[01:54] <sorcerer> so I upgraded to 20.04 and now the characters in my terminal are showing as block instead of username@computer
[01:54] <sorcerer> blocks*
[05:04] <steve86> how long does it take to install xubuntu 18.04.4?
[05:04] <steve86> i'm currently installing and it seemed stuck on getting the time from a network time server
[05:05] <steve86> currently using firefox through pre install screen
[05:06] <diogenes_> steve86, depends on the hardware, the average would be 15 min.
[05:21] <steve86> Thanks diogenes
[05:23] <steve86> maybe i'm missing a codec of some sort? i was getting an error that the usb downloaded the media too fast
[05:23] <steve86> i plan on returning in about 5 minutes to see
[05:34] <steve86> i'm back... still not installed...
[05:38] <diogenes_> steve86, is the progress bar moving?
[05:39] <steve86> no progress bar
[05:40] <steve86> shows 2 happy faced ppl
[05:40] <steve86> 3
[05:40] <steve86> happy faced ppl
[05:40] <steve86> Join the community is the page
[05:40] <diogenes_> hmmm
[05:41] <steve86> i tried installing the grub just to see if it would do something
[05:41] <steve86> it seems it did
[05:43] <steve86> i can't paste the screenshot somewhere here in forum?
[05:46] <diogenes_> !pastebin
[08:57] <coconut> Is there any window resize tool like "Spectacle"(macOS) ?
[09:51] <gnrp> coconut: xfce can do that by default
[09:52] <gnrp> settings -> window management -> tile windows left/right/etc.
[09:52] <gnrp> (exact wording might differ, I am not on English here)
[09:55] <coconut> gnrp, can it make a 50% width windowed window wider for a small amount too?(some websites in firefox need this)
[09:56]  * coconut need to go to the kitchen. brb
[10:00] <gnrp> coconut: Not that I know of. I thought there is something to resize a window just by a certain bit, but don'T find it
[10:04] <diogenes_> coconut, you can use wmctrl + xdotool and make scripts for different applications to obey the given size and position, there also devilspie and kpie.
[10:22] <pongal> hi there
[10:30] <coconut> good to know there are techniques for that!
[10:31] <diogenes_> !hi | pongal
[10:31] <pongal> hi diogenes_ I remember you from 2 years ago
[10:31] <pongal> Were you a regular here ?
[10:32] <diogenes_> pongal, yes i've been here for a long time.
[10:33] <pongal> I installed ubuntu on my system again, and I would like to use Ubuntu full time
[10:33] <pongal> But it's not so convinient for someone who got spoiled on windows machines
[10:33] <pongal> for eg, there is no easy way to disable webcam and microphone
[10:35] <diogenes_> and how you do it in windows?
[10:36] <pongal> in windows 10, there is a setting in control panel to enable/disable webcam system wide
[10:36] <pongal> I dont know how to do that in ubuntu
[10:36] <pongal> anyway, i am looking for some courses or youtube channels to learn linux indepth
[10:37] <diogenes_> there are plenty.
[12:15] <Lorenzo> ?
[12:15] <Guest78450> Qualcuno gentilmente mi spiega cosa è successo con Snapstore?
[12:17] <Guest78450> Ho capito bene che l'aggiornamento ha sostituito Gnome Software con Snap Store?
[12:20] <diogenes_> !it
[12:21] <Guest78450> Could somebody confirm Snap Store automatically replaced Gnome Software on Xubuntu?
[12:48] <xu-help77w> Please, I am trying to understand what happened with last system update on Xubuntu. It seems Snap Store was installed automatically in the "System" menu and previous software-management-application was removed.
[12:51] <xu-help77w> Before the update "snap list" showed nothing installed, now it shows:
[12:51] <xu-help77w> core18             20200311            1705  latest/stable    canonical✓  basegnome-3-34-1804    0+git.2c86692       27    latest/stable    canonical✓  -gtk-common-themes  0.1-36-gc75f853     1506  latest/stable    canonical✓  -snap-store         3.36.0-74-ga164ec9  433   latest/stable/…  canonical✓  -snapd              2.44.3
[12:51] <xu-help77w> 7264  latest/stable    canonical✓  snapd
[13:04] <diogenes_> xu-help77w, that's intended.
[13:07] <xu-help77w> that WHAT?
[13:08] <xu-help77w> replacing software without asking???
[13:08] <diogenes_> Snap Store was installed automatically and  previous software-management-application was removed.
[13:08] <diogenes_> this ^^^^
[13:09] <diogenes_> xu-help77w, more than that, the replace xfce version without asking )
[13:09] <diogenes_> they*
[13:11] <xu-help77w> ???
[13:11] <xu-help77w> what xfce version?
[13:13] <diogenes_> i mean when you upgrade 18.04 to 20.04 your xfce version will change from 4.12 to 4.14.
