[20:54] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Honestly. ~/.lv2 would be the way to go.
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> Unrelated:
[20:54] <Eickmeyer> I'm starting the movement to Plasma right now for the seed.
[20:55] <Eickmeyer> I'll be removing the desktop-core metapackage as it's just redundant now.
[21:05] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: For most people (single user does audio) ~/.lv2 would be easiest and best. No sudo needed. The expectation of a "package" by many people is that it will work with any user. So 6 of one half dozen of the other...
[21:06] <Eickmeyer> In the case of snaps and flatpaks, they're made so that they can be installed to only the current user, not system-wide.
[21:06] <OvenWerks> Which desktop package from kubuntu will you start with? The minimum or the full?
[21:06] <OvenWerks> I did not know that
[21:07] <OvenWerks> I don't see anything in the full I would not want... though I have not looked closely
[21:07] <Eickmeyer> So, the way it works is that everything is in the "desktop" seed. minimal is derived from that using a "remove" in germinate.
[21:07] <Eickmeyer> I don't see any reason to use "full".
[21:08] <OvenWerks> Ah so it is the same seed anyway
[21:09] <OvenWerks> Wat do they remove? The full install does not seem that "full" to me
[21:09] <Eickmeyer> Basically, I'm copy/pasting the "desktop" seed to our "desktop" seed and removing the "desktop-core" seed while tweaking kubuntu-specific stuff to be ubuntustudio. (settings, plymouth & grub themes)
[21:09] <Eickmeyer> (wallpapers)
[21:10] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: How are things at home?
[21:10] <OvenWerks> (take care of the family first)
[21:11] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: My wife doesn't have COVID. She's been working from home all week. Son is working on homeschool stuff now. Everything is fine here. :)
[21:11] <OvenWerks> Cool
[21:12] <Eickmeyer> I've been taking most of the week to try to chill out. Since our daily ISO started building yesterday, I decided now was the time to at least get started on the switch.
[21:13] <OvenWerks> Good. I think I have two partitions I can play with. I will put a stock 20.04 Studio on one and use the other for 20.10 tryouts
[21:13] <OvenWerks> My daily has switched from 18.04 Studio to 20.04 studio on top of kubuntu
[21:14]  * OvenWerks is still finding applications/packages missing for productive work :P
[21:14] <Eickmeyer> Same here. (19.10 to 20.04 Studio on Kubuntu)
[21:17] <OvenWerks> Got some new headphones today, Samson SR850. They are AKG knock-offs with venting. So made for mixing not tracking. they sound very nice... good enough I have looked around a few times cause I thought the noise I heard was in the same room :)
[21:21] <Eickmeyer> Oh nice. I have some $20 behringers that work for monitoring, but get uncomfortable after a while. Other than that the sound reproduction is top notch. I also have some Presonus studio monitors that are reallllly nice.
[22:31] <StevenJayCohen> Eickmeyer: OvenWerks : Are you planning on requesting a custom Yaru color for Studio? https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/2170#issuecomment-621376909
[22:32] <StevenJayCohen> <OvenWerks "Got some new headphones today, S"> I work in either AKG 271s or AKG 503s.
[22:32] <Eickmeyer> StevenJayCohen: Nope. Yaru only affects Ubuntu proper. We don't use Yaru. Right now, what I'm doing with the seed is just using Breeze for now. Might show up in the dalies as soon as tomorrow.
[22:32] <StevenJayCohen> I used to use AKG 240s but needed a bit more isolation
[22:33] <StevenJayCohen> Eickmeyer: Read the comment, the Yaru team will make a Yaru version for any flavor that wants it. So, the Studio branding could extend into the standard gnome install with no extra work for you
[22:35] <StevenJayCohen> "The closest thing is to release an entire new set of Yaru-ish themes, each one with different accent colors (blue, green, etc.), which we are already planning to do for the Ubuntu flavors that want it"
[22:36] <Eickmeyer> We'll think about it. An accent color for us would, of course, be blue, but they would need to have a Qt/KDE version too.
