[04:41] <Jw> Hi!!!
[04:42] <Jw> Someone that wanna help me with a problem installin mysql? Please :|
[04:43] <Eickmeyer> Jw: You're more likely to get help in #ubuntu for that sort of thing.
[04:44] <Jw> I will search, thank you!
[04:44] <housecat> although absent any further details, the answer is "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[04:46] <Jw> The problem is a little  more big!
[04:47] <Eickmeyer> Jw: Then I suggest asking in #ubuntu since it's more active.
[04:47] <housecat> (they'll need to make a nickserv account for that :s)
[04:47] <Jw> I installed it but letter I haved a problem with phpmyadmin and I uninstalled myadmin and mysql. Now the system say that mysql is instaled but no. And also I can't install or uninstall =(
[04:48] <Eickmeyer> !register
[04:48] <housecat> why on earth
[04:48] <Jw> Thank you and see you!!! :)
[04:48] <Eickmeyer> Jw: We specialize in audio/video here. No MySQL experts usually.
[04:49] <housecat> ubottu: register =~ s%https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration%https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration%
[04:50] <Eickmeyer> housecat: Should that command not have worked?
[04:50] <Jw> Oh!!!
[04:50] <Jw> I have a question about audio.
[04:50] <housecat> Eickmeyer: it did worked, ubottu just got confused because @register is also a (PM-only) supybot command
[04:51] <Eickmeyer> Jw: What's the question?
[04:51] <Jw> Someone recomend to me a software called "Melodyne" and I was searching about an alternative but without success
[04:51] <Eickmeyer> Never heard of it.
[04:55] <Jw> The software help to sign better or some thing so... Here I found that it is posible with ardour and zitaatl but... zitaatl is installing but no run when I try
[04:57] <Eickmeyer> Jw: I'm also not sure how to use that. Ardour I know, but not the other thing. Maybe see if the folks in #lau (Linux Audio Users) or #opensourcemusicians have any ideas.
[04:58] <Jw> Thank you!!!
[04:58] <Eickmeyer> Yw
[10:38] <JAN88> :]
[12:16] <Big-Ghost> Nice description and how to accept the terms?
[12:31] <Big-Ghost> Hello everyone. Is there someone here who could give me a little instruction on how to determine system errors on different computers. Most of them are related to kernels and graphics drivers in 20.04. Black screen sporadically after starting up the computer on three different computers.
[12:54] <Big-Ghost> I have diffrent systems to help, to fix some bugs, But nobody is willing to help me a little with the analysis so that I can report it correctly in the bug tracker. that's the biggest problem here. Over 10 years now.
[13:42] <StevenJayCohen> <Eickmeyer "Never heard of it."> Next time a Melodyne question comes up, feel free to ping me :)
[16:46] <provvisorio62> buonasera a tutti!
[16:46] <provvisorio62> qualcuno sa dirmi se c'è un modo per eliminare o disattivare lo snap store presente in ubuntu 20.04 senza intaccare il sistema di aggiornamenti del resto del sistema? (per la precisione utilizzo ubuntu studio 20.04, e per forza di cose ogni MB di RAM libero in più è di grande aiuto, soprattutto perchè ho solo 4GB di RAM, e lo snap store me ne
[16:46] <provvisorio62> occupa sempre 339,6MB in background)
[16:50] <Eickmeyer> !it | provvisorio62
[16:52] <provvisorio62> Excuse me! my mistake! I copied and pasted from the # ubuntu-it-chat channel!
[16:53] <provvisorio62> good evening everyone!can anyone tell me if there is a way to delete or disable the snap store present in ubuntu 20.04 without affecting the system of updates of the rest of the system? (to be precise I use ubuntu studio 20.04, and inevitably every extra MB of free RAM is of great help, especially since I only have 4GB of RAM, and the snap store
[16:53] <provvisorio62> always takes care of 339.6MB of it in the background)
[16:55] <Eickmeyer> provvisorio62: "sudo snap remove snap-store" would do the trick. We don't include the snap store by default, but for some reason it's being pulled-in after install.
[16:55] <Eickmeyer> For most people it's not a problem.
[16:58] <provvisorio62> Eickmeyer Yes, I noticed. immediately after installing ubuntu studio 20.04, ubuntu software center updated to the customized version of the snap store
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> provvisorio62: Unfortunately, there's no way to prevent that from happening post-release. I'm going to see if I can get it fixed for 20.04.1, but that might be a long shot.
[17:00] <StevenJayCohen> Eickmeyer: at some point (like the chromium deb) the snap was listed as an update to the store deb. I don't know if that's still the case. The solution I found was to completely uninstall snap on the studio machines.
