on my ThinkPad L440.
[20:54] <wingedrhino> I'll try booting into my other laptop via the Live image and see if the issue is reproducible
[20:55] <genii> Maybe some problem with the physical right-key?
 Is there a suggested way to upgrade from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS?
[21:05] <genii> !ltsupgrade
 Ah, that's good.  I can wait.
[22:53] <kubuntu> Hello!
 Does anyone know if the Tier-1 OEM support (Ubuntu Certified Device) device-specific enablement available in stock Ubuntu 20.04 is included with Kubuntu 20.04?
[23:41] <oerheks> IrcsomeBot, there is no 20.04 cert entry on https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop
 Anyone had a login loop problem with ubuntu 19.10?
 I have this problem with one of my user logins😅 … The other user log in is well and good