=== jeff_ is now known as supernovajm === dax is now known as housecat [02:21] Check this release noted regarding certified oem https://ubuntu.com/blog/whats-new-in-ubuntu-desktop-20-04-lts [02:22] Tier-1 OEM support … Ubuntu is used extensively throughout the enterprise, government, public sectors and education. To meet the demand for pre-loaded hardware from these areas, Canonical is committed to working closely with Dell, HP and Lenovo. Here are some examples of the work we do for our OEM partners that adds value to all users of Linux on the desktop. … Starting with Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 LTS, it is now possible to obtai [02:22] certified device experience by installing the general release of Ubuntu. When installed on certified hardware, the device-specific enablement will be automatically installed and configured; just as it would be in the preloaded factory images. [02:23] I want to know if Kubuntu will include this new enablement feature or if I have to use stock Ubuntu [02:29] dota2 [02:29] xiaoshuo [02:30] como dedis [02:38] Loving Kubuntu 20.04 so far! [02:40] ditto :) === anne is now known as Guest39220 [03:04] @ace_player I think not; that is for paid Canonical customers I believe [03:04] No it’s for anyone who had a certified device [03:05] Has* [03:05] well, the Kubuntu Focus machine is pre-loaded with Kubuntu [03:06] you could ask them, I guess: https://kfocus.org/ [03:07] https://kde.org/hardware has some more, like Zareason [03:07] I don't have a clue whether they are an "oem partner" or not [03:11] I don’t think they are [03:15] It’s possible this is part of the Ubuntu base as it’s related to firmware config and power management. But I don’t know if it’s only enabled in stock such as the Zfs snapshots === tanghus-M1 is now known as tanghus-M2 === tanghus-M2 is now known as tanghus-4 === tanghus-4 is now known as tanghus-6 === tanghus-6 is now known as tanghus-8 === tanghus-8 is now known as tanghus10 === Shesh is now known as Jame [04:32] hello === tanghus10 is now known as tanghus12 [04:46] Sup [04:59] learning KDE :) [05:00] learning Plasma, or all our software and people? [05:00] :-) [05:02] hello valorie [05:02] nice to see you agin [05:02] hi again [05:02] I am really enjoy my shift to Kubuntu [05:02] enjoying your new install? [05:02] oh, good [05:02] yes yes [05:02] :) [05:03] Even Konversation is awesome, easy to use [05:03] I had nothing of this sort before [05:03] yes, it's completely awesome [05:03] before, I had only used mIRC [05:04] Konvi completely won me over and let me leave all Win software behind [05:04] it was awhile after that I found the KDE community [05:04] :) [05:05] IRC is good. When you have an app like Konversation [05:05] I have tried KDE a couple of years back [05:05] Someone told me it is like Windows [05:06] But it had too much grey in Windows when I tried [05:06] But now, it is really polished [05:06] I think some new version of qt, right ? [05:09] KDE is a community [05:09] qt keeps upgrading, true [05:09] Like Gnome ? [05:09] and so do we [05:09] sorry, didn [05:10] didn't follow* [05:10] gnome uses gtk, which is an entirely different toolkit [05:10] Qt is different from KDE ? [05:10] yes [05:10] it's a toolkit we use [05:10] others use it as well [05:10] even Microsoft [05:10] :-) [05:10] I see [05:10] works on phones, in cars, etc. [05:11] I am only good things to say about default appearence in Kubuntu [05:11] phone and cars !! [05:11] awesome [05:11] GTK was a cool toolkit made by Gnome, it is very cool but only works properly in some linux distros [05:11] and most KDE software runs everywhere too [05:11] QT is other case, it works basically everywhere [05:11] yep [05:11] You know telegram? [05:11] pure qt [05:11] yup [05:11] Is it ? [05:12] yup [05:12] +1 [05:12] well, it's a toolkit [05:12] telegram = qt + custom protocol [05:12] so not *just* Qt [05:12] yeah [05:12] I see [05:12] I have never seen anything in default Linux this beautiful [05:12] i really like both QT and GTK, but gtk has very very bad design choices [05:12] there are lots of Qt apps around that are not made by KDE [05:13] KDE is just freaking awesome [05:13] we are! [05:13] got it :) [05:13] yes [05:13] kde is a community, is not a specific company, i mean, is a company made by a lot of people around the world [05:13] on TV as well ? Is that you people ? [05:13] you can be part too [05:13] sure, I will try [05:14] i mean, just by using kde, you are part of the kde project [05:14] there is a new TV project called Big Screen, I think [05:14] using kde software [05:14] +1 [05:14] we the community aren't used [05:14] lol [05:15] https://dot.kde.org/2020/03/26/plasma-tv-presenting-plasma-bigscreen [05:15] it's brand new [05:15] have not tried it [05:16] kde is great because it works great in trash computers like mine lol [05:17] kde *software* [05:17] yes [05:17] i mean, plasma [05:17] I don't work in your computer [05:17] right [05:17] :-) [05:22] what is the difference between Plasma and Neon [05:22] I use Kubuntu 20.04, so I am using KDE Plasma, right ? [05:23] sorry, was afk [05:24] yes [05:25] neon is another project run by friends of ourse [05:25] ours [05:25] it is based on Ubuntu LTS base with the very latest KDE software [05:25] yup [05:25] latest plasma, latest apps [05:25] neon is pretty good actually [05:26] right now they are working on getting 20.04 working for them [05:26] Kubuntu: Keep it stable! … Neon: Keep it updated! [05:26] we try to keep it stable and updated [05:26] if possible [05:26] I see [05:27] especially if you add the backports PPA [05:27] which I do [05:27] we all work together [05:27] who uses Neon ? [05:27] great +1 [05:27] some of the neon team used to be in Kubuntu [05:27] Jame: many kde devels do [05:28] oh [05:28] but many people do [05:28] esp. if the older base is better for their machines [05:28] I see [05:29] which is the support forum for Kubuntu [05:29] official [05:31] I want to say something, when the app icon is hung by the cursor, there is a burr -ed black border around the app icon [05:32] there is kubuntuforum and forum.kde.org -- both in the topic [05:32] thanks [05:33] Kubuntu 20.04 , KDEConnect not working, it not display any devices in network and cannot connect to other. [05:34] 1. Installed app 2. Both PC and phone in same network ? [05:35] hmmm, might be a mismatch between the versions [05:36] mine's working [05:44] Ubuntu 20.4 has a broke installer. Tried abut 3 to 4 times with iso re-download [05:46] this is #kubuntu -- we have no reports of our installer being broken [05:46] did you mean Kubuntu installer? [05:46] @valorie, Yeah both kubuntu and ubuntu [05:46] doesn't mean that it couldn't be.... [05:47] at what point did it "break"? [05:47] did you file a bug about it? [05:47] it's called ubiquity btw [05:48] and I bet half the bug reports I've filed are against ubiquity [05:49] if you are going to file, it's best to drop to a terminal when it crashes [05:49] and type ubuntu-bug ubiquity [05:50] and just answer the questions [06:12] How to edit/remove software entries from application launcher (kickoff menu) [06:20] anyone noticed a recent update causing mouse click weirdness? [06:22] Dante_44 was added by: Dante_44 [06:25] Hi there, Iam new here. Plz adv - can i upgrade kubuntu 19.10 to 20.04? Or do i need to perform a clean install [06:28] Good morning [06:41] it's like a de-bounce bug on mouse clicks [06:42] i think it's mistaking clicks for click+drags or something [06:43] i have my mouse drag time set to 1000ms but it's still happening. seems to be somewhere in the desktop manager as it's impacting plasma panel and other programs like konversation [06:51] updating webkit seems to have improved the issue mostly === TheMetamorphosis is now known as Metamorphosis [07:33] rebecca I lost 3 rounds of openRA game because of the same weird mouse activity. [07:57] @valorie, @Dante_44 [09:22] hi...I'm having a huge problem with my network. a while after connecting, I lose ipv4. only have ipv6. reconnecting won't help. any idea what is going on? [09:36] Kubuntu installer booted yet after checking disk it didn't even load just hanged up in boot logo === Shesh is now known as Jame [09:43] hi [09:59] On initial boot there is an option for start in Safe Graphics mode. Have you tried that? [10:24] @masonbee-M1> 'Morning all === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life === kubuntu is now known as Guest939 === Guest939 is now known as Clqy [11:33] Hello kind people. Has anyone else had this problem in 20.04? (upgraded from 19.10) My wallpapers are sometimes on the opposite monitor but my displays still show that they are in the right position. What's even more annoying is the plasma taskbars only show applications that are on the opposite display instead of the display that the taskbar is [11:33] on. Yesterday I rebooted and it fixed itself, but today the problem is back. I tried moving the panel to the other display, but it still only displays applications on the opposite monitor from the taskbar. I also tried recreating the panel (no effect) and unchecking then checking "show only tasks from the current screen" (no effect). [11:33] Hi, Im trying to install from a live boot and i get the error, unable to install grub to /dev/sda [11:34] Hi Clqy, did you Succeded to format the hdd? [11:35] well ive got everything backed up to an external hd [11:35] q different one from the live boot [11:36] I understand, I meant the internal hdd of your pc [11:36] when i format through gparted im not sure exqctly what to do; ive tried many things. i cant complete the install process [11:36] You have to format and you can create a filesystem ext4 [11:40] there is currently two partition sda1 and 2 1 is efi 2 is ex4 mounted at target?? and there is 1mb of unallocated space after [11:44] That's all right! [11:44] Efi partition is a system partition [11:44] Just