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IrcsomeBot<ace_player> Check this release noted regarding certified oem https://ubuntu.com/blog/whats-new-in-ubuntu-desktop-20-04-lts02:21
IrcsomeBot<ace_player> Tier-1 OEM support … Ubuntu is used extensively throughout the enterprise, government, public sectors and education. To meet the demand for pre-loaded hardware from these areas, Canonical is committed to working closely with Dell, HP and Lenovo. Here are some examples of the work we do for our OEM partners that adds value to all users of Linux on the desktop. … Starting with Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 LTS, it is now possible to obtai02:22
IrcsomeBotcertified device experience by installing the general release of Ubuntu. When installed on certified hardware, the device-specific enablement will be automatically installed and configured; just as it would be in the preloaded factory images.02:22
IrcsomeBot<ace_player> I want to know if Kubuntu will include this new enablement feature or if I have to use stock Ubuntu02:23
IrcsomeBot<Arun V> dota202:29
IrcsomeBot<Arun V> xiaoshuo02:29
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> como dedis02:30
FurryFennecLoving Kubuntu 20.04 so far!02:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ditto :)02:40
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valorie@ace_player I think not; that is for paid Canonical customers I believe03:04
IrcsomeBot<ace_player> No it’s for anyone who had a certified device03:04
IrcsomeBot<ace_player> Has*03:05
valoriewell, the Kubuntu Focus machine is pre-loaded with Kubuntu03:05
valorieyou could ask them, I guess: https://kfocus.org/03:06
valoriehttps://kde.org/hardware has some more, like Zareason03:07
valorieI don't have a clue whether they are an "oem partner" or not03:07
IrcsomeBot<ace_player> I don’t think they are03:11
IrcsomeBot<ace_player> It’s possible this is part of the Ubuntu base as it’s related to firmware config and power management.   But I don’t know if it’s only enabled in stock such as the Zfs snapshots03:15
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Jamehello04:32
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IrcsomeBot<Swift110> Sup04:46
Jamelearning KDE :)04:59
valorielearning Plasma, or all our software and people?05:00
valorie:-)05:00
Jamehello valorie05:02
Jamenice to see you agin05:02
valoriehi again05:02
JameI am really enjoy my shift to Kubuntu05:02
valorieenjoying your new install?05:02
valorieoh, good05:02
Jameyes yes05:02
Jame:)05:02
JameEven Konversation is awesome, easy to use05:03
JameI had nothing of this sort before05:03
valorieyes, it's completely awesome05:03
valoriebefore, I had only used mIRC05:03
valorieKonvi completely won me over and let me leave all Win software behind05:04
valorieit was awhile after that I found the KDE community05:04
Jame:)05:04
JameIRC is good. When you have an app like Konversation05:05
JameI have tried KDE a couple of years back05:05
JameSomeone told me it is like Windows05:05
JameBut it had too much grey in Windows when I tried05:06
JameBut now, it is really polished05:06
JameI think some new version of qt, right ?05:06
valorieKDE is a community05:09
valorieqt keeps upgrading, true05:09
JameLike Gnome ?05:09
valorieand so do we05:09
Jamesorry, didn05:09
Jamedidn't follow*05:10
valoriegnome uses gtk, which is an entirely different toolkit05:10
JameQt is different from KDE ?05:10
valorieyes05:10
valorieit's a toolkit we use05:10
valorieothers use it as well05:10
valorieeven Microsoft05:10
valorie:-)05:10
JameI see05:10
valorieworks on phones, in cars, etc.05:10
JameI am only good things to say about default appearence in Kubuntu05:11
Jamephone and cars !!05:11
Jameawesome05:11
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> GTK was a cool toolkit made by Gnome, it is very cool but only works properly in some linux distros05:11
valorieand most KDE software runs everywhere too05:11
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> QT is other case, it works basically everywhere05:11
valorieyep05:11
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> You know telegram?05:11
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> pure qt05:11
valorieyup05:11
JameIs it ?05:11
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> yup05:12
Jame+105:12
valoriewell, it's a toolkit05:12
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> telegram = qt + custom protocol05:12
valorieso not *just* Qt05:12
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> yeah05:12
JameI see05:12
JameI have never seen anything in default Linux this beautiful05:12
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> i really like both QT and GTK, but gtk has very very bad design choices05:12
valoriethere are lots of Qt apps around that are not made by KDE05:12
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> KDE is just freaking awesome05:13
valoriewe are!05:13
Jamegot it :)05:13
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> yes05:13
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> kde is a community, is not a specific company, i mean, is a company made by a lot of people around the world05:13
Jameon TV as well ? Is that you people ?05:13
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> you can be part too05:13
Jamesure, I will try05:13
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> i mean, just by using kde, you are part of the kde project05:14
valoriethere is a new TV project called Big Screen, I think05:14
valorieusing kde software05:14
Jame+105:14
valoriewe the community aren't used05:14
valorielol05:14
valoriehttps://dot.kde.org/2020/03/26/plasma-tv-presenting-plasma-bigscreen05:15
valorieit's brand new05:15
valoriehave not tried it05:15
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> kde is great because it works great in trash computers like mine lol05:16
valoriekde *software*05:17
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> yes05:17
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> i mean, plasma05:17
valorieI don't work in your computer05:17
valorieright05:17
valorie:-)05:17
Jamewhat is the difference between Plasma and Neon05:22
JameI use Kubuntu 20.04, so I am using KDE Plasma, right ?05:22
Jamesorry, was afk05:23
valorieyes05:24
valorieneon is another project run by friends of ourse05:25
valorieours05:25
valorieit is based on Ubuntu LTS base with the very latest KDE software05:25
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> yup05:25
valorielatest plasma, latest apps05:25