[17:02] <housecat> yeah. assuming you don't need Chromium, "push snapd into a volcano" is my usual solution. Whole lotta Chrom* users out there tho.
[17:02] <Eickmeyer> If you do need Chromium, I suggest Brave as they still use .deb.
[17:03] <StevenJayCohen> housecat: happy to talk about the snap stuff in a non-support channel if you like. Let's hold to the issue here. I was just using that snap as an example.
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> StevenJayCohen: housecat is part of the IRC council and is basically super-OP.
[17:03] <housecat> doesn't make me immune to nudges about being offtopic :)
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> ^Facts. :)
[17:04] <StevenJayCohen> Ha! ... sorry ...
[17:04]  * StevenJayCohen feels a bit foolish
[17:04] <provvisorio62> Eickmeyer: perfect! so another question, since i've installed "infamous" audio lv2 plugin, from snap, if i uninstall snap store also this snap app will be removed?
[17:04] <Eickmeyer> provvisorio62: No, it won't.
[17:04] <Eickmeyer> The snap store does not affect snapd.
[17:04] <OvenWerks> LV2 plugins with snap? do they work?
[17:05] <Eickmeyer> ^ I was curious about that too.
[17:05] <StevenJayCohen> I was trying to hold to the division that Eickmeyer made clear when I first showed up
[17:05] <Eickmeyer> StevenJayCohen: You're fine. :)
[17:05] <provvisorio62> Eickmeyer: aaah! ok, they are two separately things!
[17:05] <StevenJayCohen> I thought they were going to flatpack
[17:06] <Eickmeyer> Last we checked, snaps can't interact with anything requiring or being a plugin.
[17:06] <StevenJayCohen> the plugins
[17:06] <Eickmeyer> StevenJayCohen: First I've heard of it. Either way, flatpaks use plugins a whole lot better than snaps.
[17:06] <StevenJayCohen> I think one way to stop the store from switching was to add the snap plugin for the other install as a manual install
[17:07] <provvisorio62> OvenWerks: i've just installed it, bu don't know if it work xD in the description on the snap it says: (give me just a moment, i will paste the description)
[17:07] <StevenJayCohen> Someone in the linux music channel mentioned it. No idea if it's strue
[17:08] <provvisorio62> OvenWerks: Infamous Plugins is a collection of open-source LV2 plugins developed by Spencer Jackson. This snap will place the plugins in this location, /snap/infamous/x1/lib/lv2. Don't forget to add this path to your lv2 host or copy the folder containing the files in /usr/lib/lv2/ or /usr/local/lib/lv2/.
[17:08] <Eickmeyer> That makes sense. As long as it's in the path it should be usable.
[17:09] <StevenJayCohen> Carla should be able to see that path
[17:10] <Eickmeyer> StevenJayCohen: Not by default. It would have to be manually added.
[17:11] <provvisorio62> Eickmeyer: yes... but is it the same thing to copy the folder in /usr/lib/lv2/ or in /usr/local/lib/lv2/ ?
[17:13] <Eickmeyer> provvisorio62: I wouldn't, that could mess up the snap.
[17:13] <Eickmeyer> provvisorio62: Also, it wouldn't update automatically in those folders.
[17:15] <provvisorio62> Eickmeyer: uhmmm... so it's better to add the path in every single program that use audio plugins
[17:15] <Eickmeyer> provvisorio62: Yes. This is a very non-standard way of installing plugins, so yes, I would add the path to every program that uses at least LV2 plugins.
[17:18] <provvisorio62> it's a little bit messy, but I'll try to make it when I have a bit of will. XD
[20:02] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: symbolic links work too rather than moving a plugin where it belongs. However, anyone getting a snap of lv2 plugins should imediately file a bug report that they don't work anyway and suggest snaps are _not_ the right way
[20:03] <OvenWerks> ... can I have this as a terball or deb please?
[20:03] <OvenWerks> *tarball
[20:06] <OvenWerks> I thought Spencer knew better
[20:10] <OvenWerks> I guess he is trying to OS agnostic... But I think in the case of plugins a tarball comes closer
[20:10] <OvenWerks> A tarball with a script as the first part of it (like the Ardour install) would be better.
[20:12] <OvenWerks> The script would ask for sudo pasword and install in /usr/lib/lv2/ or if that password fails, in ~/.lv2/
[20:12] <OvenWerks> (or ask first)
[20:13] <OvenWerks> However, I understand packaging is the last thing a developer wants to think about :)
[23:21] <provvisorio> Good Evening folks! does anyone know why "ardor" does not fit in my 1366x768px screen even resizing the window? I'm forced to reduce the scale of the graphical interface of around 90%
[23:21] <provvisorio> *Ardour
[23:23] <Eickmeyer> provvisorio: It doesn't work well on lower resolution screens  in my experience as well. You might have to go to Preferences>Interface and lower the scaling. That should help.