try to install kubuntu now [11:44] does sda2 need a grub flag or something like that§ [11:44] In the installation process? [11:45] i have tried and just near the end it gives me an error unable to install grub to sda [11:45] What do you mean by grub flag? If you do guided installation you should not worry about that [11:45] yes in the installation app [11:45] Mmmm i don't know, maybe you need to set the bios es efi mode [11:45] the installation doesnt work, i try to figure out if i can change something to make it work [11:45] I had the same problem because I had the UEFI mode enabled [11:45] Had to change it from the BIOS [11:46] Try to change this setting in the BIOS , switch to Legacy mode and not UEFI mode [11:46] I had the exact same problem last time with a pc where I had installed Windows with UEFI mode [11:46] ok ill see if i can figure that out [11:47] maje sure fast boot and secure boot are disabled in the BIOS if you are using UEFI boot [11:47] make sure [11:47] i havent been able to locate these setting before [11:49] would that be the boot order tab and disable uefi? [11:50] i mean disable the legacy [11:50] ill be back === TheMetamorphosis is now known as Metamorphosis [11:53] BluesKaj: I am no expert but I failed as well to install 20.04 with both secure boot as fast boot disabled. Using EFI just saved me. [11:59] yes, UEFI is best accoeding to the devs [11:59] according to [12:00] How can I get kubuntu to ask me for confirmation before sending a file to the trash? i just moved to kubuntu 20. === kubuntu_ is now known as Clqy [12:07] ok so the installation hasnt worked... im not sure i changed bios settings properly [12:08] theres no obvious fastboot or secure boot to change that i could see [12:08] or even to change from legacy to efi, [12:08] Am I wrong or legacy and EFI are the same thing? [12:09] Legacy means the old BIOS, The other option is UEFI [12:11] where do i change this§ [12:11] jandri555, dolphin>settings>configure dolphin>general [12:12] Thanks :) [12:12] Clqy: in the BIOS settings [12:12] When you start your pc [12:12] I don't know that motherboard you have [12:12] What* [12:13] ok ill just go have another look [12:14] Julien was added by: Julien [12:24] @da_ni_el, Okay Rufus worked [12:25] No more checkfile error [12:29] (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3PKaXty8/file_28583.jpg === kubuntu is now known as Clqy [12:32] ok is there another way to do this? in bios there is no secure boot option to change.... there is something to change quickboot to fullboot, i did that and disabled all legacy boot options and re ran the installation proccess, same error... cant install grub to sda [12:35] Clqy, are you trying toinstall grub manually ? [12:36] no [12:36] Guys, if I remove the default kubuntu panel, my volume keys no longer work [12:36] im trying to reinstall kubuntu [12:36] a clean install i am free to wipe everything [12:37] let the installer do that, use the full disk mode so the installer runs thru the installation of the boot file (UEFI) etc automatically [12:38] Why are you disabling legacy mode? You did right to enable full boot but I believe that you have to enable legacy mode. … Surely BluesKaj is more expert than me but I would try that [12:38] Because I had the same problem [12:38] With my computer [12:38] not legacy, uefi is best [12:39] I know that is the best [12:39] i just tried the instqller qnd got this ubi-partman failed with exit code 10. [12:39] there;s no disabling legacy , only enabling uefi on most systems [12:39] But I had problems with UEFi mode because I had installed windows on UEFI like Clqy did [12:40] the only way i can see how to enable uefi is to change the boot order [12:41] that depenfd where/which partition or device you are installing kubuntu to [12:46] so...? [12:47] i am starting my live boot through uefi application on my boot menu (when i press esc at startup) does that change anything? [12:48] if the windows installation is on the same disk and it's w8 ot above then it's automatically in uefi mode iirc [12:48] i had windows 10 but its been formated now [12:49] Clqy, do you still have windows installed ? [12:49] no [12:49] ive formatted my hd through gparted to try start from scratch [12:50] ok, then use the full disk option in partitioning phase and you should be fine [12:50] but its not [12:50] during kubuntu install [12:51] no it tellls me grub install error at sda or something like that [12:52] how many partiitons on the disk? [12:52] sda1 sda2 and unallocated (1mb) [12:54] partition the whole is into just one partition [12:55] ext4 [12:55] ok but i cant unmount sda2 in gparted [12:56] are you using gparted on a usb stick ? [12:57] and what's on sda2? [12:57] no, through the live boot on my external hd, i dont hqve q spqre usb stick [12:57] sda2 is ex4 /target [12:58] its the new pqrtition the installer created for kubuntu before is closed with the error , there s nothing there and as far as