[00:18] <StatelessCat> Hey
[00:29] <skookum> Can someone confirm for me that the additional "PasswordAuthentication yes" at the bottom of the default sshd_config in 20.04 is misplaced? It looks like it was intended to be part of Match statement example but it can end up setting an option that the user has disabled earlier in the config file.
[00:30] <eaglgenes101> I have a strange issue: Trying to go to the MATE desktop punts me back to the login screen, but only once. The second time succeeds.
[00:35] <eaglgenes101> Happens with lubuntu as well
[00:44] <klu3> where can i find the wallpaper for lubuntu 20.04 ? i look at /usr/share/backgrounds but i dont see anything
[00:44] <bray90820> So on my client  I can't see my samba workgroup created with ubuntu 20.04 which I need to connect to my printer
[00:45] <bray90820> It's to my understanding workgroups are only available in smb1
[01:19] <Casper26> c
[01:19] <Casper26> e
[01:35] <Delemas> Is it possible for Ubuntu 19.10 with Bluetooth support to output audio over Bluetooth? When I search for my speakers my phone sees the devices but my Ubuntu system does not.
[01:53] <Delemas> Apparently Yes but it doesn't help...
[02:58] <mmx_in_orbit> can yall help me with a problem getting libncurses5:i386 installed
[02:59] <mmx_in_orbit> E: Unable to locate package libncurses5:i386
[03:00] <mmx_in_orbit> this is regarding a 16.04 VM on microsoft azure
[03:04] <nethans> Hello
[03:14] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: I do not see that 32 bit is available in xenial: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libncurses5&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all .
[03:15] <mmx_in_orbit> Bashing-om: what about this? https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/i386/libncurses5/download
[03:18] <mmx_in_orbit> i'm trying sudo apt-get install libncurses5:i386 by the way
[03:19] <mmx_in_orbit> oh and i'm like virtually 100 percent sure it worked fine on a local virtualbox vm also 16.04
[03:20] <mmx_in_orbit> just about only an hour and a half ago
[03:25] <mmx_in_orbit> isn't ''i386'' pretty much the same thing as ''32 bit''?
[03:26] <mmx_in_orbit> i DO see ''i386'' on the page you linked
[03:26] <ra> mmx_in_orbit, did you: sudo apt-get update  then: sudo apt-get install libncurses5
[03:26] <mmx_in_orbit> ra, yes
[03:27] <ra> ok, because i see it from: sudo apt-cache search libncurses5
[03:28] <mmx_in_orbit> maybe the vm just needs a reboot
[03:28] <mmx_in_orbit> be right back
[03:30] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: I do not understand all I do not knoe :( but, wget http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ncurses/libncurses5_6.0+20160213-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:31] <Bashing-om> fetches the file :)
[03:32] <oerheks> ncurses-base is at 6..
[03:32] <oerheks> !info ncurses-base xenial
[03:33] <oerheks> why 5?
[03:34] <mmx_in_orbit> pretty sure i need it for this game dedicated server i want to run by the name of painkiller black edition
[03:34] <mmx_in_orbit> i mean, here's the error i get when i try to run it
[03:34] <eskatrem> hello, I am on ubuntu 18.04 and am trying to upgrade it. running as root `do-release-upgrade` fails, because this authentication `authenticate 'eoan.tar.gz' against 'eoan.tar.gz.gpg'` fails. Can someone help me?
[03:34] <Intelo> If I have multiple SSDs and assign each ssd for /etc another for /var another for /home. and so on, will I achieve 3x read/write speed as all SSDs may, in some occasions, work in parralel?
[03:34] <mmx_in_orbit> ./pkserver: error while loading shared libraries: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:35] <forgotmynick> Morning chaps. I’m trying to configure sendmail to forward root emails through smtp but only root. How do I do this?
[03:39] <eaglgenes101> Alright so for some reason I need to do multiple invocations of startx to have lxqt actually get going
[03:39] <eaglgenes101> But after the first time it works somehow
[03:41] <mmx_in_orbit> so it seems sudo apt-get install lib32ncurses5 instead of sudo apt-get install libncurses5:i386 worked
[03:43] <mmx_in_orbit> thanks for help Bashing-om and oerheks
[03:43] <eaglgenes101> There seems to be some kind of resource that the first session lays down before it keels over
[03:44] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: Got it working ?