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> neon is pretty good actually05:25
valorieright now they are working on getting 20.04 working for them05:26
IrcsomeBot<darltrash> Kubuntu: Keep it stable! … Neon: Keep it updated!05:26
valoriewe try to keep it stable and updated05:26
valorieif possible05:26
JameI see05:26
valorieespecially if you add the backports PPA05:27
valoriewhich I do05:27
valoriewe all work together05:27
Jamewho uses Neon ?05:27
Jamegreat +105:27
valoriesome of the neon team used to be in Kubuntu05:27
valorieJame: many kde devels do05:27
Jameoh05:28
valoriebut many people do05:28
valorieesp. if the older base is better for their machines05:28
JameI see05:28
Jamewhich is the support forum for Kubuntu05:29
Jameofficial05:29
JameI want to say something, when the app icon is hung by the cursor, there is a burr -ed black border around the app icon05:31
valoriethere is kubuntuforum and forum.kde.org -- both in the topic05:32
Jamethanks05:32
user|25316Kubuntu 20.04 , KDEConnect not working, it not display any devices in network and cannot connect to other.05:33
Jame1. Installed app 2. Both PC and phone in same network ?05:34
valoriehmmm, might be a mismatch between the versions05:35
valoriemine's working05:36
IrcsomeBot<bkoustubha> Ubuntu 20.4 has a broke installer. Tried abut 3 to 4 times with iso re-download05:44
valoriethis is #kubuntu -- we have no reports of our installer being broken05:46
valoriedid you mean Kubuntu installer?05:46
IrcsomeBot<bkoustubha> @valorie, Yeah both kubuntu and ubuntu05:46
valoriedoesn't mean that it couldn't be....05:46
valorieat what point did it "break"?05:47
valoriedid you file a bug about it?05:47
valorieit's called ubiquity btw05:47
valorieand I bet half the bug reports I've filed are against ubiquity05:48
valorieif you are going to file, it's best to drop to a terminal when it crashes05:49
valorieand type ubuntu-bug ubiquity05:49
valorieand just answer the questions05:50
MetamorphosisHow to edit/remove software entries from application launcher (kickoff menu)06:12
rebeccaanyone noticed a recent update causing mouse click weirdness?06:20
IrcsomeBotDante_44 was added by: Dante_4406:22
IrcsomeBot<Dante_44> Hi there, Iam new here. Plz adv - can i upgrade kubuntu 19.10 to 20.04? Or do i need to perform a clean install06:25
lordievaderGood morning06:28
rebeccait's like a de-bounce bug on mouse clicks06:41
rebeccai think it's mistaking clicks for click+drags or something06:42
rebeccai have my mouse drag time set to 1000ms but it's still happening. seems to be somewhere in the desktop manager as it's impacting plasma panel and other programs like konversation06:43
rebeccaupdating webkit seems to have improved the issue mostly06:51
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Metamorphosisrebecca I lost 3 rounds of openRA game because of the same weird mouse activity.07:33
IrcsomeBot<da_ni_el> @valorie, @Dante_4407:57
m_tadeuhi...I'm having a huge problem with my network. a while after connecting, I lose ipv4. only have ipv6. reconnecting won't help. any idea what is going on?09:22
IrcsomeBot<bkoustubha> Kubuntu installer booted yet after checking disk it didn't even load just hanged up in boot logo09:36
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Jamehi09:43
masonbee-M1<bkoustubha> On initial boot there is an option for start in Safe Graphics mode. Have you tried that?09:59
IrcsomeBot<bkoustubha> @masonbee-M1> <bkoustubha, Yeah, yet doesn't work10:24
BluesKaj'Morning all10:54
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viewer|63Hello kind people. Has anyone else had this problem in 20.04? (upgraded from 19.10) My wallpapers are sometimes on the opposite monitor but my displays still show that they are in the right position. What's even more annoying is the plasma taskbars only show applications that are on the opposite display instead of the display that the taskbar is11:33
viewer|63on. Yesterday I rebooted and it fixed itself, but today the problem is back. I tried moving the panel to the other display, but it still only displays applications on the opposite monitor from the taskbar. I also tried recreating the panel (no effect) and unchecking then checking "show only tasks from the current screen" (no effect).11:33
ClqyHi, Im trying to install from a live boot and i get the error, unable to install grub to /dev/sda11:33
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Hi Clqy, did you Succeded to format the hdd?11:34
Clqywell ive got everything backed up to an external hd11:35
Clqyq different one from the live boot11:35
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I understand, I meant the internal hdd of your pc11:36
Clqywhen i format through gparted im not sure exqctly what to do; ive tried many things. i cant complete the install process11:36
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> You have to format and you can create a filesystem ext411:36
Clqythere is currently two partition sda1 and 2  1 is efi  2 is ex4 mounted at target?? and there is 1mb of unallocated space after11:40
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> That's all right!11:44
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Efi partition is a system partition11:44
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Just try to install kubuntu now11:44
Clqydoes sda2 need a grub flag or something like that§11:44
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> In the installation process?11:44
Clqyi have tried and just near the end it gives me an error unable to install grub to sda11:45
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> What do you mean by grub flag? If you do guided installation you should not worry about that11:45
Clqyyes in the installation app11:45
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Mmmm i don't know, maybe you need to set the bios es efi mode11:45
Clqythe installation doesnt work, i try to figure out if i can change something to make it work11:45
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I had the same problem because I had the UEFI mode enabled11:45
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Had to change it from the BIOS11:45
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Try to change this setting in the BIOS , switch to Legacy mode and not UEFI mode11:46
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I had the exact same problem last time with a pc where I had installed Windows with UEFI mode11:46
Clqyok ill see if i can figure that out11:46
BluesKajmaje sure fast boot and secure boot are disabled in the BIOS if you are using UEFI boot11:47
BluesKajmake sure11:47
