[02:32] <jphilips> Have others notice unknown 'Volume' entry on their desktops? Someone on twitter had mentioned it and when i was trying 18.04 in a VM, i did notice them appear on the desktop as well
[02:33] <jphilips> i went into desktop properties and disabled the 'removable devices' tree entry and they still stayed
[02:33] <jphilips> https://imgur.com/GpSJ7BP.png
[02:35] <jphilips> one of the two 'Volume' entries appeared after i installed gparted from the terminal
[02:36] <jphilips> there is no means to mount them and not sure how to find what they are
[03:34] <jphilips> bluesabre: looking at the release notes page, another thing you should add to your list which we previously discussed was the alternative window managers for the VNC problem
[03:36] <Unit193> I use xfwm4 and vnc, no issues.
[03:36] <jphilips> with tightvncserver
[03:37] <jphilips> this was in the known issues "Window decorations are not displayed with tightvncserver. Users depending on VNC are advised to wait until 20.04.1 or use an alternative window manager for VNC until this is resolved."
[03:37] <Unit193> Ah, I use x11vnc.
[04:37] <jphilips> Unit193: trying to write a sentence to differentiate the regular version from core, so what would you call the regular edition? Xubuntu Desktop, Xubuntu Full, Xubuntu Default
[04:41] <Unit193> 'Xubuntu' technically would even do, but I'd say that or desktop.
[04:53] <jphilips> how does this sound
[04:53] <jphilips> Xubuntu comes in two editions - Xubuntu Desktop and Xubuntu Core. Xubuntu Desktop is the primary edition targeting the regular user and comes fully featured with all the needed software, including apps like a browser, email client, chat client, text editor, office suite, media player, and graphical package manager. While Xubuntu Core is a slimmed down edition with none of these apps and fewer plugins and libraries, making it a smaller download, 
[04:53] <jphilips> lighter on resources and a cleaner base to create your own custom OS.
[04:56] <jphilips> i was trying ubuntu core and clicking on 'browse network' in thunar doesnt work, is that intended?
[04:57] <Unit193> Are gvfs-fuse and gvfs-backends installed?
[04:58] <jphilips> just running off the live session
[04:58] <jphilips> i closed the VM already
[04:58] <Unit193> I'd have to re-check the manifest.
[06:07] <jphilips> is this something we should consider doing, to better know our users - https://draugeros.org/go/2020/04/20/hardware-and-installation-reporting/
[08:53] <jphilips> Unit193: ^
[08:58] <Unit193> Sounds a little outside scope.
[09:09] <Unit193> Though sure, conceptually speaking opt-in stats can be interesting.
[09:13] <jphilips> even ubuntu is doing opt-in stats on first run
[09:41] <brainwash> jphilips: those mysterious Volumes are the mount points for individual snap packages I think
[09:41] <jphilips> brainwash: not sure how snap mounts would appear for an installation of gparted
[09:42] <jphilips> or is that part of apt process to mess with snaps
[09:42] <jphilips> i first one i believe appeared when i was installing the opera .deb file through gnome software
[09:43] <jphilips> the* first one
[09:47] <brainwash> then it's something different
[09:48] <jphilips> any thoughts on how to track what it is down
[09:48] <brainwash> in the case which I described they would be labeled "4.1KB Volume"
[09:48] <Unit193> What's `mount` say?
[09:48] <jphilips> wouldnt allow me to mount it
[09:49] <jphilips> i checked gnome disks and they weren't appearing there
[11:13] <jphilips> they do disappear after restarting
[11:14] <knome> bluesabre, right, yes, that's already in the new theme :P