[03:45] <mmx_in_orbit> aw great now i'm getting libstdc++.so.5 not found
[03:48] <eaglgenes101> First runs say something about an opengl context failing to be created in qt
[03:50] <Bashing-om> !info libstdc++5 xenial
[03:52] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: Optional to install ^ . Try and install the paclage ?
[03:53] <R13ose> One of my earbuds of headphones is lower sound than others.  How do I fix that?
[03:57] <mmx_in_orbit> Bashing-om: You mean install gcc-3.3?
[03:58] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: No, https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libstdc%2B%2B5 says that libstdc++5 is a package.
[03:59] <mmx_in_orbit> Bashing-om: Should I use sudo apt-get install libstdc++5 ?
[04:00] <eromangame> s
[04:01] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: Yeah - I would think so .
[04:03] <Xavi92> Was python-pip removed from the repos for focal? esp-idf still uses python2.7 (I know it's EOL but I cannot do anything about it) but apt cannot find python-pip
[04:04] <oerheks> known issue?
[04:04] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/1869117
[04:07] <mmx_in_orbit> Bashing-om: Okay, I did that and the game server still says
[04:07] <mmx_in_orbit> ./pkserver: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:09] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: A path issue ? what returns ' sudo find / -name libstdc++.so.5 ' . Give it plenty of time to seach the file system :D
[04:11] <mmx_in_orbit> Bashing-om: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.5
[04:12] <Xavi92> Thanks for the link, oerheks. Is there any progress on it?
[04:13] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: Well, as the file is on the system - must be a path issue in the app - a config somewhere ?
[04:15] <oerheks> esp-idf can run on python3 https://docs.espressif.com/projects/esp-idf/en/latest/esp32/get-started/linux-setup.html
[04:20] <mmx_in_orbit> Bashing-om: I don't think so.
[04:22] <Bashing-om> mmx_in_orbit: All I can presently think of :( Out of time and I must get off - happy hunting.
[04:22] <mmx_in_orbit> Okay, thanks anyway :)
[04:22] <Bashing-om> laters :D
[05:59] <DocPlatypus> what is the recommended replacement for go2 on focal/20.04? I wasn't expecting it to go missing after the upgrade
[06:00] <DocPlatypus> also, I am having issues with my network not staying connected in 20.04 unless I kill NetworkManager... never had this happen before in a decade of using Ubuntu
[06:13] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: go2 ... meeting?
[06:13] <matsaman> oh go2, directory finder?
[06:13] <DocPlatypus> matsaman: go2 directory navigation tool. looks like it's a casualty of dropping Python 2.x support
[06:13] <DocPlatypus> ya that one
[06:15] <threebar> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python3.7/libpython3.7_3.7.5-2~19.10_amd64.deb <- missing
[06:16] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: you could probably still install it the manual way, as python2 remains available
[06:16] <DocPlatypus> matsaman: I may try that... but there's no apparent official release for it and the repository I found for it hasn't had a commit since 2013 (!!!)
[06:17] <oerheks> threebar, run updates properly, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.7/3.7.5-2~19.10ubuntu1
[06:17] <oerheks> mind the 1 after ubuntu
[06:17] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: yeah it's probably dead software, but who knows it might only need a 2to3 update mostly
[06:17] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: so it's a GUI directory changer you use otherwise from a term?
[06:18] <DocPlatypus> matsaman: I only used it from terminal, didn't know there was a GUI component until recently
[06:18] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: oh okay
[06:18] <DocPlatypus> I'm game to finding an alternative though
[06:18] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: so it's just for keeping a list of dirs?
[06:18] <DocPlatypus> matsaman: I would type in something like "go2 abc1" and it would change to the drive with that beginning to its UUID mounted under /media
[06:19] <DocPlatypus> among others... I could change to directories without having to remember the whole %$&*# path
[06:19] <matsaman> so you type 'go2 abc1' and it goes to /media/abc1 ?
