[00:01] <sarnold> Biruwa: rsync and ssh and so on should keep working as usual
[00:01] <Biruwa> Thank you.
[00:01] <sarnold> Biruwa: though it's possible your desktop environment is configured to suspend or sleep or similar after some inactivity
[00:02] <Biruwa> I see. I'll double-check in my GUI settings, and make sure suspend or sleep is disabled.
[00:02] <Biruwa> I want to be able to lock my workstation, and walk away from it - while keeping on-going SSH and RSYNC operations uninterrupted.
[00:04] <sarnold> yeah, it's frustrating to return and find out the machine's done nothing useful for all but fifteen minutes..
[00:04] <pqatsi> Hello! Something need to be changed on ZFS while using SSDs with Ubuntu? I'm noticing a increased write on SSD while system is idle.
[00:05] <ducasse> pqatsi: file a bug
[00:05] <sarnold> compared against ext4 or compared against spinning metal drives?
[00:05] <sarnold> how are you measuring?
[00:06] <pqatsi> sarnold: watch -n1 zpool iostat
[00:06] <sarnold> pqatsi: aha :) that's a poor measure; use zpool iostat 1  instead
[00:06] <sarnold> the first output from zpool iostat is cumulative since boot
[00:07] <sarnold> pqatsi: when I'm doing IO-intensive things I tend to use zpool iostat -v 1
[00:07] <pqatsi> sarnold: indeed :)
[00:08] <pqatsi> sarnold: I'm specially concerned about ssd live. Before Ubuntu 20.04, i was using fedora with btrfs and without issues. ZFS on Linux is a new thing to me, but Im trying to check critical things that may deteriorate the ssd
[00:08] <pqatsi> sarnold: Another thing I dont know if its a bug or not: zpool trim -d rpool return "cannot trim '/dev/sdb4': trim operations are not supported by this device"
[00:08] <sarnold> pqatsi: not a bad idea, but most ssd lifetimes these days are things like "completely fill the drive from scratch every day for years"
[00:09] <sarnold> pqatsi: oh that's too bad ;(
[00:09] <pqatsi> sarnold: You got a point here. I'm *very* concerned about the Ubuntu decision to only erases snapshots when disk is near to be full
[00:09] <pqatsi> sarnold: Its a bug?
[00:09] <pqatsi> sarnold: With btrfs I did not got the trim command refused
[00:09] <sarnold> pqatsi: I think the last time I went looking for that error message, it's because zfs is looking specifically for devices that *zero* data when they are trimmed -- and some devices don't promise to return zeros, they may return garbage or what was there before
[00:10] <pqatsi> sarnold: o.0
[00:11] <pqatsi> sarnold: hdparm -I /dev/sdb | grep -i trim returns "* Data Set Management TRIM supported (limit 8 blocks) and * Deterministic read ZEROs after TRIM"
[00:11] <pqatsi> sarnold: I also enabled autotrim on fs too
[00:12] <Biruwa> How do I reset the CPU colors in gnome-system-monitor? I read that I have to do something with dconf, but I'm not sure where to look...
[00:13] <sarnold> pqatsi: hrm. I wonder what's going on there then :/
[00:14] <pqatsi> sarnold: may strace give some tip or needs to enable debug someplace to get?
[00:14] <Synx_hm> Where is a good place to read on the current goings on with wayland and nvidia driver support
[00:14] <pqatsi> sarnold: Can you help-me to report this issue?
[00:15] <sarnold> pqatsi: lets head to #zfsonlinux, they may know off-hand what this is
[00:15] <pqatsi> sarnold: I'll go there, but a spoiler: removing -d (secure trim), worked apparently
[00:16] <sarnold> pqatsi: aya!
[00:16] <pqatsi> sarnold: But its a issue?
[00:16] <sarnold> pqatsi: no idea, now :)
[00:16] <pqatsi> I'll lead question to zfsonlinux so :)
[00:17] <Guma> Hello, I am working on script that need to check is specific snap application is installed. If not then install it. with deb I used dpkg-query -W --showformat
[00:20] <pqatsi> sarnold: About this perspective from Ubuntu to fill system with snapshots until FS is 80% full, how can we avoid this size of snapshots?
[00:20] <pqatsi> Also, there is a way to clean it properly?
[00:20] <pqatsi> (Including grub entries, etc)
[00:22] <sarnold> pqatsi: hmm, I don't know those; I installed following the old zfsonlinux wiki guide, so don't have the zsysd thing myself -- I learned to hate having snapshots on my bpool, and now keep them only on my rpool
[00:22] <sarnold> pqatsi: I hadn't been aware that was something we were doing, thanks :) I"ll have to look into it..
[00:31] <Synx_hm> sarnold, i think we discussed this yesterday or the day before but did you have to modify the initramfs update from the zfsonlinux wiki guide? the command they use in the guide flat out did not work for me, but produced no error so i didn't figure it out until i got to a grub menu with nothing in it haha
[00:31] <Synx_hm> put on the tasklist to do a PR for that
[00:32] <Synx_hm> maybe create a 20.04 updated guide that includes zfs encryption sans luks
[00:35] <ohmyfromage> my touchpad is broken and I can't right click. is there a magic way I can do a right click with only one mouse button?
[00:45] <ducasse> ohmyfromage: try https://askubuntu.com/questions/881939/libinput-how-to-map-different-tappings-to-buttons-tappingbuttonmap-has-no-effe
[00:58] <ducasse> ohmyfromage: in short, find the id of your touchpad with 'xinput list', then enable tapping with 'xinput set-prop $ID "libinput Tapping Enabled" 1 and set the mapping with 'xinput set-prop $ID "libinput Tapping Button Mapping Enabled" 1, 0'. you can now right-click with a doubletap and middleclick with three fingers
[00:59] <ducasse> where $ID is your touchpads id
[01:08] <RoseBus> is there a keyboard shortcut to suspend?
[01:09] <RoseBus> oh i can make one xD
[01:38] <frad> is there any way to increse the size of a picture? I don't necessarily want to increase its quality
[01:42] <jtatria> hello all. I'm having trouble getting Nvidia prime render offloading to work in a brand new install of ubuntu 20.04.
[01:43] <jtatria> previously this worked flawlesly in ubuntu 19.04/19.10 using the patched xserver and nvidia-435. Any one here had any luck getting it to work with the new nvidia-440 and xserver 1.20.8-2ubuntu2 ?
[02:07] <pineapplesweet> is it me or does ubuntu.com redirect to https://www.translatetheweb.com/ ??? feel like im going mad
[02:08] <pineapplesweet> right now
[02:08] <oerheks> no, it is you. clean your internet cache and restart browser
[02:09] <pineapplesweet> even in another web browser this happens
[02:10] <oerheks> maybe a router hijack, reboot it?
[02:11] <pineapplesweet> yea
[02:12] <pineapplesweet> never happened before
[02:12] <pineapplesweet> but it is a crappy isp router
[02:17] <pineapplesweet_> rebooted router still happens
[02:17] <pineapplesweet_> this os is very old ubuntu. had updates installed
[02:18] <pineapplesweet_> works now in links
[02:18] <pineapplesweet_> hmmm
[02:18] <jtatria> so... no one here with a working laptop nvidia installation?
[02:21] <pineapplesweet_> cleared cache and now real ubuntu.com loads
[02:33] <SourceSlayer> Heyo
[02:33] <luna_> hi
[02:34] <SourceSlayer> Hey, quick question,
[02:35] <SourceSlayer> If I install PostgreSQL database tools, does it always run a daemon in the background at every boot?
[02:35] <luna_> yeah
[02:36] <SourceSlayer> Is there anyway I could stop it from using resources when I'm not working with it?
[02:36] <genhaoqi> sudo systemsctl stop postgresql
[02:36] <SourceSlayer> I am just trying to learn with databases, I don't really need it most of the time
[02:36] <genhaoqi> to stop
[02:36] <SourceSlayer> Okay, is it possible to have it only activate when needed?
[02:37] <genhaoqi> sudo systemsctl disable postgresql
[02:37] <genhaoqi> to not start when boot
[02:37] <SourceSlayer> Okay, and I'm assuming "sudo systemsctl enable postgresql" when I'm going to use it?
[02:38] <genhaoqi> enable to start when boot
[02:38] <genhaoqi> start to start
[02:38] <SourceSlayer> Oh, so it should start on its own when needed?
[02:38] <SourceSlayer> Sorry, I'm new to this lol
[02:39] <genhaoqi> SourceSlayer: see https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html
[02:39] <jtatria> sudo systemsctl enable _service_ will add that service to the regular boot statup sequence
[02:40] <jtatria> sudo systemsctl start _service_ will start the given service for the current session
[02:40] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/databases-postgresql
[02:40] <jtatria> sudo systemsctl stop _service_ will stop the given service for the current session
[02:40] <jtatria> etc.
[02:40] <jtatria> SO... no one here has a working nvidia installation
[02:40] <jtatria> ?
[02:41] <SourceSlayer> Okay, thank you genhaoqi & jtatria
[02:45] <pineapplesweet_> grr my crappy old router that lacks updates... time to splash on a open source router! with updates!
[02:50] <lestac> how you do that? pineapplesweet :0
[02:53] <Synx_hm> Is there a proper procedure for switching from ubuntus default gnome setup to KDE plasma? i am using the regular 20.04 install media so i can get zfs on root
[02:56] <Bashing-om> !info kubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <Synx_hm> Bashing-om, thanks more curious if there is a correct procedure for de-gnome'ing the os? or is 'apt purge ubuntu-desktop' followed by a 'apt autoremove' enough
[03:00] <Bashing-om> Synx_hm: Well NO ! there is no real real good way. XX-desktop is a meta package to install a whole bunch of other packages. Now if you are handy I am aware of a script that one can adapt to remove an alternate DE.
[03:01] <Synx_hm> ya, mind pointing me in that direction
[03:01] <Synx_hm> i think what i'll prob try next is debootstrap from the live iso and just go direct to kubuntu-desktop
[03:01] <Bashing-om> Synx_hm: have a look here: https://github.com/aysiu/purebuntu .
[03:02] <eelstrebor> why isn't there an unbound.conf with the unbound package?
[03:03] <Synx_hm> Bashing-om, thanks much!
[03:03] <Bashing-om> Synx_hm: :D - My bit to try and help .
[03:11] <pineapplesweet_> lestac, https://www.turris.cz
[03:11] <pineapplesweet_> buts not cheap
[03:12] <pineapplesweet_> but as network now seams to be getting compromised, maybe dad wont mind the splash so much
[03:13] <illuminated> periodically my "copy" feature stops working
[03:13] <illuminated> I can't "copy" files and "paste" them to another folder
[03:13] <illuminated> and I can't "copy" text and "paste" it to somewhere
[03:13] <illuminated> has anyone ever ran into this before and can tell me how to get that working again?
[03:18] <genhaoqi> illuminated: Do you have authority?
[03:18] <illuminated> for what?
[03:18] <illuminated> I'm root if that's what you want to know
[03:22] <illuminated> seems other people with kde plasma have the same issue
[03:22] <illuminated> so I guess it's not an ubuntu thing, and I'm not using stock ubuntu with the canonical customized gnome3 or whatever they started using after they gave up on unity
[03:23] <genhaoqi> maybe other who use kde can help you
[03:24] <genhaoqi> goto kde channel
[03:28] <illuminated> is that #kde ?
[03:30] <genhaoqi> illuminated: "/j kde"
[03:46] <bgilb_> i have a cron job that executes a bash script, but it seems to be failing, is there anywhere i can look for command errors?
[03:47] <funhouse> Is it possible to disable cron in 18.04?
[03:54] <funhouse> scratch that how do you disable cron in ubuntu
[03:54] <funhouse> I keep getting The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an upstart job, but disabled is not supported for upstart jobs
[03:57] <luna_> Anyone had the login manager crashing on todays Kernel Update for 20.04?