[22:36] <Eickmeyer> At least, *I* will think about it. :)
[22:36] <OvenWerks> StevenJayCohen: I think these are AKG 240 knockoffs, about half the price
[22:37] <OvenWerks> I got my son some closed cans (good quality) which he loves, but I find my ears feel "pressurized".
[22:38] <OvenWerks> BTW what is "Yaru"
[22:40] <Eickmeyer> Yaru is the default theme for Ubuntu (proper/vanilla).
[22:41] <OvenWerks> So a gnome based thing... 
[22:41] <Eickmeyer> Not really. It's a GTK theme.
[22:42] <Eickmeyer> It's also an icon theme.
[22:43] <OvenWerks> So how does that work with plasma? Does it need a conversion
[22:43] <Eickmeyer> Ok, seed changed, uploaded, metas changed and uploaded, default-settings changed and uploaded... in the words of Samuel L. Jackson in Jurassic Park, "Hold on to your butts."
[22:43] <StevenJayCohen> <OvenWerks "I got my son some closed cans (g"> My daughter stole my Sennheiser 280s. And my son won't use anything but BeyerDynamics -- audiofile that he is.
[22:43] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Nah, I don't think it'll be of any consequence to us.
[22:43] <Eickmeyer> Unless we make it one.
[22:44] <Eickmeyer> BTW, before changing -meta and -default settings, I branched the sucker.
[22:45] <StevenJayCohen> <OvenWerks "So how does that work with plasm"> It would afect people installing Studio into regular Ubuntu. When they'd get Studio Branding, it would include a custom version of the default Gnome 3 theme using your colors isntead of the purple and orange.
[22:45] <StevenJayCohen> > <@freenode_OvenWerks:matrix.org> So how does that work with plasma? Does it need a conversion
[22:45] <StevenJayCohen>  * It would afect people installing Studio into regular Ubuntu. When they'd get Studio Branding, it would include a custom version of the default Gnome 3 theme using your colors instead of the purple and orange.
[22:45] <Eickmeyer> We don't really change the branding for Gnome as it is right now.
[22:46] <StevenJayCohen> my point exatly, its on the roadmap for the Yaru team to provide them to the flavours (if the flavours want it)
[22:46] <Eickmeyer> I think we'll follow Kubuntu's lead on that one.
[22:51] <StevenJayCohen> Dejected, the former macOS themer sighs quietly, lowers his head in disappointment, and trudges away...
[22:51] <StevenJayCohen> :)
[22:52] <StevenJayCohen> Sorry, I'm a recovering  theme geek
[22:52] <Eickmeyer> Hehehehe
[22:52] <Eickmeyer> Unrelated: metas and -default-settings built. I guess tomorrow we'll find out whether or not the ISO builds.
[22:53] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: so breeze theme but the old icon theme still?
[22:53] <StevenJayCohen> When I have an extra studio machine not in use, I can test there. Until then, I could use a VM to test if that helps
[22:53] <Eickmeyer> Breeze theme and icons. Basically, exact same as Kubuntu for now. I have yet to get really in-depth with tweaking.
[22:54] <OvenWerks> If you are just looking at the desktop that would work fine... low latency audio may not be (lwo latency that is :)
[22:54] <Eickmeyer> I did switch it to our plymouth theme, moved the panel to the top, and changed the icon to the Black-On-White version of ours.
[22:54] <StevenJayCohen> Let me know when you need a tester NOT using KDE. I'd be happy to test installing into 20.10 Gnome for you.
[22:54] <Eickmeyer> StevenJayCohen: Will do.
[22:55] <OvenWerks> Thats mostly whay I have... well, my window decorations are a bit different.
[22:55] <Eickmeyer> ^ CDE-4-lyfe for this guy.
[22:55] <StevenJayCohen> Breeze and Materia-KDE are a nice match
[22:56] <Eickmeyer> Also, I need the materia-kde package in the archive first.
[22:56] <StevenJayCohen> Then Materia GTK makes it all match and the graphics people won't have a fit when they open a Gnome app
[23:06] <Eickmeyer> teward: When you have a chance, new package: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/materia-kde/+git/materia-kde (the KDE version of materia-gtk-theme). Was braindead simple.