[13:13] <xu-help77w> that is clearly stated
[13:14] <xu-help77w> the system update is for updating installed software
[13:14] <xu-help77w> not for removing and replacing
[13:14] <xu-help77w> plus snap store does not work with xubuntu!!
[13:14] <diogenes_> xu-help77w, in any case your question is for canonical.
[13:15] <xu-help77w> well yes, and all xubuntu users
[13:15] <xu-help77w> who will update and find snap store installed
[13:15] <diogenes_> i use synaptic.
[13:17] <xu-help77w> me too
[13:17] <xu-help77w> one more reason to not have snap store enforced on me
[13:29] <xu-help77w> I would say https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231094/why-do-i-have-the-gnome-3-34-1804-snap-package-installed-on-ubuntu-20-04-after
[13:30] <xu-help77w> this is really disconcerning
[13:37] <xu-help4w> hlw
[13:38] <xu-help4w> I am a new linux user and I have installed xubuntu.Unfortunately my brightness changing doesn't work of notification panel,can you help me?
[14:01] <coconut> does xubuntu has the same nvidia optimus sys-tray like ubuntu-mate when "nvidia optimus" installed? ( https://ubuntu-mate.org/images/blog/eoan/mate-optimus-19.10.1.png )
[14:03] <coconut> with "the same" i mean that one can select for intel or nvidia card
[14:36] <pmjdebruijn> does xfce not use graphical-session.target.wants ?
[14:37] <pmjdebruijn> is /etc/xdg/autostart still the way to go for xfce?
[15:05] <brainwash> pmjdebruijn: why would it use that?
[15:16] <coconut> Does xubuntu has the same nvidia optimus sys-tray like thing as ubuntu-mate has when "nvidia optimus" is installed? ( https://ubuntu-mate.org/images/blog/eoan/mate-optimus-19.10.1.png )
[15:17] <xu-help99w> I have a problem with Xubuntu 20.04 and my Fujitsu lifebook P702 laptop
[15:17] <xu-help99w> Where can I get support?
[15:19] <genii> The best thing is just to describe the problem in here, and maybe a helper will know how to assist
[15:20] <xu-help99w> Namely, it does not have a separate numeric keyboard only through the "FN" key is obtained. In Xubuntu it is natively active and I do not know how to turn it off.
[15:21] <xu-help99w> Czyli chcę wpisać literę i, ale wpisuje się 5, chcę wpisać literę K, ale wpisuje się 2. I tak dalej.
[15:21] <diogenes_> xu-help99w, try hitting padlock key.
[15:22] <diogenes_> rozumijesz?
[15:22] <xu-help99w> When I install Kubuntu there are no problems. The keyboard works normally
[15:28] <xu-help99w> And why is that so? Can anything be done to make the keyboard work normally like in Kubuntu? In Xubuntu 19.10 there was the same problem.
 xu-help99w, try hitting padlock key.
 rozumijesz?
[15:31] <diogenes_> ma i invisible guys? test
[15:32] <coconut> diogenes_, no you're visible
[15:32] <diogenes_> coconut, thanks )
[15:33] <xu-help99w> Only it does nothing. Only pressing the FN key helps. But after releasing it, the problem returns.
[15:34] <diogenes_> xu-help99w, Ty widziales co ja napisalem?
[15:35] <xu-help99w> Yes. I saw - only used Polish translator.
[15:36] <diogenes_> xu-help99w, are you polish?
[15:37] <xu-help99w> Tak. Jestem z Polski.
[15:37] <xu-help99w> Tak nie znam dobrze angielskiego, więc używam translatora google.
[15:39] <xu-help99w> Yes. I'm from Poland.
[15:39] <diogenes_> xu-help99w, napisz szczegolna model komputera.
[15:40]  * linuxnt los saluda desde Pesquería, México.
[15:40] <xu-help99w> Fujitsu P702
[15:40] <xu-help99w> tylko wersja z procesorem i3 2370
[15:41] <diogenes_> ok czekaj.
[15:41] <xu-help99w> ale mostej północny jest 3 generacji
[15:41] <xu-help99w>  HM76 Chipset
[15:45] <diogenes_> xu-help99w, zobacz na zdjecju: https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/numlock_keys_highlit.png
[15:45] <diogenes_> nacisnij na Numlk.
[15:45] <xu-help99w> Tak to jest dokładnie taki układ.
 nacisnij na Numlk.
 nacisnij na Numlk.
[15:46] <xu-help99w> jednak wciskanie tego przycisku numlock nic nie daje.
[15:46] <diogenes_> hmm
[15:46] <xu-help99w> pomaga tylko wciśnięcie klawisza funkcyjnego do
[15:46] <linuxnt> La komputilio sur la tablo!