[04:02] <luna_> think its becouse my SSD got full trying if thats it
[04:02] <luna_> yep thats solved it
[04:13] <bgilb_> wow im dumb
[04:13] <fabiobik> I found a old hard driver that has a .Encrypt folder with many encrypted folders inside.
[04:13] <bgilb_> was mixing up local vs prod server
[04:13] <fabiobik> how can i mount it?
[04:14] <fabiobik> I found a old hard driver that has a .Encrypt folder with many encrypted folders inside. how can i mount it?
[04:14] <fabiobik> thanks in advance
[05:27] <Saurabh009> Hi, could anyone let me know the procedure to enable the mobile broadband connection in the Ubuntu 18.04???
[05:31] <artipeng> Hey guys, I'm new ro IRC and was just banned from another server. I was told I was "connecting from multiple clients and talking to myself" Is that happening here?
[05:32] <artipeng> I honestly don't know what's going on
[05:51] <doug16k> artipeng, strange
[05:51] <doug16k> nothing abnormal coming up here
[06:14] <zapotah> does someone know why the debhelper python path for python3 has suddenly changed from being under /usr/share/python3/ to /usr/share/dh-python/ ?
[06:15] <zapotah> it used to be directly underneath python3 and is still on debian
[06:15] <zapotah> now the path to debhelper on ubuntu 20.04 is /usr/share/dh-python/dhpython/
[06:16] <zapotah> and while not exactly catastrophic, this does require patching the path in multiple softwares
[06:16] <zapotah> or is there some envvar that im not aware of that should be used?
[06:46] <stoiss> do others report in on nvidia drivers messing up 20.04 ?
[06:49] <theshagg> Stupid question: how do I restart libvirt in 20.04?
[06:55] <StatelessCat> Hi
[06:57] <ducasse> theshagg: systemctl restart libvirtd.service
[06:57] <theshagg> ducasse thanks!
[07:21] <oldguy> zapotah: on my machines it is still /usr/share/python3/debpython (ubuntu & Kubuntu 20.04)
[07:23] <zapotah> oldguy: if you upgrade in place, i suspect it is
[07:23] <zapotah> fresh install on the other hand...
[07:23] <oldguy> zapotah: no, both are fresh installs
[07:23] <zapotah> thats...odd then
[07:24] <zapotah> oh
[07:24] <zapotah> debpython is still in place
[07:24] <zapotah> however for whatever reason debhelper is not in there
[07:24] <zapotah> maybe a packaging bug?
[07:26] <oldguy> zapotah: my debpthon contains files
[07:27] <oldguy> zapotah: and I hve no dh--python on my systems
[07:31] <zapotah> oldguy: is debhelper.py in debpython there?
[07:32] <zapotah> oldguy: having files does not exactly mean much :P
[07:32] <zapotah> or if you install it, does it end up in debpython
[07:34] <oldguy> zapotah: files in folder are  __init__.py files.py interpreter.py option.py version.py and __pycache_
[07:36] <oldguy> zapotah: I must admit I dont know that this package is. I have checed on a freshly installed vm (is I have not installed anything) - The folder and files are as I have listed them
[07:38] <zapotah> oldguy: yes, i know that much, debhelper should however be in there and this is likely a packaging bug
[07:41] <oldguy> zapotah: i'm not really qualified to judge - though may I repeat that i cannot find any trace of  a folder called dh-python
[07:43] <zapotah> oldguy: because you do not have debhelper installed
[07:48] <oldguy> zapotah: My Bad I have confused  debpython and debhelper : (      I will install debhelper and check
[08:00] <badbodh> will 18.04 get kernel from 20.04 as hwe kernel or stick to the current version till eol ?
[08:04] <oldguy> zapotah: OK hve just pip3 install debhelper.  It was installed to ~/.local/python3.8/site-packages/    There is a file there called debhelper.py. It  can be imported .....
[08:06] <ducasse> badbodh: eventually it will get it
[08:07] <oldguy> zapotah: I still do not have a /usr/share/dh-python.   there is a /usr/share/debhelper. but that does not contain python scripts
[08:09] <badbodh> ok
[08:12] <tatertots> cheese works fine with integrated latptop webcam but browsers refuse to use cam, firefox, chrome and opera..anyone else make this observation
[08:16] <zapotah> oldguy: pip has different packaging
[08:16] <zapotah> and different paths
[08:16] <zapotah> oldguy: so i still suspect that this is a ubuntu packaging bug
[08:21] <absence> i'm on ubuntu 19.10, but do-release-upgrade says there's no new release found. how do i make it detect that 20.04 was released?
[08:24] <ducasse> absence: use -d
[08:24] <DJones> absence: There is always a delay before the upgrades show up, I think the release notes said it would be a few days, I'd say keep checking each day
[08:25] <oldguy> zapotah: I just  'apt download debhelper'  I then extracted the files from the package it contains a number of perl scripts, but no python files.  I don't  think it is a matter of packaging ... they seem to be different packages
[08:27] <absence> i see, will using -d have any other effects than forcing the upgrade? i see the option is called "development release"
[08:28] <zapotah> oldguy: propably dh-python in that case
[08:28] <zapotah> theres other issues with debhelper in regards to venv
[08:29] <zapotah> but those are besides the point
[08:39] <oldguy> zapotah:  I juust d'ld and extracted dh-python. This does contain dh-python/dhpyton/debhelper.py.  I think  I have already said - I have no Idea what this package does I dont think i can be of any further help
[08:40]  * oldguy off for breakfast
[08:55] <zapotah> oldguy: its for packaging python stuff into .deb
[08:56] <thongpv87> I can not play the audio though external monitor after update the kernel. :(
[08:59]  * oldguy back from breakfast
[08:59] <tatertots> use previous kernel
[09:00] <leeyaa> hello
[09:00] <luna_> hi
[09:00] <leeyaa> i have a local apt mirror that keeps several ubuntu releases. is it possible to tell apt-mirror to download only packages for specific release? I need to download focal, but i dont want to update the other versions.
[09:01] <thongpv87> Ah, this solve the problem: https://superuser.com/questions/845645/pulseaudio-how-to-rescan-audio-devices?noredirect=1&lq=1
[09:02] <oldguy> zapotah: great thanks  - I've just checked pypi - the packge insttalled by pip (debhelper) is for setting up a repo. It does contain a debhelper.py  This is not the same as the debhelper.,py
[09:02] <oldguy> in dh-helper
[09:03] <yossarianuk> I tried out ubuntu 20.04 last night - I am a long time linux desktop users (since mandrake linux in 2002 i have been Linux only - no windows) -  I usually use KDE (presently kubuntu/neon and arch) - I thought i would try latest gnome.
[09:03] <yossarianuk> first impressions : terrible
[09:03] <yossarianuk> i enabled fractional scaling and lost the desktop.
[09:03] <yossarianuk> (not troling btw - this was my experience)
[09:04] <zapotah> yossarianuk: 2020 is the year of the linux desktop!
[09:04] <yossarianuk> i.e enable fractional scaling - black screen
[09:04] <yossarianuk> had to hard reboot
[09:05] <yossarianuk> which seems somewhat buggy for an LTS release..
[09:05] <yossarianuk> I have used fractional scaling in KDE for ages with no real issues (apart from the old line in the konsole window)
[09:06] <yossarianuk> i guess i shall file a bug..
[09:06] <oldguy> zapotah: -- again i have made a mistake - the last post i made should have said dh-pthon ... sorry
[09:15] <zapotah> oldguy: it happens to...old guys
[09:15]  * zapotah shows himself out
[09:25] <droog> Query - How does one change window manager in the latest Ubuntu? Looks like the straight forward way of doing it has been removed.
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> droog: what are you planning to do?
[09:27] <ducasse> droog: after installing it, you should be able to switch at the login screen
[09:30] <droog> Lotus: I've installed Enlightenment, and I want to use it.
[09:30] <droog> ducasse: I checked there. Unable to see the option to change sessions :/
[09:30] <droog> Box standard, default Ubuntu install btw.
[09:30] <absence> what's the right way to install java 13 in 20.04? in 19.10 there was an openjdk-13-jdk package, but it's not in 20.04
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> droog: where did you get enlightment from?
[09:37] <droog> The erpos
[09:37] <droog> *Repos
[09:38] <ducasse> droog: look under /usr/share/xsessions/
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: seems something has changed with the packagenames, wasnt it like e17 before
[09:41] <droog> ducasse: Yup, it exists under that folder
[09:42] <ducasse> then it should appear, they do here
[09:42] <droog> Well thanks for the assist guys. Gonna bail on Ubuntu I think. Too many issues right off the bat, more so than with previous versions.
[09:44] <ducasse> droog: it's been running great here for months
[09:45] <absence> https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/openjdk-13 <- what happened?
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: fud spreaders
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> absence: apt-cache search your-package-here
[09:48] <absence> lotuspsychje: yeah, there are no hits
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> absence: what apt gives, is what you can install on your system
[09:50] <absence> lotuspsychje: right, so my question is what happened to openjdk 13 in 20.04
[09:50] <ducasse> absence: that package is only available in debian, according to launchpad
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> absence: discussions feel free to ask in #ubuntu-discuss
[09:52] <absence> lotuspsychje: why is it a discussion?
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> absence: come into #ubuntu-discuss and ill explain it to you
[10:08] <discovered> I am trying to make usb wifi adapter ZyXEL 6605 in latest ubuntu. Device is detected what i see in lsusb. But no aditional wifi interface
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> discovered: pastebin: sudo lshw -C network please?
[10:11] <discovered> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/BEDwYire
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> discovered: arent you using your internal intel wifi?
[10:16] <discovered> lotuspsychje, connected in Ethernet. I am not using the internal intel wifi
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> discovered: can you: journalctl -f and plug out/back in your usb dongle and pastebin the results please
[10:18] <gratz> If I install Ubuntu 20.04 via PXE and specify the preseed `tasksel tasksel/first multiselect minimal` option then the resulting /etc/grub/grub.cfg as part of the installed OS includes `quiet splash` as kernel parameters which breaks the login prompt - I can manually remove these and it works, which is what a standard install of 20.04 does from the server ISO image. Seems like this shouldn't happen when preseeded? I tried using `standard` instea
[10:18] <gratz> d of `minimal` and that was the same
[10:19] <discovered> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/UfYD3Mu0
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> discovered: seems like it discovers the adapter, but bit further errors mtp-probe[2345]: bus: 1, device: 6 was not an MTP device
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> discovered: did you try several usb ports?
[10:25] <discovered> lotuspsychje, not yet... Trying it
[10:26] <lotuspsychje> discovered: maybe also try to disable your internal intel one
[10:28] <discovered> lotuspsychje, how i do that?
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> discovered: could from your bios, but try the other ports first
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> discovered: is your kernel+system up to date?
[10:33] <discovered> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/HfY2r3mb ....
[10:33] <discovered> Tried but did not work
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> discovered: ok tnx for testing that, could you pastebin your dmesg please?
[10:35] <nicekiwi_> can systemd-resolvd do the same things dnsmasq can do?
[10:36] <discovered> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/YBvw77FE
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[10:39] <discovered> lotuspsychje, is it for me?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> discovered: no its ok, did you boot with your usb connected?
[10:40] <discovered> lotuspsychje, yes
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> discovered: did your dongle work on other ubuntu versions please?
[10:41] <discovered> lotuspsychje, i did not try that
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> discovered: allright, do you have time to file a bug togheter?
[10:44] <discovered> lotuspsychje, ok i will.. Can't it be fixed now?
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> discovered: maybe someone can find a fix, but in my opinion this needs to be filed as bug, as your dongle doesnt work out of the box on 20.04
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> discovered: you have a launchpad account, it wont take long?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> discovered: from terminal: ubuntu-bug linux , then add a title + description of your bug and attach your dmesg along with it
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> discovered: see also bug #1875016
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> discovered: you could affect this one instead of filing a new bug too if you want
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> discovered: or rather continue
[11:16] <shinobi> Is lz4 enabled by default when I create a zpool? I'm running 20.04.