Clqyi havent been able to locate these setting before11:47
Clqywould that be the boot order tab and disable uefi?11:49
Clqyi mean disable the legacy11:50
Clqyill be back11:50
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IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> BluesKaj: I am no expert but I failed as well to install 20.04 with both secure boot as fast boot disabled. Using EFI just saved me.11:53
BluesKajyes, UEFI is best accoeding to the devs11:59
BluesKajaccording to11:59
jandri555How can I get kubuntu to ask me for confirmation before sending a file to the trash? i just moved to kubuntu 20.12:00
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Clqyok so the installation hasnt worked... im not sure i changed bios settings properly12:07
Clqytheres no obvious fastboot or secure boot to change that i could see12:08
Clqyor even to change from legacy to efi,12:08
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Am I wrong or legacy and EFI are the same thing?12:08
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Legacy means the old BIOS, The other option is UEFI12:09
Clqywhere do i change this§12:11
BluesKajjandri555, dolphin>settings>configure dolphin>general12:11
jandri555Thanks :)12:12
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Clqy: in the BIOS settings12:12
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> When you start your pc12:12
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I don't know that motherboard you have12:12
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> What*12:12
Clqyok ill just go have another look12:13
IrcsomeBotJulien was added by: Julien12:14
IrcsomeBot<deathnote091> @da_ni_el, Okay Rufus worked12:24
IrcsomeBot<deathnote091> No more checkfile error12:25
IrcsomeBot<deathnote091> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3PKaXty8/file_28583.jpg12:29
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Clqyok is there another way to do this? in bios there is no secure boot option to change.... there is something to change quickboot to fullboot, i did that and disabled all legacy boot options and re ran the installation proccess, same error... cant install grub to sda12:32
BluesKajClqy, are you trying toinstall grub manually ?12:35
Clqyno12:36
xMaverickGuys, if I remove the default kubuntu panel, my volume keys no longer work12:36
Clqyim trying to reinstall kubuntu12:36
Clqya clean install i am free to wipe everything12:36
BluesKajlet the installer do that, use the full disk mode so the installer runs thru the installation of the boot file (UEFI) etc automatically12:37
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Why are you disabling legacy mode? You did right to enable full boot but I believe that you have to enable legacy mode.  … Surely BluesKaj is more expert than me but I would try that12:38
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Because I had the same problem12:38
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> With my computer12:38
BluesKajnot legacy, uefi is best12:38
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I know that is the best12:39
Clqyi just tried the instqller qnd got this ubi-partman failed with exit code 10.12:39
BluesKajthere;s no disabling legacy , only enabling uefi on most systems12:39
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> But I had problems with UEFi mode because I had installed windows on UEFI like Clqy did12:39
Clqythe only way i can see how to enable uefi is to change the boot order12:40
BluesKajthat depenfd where/which partition or device  you are installing kubuntu to12:41
Clqyso...?12:46
Clqyi am starting my live boot through uefi application on my boot menu (when i press esc at startup) does that change anything?12:47
BluesKajif the windows installation is on the same disk and it's w8 ot above then it's automatically in uefi mode iirc12:48
Clqyi had windows 10 but its been formated now12:48
BluesKajClqy, do you still have windows installed ?12:49
Clqyno12:49
Clqyive formatted my hd through gparted to try start from scratch12:49
BluesKajok, then use the full disk option in  partitioning phase and you should be fine12:50
Clqybut its not12:50
BluesKajduring kubuntu install12:50
Clqyno it tellls me grub install error at sda or something like that12:51
BluesKajhow many partiitons on the disk?12:52
Clqysda1 sda2 and unallocated (1mb)12:52
BluesKajpartition the whole is into just one partition12:54
BluesKajext412:55
Clqyok but i cant unmount sda2 in gparted12:55
BluesKajare you using gparted on a usb stick ?12:56
BluesKajand what's on sda2?12:57
Clqyno, through the live boot on my external hd, i dont hqve q spqre usb stick12:57
Clqysda2 is ex4 /target12:57
Clqyits the new pqrtition the installer created for kubuntu before is closed with the error , there s nothing there and as far as i can tell there is nothing open12:58
BluesKajis there an OS on it or backup files?12:58
Clqyls gives me a list of a few folders ... bin cdrom etc lib lib4 lost and found etc12:59
R13ose10:40 AM <R13ose> Sometimes when I using Kubuntu, this will logout for no reason.  I don't know why.  How do I not logout?12:59
BluesKajjust expand/resize sda1 as an ext4 over the whole disk the try reinstalling kubuntu13:00
Clqyright click - resize:  all i can do is add 1MB its already marked as ex413:01
Clqydo i need to reboot before i try install or can i do it directly from here13:02
Clqythe install doesnt work, ill reboot and try again13:03
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Clqystill no dice...13:17
BluesKajClqy, have you tried using the "whole disk" with the installer?13:17
Clqyyes, guided whole disk13:17
mactheknifeHi, I installed bookworm successfully in ubuntu but it will not start, what needs to be done?13:18
IrcsomeBot<advocate_Serhii_Lysenko> Hi. Why my desktop dont upgrade on Kubuntu 20.04? It told that no new kubuntu13:18
BluesKajand maybe the image/OS isn't bootable13:18
BluesKajClqy,^13:18
Clqyi dont understand13:18
Clqyi used unetbootln to make the bootable external hd13:19
BluesKajunetbootln, is probly the problem, it fails to creaate a bootable image 50% of the time, even etcher does a better job13:21
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Clqy: try with Rufus13:23
Clqyhmm ok, so... i only have an external HD, which i accidently errased all my photos and videos when i made my unetbooln... i have a friend who s confident to recover them, but because of confineme,t i cant se ehim for another two weeks at least...13:24
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> or I don't know something else thank enetbootln13:24