[15:47] <xu-help99w> Za to gdy Kubuntu instaluję takich problemów nie ma
[15:47] <xu-help99w> klawiatura działa normalnie - czyli jest poprawnie przez system wykrywana
[15:48] <xu-help99w> dlaczego tak - jest? System - jądro ma w sobie wiecej sterowników?
[15:49] <xu-help99w> Teraz z tego samego problemu zainstalowałem Kubuntu 20.04
[15:49] <diogenes_> xu-help99w, zmien typ klawiatury tutaj: https://i.imgur.com/AEa7sQy.png
[15:49] <xu-help99w> Bo przy Xubuntu nie byłem w stanie normalnie hasła do WiFi włączyć.
[15:49] <xu-help99w> wpisać
[15:50] <xu-help99w> Dobrze. Odpalę instalację Xubuntu raz jeszcze i zobaczę czy to coś pomoże.
[15:51] <diogenes_> takze sprobuj ctrl+numlk albo fn+numlk.
[15:52] <xu-help99w> odpalam ładowanie z płyty i zaraz będzie wszystko wiadomo.
[15:52] <xu-irc4w> hi Xubuntu 20.04
[15:52] <xu-irc4w> LTS 2023 or 2025/
[15:53] <diogenes_>  2023
[15:54] <xu-irc4w> So only the main GNOME desktop 2025? or xubuntu may get kernel support?
[16:03] <xu-help99w> Więc porobiłem teraz testy.
[16:04] <xu-help99w> i jeżeli wcisnę FN + Numlock + literę
[16:05] <xu-help99w> i puszczę to jest dobrze. Można pisać normalnie
[16:05] <xu-help99w> ale czasami jak wskoczy układ stary
[16:06] <xu-help99w> to na powrót nie zawsze zaskakuje
[16:06] <xu-help99w> i trzeba kilka razy wciskać tę kombinację żeby zaskoczyło.
[16:10] <xu-help99w> W kubuntu działa to z marszu
[16:10] <dispo> speak english
[16:11] <xu-help99w> I. No. Only through the translator can I speak.
[16:13] <dispo> this is an english channel
[16:13] <dispo> english speaking only
[16:14] <xu-help99w> That's why I use google translator for conversations.
[17:11] <wr> how do i change the keyboard layout permanently on the xubuntu?
[17:12] <diogenes_> wr, you mean to set a default language?
[17:13] <wr> diogenes_, yes
[17:13] <wr> setxkbmap en
[17:14] <wr> diogenes_, i used the setxknmap but now the user says that on typing keys are typing other letters
[17:14] <wr> *setkbmap
[17:14] <wr> *setxkbmap
[17:14] <diogenes_> wr, https://i.imgur.com/n4EUM2G.png
[17:14] <wr> diogenes_, yes i used that one too
[17:15] <diogenes_> wr, what language?
[17:16] <wr> diogenes_, when user types keyboard ain't still making it right, when i used the setxkbmap it putted it typing correct, but now user said to me keys are changed again, what could the issue?
[17:18] <wr> diogenes_, i'm gonna rephrase this cause my english today is awful
[17:19] <wr> diogenes_, when the user types on keyboard it ain't still making it right, when i used the setxkbmap it putted it typing correctly, but now the user said to me the keys are changed again, what could the issue?
[17:20] <wr> after a reboot things went back to same situation
[17:20] <wr> i read this https://askubuntu.com/questions/342066/how-to-permanently-configure-keyboard
[17:22] <diogenes_> wr, i'm not too experienced in keyboard stuff sorry, maybe you have 'save session' enable.
[17:29] <pgpfox> Hi, anyone knows how i can change the fontsize and visability of my window description? Its a little blurry and ugly right now and i dont know how to change this. https://imgur.com/GGbQxuj.png << printscreen of issue.
[17:32] <diogenes_> pgpfox, change window decoration theme.
[17:34] <pgpfox> @diogenes_ where can i find this
[17:34] <diogenes_> settind > window manager
[17:34] <diogenes_> settings*
[17:42] <pgpfox> diogenes_:  thank you, you are a hero. :)
[17:43] <diogenes_> pgpfox, you're welcome and thanks :)
[17:53] <pgpfox> i cant change desktop even though my keyboard shortcuts says ctrl + alt + arrowUP / arrowDOWN shall switch between desktops?
[17:54] <pgpfox> nothing happens..
[17:55] <wr> diogenes_, has that, will that change any KB setting?
[17:56] <diogenes_> pgpfox, you mean virtual desktops?
[17:56] <pgpfox> yes
[17:58] <pgpfox> diogenes_:  yes
[17:59] <diogenes_> pgpfox, settings > window manager > keyboard there is where you define the shotcuts for that stuff.
[17:59] <pgpfox> diogenes_:  yes, thats were im at
[17:59] <pgpfox> default it says ctrl + alt + up shall take me to upper desktop
[18:00] <pgpfox> ctrl + alt + down = lower desktop
[18:00] <diogenes_> wr, i mean if you have 'save session' enabled it might cause issues.