[11:22] <RattleBattle79> shinobi: If you use ZFS for boot during install, I'm not sure if you create another ZFS pool. I don't think so
[11:23] <RattleBattle79> it's simple to create with lz4 though
[11:32] <jarn> I have a problem with trackpad scrolling. I want to try using "synclient" to try to modify "VertScrollDelta" and "HorizScrollDelta" as described in "https://askubuntu.com/questions/330461/how-to-speed-down-two-fingers-trackpad-scrolling". When I try to install "synclient", it want to install "xserver-xorg-core" and remove all kinds of other packages, do you think this is safe?
[11:33] <jarn> pastebin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DGg6WKBp3z/
[11:33] <_bradk> just applied the latest updates, hoping one of them fixes the network instability issues which started since moving to 20.04
[11:33] <_bradk> nope
[11:33] <_bradk> :<
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:36] <excited_buddha> How can I know in ubuntu if my PC is HACKED remotely (via appimages/snaps/etc). Without additional software if possible.
[11:39] <excited_buddha> Am I among bots or people? no offense but it feels like no one car read me? Am I blocked from sending messages? No rush.
[11:41] <excited_buddha> I just discovered a official snap containing a keylogger.
[11:45] <RattleBattle79> excited_buddha: If no one is answering they haven't read you question or have no answer, It's as simple as that.
[11:47] <tatertots> excited_buddha: what "official" snap did you discover a keylogger?
[11:50] <coconut> Would a "factory color calibration" have the same improvement under linux as under windows?
[11:51] <rory> coconut: are you referring to an optional customisation a vendor is offering for a device shipping a choice of Linux or Windows?
[11:52] <rory> or is this something that's built into the display hardware?
[11:53] <excited_buddha> tatertots it was a lie. I have not.
[11:53] <rory> if the latter, it'll be exactly the same under both Linux and Windows.
[11:56] <coconut> rory, no nothing build into the monitor, just a callibration in factory done once with the laptop with Windows on it.(which i will wipe)
[11:59] <coconut> rory, do you think it's better not to do so?
[12:02] <rory> if you care about this, you should contact the vendor, imo, because it might be a BIOS/hardware thing, or it might be a Windows thing.
[12:05] <coconut> i had the same thinking, thank you rory
[12:18] <vuurdraak> hi everybody, i have a weird behavior of firefox in ubuntu 18.04 lts, ever since it opened on the 2nd user space below the first one, while i was running a program in wine, now when i open firefox it keeps opening in the 2nd user space, and refuses to open ion the active user space, anybody got an idea why this might be happening ? even if i move ff to the 1st user space, later it decides to open n the non active 2nd user space anyway
[12:26] <born2bake> is there any way I can use python-pip in Ubuntu focal?
[12:34] <guiverc> born2bake, python3-pip installs pip3 for focal/20.04
[12:38] <Deano59> Hi there! I just ran "openssl speed" to see which is faster for my device and I don't know what the output means? can I paste somewhere and someone tell me?
[12:39] <Deano59> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c44jmq5k9z/
[12:40] <Deano59> that's it ^
[12:43] <ohmyfromage> ducasse: thank you!
[12:47] <born2bake> guiverc unfortunately, the app which I am trying to use supports only python-pip
[12:48] <dynetrekk> Hi, I've followed the microk8s installation instructions, but the executables are missing? e.g. `microk8s.status` (from https://ubuntu.com/kubernetes/install#single-node)
[12:48] <dynetrekk> I can't find them in /snap/microk8s/current/... either?
[12:53] <diskin> hi, what can I check if my system sometimes (rarely) won't go to sleep and freezes? min most cases sleep works fine. the system is 18.04.4
[12:56] <walter__> good morning. my ubuntu 20.04 cant power off.
[12:56] <diskin> the last record in kern.log was: "PM: suspend entry (deep)"
[12:58] <Deano59> Hi there! I just ran "openssl speed" to see which is faster for my device and I don't know what the output means? can I paste somewhere and someone tell me? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c44jmq5k9z/
[13:01] <walter__> Deano59; the information is mixing hash crypto choices somehow to the speed analyses
[13:04] <dbugger> Hi everyone
[13:05] <walter__> I am stuck in a big problem here with the power off not de facto concluding
[13:05] <walter__> NOT concluding
[13:05] <born2bake> is there any way I can use python-pip in Ubuntu focal?
[13:06] <Psi-Jack> 20.04, you mean? :p
[13:06] <marenz> g'day
[13:07] <marenz> I am not 100% if it happened before or after my update to 20.04 (from 18.04) but the current state is that my integrated camera is gone
[13:07] <marenz> there is no /dev/video0 and the browser also says no camera detected
[13:08] <DJones> walter__: Have you tried speedtest-cli
[13:09] <marenz> omg.
[13:09] <Psi-Jack> heh. Well then, pip for python2 was removed from Ubuntu 20.04, itself. heh
[13:09] <marenz> It was my fn+cam key that I had to press
[13:09] <marenz> god damn.
[13:09] <DJones> walter__: https://opensource.com/article/20/1/internet-speed-tests
[13:10] <dbugger> I have a question. I know the answers are subjective, but Id like to know other opinions. I was thinking of buying a new GPU, and I was wondering which one will give me less headaches. I have used NVidia so far, and the performance is great, but GOD i cant stop the screen tearing. This has been happening to me for ages over and over. What do you guys think? Would I be better off with a AMD?
[13:10] <walter__> DJones, I believe speedtest-cli is meant to test speed I currently on power off troubles.
[13:11] <DJones> walter__: ok,I thought you were just looking for a internet speed test utility
[13:11] <Psi-Jack> dbugger: Subjective? Well, facts are facts. Not subjective. but ATI/AMD on GPU, has always been problematic. It's "getting better", but it's not yet there in terms of quality support yet in the world of linux.
[13:12] <dbugger> FYI, I have a NVidia GTX 970
[13:12] <Psi-Jack> I have the GTX 960. Works great.
[13:13] <dbugger> Works fine too, but the screen tearing keeps coming back, over and over. I dont know what do to anymore
[13:13] <walter__> dbugger, well, some critics are biased to nvidia if the problem is not money
[13:13] <Psi-Jack> I have not had screen tearing.. In... Ever.
[13:14] <dbugger> Well, Money is a factor. But I am looking more for a "problem free" life :P
[13:14] <solarliner> I only have screen tearing on my second screen of my dual screen setup but that might be due to the fact it's connected directly to the motherboard instead of the graphics card
[13:15] <Meaxis> sarnold and Mordoc, I have some updates: according to my host, they - did not alter the network and - did not alter the machine in itself
[13:15] <solarliner> So my primary screen works great, but the tearing on the second screen is just unbearable
[13:15] <Meaxis> I think I'm going to reinstall the OS, unless you have a better idea?
[13:16] <Psi-Jack> dbugger: Are you using the same monitor connector type from the video card? Not mixing HDMI+DP+DVI, etc to your displays?
[13:17] <dbugger> Psi-Jack, I have 3 screens. I might have 1 to HDMI, but the other 2 are Display Port
[13:17] <Psi-Jack> There you go.
[13:17] <Psi-Jack> That'll cause screen tearing.
[13:17] <dbugger> Really??
[13:17] <Psi-Jack> Yes, really.
[13:17] <dbugger> Let me check...
[13:18] <dbugger> Ok, yes... so I should use all 3 with DisplayPort to the GPU?
[13:19] <Psi-Jack> Correct, all /same interface/ connector.
[13:19] <Psi-Jack> That's critical.
[13:19] <dbugger> I would have never guessed it...
[13:19] <Psi-Jack> Which is why I asked about your setup. :)
[13:19] <walter__> the problem here is not an important one. but it's the only thing left to make the system round
[13:19] <dbugger> Thanks, mate. I will get me a 3rd DisplayPort cable
[13:19] <Psi-Jack> dbugger: Does your graphics card have 3 native DP ports?
[13:20] <dbugger> Psi-Jack, yeah, 2 DP and one HDMI
[13:20] <dbugger> 3DP
[13:20] <Psi-Jack> Cool :)
[13:20] <Meaxis> does anyone know how to fix the [Waiting for headers] apt problem?
[13:20] <Psi-Jack> My older 960, I had uniquely gotten with DVI in mind. LOL
[13:20] <Meaxis> wait it works
[13:20] <Meaxis> it was just long
[13:20] <Meaxis> sorry
[13:21] <dbugger> Psi-Jack, https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/610VIvpieJL._AC_SL1000_.jpg
[13:21] <Psi-Jack> Now, technically, I could get a video card that does HDMI, but, I'm waiting till I have better money to buy a worthwhile card.
[13:21] <Psi-Jack> Well dang!
[13:21] <dbugger> More than enough ports =P
[13:22] <samfisher> Hi. I somehow deleted my /boot partition /dev/sdb1 2G EFI System. Think is I cannot boot ubuntu anymore and I am now in a liveCD
[13:22] <dbugger> Even thought, for reason... I seem to recall that once I tried connecting all 3 monitors to DP, and one of them was not working...
[13:22] <dbugger> *for some reason
[13:22] <Psi-Jack> So, yeah. DP all the way then, if you want to drive 3 displays. Now, I can't say ultimately that will work as well as hoped, BUT, it's got a much higher chance /to/ work, because of the same interface control.
[13:23] <samfisher> the / is still there, I can access it but I really need help reconstructing /boot and grup
[13:23] <dbugger> Well, I guess I can try. DP cable is not much
[13:23] <Psi-Jack> Right.
[13:26] <walter__> of course, you must master the technical hability to help, otherwise, words on the wind
[13:27] <samfisher> my /boot now shows as EFI and no boot flag is there. i tried chrooting and installing grub but still the same
[13:27] <echoSMILE> Hi. Is normal the mac address of a wifi interface change something like some digits?
[13:29] <Psi-Jack> echoSMILE: Normal? Absolutely not.
[13:30] <vimart> echoSMILE: no that's not normal. How did you find it?
[13:30] <walter__> echoSMILE, some routers have the option to clone the mac address of the host, from what I remember
[13:31] <echoSMILE> I have my wifi AP allowing my laptop from MAC, and today I didn't have connection. SO i was debuging the issue and I find out the last digit of the mac address of my wifi card was difeferent.
[13:31] <walter__> anyways my deal now is power off
[13:32] <kevindank> Hello, How do i easily copy the contents of a file from command line?
[13:32] <echoSMILE> I have records about my network settings registered. So no, was not me that did change it before or today.
[13:32] <echoSMILE> How can this be possible ?!
[13:32] <kevindank> I'm using putty to connect to my command line on ubuntu server and have a file open in nano
[13:33] <walter__> afk
[13:33] <dynetrekk> kevindank copy to/from where? winscp can copy files to/from windows over ssh
[13:34] <dynetrekk> I think putty can too
[13:34] <dynetrekk> kevindank but nano just works "on the ubuntu server"
[13:37] <kevindank> i tim trying to copy a file from one directory to another
[13:37] <kevindank> but it tells me its not a directory
[13:37] <zhanx> kevindank, are you using screen on the server?
[13:39] <Psi-Jack> kevindank: cp oldfile newpath/
[13:39] <JimBuntu> echoSMILE: MAC are sometimes built at firmware load during boot up and in those cases it's generally based off the manufacturer prefix and some other data like a serial number for the device that is stored somewhere internally. If that serial number changed, then the MAC could change. It's not normally an issue, but it can happen.
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> If the serial number changes, there's something horribly wrong going on. :)
[13:40] <JimBuntu> bit flips happen, but I agree, if that's what happened then the memory appears to be failing.