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> oh I thought that yesterday you saved all your data13:24
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I am sorry to hear that you lost your data on the ext hdd13:25
Clqyi have 2 external hd.. i dont have any usb stick. the first hd is the live boot/files to recover the second is what i backed up from windows yesterday13:25
Clqycan i create another live boot with rufus next to my windows data?13:26
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> I would not try that13:26
mactheknifeIf you key in the terminal "bookworm" it says 'command not found'13:26
BluesKajClqy, my recommendation is to get a usb stick and copy the image to it using dd and make sure the target /dev/sdX is unmounted before using dd13:27
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> yes, try with a usb stick13:27
BluesKajClqy, you could try using dd from your outboard as well13:28
BluesKajbut if you need to revover files from the target disk then don't do anything13:29
BluesKajrecover13:29
Clqy dd from outboard, what does that mean13:38
BluesKaj!dd | Clqy13:44
BluesKaj!info dd | Clqy13:45
ubottuClqy: Package dd does not exist in focal13:45
BluesKajhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/144172/full-dd-copy-from-hdd-to-hdd13:46
IrcsomeBot<davidmills> kubuntu 20.04, does it worth the upgrade coming from the previosu lts?13:51
Clqythat seems complicated13:53
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BluesKajt won't work anyway, i'm not thinking properly14:11
Clqyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing under bios/gpt notes14:12
Guest40544I can't find the "Drivers" window in Kubuntu. I'm trying to install a different Wifi driver. Help me14:12
Clqyi think my problem is here somewhere14:13
Guest40544Ooops, nevermind. I found the Drivers window. It's in KDE settings.14:14
BluesKajGuest40544,kmenu>system settings>hardware>driver manager14:15
Clqycan i install grub manually somehow?14:16
Clqywhat exactly is my problem? i had kubuntu installed here a few days ago, it worked perfectly, When i started the pc it gave me a choice of ubuntu or windows14:18
Clqynow when i start it goes to a grub console14:18
masonbee-M1 <davidmills> I haven't noticed a lot of difference really. Probably the most painless upgrade ever.14:18
Clqyeven before i deleted kubuntu (to reinstall)14:18
masonbee-M1Clqy: Did you reinstall?14:19
Clqynot yet14:23
Clqyi cant14:23
masonbee-M1Can you boot from the usb to the live desktop?14:23
BluesKajyou need an iso image that's bootable, seems yours is corrupted14:24
Clqyi am currently booted into the hard disk14:24
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masonbee-M1But stuck in Grub?14:26
masonbee-M1Sorry if I am repeating others questions. Basically I am thinking if you can boot to you USB you can back up your system to an external before going any further so you don't lose anything.14:26
BluesKajClqy, then use the install you're booted into14:27
Clqyit doesnt work14:32
Clqythe grub error14:32
Clqy... if im loaded into it now can it still be corrupted?14:32
Clqymasonbee-M1:  ive got nothing to back up, Im here loaded into a live boot on my external hd, trying to install almost at the end it tells me it cant install grub onto sda1 or 2 i cant remember14:33
Clqyi dont know if im using efi or not, i suspect not14:34
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masonbee-M1Clqy: Should be trying to install to sda or sdb. That might be your problem. Grub is trying to install to the wrong disk.14:35
Clqyi selected guided full disk14:36
Clqysda is my internal hd  it says it cant install there14:37
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masonbee-M1Clqy: On this screen14:38
Clqyyes i select my internal hd at this point14:39
masonbee-M1And assuming it is definitely the internal hd and there is only one hd in the comp, did you update the installer before installing, remove the external drive after installing, and what is the exact error grub gives on non install?14:43
Clqydefinatly only one ihd ive got kubuntu 20.4 how can i remove the external drive after instal? i cant install..14:45
Clqythe errorr is Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda” when installing GRUB14:45
Clqyforce unmounted sda, reinitialised the installation and it gave me a new error  The ext4 file system creation in partition #2 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) failed.14:46
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> My time settings are changing automatically... any idea about that ?14:49
masonbee-M1Clqy: Can you go into bios and make sure the UEFI windows isn't still selected.....I had that on another comp where it wouldn't boot after install and what had happened was the UEFI settings for Windows were still there. Also disable fast boot if poss. What model is it?14:49
Clqymodel bios?14:50
masonbee-M1<Supun Wijesinghe> Are you dual booting. Windows resets time.14:50
masonbee-M1Clqy: No, model computer.14:51
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> @masonbee-M1> <Supun Wijesinghe, No.... only kubuntu...it’s changing when internet connection is not available14:52
Clqyi was dual booting, windows is gone now14:52
masonbee-M1Clqy: Sorry, I was talking to the other guy.14:53
Clqymodel number for computer? i have no idea14:53
Clqyhaha ok14:53
Clqyill go look at bios again14:56
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> Why its is automatically changing when connection is not available14:57
masonbee-M1Clqy: Also, if you can use your installation USB to boot to a desktop instead of installing (Choose Try Kubuntu instead of Install Kubuntu)  then it might be an idea to look at the harddrive sda (the one inside the laptop) and see if there is anything left on it with gparted (or partitionmanager possibly in Kubuntu)15:00
masonbee-M1<Supun Wijesinghe> If that is the problem then there is an explanation here. https://www.howtogeek.com/323390/how-to-fix-windows-and-linux-showing-different-times-when-dual-booting/15:02
masonbee-M1<Supun Wijesinghe> Sorry, I missed a comment. No idea. A flat bios battery would so it but so could something else.15:06
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> @masonbee-M1> <Supun Wijesinghe, I’m not dual booting...  I’m using kubuntu only15:06
IrcsomeBot<Supun Wijesinghe> @masonbee-M1> <Supun Wijesinghe, Ok   👌    🥺🥺🥺15:06
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Clqyok so definatly only legacy enable, full boot on, a clean hd, still no luck15:26