i can tell there is nothing open [12:58] is there an OS on it or backup files? [12:59] ls gives me a list of a few folders ... bin cdrom etc lib lib4 lost and found etc [12:59] 10:40 AM Sometimes when I using Kubuntu, this will logout for no reason. I don't know why. How do I not logout? [13:00] just expand/resize sda1 as an ext4 over the whole disk the try reinstalling kubuntu [13:01] right click - resize: all i can do is add 1MB its already marked as ex4 [13:02] do i need to reboot before i try install or can i do it directly from here [13:03] the install doesnt work, ill reboot and try again === kubuntu is now known as Clqy [13:17] still no dice... [13:17] Clqy, have you tried using the "whole disk" with the installer? [13:17] yes, guided whole disk [13:18] Hi, I installed bookworm successfully in ubuntu but it will not start, what needs to be done? [13:18] Hi. Why my desktop dont upgrade on Kubuntu 20.04? It told that no new kubuntu [13:18] and maybe the image/OS isn't bootable [13:18] Clqy,^ [13:18] i dont understand [13:19] i used unetbootln to make the bootable external hd [13:21] unetbootln, is probly the problem, it fails to creaate a bootable image 50% of the time, even etcher does a better job [13:23] Clqy: try with Rufus [13:24] hmm ok, so... i only have an external HD, which i accidently errased all my photos and videos when i made my unetbooln... i have a friend who s confident to recover them, but because of confineme,t i cant se ehim for another two weeks at least... [13:24] or I don't know something else thank enetbootln [13:24] oh I thought that yesterday you saved all your data [13:25] I am sorry to hear that you lost your data on the ext hdd [13:25] i have 2 external hd.. i dont have any usb stick. the first hd is the live boot/files to recover the second is what i backed up from windows yesterday [13:26] can i create another live boot with rufus next to my windows data? [13:26] I would not try that [13:26] If you key in the terminal "bookworm" it says 'command not found' [13:27] Clqy, my recommendation is to get a usb stick and copy the image to it using dd and make sure the target /dev/sdX is unmounted before using dd [13:27] yes, try with a usb stick [13:28] Clqy, you could try using dd from your outboard as well [13:29] but if you need to revover files from the target disk then don't do anything [13:29] recover [13:38] dd from outboard, what does that mean [13:44] !dd | Clqy [13:45] !info dd | Clqy [13:45] Clqy: Package dd does not exist in focal [13:46] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/144172/full-dd-copy-from-hdd-to-hdd [13:51] kubuntu 20.04, does it worth the upgrade coming from the previosu lts? [13:53] that seems complicated === dell is now known as Guest40544 [14:11] t won't work anyway, i'm not thinking properly [14:12] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing under bios/gpt notes [14:12] I can't find the "Drivers" window in Kubuntu. I'm trying to install a different Wifi driver. Help me [14:13] i think my problem is here somewhere [14:14] Ooops, nevermind. I found the Drivers window. It's in KDE settings. [14:15] Guest40544,kmenu>system settings>hardware>driver manager [14:16] can i install grub manually somehow? [14:18] what exactly is my problem? i had kubuntu installed here a few days ago, it worked perfectly, When i started the pc it gave me a choice of ubuntu or windows [14:18] now when i start it goes to a grub console [14:18] I haven't noticed a lot of difference really. Probably the most painless upgrade ever. [14:18] even before i deleted kubuntu (to reinstall) [14:19] Clqy: Did you reinstall? [14:23] not yet [14:23] i cant [14:23] Can you boot from the usb to the live desktop? [14:24] you need an iso image that's bootable, seems yours is corrupted [14:24] i am currently booted into the hard disk === rick is now known as Guest83641 [14:26] But stuck in Grub? [14:26] Sorry if I am repeating others questions. Basically I am thinking if you can boot to you USB you can back up your system to an external before going any further so you don't lose anything. [14:27] Clqy, then use the install you're booted into [14:32] it doesnt work [14:32] the grub error [14:32] ... if im loaded into it now can it still be corrupted? [14:33] masonbee-M1: ive got nothing to back up, Im here loaded into a live boot on my external hd, trying to install almost at the end it tells me it cant install grub onto sda1 or 2 i cant remember [14:34] i dont know if im using efi or not, i suspect not === _sunn_ is now known as sunn [14:35] Clqy: Should be trying to install to sda or sdb. That might be your problem. Grub is trying to install to the wrong disk. [14:36] i selected guided full disk [14:37] sda is my internal hd it says it cant install there [14:38] * masonbee-M1 uploaded an image: VirtualBox_Kubuntu Info_24_04_2020_17_16_12.png (365KB) < https://kde.modular.im/_matrix/media/r0/download/kde.org/AoYREJqsUXahYpAuNIcfSHsW > [14:38]