[13:40] <RoseBus> okay what is pa stand for in pactl
[13:40] <Psi-Jack> Pulse Audio
[13:41] <kevindank> Psi-Jack: it tells me that its not a directory
[13:41] <RoseBus> ahh nice
[13:41] <kevindank> cp /etc/nginx/sites-available/file.conf  /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/
[13:41] <Psi-Jack> kevindank: Then "you're doing it wrong"
[13:41] <Psi-Jack> Does /etc/nginx/sites-enabled exist, and is a directory? ls -ld /etc/nginx/sites-enabled
[13:42] <kevindank> it exists and is a directory
[13:43] <kevindank> theres an existing file in that directory to. but i just cant copy to it
[13:44] <Psi-Jack> Well your cp looks fine.
[13:47] <echoSMILE> JimBuntu: "if that serial number changed" but how can this be made?
[13:51] <ocean> kevindank: you should link, not copy, the config file from -available to -enabled: sudo ln -s /etc/nginx/sites-available/mydom.conf /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/
[13:51] <RoseBus> JimBuntu, bit flips do happen
[13:52] <RoseBus> JimBuntu, did u know that the reason toyotas were going out of control and weren't able to decelerate were due to bit flips in the control circuits?
[13:52] <RoseBus> they fixed the problem with redundant circuits and now they wont send a signal unless all circuits agree
[13:53] <SoorajS> Hi, Ive one doubt. I want to upgrade to 20.04 lts from 18.04. But the updates have not yet came in updater. if i do "update-manager -d", ill get the update. Is there any harm in doing this? Like is the thing stable if i do so?
[13:53] <RoseBus> they say bit flips can be cauased by cosmic rays... how fascinating
[13:55] <corshmock> Does anyone ever experience an issue with mouse buttons in Ubuntu?  The mouse can move freely around the screen but the buttons stop working?
[13:55] <RoseBus> corshmock, yea i've had that in 20.04
[13:55] <TheBeastBoy> Hello
[13:55] <RoseBus> after 10-20 seconds then it returned to normal
[13:55] <Teduardo> Hello, I am trying to create an autoinstall file, in the docs it references a snap called autoinstall-editor but that doesn't seem to exist at all or maybe I am too stupid to find it, can anyone help me find it?
[13:55] <TheBeastBoy> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3QrQUekV
[13:55] <JimBuntu> echoSMILE: I would suspect a glitch in the rom on the card that stores that serial or MAC if this is the only time you have seen it change. Was there a firmware update lately?
[13:56] <TheBeastBoy> sudo apt install python is not working
[13:56] <TheBeastBoy> I am using ubuntu on wsl
[13:56] <echoSMILE> JimBuntu: glitch in the rom? that's new. How can I check if I did? Because if I did was from ubuntu official updates. Is there any log?
[13:56] <leftyfb> !wsl | TheBeastBoy
[13:57] <RoseBus> TheBeastBoy, u have to specify the version of python you want
[13:57] <TheBeastBoy> leftyfb:  u didn't read my question?
[13:57] <corshmock> JimBuntu: No mate, I went back to Ubuntu (20.04) the other and then remembered this issue from when I was on 18.04.  The same laptop never had that problem with Fedora, or Windows strangley.
[13:57] <TheBeastBoy> I need python3 what should i run?
[13:57] <RoseBus> TheBeastBoy, look for the packages like this: "apt-cache search python"
[13:58] <TheBeastBoy> There are tooooo many
[13:58] <leftyfb> TheBeastBoy: what error do you get?
[13:58] <TheBeastBoy> Package Python not found
[13:58] <JimBuntu> echoSMILE: You could check within /var/log/dpkg.log, you'll want to know what model the NIC is and go from there
[13:59] <leftyfb> TheBeastBoy: that is not a valid error message
[13:59] <RoseBus> thebeastboy try this: "sudo apt install python3"
[13:59] <SoorajS> anyone could comment if any bad effects of using -d while upgrading to 20.04 from 18.04??
[13:59] <TheBeastBoy> RoseBus:  not working
[13:59] <leftyfb> TheBeastBoy: please pastebin the command you're using and the exact error message you're getting when trying to install python on wsl
[14:01] <TheBeastBoy> Got it
[14:01] <TheBeastBoy> Now it is working
[14:01] <RoseBus> ahhaha nice
[14:01] <TheBeastBoy> I forgot to run apt get update
[14:02] <jpleau> Hi. Trying to blacklist 'snd_hds_codec_hdmi' kernel module. Added it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, ran update-initramfs -u, rebooted to test if it worked. It doesn't. If I extract the initrd file I can see my edit in blacklist.conf but it's still not blacklisting the module..
[14:11] <Teduardo> Can anyone tell me wherher I am in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-unregged?
[14:14] <coconut> Teduardo, you're in #ubuntu now
[14:14] <Teduardo> Thanks, IRSSI is confusing. sorry for dumb questions.
[14:15] <coconut> Teduardo, there are no dumb questions
[14:17] <p0indexter> <<< using irssi..can be confusing try hexchat...all gui easier
[14:20] <wedr> +1 on hexchat, but hexchat's initial configurations are just as confusing
[14:21] <Psi-Jack> Confusing?
[14:21] <wedr> Especially when you wanted to default to a nickname, but your sign-on username is different than the nickname you use
[14:21] <wedr> like, my account nickname is wedr, but my sign-on username is different than "wedr".
[14:22] <wedr> You need to play around with hexchat settings just to make it so you sign-onto an IRC network, it needs to automatically change your nickname
[14:23] <zhanx> wedr, that is just settings
[14:23] <wedr> the initial configurations require you to play with the settings first
[14:24] <wedr> that is, you set your default IRC network, what username/password/authentication process you want to use, and then set up commands to execute before you complete the login
[14:24] <wedr> That's the only part of hexchat that I feel it's confusing.
[14:24] <zhanx> been using it for years use to it
[14:25] <wedr> The moment I got everything working the way I wanted, I left it alone, and forget what I did to make it work. :P
[14:25] <wedr> Everything else is simple and easy to use.
[14:27] <tzanolo> Good afternoon. I'm trying to install Cisco Packet Tracer and getting some issues: I've download the deb file and install with "sudo dpkg -i PacketTracer_730_amd64.deb"
[14:28] <tzanolo> I'm running ubuntu 20.04
[14:28] <zhanx> tzanolo, paste the output ?
[14:29] <tzanolo> Ok, wen I run the binary it shows: "./PacketTracer7: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so.60: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[14:30] <zhanx> tzanolo, try udo apt install libicu55
[14:30] <tzanolo> ok, I'll will try
[14:31] <tzanolo> Doesn't work
[14:31] <tzanolo> tzanolo@lisa:/opt/pt/bin$ sudo apt install libicu55
[14:31] <tzanolo> Reading package lists... Done
[14:31] <tzanolo> Building dependency tree
[14:31] <tzanolo> Reading state information... Done
[14:31] <tzanolo> E: Unable to locate package libicu55
[14:31] <echoSMILE> with `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-3.0 gcr-3 webkit2gtk-4.0` I got "Package gtk+-3.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path." but the lib is installed, how can I set it for: "Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-3.0.pc` to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable ?
[14:32] <hggdh> tzanolo: please use pastebin for more than 2 lines of output
[14:32] <tzanolo> ok no problem, thanks!
[14:33] <zhanx> tzanolo, here is the ppa for it, you might have to wait to 20.04.1 on it https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libicu55
[14:37] <tzanolo> i'm downloading it from the link
[14:37] <tzanolo> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/18845128
[14:37] <tzanolo> lets see what will happen
[14:38] <tzanolo> zhanx, i've downloaded the deb and isntalled it, now packet tracer needs other dependencies.
[14:40] <tzanolo> zhanx, take a look https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8yBKCRH3S4/
[14:40] <tzanolo> now it needs   Package qt-at-spi is not installed
[14:40] <roler> I have a Dell Inspiron 3847 Desktop that I use for Ubuntu. Great little machine, 16GB ram, Intel i7-4790. Problem is, it barely supports my 3440x1440 monitor (@49hz). Can anyone recommend a desktop video card (not for gaming) that will make my desktop experience better?
[14:41] <wedr> roler, I'd go with Nvidia Quatro cards
[14:42] <kyle__> even ones that are a few years old are great.
[14:42] <roler> quadro?
[14:42] <wedr> Or anything Nvidia in general. I have heard numerous times, Ubunut uses nouveau drivers which are based off of Nvidia drivers.
[14:42] <wedr> quadro* yes. It's not gaming graphics cards, but it gets the job done
[14:43] <kyle__> I've got an old quadro p400 in this desktop, and it's fantastic.
[14:43] <zhanx> tzanolo, check npn for that
[14:43] <roler> kyle__: what resolution ?
[14:43] <kyle__> At the moment 1280x1024, because I put my big monitor on my work laptop to WFH :P but normally 4k
[14:43] <tzanolo> zhanx, i didint understand... sorry
[14:44] <zhanx> one sec
[14:44] <Thanos> roler: a simple gt1030  https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-gt-1030-gt-1030-2gh-lp-oc/p/N82E16814137140?Description=gt1030&cm_re=gt1030-_-14-137-140-_-Product&quicklink=true
[14:44] <Thanos> I bought two of these recently. they work fine in 20.04.
[14:44] <Thanos> has displayport and hdmi both.
[14:45] <zhanx> tzanolo, since you are install early you are gonna need to add all the ppa's to get them etc as the errors come up
[14:45] <zhanx> tis the pain of new releases
[14:46] <kyle__> Thanos: Hu.  That's a pretty good deal.
[14:46] <roler> thank you everyone. these are great solutions and definitely what I was expecting to pay
[14:47] <Thanos> ya np.
[14:47] <tzanolo> zhanx, ok, but how can I do it?
[14:47] <roler> kyle__; I found the P400 new for $90 too. https://www.ebay.com/itm/PNY-Quadro-P400-VCQP400-2GB-64-bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-0x16-Low-Profile/402171822204?hash=item5da34f007c:g:jBMAAOSwB8RbvPfS#viTabs_0
[14:48] <zhanx> tzanolo, you try a sudo apt install qt-at-spi?
[14:48] <ioria> that's not available on focal
[14:49] <tzanolo> zhanx, yes, but does not exist
[14:49] <tzanolo> Package qt-at-spi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[14:49] <zhanx> then compile from source
[14:49] <zhanx> you adopted early and get to learn etc
[14:49] <leftyfb> tzanolo: the package is part of the universe repo
[14:50] <leftyfb> zhanx: please do not suggest building from source. It's not something we can support here
[14:50] <zhanx> leftyfb, noted
[14:51] <zhanx> but it would be a skill they should learn also leftyfb
[14:51] <leftyfb> tzanolo: you're trying to install packages from a PPA manually? Why not just enable the PPA?
[14:51] <zhanx> tzanolo, Here is the ppa for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt-at-spi that
[14:52] <leftyfb> zhanx: please stop
[14:52] <zhanx> its showing bonic as the last release so you will have to wait to get the update
[14:52] <leftyfb> zhanx: please stop
[14:54] <zhanx> knowledge is power and teaching someone how to read the ppa when they are adopting early is something they need to learn
[14:54] <zhanx> it tells them they need to wait for the dev to push out the update
[14:54] <leftyfb> zhanx: This is a support channel. Please stop
[14:54] <zhanx> that is support
[14:55] <valentin> is there any well-known issue with gnome using intel graphics and higher resolutions (2560x1440 in my case) that result in scroll stutter and general animation sluggishness after a while (10-15 minutes into the session)?
[14:57] <valentin> I don't see any issue under KDE, cinnamon, XFCE, etc. I only notice the stuters under gnome
[14:57] <leftyfb> tzanolo: where did you get the PacketTracer_730_amd64.deb file?
[14:57] <tzanolo> leftyfb, from the cisco netacad homepage.
[14:59] <tzanolo> leftyfb, this link: https://www.netacad.com/portal/resources/packet-tracer
[14:59] <zhanx> requires sign in
[14:59] <tzanolo> cisco doesnt have any ppa, just the .deb itself.
[15:00] <leftyfb> tzanolo: the binary is looking for a file that's included in the libicu60 package. Give me a bit to spin up a 20.04 container
[15:00] <tzanolo> zhanx, yes, students must be logged ind...