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Clgy, I may have missed everything you have tried, but have you tried a new partition table?15:30
Clqyyou mean through gparted?15:30
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If not, use partition manager to create a new gpt partition table.15:31
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> gparted or partitionmanager should both work.15:31
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Also, I would recommend switch back to UEFI, with secure boot disabled.15:33
Clqyhhaok15:33
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> UEFI booting is typically much faster.15:33
BluesKajClqy, if everything else is fine then you should look at your image/iso file as probly corrupted, like i mentione dearlier15:33
Clqyyeah i think it is... im just about to go get a usb.15:34
BluesKajClqy, definitely a good idea :-)15:34
Clqyrufus?15:35
ClqyDarinMiller: new gpt partition table?15:36
Clqyok yes15:36
Clqyi wont bother doing the partitions right? just go straight into install... should i reboot? or can i go back to install straight from here15:37
Clqypartition manager says: Create a new partition table (type: gpt) on ‘/dev/sda’: Error15:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> close partitionmanager and use gparted15:38
Clqywhy is my hd mounted when i live boot? i have to force unmount every time15:39
Clqyit said (and i coulndt copy paste it) something about not being able to inform the kernel15:41
Clqyso the old partitions will remain in use ...15:42
Clqyi can click ignore and it shozs me one big empty partition15:42
Clqyis my hard drive being used somewhere?15:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> partitionmanager is not able to handle corrupted partition tables, but gparted usually works.15:46
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> booting from the kubuntu iso, (assuming wifi) connect to the internet, then sudo apt install gparted16:01
Clqythats where i am now16:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> success creating new partition table with gparted?16:02
Clqyno it says partition(s) 2 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use. As a result, the old partition will remain in use. you should reboot now before making further changes16:04
Clqyi can cancel or ignore16:05
Clqyif i ignore it shows me one big empty partition, as if it worked16:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> very strange.16:06
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Would be useful to try to create a windows bootable pen and try to format from the installation program of windows?16:07
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> After that you could try to install linux with your live usb16:08
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Windows can sometimes tolerate a corrupted table that is not allowed by Linux install, so I don't think it will help.16:08
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> clgy, proceed with attempting to install to check if gparted actually succeeded.16:10
Clqyso the problem is i have a corrupted partition table?16:11
Clqyok reboot ill try again16:16
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Clqynope16:30
Clqyis this something test disk cqn fix?16:31
Clqyis it normal that my internal hd is mounted when i live boot?16:32
Clqywhenever i start the live boot (in the uefi application on the boot menu in bios) there is a message that verify briefly flashes on the screen... it says something like "/boot not found"16:35
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> clgy, how did you determine it is was mounted?16:51
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> it should not be mounted but if you use dolphin to navigate, the dolphin automounts during navigation.16:53
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Clqyi start to lose hope17:20
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Don't lose hope!17:20
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> For clarification, are you live booting with kubuntu 20.04?17:21
Clqyyes17:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> are you currently live booted?17:21
Clqyyes17:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Try creating a new partition table using the kde partitionmanager (not gparted).  If it succeeds, then we know the partition table is good.  If not, we will have to repair with slightly more advanced methods.17:23
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Clqyim live booted after the installation fail, i have yet to reboot17:24
Clqysda2 is mounted, i cant create table17:24
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> right click on sda2 and unmount.17:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> via partition manager....17:25
ClqyThe file system on partition /dev/sda2 could not be unmounted.17:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> wow, is anything open that could be blocking the unmount?17:26
Clqy?? ive done nothing, firefox? konversation, discover, terminal, partition manager17:26
Clqyumount: /target: target is busy.17:27
Clqyit mounts itsself to /target17:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> none of those should block sda2...17:28
Clqywifi antenna?17:29
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ?17:29
Clqyi dunno17:30
Clqyive seen force unmounting is possible,17:30
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am not convinced you have a bug free partition table, but have you tried skipping live boot and proceeding with install?  That should avoid the strange mounting issue you encounter.17:31
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> oh, then "use the force" :)17:31
Clqyyeah i do that every time17:33
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Refresh partition manager.  Does PM show all drives unmounted?17:34
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Hit f5 to refresh17:35
Clqyyes everything is unmounted17:36
Clqylsblk too17:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, now create a new partition table.17:36
Clqythere is a loop0 mounted at /rofs and my ex hd at /cdrom17:37
Clqyok done17:37
ClqyCreate new partition table on device ‘/dev/sda’: Error17:37
ClqyCreate a new partition table (type: gpt) on ‘/dev/sda’: Error17:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, no error?17:37
Clqyit refreshes back to everything unmounted17:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> try again with gparted and if that fails, we dive deeper...17:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If you rebooted, re-install gparted....17:39