[18:00] <pgpfox> but it doesnt do shit when i press these keys
[18:00] <wr> diogenes_, can you elaborate more why? i thought the save would keep settings
[18:03] <diogenes_> wr, because 'save session' option is the achiles's heel of xfce, it's the buggies thing in the DE and you can't imagine how many trouble it causes to the users, sometimes it screws up the entire desktop so you can't even login, sometimes it doesn't remember correctly the settings and can start your desktop without some core components, other times it won't allow you to save your changes and will revert the older ones after the reboot and many many
[18:03] <diogenes_> more.
[18:04] <wr> maybe i should start disabling it
[18:05] <diogenes_> disable it and after that run: rm ~/.cache/sessions/* and reboot and see if your problem still persists.
[18:08] <abtm> has anyone else noticed the funky re-install of the snap store snap?
[18:09] <diogenes_> there have been complains.
[18:11] <abtm> on some of my vms it just seems to hang....
[19:35] <xu-help14w> does anybody have problems to install an canon mg5250???
[19:56] <xu-help42w> Help me :(
[19:57] <xu-help42w> Driver E2-3200 with Radeon™ HD 6370D for Xubuntu 20 ? :(  :(
[19:58] <xu-help42w> grazie a tutti
[20:02] <turbokitty> for some reason these icons "file system root" and "efi" appeared on my desktop for no real reason. When i try to open the efi icon it says "permission denied" having these show up all of the sudden today seems really weird.
[20:02] <turbokitty> https://imgur.com/XAu4jK8
[20:05] <turbokitty> Im running xubuntu 20.04.
[20:24] <brainwash> turbokitty: did you maybe uninstall gvfs?
[20:24] <brainwash> turbokitty: or change /etc/fstab ?
[20:31] <turbokitty> no i didnt unstall gvfs or change /etc/fstab
[20:31] <turbokitty> uninstall*
[20:35] <brainwash> turbokitty: are those entries listed in thunar's side pane also?
[20:47] <turbokitty> yes
[20:51] <brainwash> turbokitty: is the env var DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS set?
[20:52] <brainwash> echo $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
[20:52] <brainwash> in a terminal window
[20:52] <turbokitty> unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
[20:54] <turbokitty> is what it says when i run that command
[20:54] <brainwash> that's okay I guess
[20:57] <brainwash> "file system root" and other hidden partitions can appear in thunar (and xfdesktop) when that variable is not set
[20:57] <brainwash> because that disables gvfs
[20:57] <brainwash> but in your case, it is set
[20:58] <brainwash> and you confirmed that you have "gvfs" related processes running?
[20:59] <brainwash> gvfsd and gvfs-*
[21:02] <turbokitty> i never uninstalled it but i can check
[21:02] <turbokitty> ya it's running
[21:02] <turbokitty> there's a whole bunch
[21:03] <turbokitty> one of them is http which is kind of odd
[21:06] <turbokitty> this is what shows up when i look if this helps https://pastebin.com/8Efuf1bm
[21:07] <Vata0> is it possible to hide all system tray icons like windows does with the little arror
[21:10] <brainwash> turbokitty: well.. at this point I would check if the problem occurs with a second user account too
[21:11] <turbokitty> so another account with sudo like the one i am on or just a regular user?
[21:11] <brainwash> turbokitty: regular user
[21:12] <turbokitty> Though what do you mean, the icons, or the strange proccesses when I looked for gvfs?
[21:13] <brainwash> not sure if I understand that question
[21:14] <brainwash> gvfs is a backend which helps to mount various things
[21:14] <turbokitty> the icons i mentioned in the screen shot and or the what i thought was weird proccesses
[21:19] <brainwash> check if a fresh user account displays those unnecessary icons also
[21:19] <brainwash> the gvfs processes are expected to be there
[21:24] <davidw> hi - am I missing something for do-release-upgrade to upgrade to focal? I have Prompt=normal, and not lts
[21:26] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | davidw
[21:27] <lighterowl> oh wow, there's a canned response for this now. will keep that in mind.
[21:27] <davidw> I'm on 19.10 though
[21:28] <davidw> guess -d still works though
[21:29] <lighterowl> davidw: I did that last Friday and it kind-of-sort-of-mostly worked, but do-release-upgrade choked on some python packages and finally gave up. had to do apt-get --fix-broken to actually upgrade everything.
[21:29] <davidw> yikes... fingers crossed
[21:29] <lighterowl> yeah, well, the system works fine after all that, so don't worry more than you need to.
[21:35] <turbokitty> brainwash, i tried logging into a regular user account but all it did was open a blank desktop with no icons or anything, I had to press alt + ctrl + del to get out of there.
[21:38] <brainwash> turbokitty: more trouble =S