[15:01] <tzanolo> leftyfb, no problem.
[15:01] <tzanolo> zhanx, do you need the file?
[15:01] <zhanx> sure if you want to send it so i can play with the install
[15:01] <zhanx> intrigued etc
[15:02] <leftyfb> tzanolo: I'd suggest not sharing that here
[15:02] <leftyfb> zhanx: you are perfectly capable of signing up for your own account
[15:04] <leftyfb> tzanolo: sudo apt install libicu66
[15:04] <leftyfb> tzanolo: mind you, you should really be receiving support from Cisco on this
[15:04] <tzanolo> leftyfb, says it is already installed: libicu66 is already the newest version (66.1-2ubuntu2).
[15:05] <tzanolo> leftyfb, cisco does not cary about it: it is always a war when they change the app version, or when I change my distro version.
[15:05] <leftyfb> tzanolo: ok, try sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicui18n.so.66 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicui18n.so.60
[15:05] <tzanolo> let me try another version.
[15:06] <leftyfb> tzanolo: an older version isn't going to make a difference
[15:07] <leftyfb> tzanolo: if you'd like help, please don't go changing things without being directed to do so
[15:07] <zhanx> ln -s will break on updates also
[15:07] <tzanolo> ok
[15:08] <leftyfb> tzanolo: did you make the link as directed?
[15:10] <tzanolo> leftyfb, yes: tzanolo@lisa:~/Downloads$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicui18n.so.66 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libicui18n.so.60
[15:10] <leftyfb> tzanolo: ok, try running the app now
[15:11] <tzanolo> leftyfb, ok, ill need to run de dpkg again
[15:11] <leftyfb> tzanolo: why did you uninstall it?
[15:11] <zhanx> he didn't the install failed due to depends
[15:12] <tzanolo> because when I tried to run anyting as "sudo apt update" it says the system is broken, and ask me to --fix
[15:12] <zhanx> tzanolo, you should have started with that
[15:12] <leftyfb> zhanx: ok, install the package, then lets go from there
[15:12] <leftyfb> ugh
[15:13] <leftyfb> tzanolo: ^
[15:13] <tzanolo> ok.
[15:14] <tzanolo> take a look: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QxdCjPrzRC/
[15:14] <tzanolo> there are errors installing deb
[15:14] <leftyfb> tzanolo: once the package is installed run: sudo apt install -f   # then pastebin the output here. You do not have to let it remove the app, lets just see what it wants to do
[15:15] <leftyfb> tzanolo: please stop running commands unless directed to do so
[15:15] <zhanx> leftyfb, that is why i showed him the ppa. the qt-at-spi package is not ready for 20.04 yet
[15:15] <tzanolo> leftyfb, ok, take a look from install -f : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c9ZphtCX4F/
[15:16] <leftyfb> tzanolo: ok, hold on
[15:17] <tzanolo> ok.
[15:17] <leftyfb> tzanolo: If you need this application, I would suggest going back to Ubuntu 18.04. It is not compatible with 20.04 and cannot be supported hee
[15:17] <leftyfb> here*
[15:17] <zhanx> the last update to the ppa was 2018-11-09 21:43:36 UTC
[15:18] <tzanolo> ok no problem.
[15:19] <ioria> tzanolo, this guy did it (not quiet clear how, and i think it's NOT reliable, but anyways ...  )  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1228265/how-can-i-download-packet-tracer-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-without-dependency-qt-at-sp
[15:21] <zhanx> ioria, the qt-at-spi deb link is broken on that one
[15:21] <zhanx> for me
[15:21] <ioria> zhanx, no it's not
[15:21] <zhanx> for me i get a 500 error
[15:22] <ioria> zhanx, but it's just the xenial version (you can get it elesewhere, not the problem)
[15:22]  * zhanx is being evil and compiling source anyways
[15:24] <tzanolo> ive started everithing from scratch, with an older version of packet tracer.
[15:24] <zhanx> libqt4-dbus will be an error for tzanolo
[15:24] <tzanolo> this one installs with no error,but when i run it show:
[15:24] <tzanolo> ./PacketTracer7: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:25] <zhanx> sudo apt install libpng12-0?
[15:29] <zhanx> leftyfb, spin up that 20.04 yet?
[15:29] <leftyfb> zhanx: yes, why?
[15:30] <zhanx> can you check if this installs https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/15108504/+files/libpng12-0-dbgsym_1.2.54-1ubuntu1.1_amd64.ddeb
[15:30] <zhanx> that is the file he needs
[15:30] <leftyfb> I do not suggest any of this
[15:30] <zhanx> i know but can you check it
[15:31] <zhanx> you have the vm for a reason
[15:31] <leftyfb> zhanx: you can spin up an lxd container just as easy. lxc launch ubuntu:20.04 focal
[15:32] <zhanx> i could but i am doing a neutral net test right now
[15:33] <zhanx> either way they quit problem solved
[15:43] <MonsieurBon> Hi all
[15:43] <luna_> hey
[15:44] <MonsieurBon> Is there a reason the update-manager is not showing the dist upgrade to 20.04 yet? When I run 'update-manager -d' it is shown, but it tells me it is still a development release. Is it still ok to install this way?
[15:45] <luna_> MonsieurBon: it is it will show when 20.04.1 is released during the summer
[15:45] <luna_> but its released so its okay to update now
[15:45] <luna_> but Canonical decided to have a slower rollout
[15:45] <MonsieurBon> luna_, even if I have the setting set to "any new release"?
[15:46] <MonsieurBon> the notification setting
[15:46] <luna_> think so, i used it since Beta so not sure
[15:48] <MonsieurBon> luna_, sounds a bit weird, but ok. I'll upgrade then. :-)
[15:49] <DJones> MonsieurBon: Th udate hasn't been released yet, they say in the release notes that it'll take a few days for 19.10 to get the notification
[15:51] <RattleBattle79> Does anybody know if there are plans for making ZFS the default root file system in future release, i.e Ubuntu 22.04 LTS?
[15:52] <leftyfb> ubuntu+1 | RattleBattle79
[15:52] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | RattleBattle79
[15:52] <CrazySam> Where do old Ubuntu releases go to die?
[15:52] <DJones> MonsieurBon: As already mentioned above, upgrades from 19.10 will not be enabled until a few days after 20.04's release and upgrades from 18.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after the 20.04.1 release which is expected in late July 2020. Taken from https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-to-20-04-lts-focal-fossa
[15:52] <Psi-Jack> Under my boot.
[15:53] <CrazySam> Aaahahaha rofl
[15:53] <leftyfb> CrazySam: do you have a support question?
[15:53] <cryptopsy> what FS shoudl i make a bootable usb?
[15:53] <leftyfb> CrazySam: EOL releases are not supported here
[15:53] <DJones> luna_: I have upgraded using the -d option, it worked for me, but you take your chances
[15:53] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: if you're flashing an iso, you do not need to format the USB drive
[15:53] <cryptopsy> yes, i do
[15:54] <cryptopsy> it isnt booting properly
[15:54] <DJones> MonsieurBon: I have upgraded using the -d option, it worked for me, but you take your chances
[15:54] <RattleBattle79> are you creating the ISO in Linux or Windows?
[15:54] <CrazySam> Psi-Jack: good one! Still catching my breath.
[15:54] <cryptopsy> r  dd if=/r/ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sda bs=4M status=progress oflag=direct
[15:54] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: no, you don't. Flash it properly and it should work
[15:54] <cryptopsy> defied properly
[15:54] <zhanx> leftyfb, dont be a sith lord
[15:55] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: what distro are you using?
[15:55] <cryptopsy> ubuntu
[15:55] <ZummiG777> I'm looking at various hardening methods (STIG etc) for Ubuntu (18.04+) however I can't find reliable automated methods to do this (such as a baseline Ansible/Puppet playbook).  Is there a preferred or community popular method to accomplish this?
[15:55] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: ok, then use the Startup Disk Creator built into ubuntu
[15:55] <cryptopsy> have only terminal
[15:56] <cryptopsy> no mouse
[15:56] <CrazySam> Where does one go to get hold of old Ubuntu releases? I mean if you could not ask Google for directions. I want to get some old releases. Does Ubuntu host those? Or I have to use a mirror site?
[15:56] <leftyfb> CrazySam: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[15:57] <leftyfb> CrazySam: first result on google for "ubuntu old releases"
[15:58] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: what happens when you boot the flash drive?
[15:59] <MonsieurBon> Why does the upgrade remove atom and fahcontrol (GUI for folding@home)?
[15:59] <CrazySam> leftyfb: You mean you didn't just plug that address in from the top of your head? That's called cheating. ;) Where would we be without Google? I know... we would all be using IRC.
[15:59] <leftyfb> MonsieurBon: because they are not part of the official repo's. Reinstall them after the upgrade
[16:00] <MonsieurBon> leftyfb, hum... why is fahclient then not removed? Not very user friendly, I think. But well...
[16:01] <cryptopsy> usb: device not accpting address 3
[16:01] <cryptopsy> could not allocate device
[16:02] <CrazySam> 20.04 still not listed
[16:02] <zhanx> MonsieurBon, did you just complain your personal opinion was not forced on others?
[16:02] <leftyfb> CrazySam: listed as what?
[16:02] <CrazySam> *
[16:03] <cryptopsy> i am usig 20.04 LTS is it too old for by hardware?
[16:03] <cryptopsy> aorus x570i, ryzen 3950x
[16:03] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: 20.04 was released last week. You're asking if it's too old?
[16:04] <zhanx> no leftyfb he is asking the hardware they are using
[16:04] <cryptopsy> leftyfb: yes
[16:04] <cryptopsy> my 2 year old windows usb stick boots
[16:04] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: are you asking if the hardware is too old or if the 1 week old ubuntu release is too old?
[16:05] <cryptopsy> might be related to https://askubuntu.com/questions/1161799/installation-failure-on-amd-ryzen-3900x-and-gigabyte-auros-master-x570-motherboa
[16:06] <CrazySam> CrazySam you... you crazy... person! You can't expect 20.04 to be listed on a domain called "old-releases". Doh!
[16:06] <zhanx> can we get a little bit of critical thinking ?
[16:07] <cryptopsy> looks like i need a bios update for ubuntu 20.04 to know what to do with this hardware
[16:08] <cryptopsy> althought i dont know, theyre talking about bios version F3, upgradig to F6b ... my bios version is already F11
[16:08] <meaxis> sarnold and Mordoc, I've got good news! My host fixed it!
[16:08] <CrazySam> I think I know what he's getting at. He's saying his old hardware is too old for the new Ubuntu. Yes?
[16:08] <meaxis> Thanks for all the help!
[16:09] <cryptopsy> looks like i need windows 10 to update my bios driver
[16:09] <CrazySam> Doh! I mean his old hardware is too new for the new Ubuntu.
[16:09] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: why not just give it a try?
[16:09] <cryptopsy> excuse me?
[16:10] <CrazySam> I mean it's the best way to know for sure if it works or not? No?
[16:10] <cryptopsy> ubuntu latest version has nothing to do with linux kernel drivers which are usually late because proprietary drivers make it hard in the linux kernel
[16:10] <cryptopsy> CrazySam: have no idea what you're talking about, seems like rambling to me
[16:12] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: you were asking if Ubuntu 20.04 LTS would work with your hardware? No?
[16:13] <CrazySam> Aorus x570i, Ryzen 3950x
[16:14] <CrazySam> You did not mention Linux kernel.
[16:14] <CrazySam> You even said "for ubuntu 20.04 to know what to do with this hardware". Put the blame where it belongs.
[16:15] <cryptopsy> oh jesus, lol
[16:15] <cryptopsy> i think its best i put you on ignore, i hope you'll do that same
[16:15] <CrazySam> :)
[16:16] <CrazySam> Why so serious?
[16:16] <CrazySam> Anyway, good luck!