Clqyim still going for gpt right§17:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes, use gpt17:40
Clqyit says the partitions have been written but cant inform the kernel....17:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> As long as UEFI is enabled in the BIOS, gpt should worlk17:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> same as before... ok... just a sec.17:41
Clqyive changed so many things back and forth i dont remember anymore... if uefi is enabled17:42
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I feel your pain....17:42
Clqyi believe it is... but i cant be certain17:43
Clqycn i verify from konsole without rebooting?17:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I think so, just sec17:45
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ls /sys/firmware/efi17:46
johndripperhello17:50
johndripperwhatsup17:50
Clqyyou,ll have to talk to me like i dont understand anything17:50
johndripperi need some help17:50
johndripperwhenever i login my kubuntu logo is displayed very big17:51
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> clgy, try running boot repair as p[er this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair17:51
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> let me know if I can clarify anything.17:51
johndripperit is happening after i installed nvidia driver17:51
johndripperok i will try17:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @johndripper, In system settings -> Font  force dpi to 9617:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> johndripper the bootrepair message was not for you.17:52
johndripperok17:53
ClqyPlease create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again.17:56
Clqythat was the output frm  boot repair, i didnt touch the advanced settings17:56
Clqyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HY44kbVM9r17:58
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If boot repair worked, then partition manager should now work to create a new table.17:58
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The install process will create a boot partition.18:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @johndripper, Did you find the force dpi option?18:01
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If so, log out, log in to enable (or restart plasmashell —replace)18:02
Clqypartition manager still has the same problem18:03
ClqyCreate a new partition table (type: gpt) on ‘/dev/sda’: Error18:03
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> clgy, I am concerned about your second drive /dev/sdb (Unknown MBR on /dev/sdb).  You may want to try unplugging it until after install to reduce the variables...18:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> what was the output of: ls /sys/firmware/efi18:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> that command reveals if you booted in to efi mode.18:06
Clqyls /sys/firmware/efi18:06
Clqyconfig_table  efivars  fw_platform_size  fw_vendor  runtime  runtime-map  systab  vars18:06
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yep, efi18:07
Clqysbd is my ex hd18:07
Clqyfrom which i live boot18:07
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> oh, duh I see the squashfs now....18:08
johndripperi tried "force font dpi" to '96' in "system setting" but it didnt fix my issue: https://imgur.com/undefined ubuntu logo is still big and looks ugly it happened after i installed nvidia propreitary driver is there a fix or should i use open source driver18:09
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Will partition manager allow you to delete the /sdax partitions?18:09
amroi am new here i've used MIRC long time ago more than 20 years can any one tell me how to add servers and rooms18:09
johndripperthe scrrenshot https://imgur.com/XLXUJ9E18:10
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @amro, This is the kubuntu support channel, not sure which channel is best for your question.18:12
Clqypartition manager only shows me 500G of unallocated space at sda18:12
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @johndripper, Do you see sizing issues anywhere else?  I am not sure how to fix the blurry boot logo.18:13
johndripper@darinmiller everything is fine except the blurry logo18:13
amroi am a linux user and a computer programmer i used mirc 20 years ago i am 39 years now and i cancelled all my social media accounts and i am asking if i can add servers and channels and find good people18:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @Clqy, After reviewing the advance options on boot repair, I realized that tool does not fix broken partition tables.  I apologize for the wasted time.  Let try this option: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119259818:22
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> wait no.  We need something like that, but that's not exactly correct either...18:24
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> This like should do it: https://www.axllent.org/docs/view/erase-your-mbr/18:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Once erased, partitionmanager should work to create a new table.18:29
Clqyok partition manager says theres no partition table on this device18:31
Clqybut when i try to create one it has the same error18:31
Clqygparted gives the same error too; couldnt inform kernel18:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> This is the most stubborn HD i have ever seen! Try gparted ...18:32
Clqyi can get a usb now, do u think itll help18:34
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Not sure what you mean?18:35
Clqyi can get a new usb, my firned down the road is home i can create a new bootqble usb18:35
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> try creating partition table from the command line using these instructions: https://www.crucial.com.au/blog/2009/11/18/how-to-create-a-new-partition-on-a-linux-server/18:36
Clqythat way i can unplug the external hd18:36
ClqyPartition #1 contains a vfat signature., do i remove it or not?18:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> you can remove it18:40
ClqyCommand (m for help): w18:40
ClqyThe partition table has been altered.18:40
ClqyFailed to add partition 1 to system: Device or resource busy18:40
ClqyThe kernel still uses the old partitions. The new table will be used at the next reboot.18:40
ClqySyncing disks.18:40