[23:26] <provvisorio> Yes, I use that solution, but is a little bit uncomfortable. So, isn't there any other solution? (not recompiling it :') ) Or we must wait for the next version of Ardour?
[23:27] <Eickmeyer> The next version of Ardour should be better for lower resolution screens, iirc (OvenWerks?).
[23:28] <Eickmeyer> Unfortunately, lowering the scaling is the only way I know of. Makes it hard to read.
[23:28] <OvenWerks> 768 high? That is pretty small.
[23:28]  * Eickmeyer must grocery shop, back later
[23:32] <provvisorio> Eickmeyer: perfect, we'll wait for the next version (y)  OvenWerks: yes, it is a 2012 HP notebook, or laptop anyway you want to call it, so I think 1366x768 is HDReady resolution (?? don't remember well)
[23:34] <OvenWerks> If I take a screen shot of the mix shrunk as far as it goes the resulting image is 686 pix high
[23:34] <OvenWerks> that is minus the title bar
[23:35] <OvenWerks>  and of course the panel takes up space too
[23:36] <provvisorio> I also use a secondary screen, an old (but very good and well performing) ACER that it's 1280x1024... on this screen there aren't problems, but i use the editor window on the notebook's screen and the mixer on the ACER
[23:36] <OvenWerks>  Ah, but that is with the mixer detached
[23:37] <OvenWerks> maybe detach the editor on the laptop screen and put the main screen with the mixer on the extra screen?
[23:38] <provvisorio> yes, I do so
[23:38] <OvenWerks> I do not know that 6.0 is going to be any smaller to be honest.
[23:41] <provvisorio> but sometimes can be useful work on the editor on the extra screen, because it is bigger, antireflection and it is placed on the top of the desktop, so i can assume a better posture
[23:41] <OvenWerks> Hmm, how about that ... yes  Ardour 6.0 the main window can be shrunk quite a lot
[23:41] <OvenWerks> But the mixer windows is actually bigger
[23:42] <StevenJayCohen> OvenWerks: I would love to do a side-by-side comparison of Ardour and Reaper at some point.
[23:42] <OvenWerks> (bigger by about 10 pix?
[23:43] <OvenWerks> StevenJayCohen: have you looked at: http://admiralbumblebee.com/
[23:44] <provvisorio> sorry, OvenWerks i don't understand what you want to say
[23:44] <OvenWerks> provvisorio: Ardour 6.0 can be shurnk a lot with the main window
[23:45] <OvenWerks> provvisorio: but the mixer window is slightly larger
[23:45] <StevenJayCohen> <OvenWerks "Steven Jay Cohen: have you looke"> not yet, loading to watch in a few minutes
[23:46] <OvenWerks> StevenJayCohen: if you look through the website he has compared almost everything with everything else
[23:46] <provvisorio> StevenJayCohen: Personally I always use ardour, and just for curiosity I tried the linux version of Reaper (version 6.0.3 if i remember well), and there was a lot of thing that just doesn't work
[23:47] <provvisorio> OvenWerks: ok, i got it!
[23:50] <provvisorio> OvenWerks: are you and Eickmeyer developers?
[23:50] <OvenWerks> Sort of. Eickmeyer does a lot of packaging and is flavour lead
[23:51] <OvenWerks> I do some work on Ardour (OSC, Foldback... and a long time ago some MIDI control)
[23:51] <OvenWerks> and I put most of ubuntustudio-controls together
[23:55] <StevenJayCohen> <provvisorio "Steven Jay Cohen: Personally I a"> Using Mixbus as an Ardour proxy, it would seem that Admiral Bumblebee doesn't agree with you: http://admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html
[23:57] <OvenWerks> There are a number of people who use Reaper for tracking and mixbus for mixdown
[23:57] <provvisorio> OvenWerks: oh good, I've just studied to an IT high school... we studied a lot of languages, but i'm not practicing anymore... so as you work on ardour and Eickmeyer work on ubuntu studio, can you explain why the softare "Hexter" doesn't show any GUI and it generate a lot of xruns in any configuration of jack that I tried?
[23:58] <OvenWerks> I thought we didn't put hexter in 20.04
[23:59] <provvisorio> StevenJayCohen: I've tried it and gave me problems on the creation of a project folder... i don't know
[23:59] <OvenWerks> hexter is dying of "bitrot"