[16:16] <cryptopsy> alright, thanks for nothing!
[16:17] <echoSMILE> is there any application in ubuntu that call's "exe" ?
[16:22] <ecbrown> echoSMILE: not in default desktop install
[16:25] <echoSMILE> at netstat is appers listed, but I don't have any tool that is executable by 'exe'
[16:25] <echoSMILE> :/
[16:29] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: X570 AORUS ULTRA? Is this the board you have?
[16:29] <CrazySam> https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/X570-AORUS-ULTRA-rev-1x/support#support-dl-bios
[16:29] <CrazySam> The latest BIOS version is F12e.
[16:31] <CrazySam> Also, have you already installed 20.04 LTS and are having problems with it? Or you're trying to install it and are failing to do so?
 i am usig 20.04 LTS is it too old for by hardware?
[16:33] <bluefox83> well, just upgraded to 20.04 and i must say, it started up waaaaaay faster than anything it's ever run :)
 looks like i need windows 10 to update my bios driver
[16:33] <Psi-Jack> Well, trolls do exist.
[16:34] <sentiment> Hello. I need some help please.I did search the web to no avail. The issue started when I swappd my PCI GPU for the IGP. I did it by changing the bios setting to deactivate the PCI card and activate the IGP. Now after booting Ubuntu 19.10 the interface doesn't list any networks and disabling and renabling it has no effect. When I boot into Windows it's the same issue, but at least disabling and
[16:34] <sentiment> reenabling the driver activates the network adapter and it then works. I suspect it has something to do with the agpmode radeon setting , it was set to -1 and the lspci command complained about that line so I commented that line out and I still can't conenct to wifi networks.
[16:34] <bluefox83> CrazySam: there is likely a tool for linux somewhere that will let you update it
[16:34] <Psi-Jack> IGP?
[16:35] <sentiment> it's a shame that there's no proper doc about agpmode setting and I have to sift through the forums
[16:35] <sentiment> Psi-Jack: yes?
[16:35] <Psi-Jack> What... is... IGP?
[16:35] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: I don't know about that, but Aorus "Ultra" sounds like a very expensive board not to be able to update the BIOS without Windows and Ubuntu, and even without a CPU if you're lucky.
[16:35] <sentiment> Psi-Jack: Integrated Graphics Processor
[16:35] <sentiment> basicaly onboard gpu
[16:36] <Psi-Jack> ...
[16:36] <Psi-Jack> new acronyms. Wonderful.
[16:36] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: But you don't need a BIOS driver for neither Ubuntu nor Windows. BIOS doesn't care about your OS.
[16:36] <sentiment> can you help please?
[16:38] <Psi-Jack> It's an unusual problem, and sounds more hardware related than anything.
[16:38] <sentiment> what is the paste command on this channel?
[16:39] <sentiment> I can post the tail of journalctl /usr/sbin/Networkmanager
[16:39] <sentiment> it has some log about the problem
[16:39] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: it's a good idea to do your research before an upgrade or clean install of any OS. It sounds like it's what you are doing. But you have to weight in the age of that SU post you found. It's from 2019.
[16:39] <sentiment> Psi-Jack: it's a conflict with the gpu I suspect
[16:39] <sentiment> and somehow it affects the wifi driver
[16:40] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: it's always a good idea to update your BIOS before a OS install, regardless if it's Windows or Ubuntu you're installing. Perhaps more so if you're installing Windows.
[16:41] <sentiment> Psi-Jack: you know how I know that?
[16:41] <CrazySam> I hope he got the message. :) I was being helpful.
[16:41] <sentiment> because when I disable the wifi driver and reload it again, it complains: ibkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:656 kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'agpmode=1'
[16:42] <sentiment> can someone at least explain to me what on earth is agpmode?
[16:42] <sentiment> it used to work with my PCI GPU
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> Sounds like user error.
[16:42] <sentiment> pardon?
[16:42] <Psi-Jack> why do you specifically set “agmode” ?
[16:42] <sentiment> I commented it out to no effect
[16:43] <sentiment> it had something to do with gpu acceleration I think
[16:43] <sentiment> I don't remember though
[16:43] <sentiment> anyways, removing it had no effect
[16:44] <Psi-Jack> Either way . That’s only for the video
[16:44] <sentiment> then why does it complain about agpmode when I disable and re-enable the wifi driver using modprobe?
[16:45] <sentiment> is it a generic informative error?
[16:45] <sentiment> i.e will it happen with any driver?
[16:45] <Psi-Jack> Likely
[16:46] <cryptopsy> initramfs; unable to find a medium containg a live file system
[16:46] <sentiment> Psi-Jack: I will come back after testing again with Windows to rule out any hw issue
[16:46] <sentiment> thanks
[16:46] <cryptopsy> CrazySam: it isnt safe in this case, you have to run it from windows which i dont want to waste time installing
[16:47] <deadrom> heya
[16:47] <deadrom> I plan to replace an NV card with an AMD. any recommendations what to uninstall, purge, reinstall, reconfigure, pre-install?
[16:49] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: you mean run the Ubuntu 20.04 installer from within Windows OS in order for the installation to succeed?
[16:49] <bluefox83> deadrom: find out what gets installed for that, then go through and apt remove them
[16:49] <cryptopsy> lets see if disabling usb3 ports in the bios helps
[16:49] <cryptopsy> md5 checks out
[16:49] <CrazySam> What's your OS?
[16:49] <cryptopsy> i dont have an os isntalled on it
[16:49] <cryptopsy> its new
[16:50] <wedr> so it's a nice candidate to swap to a new SSD
[16:50] <CrazySam> Then how are you running the Ubuntu installer?
[16:50] <cryptopsy> the boot process doesnt finish i dont even get that far
[16:52] <CrazySam> Do you have any screenshots or logs you can share?
[16:52] <cryptopsy> they are 2 different machines
[16:53] <CrazySam> OK, so which one are you having problems with? The X570 Aorus Ultra?
[16:53] <cryptopsy> yes
[16:54] <CrazySam> And you use the other one to prep your Ubuntu media?
[16:54] <CrazySam> On a USB stick presumably?
[16:54] <cryptopsy> ys
[16:56] <CrazySam> ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:56] <CrazySam> This ISO file?
[16:57] <CrazySam> What tool did you use to write it to USB and make it bootable?
[16:57] <cryptopsy> 07:50:29      cryptopsy | r  dd if=/r/ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sda bs=4M status=progress oflag=direct
[16:58] <Thanos> cryptopsy is a troll.
[16:58] <Thanos> he asks an endless barrage of questions about things he knows about then tortures people helping him.
[16:59] <erle-> Is there any way to install imagemagick without this awful graphical too, which always appears in activity when anything with "display" is searched?
[16:59] <cryptopsy> thanos calls it torture when i call him thanos bananos :)
[17:01] <cryptopsy> erle-: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[17:01] <erle-> By tool I mean "display-im6.q16"
[17:01] <erle-> "/usr/bin/display-im6.q16"
[17:03] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: that should work. But if that fails, why not try Startup Disk creator in Ubuntu? Assuming you are using Ubuntu on the second machine.
[17:03] <CrazySam> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[17:03] <cryptopsy> i know it should work :) its a 1 liner
[17:04] <CrazySam> It sounds like a media issue to me.
[17:04] <cryptopsy> if it was it would fail every time from the start not even get past the boot loader
[17:05] <cryptopsy> i used to have to dd the first 2048 with 0
[17:05] <kyle__> There's a flush flag for dd as well
[17:05] <cryptopsy> these are 3.0 sticks in 3.0 ports
[17:05] <kyle__> Or sync rather
[17:05] <cryptopsy> ?
[17:06] <kyle__> -o fsync
[17:06] <CrazySam> Do a network install? :)
[17:06] <kyle__> For whatever reason I need to do that anytime I write an SD card.
[17:09] <EriC^^> cryptopsy: did you md5sum the iso
[17:11] <cryptopsy> EriC^^: yes
[17:11] <cryptopsy> kyle__: i ran sync after dd
[17:14] <CrazySam> But why not try Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu? It doesn't take much time to do and it's the official tool for creating bootable disks in Ubuntu.
[17:15] <CrazySam> Also try a different USB stick.
[17:17] <cryptopsy> tried 2 sticks. only have a pc with no mouse
[17:17] <cryptopsy> and its running gentoo
[17:19] <multifractal> I have an mp3 library where filenames contain "illegal characters", meaning that I can't copy them to back them up. I want to run through all folders, renaming each file to strip the illegal chars (such as question marks). I was failing miserably to accomplish this on Windows, so I booted up a live Ubuntu stick and mounted the drive containing the mp3 library. How might I recursively scan through all folders and strip these certain problem chars?
[17:19] <multifractal> The folder is by artist, then by album, then MP3 files are listed.
[17:19] <CrazySam> https://alternativeto.net/software/startup-disk-creator/
[17:21] <CrazySam> cryptopsy: try UNetbootin? Not sure if it works with command lines, but you can use its GUI with keyboard.
[17:28] <johnfg> hi guys!
[17:29] <johnfg> I didn't try installing the latest server in  a vm, yet; however, I tried again, using lvm, and another failure of the same sort.
[17:29] <johnfg> In case you didn't see yesterday, desktop installed with no problems, using lvol1/ext4 mounted as /boot.  Don't know why server has the problem.
[17:30] <johnfg> I've sent the failure reports into canonical after the, like 3 failures.  Will those reports show up anywhere that I could see perhaps how the problem is getting resolved?
[17:45] <johnfg> I didn't see one, but *is* there an alternate installer for ubuntu-server-20.04 LTS?
[17:46] <leftyfb> johnfg: there's the network installer
[17:47] <leftyfb> johnfg: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[17:48] <johnfg> leftyfb: Is that for server?
[17:48] <leftyfb> johnfg: and/or desktop
[17:49] <johnfg> I downloaded it.  I'll burn it and give it a try.  Letcha know if it works.
[17:59] <sarnold> leftyfb: btw http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-legacy-server/releases/20.04/release/
[17:59] <leftyfb> ah, look at that :)
[18:02] <peppot> any more information or timeline when 19.10 will be upgradeable to 20.04?
[18:04] <ducasse> peppot: we don't know anything more than you, but you can force it with -d
[18:41] <corshmock> Hi Folks
[18:41] <jgh-> hi all, is there a way to not install snappy shit with apt in focal?
[18:42] <jgh-> it just fuckin hangs on "connecting to the snap store"
[18:42] <corshmock> My Ubuntu 20.04 is having some issues and I want to boot it into safe graphical mode, but it doesn't show the grub menu.  How can I get it to boot into safe graphical mode?  Is there a key sequence?
[18:44] <sarnold> jgh-: a few options (a) purge snapd (b) avoid the debs that install snaps in their maintainer scripts
[18:44] <sarnold> corshmock: try holding down left shift while booting
[18:45] <jgh-> @sarnold thanks, ill try purging it
[18:46] <jgh-> lol it's reinstalling snapd, god
[18:46] <jgh-> alright well i guess 18.04 is the last good version of ubuntu rip
[18:49] <zutat> snaps :(
[18:56] <corshmock> sarnold: thank you so much friend.  Much appreciated.
[18:56] <sarnold> corshmock: did you get it to work?
[18:57] <cryptopsy> i think the nvme drive was confusing the than
[18:57] <cryptopsy> thang
[18:57] <cryptopsy> pulled nvme drive out managed to get passed a bios hang that would not go away whatever you pressed
[18:58] <cryptopsy> lets ses if it can boot the iso properly
[18:58] <cryptopsy> DRM; failed to create kernel channel -22
[18:58] <cryptopsy> device not accepting address 2, error -62
[18:58] <corshmock> sarnold: not yet pal.  I'm suffering mouse issues.  Next time the mouse stops clicking, I'm going to look at the mousepad and see it it has the same problem or not.  Then reboot, and follow your very welcomed advice pal.