Clqyill reboot? try install again? ill go get the usb, because its getting dark and itll be too late soon; then ill come back18:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, sure try the reboot.18:42
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clqydidnt work, cant install grub at sda19:01
clqyi do however have a different usb to try in my possesion19:01
clqyif you think thatll help19:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> It won't hurt to try but I suspect you HD is the issue.19:02
clqyok so next step?19:04
clqytry the other usb?19:04
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Did you attempt to create new partition table after restart?19:04
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Until that is complete, we cannot proceed.19:04
clqyi thought i did that, now ive lost all the links etc... can you copy paste the laast website you linked19:05
clqyi tried to install after the reboot...19:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> first try partitionmanager19:06
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If that fails try gparted (sudo apt install gparted)19:07
clqyive got fat32 mounted at sda1 and exfat at 219:07
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> is that your live boot drive?19:08
clqynope19:08
clqyits my internal hd19:09
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> did you create an exfat partition during the last install attempt?  This is so confusing when I only see a portion of what happens at the other end.19:10
clqyno i did guided full disk19:10
clqybut i dont think the installer created thses, i think this is what i had before with windows19:10
clqyor maybe from another instance when i tired something yesterday19:11
clqytried19:11
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clqyI didnt try to create a new partition table qfer deleting in the command line, insteqd i tried to install19:13
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> the fact that these automount from a live session and survive after partition table wipe makes no sense.19:13
clqythe table wipe in command line gave an error like gparted, cqnt remember what it said but something like failed to write so the old partition will remain need to reboot19:14
clqythe table wipe that i just did in command line gave an error like gparted, I cant remember what it said but something like "failed to write, so the old partition will remain, need to reboot"19:15
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> oh!  OK. unmount all partitions and rerun dd command19:16
clqyok can you paste the website instructions again, ive lost all19:16
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> https://www.axllent.org/docs/view/erase-your-mbr/19:16
clqyto be cleqr i am doing the second option?? format mbr and partition tqble19:17
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I would paste the command here, but I don't want some new person stumbling in on the conversation and running it at random.19:17
clqyha understanable19:17
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The 2nd one.19:18
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> bs=51219:18
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> that may require sudo...19:19
clqyok seems to have worked f5 on partition manager shows nothing19:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> thats progress.  Now try creating partition table.19:19
clqygpt correct?19:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yesa19:20
clqypartitions 2 hqve been written but we have been unable to inform the kernel because it/they are in use19:21
clqyas a result old partition will remain in use, you should reboot now before making further changes19:21
clqyso... reboot, dont install, come back here and try write a new table?19:22
clqyis there an automount option somewhere that can be disabled?19:22
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> select sda and see if you can create a partition.  If not, then restart.19:22
clqyand apply?19:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes19:25
clqyit gave me the same error, wont write to kernel need to restart, but it appears in the gui19:26
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> OK, restart.19:26
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> wow, the pain continues.19:26
clqyrestart and dont install right ?19:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I think we solved the partition table issue with the last dd command.  So install should work.  But if the partition table was not created, then we may need to start with that.19:28
clqyso try the install?19:29
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> not until after restart19:29
clqyyes ok19:29
clqyciao19:29
amrocan anyone talk to me on private i need help19:38
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Clqy parli italiano? Non lo avevo capito :p19:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> What kind of help?19:39
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> clqy: Non demordere19:40
amroi need to know how to add channels and servers i've used mirc since 20 years and i've returned back cause i cancelled all my social accounts19:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Sorry, I have no knowledge of channel management.19:42
amroi am linux user and i am a programmer i am 3919:42
clqynope19:43
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> What do you mean by adding channels? Do the command /join work?19:43
amroanyway thanks for your reply ircsomebot19:43
clqyive got fat32 and ext419:44
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> After install?19:45
amroi mean other channels .... you're on #kubuntu i need other places like countries and ther feilds19:45
clqyinstall didnt get past grud install19:46
clqygrub19:46
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> installer crash?19:47
amroyou can get the new grub after upgrading the kernel19:47
amrojust upgrade the kernel19:47
clqyyes it  gave me the same error19:47
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> but partition manager shows a fat32 and ext4 partition19:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ?19:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> If so, then re-try running: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair19:48
clqyyes19:49
amrouse gparted its the best partioning tool19:49
amroand after installing gparted install gpart with it19:50
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> amro: so you mean that you want to join for example another channel like #kubuntu-offtopic?19:51