[18:58] <cryptopsy> i se ubuntu spinning circle thing
[18:58] <sarnold> corshmock: oh man :(
[18:59] <corshmock> sarnold: the mouse pointer continues to move around the screen as you wish, but the buttons stop working :)
[19:00] <sarnold> corshmock: wow, I don't think I've seen that one before :)
[19:10] <Nitrigaur> I have just installed lubuntu 20.04 on my venerable Macbook 2.1 (2007) and most things work, except the microphone and line-in
[19:11] <vimart> Nitrigaur: also after checking alsa?
[19:12] <Nitrigaur> vimart, yes.
[19:13] <ioria> Nitrigaur, arecord --list-devices
[19:14] <vimart> Nitrigaur: it sucks that's still happening.
[19:14] <Nitrigaur> vimart, I get two chips, the Intel HDA and Sigmatel STAC9221 with two subdevices, for the digital and the analog part
[19:15] <Nitrigaur> ioria ^ I found those using arecord -l
[19:16] <sarnold> Nitrigaur: pavucontrol can quite often help
[19:16] <ioria> Nitrigaur, is this a laptop ?
[19:17] <kyle__> sarnold: there's another one that does what pavucontrol does, but with a GUI.  And I can't remember the name for the life of me. :(
[19:17] <ioria> ah, yes
[19:17] <Nitrigaur> ioria, yes, it's an Apple Macbook 2.1 Core2 Duo laptop (early 2007 (white))
[19:17] <sarnold> kyle__: is it spelled "pavuc<tab>" ? :)
[19:17] <ioria> Nitrigaur, enabled in alsamixer ?
[19:17] <kyle__> Nevermind, my brain isn't working.  Can't read X)
[19:18] <kyle__> I'm thinking of a uvc tweaker, not a sound one.
[19:18] <kyle__> uvcdynctrl is the cli one for that, and the gui one is the name that's escaping me
[19:18] <Nitrigaur> ioria, both MicBoost and Capture are at 100%
[19:19] <Nitrigaur> So, yes
[19:19] <kyle__> Super useful for setting up cameras on dump software
[19:19] <sarnold> kyle__: heh, what's a uvc? :)
[19:19] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  you know hdajackretask ?
[19:20] <Nitrigaur> ioria, I'm afraid I don't
[19:21] <cryptopsy> initramfs error cannot find root device
[19:21] <cryptopsy> anyone with aorus x570i mobo can usb boot?
[19:21] <lestac> what is the initramfs error?
[19:21] <cryptopsy> the initramfs error is cannot find root device
[19:22] <lestac> i get that in mi desktop device when start booting, but later start to run normal
[19:22] <cryptopsy>  initramfs; unable to a find a medium containig a live file system
[19:22] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  it's not very intuitive to use, but might help ; you select on the top right your card and on the left 'Show unconnected pins'
[19:22] <cryptopsy> i dd installed the 20.04lts iso to stick
[19:22] <lestac> thats dangerous? how to fix?
[19:23] <cryptopsy> windows bootable usb has no problem and its not even supported to usb boot windows
[19:23]  * cryptopsy shrugs
[19:23] <Nitrigaur> vimart, ioria, what's really weird is this: without anything plugged, the only input sink I see in PulseAudio volume controls is the SPDIF input, however, after I plug in a microphone in the physical line input, I can see the volume going up and down as I speak on the internal mic, but next that is (unplugged)
[19:23] <cryptopsy> fedora iso fails too
[19:24] <cryptopsy> might try to install windows if this already installed ssd can't get to systemd
[19:24] <cryptopsy> entire day wasted
[19:24] <cryptopsy> i am not made of steel
[19:25] <sarnold> cryptopsy: I'm not familiar with boot problems, so I'm not positive, but one thing I keep seeing is that "legacy" setting in the bios setup (sometimes "CSM"?) can cause problems
[19:25] <cluelessperson_> Hi there.
[19:25] <Nitrigaur> ioria, I see no less than 10 pins in hdajackretask
[19:25] <cryptopsy> sarnold: uefi only in bios
[19:26] <cluelessperson_> Is there a way to fix a wacom tablet not being found by ubuntu setting's menu?
[19:26] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  look you the mic
[19:26] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  look for  the mic
[19:26] <Nitrigaur> ioria, found it at 0x0b
[19:27] <Nitrigaur> marked internal Mic
[19:27] <vimart> Nitrigaur: It might seems stupid to you but I've solved similar problems to your by sliding volume up down in all channels in alsamixer.
[19:27] <Nitrigaur> vimart, to wake the card up ,so to speak?
[19:28] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  check 'Override' select internal mic -> apply -> reboot
[19:28] <vimart> Nitrigaur: yes :-)
[19:29] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  if not working, uncheck -> apply > reboot again
[19:30] <Guest_0> Hello all, I can't connect to the internet from my laptop on ubuntu server 20.04. I think I see the interface but I am unable to bring it up. Any tips? I'm a total newbie.
[19:31] <Nitrigaur> ioria, I can't apply it, the device claims to be busy
[19:31] <Nitrigaur> Maybe because I started it from the cmdline?
[19:32] <ioria> Nitrigaur, i don't think so
[19:33] <Nitrigaur> ioria, this is the error I get: tee: /sys/class/sound/hwC0D0/reconfig: Device or resource busy
[19:33] <sarnold> Guest_0: have you found this yet? https://netplan.io/
[19:34] <Guest_0> Yes, I have tried both static and dhcp
[19:34] <Guest_0> sarnold *
[19:35] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  Kill pulseaudio and give it another try.
[19:36] <Nitrigaur> ioria, yes, found it at the archwiki (amazing resouce that :-) )
[19:36] <ioria> yeah
[19:37] <Nitrigaur> ioria, pulseaudio keeps respawning. Typically Poettering...
[19:37] <ioria> that's normal
[19:38] <Zenix> Hi
[19:39] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  well, skip 'Apply' and  'Install boot override' and reboot
[19:40] <Nitrigaur> ioria, alright will do.
[19:47] <Nitrigaur> ioria, I'm back. After using hdajackretask, my camera cannot be found anymore
[19:48] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  your camera ?
[19:48] <Nitrigaur> ioria, yes ,the built-in webcam called isight no longer works
[19:48] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  hdajackretask  has no impact on usb devices (pci and stuff)
[19:50] <RoseBus> hello, i'm watching lecture in zoom (browser-only mode) and it keeps periodically dropping the audio and i have to leave & rejoin the zoom meeting to get audio back
[19:50] <RoseBus> none of the other members of meeting this is happening to
[19:52] <RoseBus> yesterday I followed these instructions to "attempt" to set default audio device, but it didn't work.  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1038490/how-do-you-set-a-default-audio-output-device-in-ubuntu-18-04
[19:52] <Nitrigaur> ioria, in that case it's a strange side coinincidence. My Micron/ iSight camera used to be included in the list of lsusb
[19:52] <RoseBus> could this be causing the issue?
[19:52] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  anyways, you can revert it   uncheck ->  'install' > reboot again
[19:53] <Nitrigaur> ioria, ah, it has reappeared, but it asks for firmware to be loaded, which should have been fixed since Kernel 3.0
[19:54] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  no idea about that
[19:55] <Nitrigaur> ioria, I'll try to load the firmware to see if that makes any difference, though this should not be necessary any more
[19:55] <ioria> ok
[19:56] <Siecje> I just installed postgres using apt but I can't connect to it.
[19:57] <ioria> Nitrigaur,  heading out, gl
[19:58] <Nitrigaur> ioria, thank you once more for all the help, stay safe
[20:18] <julius__> hi
[20:20] <julius__> just tried installing ubuntu on a usb stick before the new drive comes.....so i booted the installer from the first stick, but in the instal process i could not choose sdb or any device to install too in the manual partition version.  is there some kind of trick?
[21:05] <Jordan_U> julius__: How big was the USB stick you were planning to install to? Can you provide screenshots of the installer, along with the output of "sudo blkid" from the LiveUSB?
[21:06] <julius__> 16gb stick
[21:06] <julius__> i sadly shut the system down, will run that command tomorrow
[21:07] <julius__> what warning signs could blkid show?
[21:09] <Jordan_U> julius__: One (unlikely) possibility is that it would show proprietary FakeRAID metadata, which I know in past releases has caused the installer to not show a disk as an option. More than that though, it will just give me a concrete sense of what you have, help me rule out certain possibilities (like FakeRAID metadata), and might give surprising output that would give a clue. This is mostly a fishing
[21:09] <Jordan_U> expedition at this point :)
[21:10] <julius__> :)
[21:10] <julius__> thanks for the input, meal is almost ready
[21:10] <julius__> maybe we meet tomorrow
[21:21] <walter__> problems with power off, someone may help?
[21:25] <echelon> hi
[21:26] <walter__> hi, may you provide help with bug in power off in 20.04?
[21:26] <echelon> walter__: you're not supposed to poweroff
[21:27] <ppavacic> hello, I have problems since I've moved to PopOS 20.04
[21:27] <echelon> ubuntu 20.04 is meant to run 24/7
[21:27] <walter__> echelon, sometimes we poweroff the pc dont we?
[21:27] <echelon> you can't
[21:27] <hggdh> echelon: OK. Please don't
[21:28] <walter__> ahh yes the poweroff dont concludes
[21:28] <echelon> canonical is using your machines to mine bitcoins
[21:28] <hggdh> echelon: again. Please stop
[21:28] <echelon> listen
[21:28] <echelon> how do i install latest aws cli
[21:28] <ppavacic> I can't boot in my OS, I get error:"  Alert! encrypted source device UUID={some id} does not exist"
[21:29] <ppavacic> while it exists and UUID that it is showing is correcet
[21:29] <leftyfb> ppavacic: Please seek support from PopOS
[21:29] <ppavacic> It doesn't ask me for password for cryptsetup
[21:29] <echelon> the one that's installed from official ubuntu repo is stale
[21:29] <ppavacic> but that is same OS I guess
[21:29] <echelon> ppavacic: try to use cryptsetup manually
[21:30] <echelon> http://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-14.1/README_CRYPT.TXT
[21:31] <leftyfb> ppavacic: we cannot support other distro's
[21:32] <leftyfb> echelon: sudo snap install aws-cli
[21:32] <echelon> leftyfb: thanks
[21:32] <leftyfb> echelon: though, it looks like the apt package is a later version number
[21:32] <leftyfb> echelon: are you having issues with it?
[21:34] <ppavacic> okay, thanks I will look at that. I also don't have input at initramfs
[21:34] <echelon> leftyfb: it uses the python2.7 version
[21:35] <pa> ok so latest 18.04 dist upgrade broke my touchpad buttons
[21:35] <leftyfb> echelon: you have yet to specify a problem with it
[21:35] <pa> what can i do?
[21:35] <echelon> yes, it's missing eks options
[21:37] <leftyfb> echelon: did you try the snap version?
[21:38] <thumbfinger> Ever since I upgraded from 19.10 to 20.04 my system appears to stop responding to keyboard and mouse input when left idle, and the screensaver never comes up (I believe it becomes unresponsive when the screensaver is *supposed* to come up, but I haven't actually timed it).  What would the best way for me to troubleshoot this be?
[21:39] <ppavacic> I have same problem on Ryzen
[21:39] <leftyfb> ppavacic: Sorry, but we cannot support PopOS here.
[21:40] <thumbfinger> My computer does not freeze, by the way, my weather applet updates, time keeps up, CPU and Network Activity applets continue to provide output, and my cursor moves.
[21:40] <ppavacic> leftyfb I know, I know
[21:40] <eelstrebor> what would cause a usb drive to launch vlc?
[21:41] <leftyfb> ppavacic: then please stop asking for help with it
[21:45] <leftyfb> thumbfinger: try adding this to your kernel parameters: usbcore.autosuspend=-1
[21:57] <arooni> so i really managed to mess up my fonts on ubuntu 18.04 ; i have a live usb drive i made;  is it enough to simply move /etc/fonts to /etc/notmyfonts anymore and copy over the /etc/fonts from the live cd to my current system?