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Or do you want to see a list.of the channels on your network?19:51
amroyes19:52
amroexample # usa # uk and all19:52
clqy"/target detected. Please reboot and try again from a new live session."19:53
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> amro: try /list19:53
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> If you want to enter another channel /join (channel name)19:53
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> (#channelname)19:54
amro#usa19:56
johndripperi hv a question is installing wine from apt enough to run most windows apps?19:58
amrothanks it worked20:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> wine from the repos will run quite a few apps.  But is you want bleeding edge performance or best compatibility, then I recommend wine-staging (winehq.org) or lutris.20:00
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> amro: np20:01
johndripperthanks i visited the site20:01
amrono20:01
johndripperthen read on another site it said to install it from repo20:01
johndripperlol20:01
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu20:01
johndripperi tried installing potplayer it failed20:01
clqyshould i try the new usb then?20:02
amroyou must install with wine wine tricks and netframework and direct x20:02
johndripper@darianmiller so i should uninstall my prev wine install from repo as it is said in https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu right20:03
amroand install stable wine and it depents on what app you're going to use20:03
johndripperi want to install potplayer20:03
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @clqy, Sorry, i missed your previous post. Yes, try from a new usb.20:04
clqyrufus?20:04
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I reccomend https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy20:06
amro#IRCnet20:06
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @johndripper, As per the wine appdb, 64b wine does not play well with potplayer. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1489020:07
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Thus, I would try wine-staging20:07
amro#Undernet20:09
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Please move channel discussion to kubuntu-offtopic or PM.20:09
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> maybe he forgot to use /join20:10
johndripper@darinmiller thanksman20:11
viewer|30Hello20:18
viewer|22Hello20:20
clqyi havent got the knowledge of using scripts, id like to know more about linux command lines etc, but ive been flooded these last few days, point and click is sounding ood, so i used the native disk creator; thatll do right?20:23
clqyok its written. time to reboot for the 543rd time today ...20:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> lol :)20:36
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> clqy: ¢_¢ sorry for you mate20:42
Clqyo so the new usb worked20:45
Clqycan i assume that everything is in order and like new now? all the stuffing about ive done is back to 020:46
Clqyand it was a corrupt image on the external hd was the problem§20:46
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Wow that's nice20:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> So the install worked with the new USB?20:55
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> I saw that Ubuntu has a 'right click to launch application using dedicated graphics'  is this something that is gnome specific, or something that can/will come to kde?20:55
Clqyyes it worked20:56
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> YES!20:57
masonbee-M1OMG, congratulations!!!!20:58
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @ZendrilSeven, I have not heard right click launch dedicated graphics for kde, but you can manually use __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia20:59
Clqyyeah no kidding im so relieved... thanks for your helps120:59
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> in front of the app name or set it in the launcher, i.e. __NV_PRIME_RENDER_OFFLOAD=1 __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME=nvidia  steam20:59
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> @DarinMiller, thanks for the tip.. I heard someone mention there is a CLI workaround but didn't research it yet..20:59
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @Clqy, You are very welcome!20:59
IrcsomeBot<Franzpow> Clqy: so happy you've done it!21:01
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> I just recently even switched over to enabling nvidia drivers because when I first installed the system a year or so ago.. it would *never* disable the nvidia card even though you told it to run intel..  going to see if that is now better with the latest drivers..21:01
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> and being on a laptop that just ate the battery to death..21:01
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Ensure to set the NVidia profile to NVidia on demand.21:03
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ^in NVidia-settings.21:03
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Also, someone had hybrid issues with stock 20.04 drivers and solved it using the NVidia ppa: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa21:05
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> Thanks!21:20
IrcsomeBot<ZendrilSeven> will definitely check it out shortly21:20
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amrohey guys if anyone needs help with linux feel free to txt me22:00
amroi am 19 years experienced22:01
amroand looking for cool and good friends22:02
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CodeAmroi am playing ps1 games on HD with with XBRZ4 and the graphics looks amazing22:07
CodeAmrosounds this place is dead and i am talking to myself22:10
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I'm listening :)22:35
clay_hi ive got a much simpler question than last time i was here... my X key only does captial Xs i cant do small ones... it seems to be the only key effected, if i log out and in itll work for about 15 minutes then cease to work23:08
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> try another keyboard? :)23:22
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IrcsomeBot<Anarchotaoist> I have re-installed Kubuntu, but KDEconnect cannot see my other Kubuntu machine anymore -and vice versa! ?? It does see all the android devices on the network though! What can I troubleshoot?23:52

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