[22:04] <thumbfinger> @leftyfb Thanks, is there a known bug introduced that caused that?  What exactly is that doing?  I only ask because I can move the cursor, but I just can't click anything.
[22:04] <sarnold> arooni: probably not, a lot of font config is also in your home directory, and I think some in /var/cache/fontconfig, not sure where else
[22:05] <pa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1875983
[22:05] <leftyfb> thumbfinger: I didn't know you could click. If that's the case then disabling usb suspend isn't going to do anything for you
[22:05] <thumbfinger> I can't click, but I can move the cursor
[22:05] <arooni> sarnold: i really toasted it and fonts look terrible i just want to start over
[22:06] <arooni> but not reinstall ubuntu completely
[22:06] <leftyfb> thumbfinger: either way, it doesn't sound like a usb issue
[22:06] <thumbfinger> ok, thanks
[22:06] <sarnold> arooni: ow :(
[22:07] <pa> btw, the damn -51 kernel broke audio on X1 Carbon Gen7
[22:08] <pa> i wonder if canonica tests these kernels but at all..
[22:09] <Bashing-om> arooni: Maybe something like ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ' : It would guide you through the steps to choose a font and font-size.
[22:10] <leftyfb> pa: did you send them a 7th gen X1 for them to test?
[22:10] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: that only affects the framebuffer fonts
[22:10] <pa> leftyfb, i'm not affiliated with Lenovo
[22:11] <leftyfb> pa: did you file a bug?
[22:11] <pa> for X1 tablet yes
[22:12] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: :( So much for my thought - thanks for the advisement.
[22:12] <pa> for X1 carbon no, i managed to fix it  adding some options to modprobe.d following what i found on google
[22:13] <leftyfb> pa: this is a support channel. Please take rants/complaints elsewhere.
[22:14] <Bashing-om> !info fontconfig-config
[22:17] <thumbfinger> No no suggestions on how I should troubleshoot?  Maybe just keep a remote dmesg session open and hope I can catch an exception?  Can't think of anything better.
[22:24] <nikolam> I can't install Ubuntu at all (20.04) ona a newly created partition on a SSD.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> thumbfinger: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" now? Has the problem occured this boot?
[22:25] <Jordan_U> nikolam: What happens when you try?
[22:25] <nikolam> I have currently 2 partitions on that SSD, MS Windows Boot and MS Windows System partition and Windows loader in MBR.
[22:25] <arooni> Bashing-om:would putting the /etc/fonts back as it was intended help at all ? via live cd?
[22:26] <nikolam> I then use installer, after booting from Live USB, and I create new Btrfs partition and set it as root (/). It just spit out I/O errors during install and that's it.
[22:27] <Jordan_U> nikolam: Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg" after some of these IO errors? It sounds like your drive might be dying.
[22:27] <nikolam> Previously I used to have in dual-boot 18.04 , then 19.04 and 19.10 and at one moment My Btrfs partition failed to boot (GRUB were ok), and I had to recover data with Btrfs tools.
[22:27] <nikolam> And then I failed to install with 19.10, 20.04 beta and 20.04
[22:27] <nikolam> just a sec Jordan_U
[22:28] <Bashing-om> arooni: Kinda playing with your issue - be aware system fonts are "  /usr/share/fonts/ " .
[22:28] <nikolam> Jordan_U, SMART info seems OK, I just managed to install MS windows to the free space and recovered MS windows in MBR so I again have a free space
[22:28] <Jordan_U> nikolam: You should also check yout disk's S.M.A.R.T. status: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/disk-check.html.en
[22:29] <arooni> Bashing-om: when i was messing with stuff i only messed with /etc/fonts
[22:29] <arooni> so i was planning on just replacing that directory
[22:29] <Bashing-om> arooni: /etc/fonts are config files .
[22:30] <nikolam> Jordan_U, https://pastebin.com/8tKHtqBK
[22:30] <arooni> right i think i messed those up; i was trying to get emojis working and failed
[22:30] <Jordan_U> arooni: Do you have notes on what exactly you did to your fonts? Was there a guide you were following?
[22:31] <arooni> Jordan_U: i was just helped along by someone from #alacritty and i think i forgot to make backups of the directories/config files i was messing with
[22:31] <Bashing-om> arooni: 18.04 xfce4 directories: 12288 Jul 15  2019 conf.avail - 12288 Sep 24  2019 conf.d - 2582 Oct 28  2017 fonts.conf.
[22:32] <arooni> i think i 1) removed some font rules 2) removed the package infintium or something what that's called, 3) and now fonts look all janky and terrible even after messing with gnome tweaks
[22:33] <nikolam> Jordan_U, No errors in SMART for that SSD drive...
[22:33] <thumbfinger> Jordan_U I can pastebin the output once it happens.  I have to force shut down when it happens, so it hasn't happened this boot.  I'm going to go make dinner, so it **will** happen.
[22:34] <Jordan_U> nikolam: OK, those IO errors are from the LiveUSB. Can you run the integrity test at boot and confirm that it succeeds?
[22:34] <Jordan_U> arooni: Do you keep IRC logs?
[22:35] <Bliepo> Which SSD drive is this? And what is the problem?
[22:35] <Jordan_U> thumbfinger: Keeping "dmesg --human --follow" running in an ssh session seems like a good idea.
[22:35] <nikolam> Yes I have run it multiple times. It seems to me that it refuses to install on BTRFS, because it creates swap on CoW drive and then fails to install..
[22:35] <nikolam> [  290.589700] BTRFS warning (device sda3): swapfile must not be copy-on-write [  295.813813] SQUASHFS error: zlib decompression failed, data probably corrupt [  295.813815] SQUASHFS error: squashfs_read_data failed to read block 0x1d26aea
[22:35] <arooni> Jordan_U:well i will going forward now
[22:35] <arooni> apparently not :(
[22:36] <nikolam> I have been testing USB drive multiple times
[22:37] <nikolam> Also 19.10 install has same problem as 20.04. I had been using 19.10 but it were update from 19.04 , last install was with 18.04
[22:38] <nikolam> Maybe if I create swap partition to have it just during install. I now just disable swap after install, not to trash SSD.
[22:39] <sarnold> if you're swapping hundreds of gigabytes each day you need to buy more RAM ASAP
[22:39] <Jordan_U> nikolam: The squashfs errors confuse me. Squashfs used to store the vast majority of the data on the LiveUSB, and is only really used outside of Live environments with snaps.
[22:39] <Jordan_U> s/Squashfs used/Squashfs is used/
[22:39] <nikolam> I bet installer is broken when installing on Btrfs since 19.10..
[22:40] <nikolam> Let me try with separate swap partition and see
[22:43] <nikolam> https://pastebin.com/bzyawc5u
[22:44] <Jordan_U> nikolam: Please pastebin the output of "mount" so we can see what squashfs filesystems you have mounted.
[22:44] <cgi> apt install spellcheck - not working in 20.04lts - can anyone tell me why?
[22:45] <sarnold> nikolam: is that the installer? did it perform an integrity check at boot?
[22:45] <nikolam> Jordan_U, https://pastebin.com/TWPsaQQn
[22:46] <nikolam> sarnold, it is live session from USB and then installer started from live session desktop.
[22:46] <nikolam> Yes it passes check when I force it to check
[22:46] <nikolam> It is HP ProDesk 600 G1 machine.
[22:47] <nikolam> It behaves the same when I tested installing with installer directly, when I tested with 20.04 Beta
[22:47] <oerheks> !info spell
[22:48] <oerheks> gnome-spell is a dead project
[22:48] <Jordan_U> nikolam: The only squashfs filesystem is from the LiveUSB. I don't know what the problem is, but it seems unrelated to btrfs. Can you try with another LiveUSB? Can you try adding the "toram" kernel parameter? (toram will copy all files into RAM at boot, thus never needing to read from the USB drive again).
[22:49] <sarnold> [   11.849138] sd 6:0:0:0: [sde] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK
[22:49] <sarnold> nikolam: can you plug it in via a different port? or try a different stick?
[22:49] <nikolam> Jordan_U, let me reboot from USB, checking files again on it and then with "toram" to make sure.
[22:50] <nikolam> Yes, It is 2.0 card reader with SD 4G card inside on 2.0 port. I could put it on 3.0 port. Yes, i can also try with another USB flash.
[22:54] <cgi> oerheks, spellcheck is for checking bash scripts
[22:54] <sarnold> cgi: try apt install shellcheck
[22:55] <oerheks> and synaptic, good detailed softwarecenter.
[23:00] <arooni> ok that went great!  luckily it was just a font config issue and resetting the conf files to the live cd's fonts via rsync restores my sanity
[23:00] <arooni> these live bootable usb sticks are pretty useful when you bork up some system config
[23:01] <ecbrown> using zfs on root, 20.04.  is it possible to encrypt and remain bootable?  i'd like to issue: zfs create -o encryption=on rpool
[23:02] <ecbrown> (or something like this)
[23:03] <ecbrown> perhaps i mean: zpool set feature@encryption=enabled rpool
[23:05] <sarnold> ecbrown: I haven't yet done this myself, but I *think* even once you've enabled encyrption on the pool, you can have a mix of encrypted and plaintext datasets
[23:15] <cryptopsy> do i have to restart sshd if i changed user passwd im trying to ssh in?
[23:15] <sarnold> no
[23:15] <cryptopsy> ip a shows 192.168.0.21 and .22 , i cant ssh as root
[23:16] <EriC^^> cryptopsy: root logins might be disabled in /etc/sshd/sshd_config
[23:16] <EriC^^> */etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:17] <sarnold> iirc sshd config can also deny passwd auth for root specifically
[23:21] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: root should never be allowed to ssh in.
[23:23] <cryptopsy> i stillcant with PermitRootLogin yes
[23:24] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: in what scenario do you feel the need to login as root?
[23:24] <cryptopsy> my laptop keyboard is more comfortable while i work in this chroot
[23:25] <leftyfb> huh?
[23:25] <cryptopsy> i want to ssh in instead of working as root user manipulating a chroot
[23:25] <sarnold> just use sudo -s
[23:25] <leftyfb> cryptopsy: so ssh in and sudo -s
[23:26] <cryptopsy> its a liveUSB theres no users set up
[23:26] <cryptopsy> please tell me how to ssh as root
[23:29] <Jordan_U> cryptopsy: In the Ubuntu LiveUSB there's an "ubuntu" user setup, and there's no ssh server setup. I'm confused as to how you're able to install ssh but not add a new user, or setup a password for the Ubuntu user.
[23:29] <cryptopsy> so, no?
[23:30] <sarnold> cryptopsy: did you restart ssh after changing its config?
[23:30] <cryptopsy> i did systemctl restart sshd
[23:31] <sarnold> and it loaded correctly?
[23:31] <cryptopsy> status shows it is running
[23:31] <cryptopsy> but it refuses my logins
[23:31] <sarnold> does it log why?
[23:32] <cryptopsy> i tried it in another shell and it worked
[23:32] <cryptopsy> looks like we're in business
[23:32] <sarnold> woot
[23:32] <cryptopsy> is there a default timeout?
[23:34] <sarnold> I believe so, logingracetime on my laptop is 120 seconds
[23:34] <ecbrown> sarnold: thanks for your feedback. i will try it on a spare and see how it goes.  apologies i lost my irc connection, in case someone wrote after sarnold
[23:35] <ecbrown> (regarding zfs encryption)
[23:35] <cryptopsy> neat
[23:35] <sarnold> ecbrown: I don't think you missed anything
[23:36] <Jordan_U> arooni: For future reference, you can also restore configuration files to their default like this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/66533/how-can-i-restore-configuration-files
[23:42] <cryptopsy> is rsync over sshfs much slower than using rsyncd ?
[23:44] <sarnold> I've never benchmarked it, but I expect the sshfs approach to be slower, potentially much slower on subsequent runs
[23:45] <oerheks> datacap is higher.