[06:20] <DocPlatypus> it goes to the full /media/skquinn/abc12345-fedc-1098-3456-... etc directory
[06:22] <matsaman> mmm, sounds like you could just do something like 'cd "$(locate $1 | parallel file | grep directory | head -1)"'
[06:22] <matsaman> or if you have fast storage (SSD, etc.), you can use find directly instead of locate's database
[06:22] <matsaman> find / -type d
[06:23] <matsaman> you could even sort by last access time, if your FS is set up right
[06:23] <matsaman> would all fit easily into a bash function
[06:23] <DocPlatypus> it's a lower priority fix right now... the more urgent issue is NetworkManager without which I have little hope of using wifi when I take the laptop places
[06:23] <matsaman> what's up with nm then?
[06:24] <DocPlatypus> I start NM (or just log in with it running) and the network keeps disconnecting
[06:24] <DocPlatypus> oddly enough... the DHCP client and IP address stabilized when I pulled out the network cable, also when I killed NM
[06:27] <DocPlatypus> oh... my sound is also stuck at "dummy output" and will not let me change it. think I have had this happen before?
[06:29] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: which wifi driver?
[06:30] <DocPlatypus> matsaman: rtl8187 but it happens even with a wired connection
[06:31] <matsaman> oh sorry I read 'pulled out' as 'put in'
[06:35] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: an easy test would be to try booting your old kernel, which should still be in /boot/
[06:36] <DocPlatypus> ok. I will try that. brb
[06:43] <DocPlatypus> okay. old kernel still has dummy output and still has NM issue. the connection itself is stable, actually, but it keeps flashing "activation of connected network failed"
[06:56] <doomlist3> hey guys https://i.imgur.com/4SufEzS.png
[06:57] <doomlist3> where is the disable autologin , i want password prompt upon boot ubuntu 18.04.4
[06:57] <doomlist3> it's not clickable
[06:58] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: see something about 'usb ethernet' in wifi settings?
[06:58] <gabkdlly> doomlist3: You need to unlock before you can change that setting.
[06:59] <matsaman> DocPlatypus: try disabling it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq9NsQcmJRc
[06:59] <gabkdlly> doomlist3: See the button at the top right of that window?  Hit that.
[06:59] <doomlist3> ahh thanks a lot
[07:00] <doomlist3> you were helpful , i feel like an idiot. even though i know programming in python. and bash.
[07:01] <gabkdlly> We all get tripped up from time to time.  Sometimes you just need an extra pair of eyes.
[07:02] <databoose> Anyone else getting the "Could not calculate the upgrade" error when upgrading from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS?
[07:02] <DocPlatypus> don't have USB ethernet showing
[07:03] <databoose> Apparently libgirepository-1.0-1:amd64 is broken but a lot of important stuff on my system relies on it
[07:07] <DarkTrick> test
[08:11] <johnjay> is gdm3 and lightdm managed from systemd?
[08:11] <johnjay> i see gdm.service in the listing
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> johnjay: what are you trying to do?
[08:16] <johnjay> i'm trying to determine how i can start, stop, and switch between gdm and lightdm in case this ubuntu install fails like the previous 18.04 one
[08:16] <johnjay> it's a yes or no question
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> johnjay: are you on 20.04?
[08:18] <johnjay> yes
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> johnjay: install stacer, manage your systemd services easy a GUI way
[08:18] <johnjay> ok
[08:18] <johnjay> thanks
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> johnjay: gdm lightdm and sddm are related to the DE you are using, when installing the flavour/DE it should ask you during its installing wich one you would like to use
[09:08] <memphisto> hi, I'm using Kubuntu18.04 and I've installed snap Clementine. but it doesn't follow them
[09:08] <memphisto> theming
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> memphisto: clementine snap bugs contact: jimmy.tigert@gmail.com
[09:18] <xplx> hello, can i get some help with v20.04 iptables rules? it seems that something is changed from 18.04 and i'm noob
[09:35] <sebsebseb> hi
[09:36] <rajivmars> hello guys! i have installed ubuntu 20.04. i don't have any other operating system using alongside it. to day after 'sudo apt update' when i restart the laptop ubuntu show me the grub menu to select 'ubuntu or advanced options for ubuntu'. is it normal?
[09:36] <rajivmars> guys*
[09:36] <sebsebseb> rajivmars: hmm
[09:36] <sebsebseb> rajivmars: yes
[09:36] <sebsebseb> rajivmars: Grub will still come up always or at times, on a only Ubuntu computer as well
[09:37] <rajivmars> sebsebseb: it it a bug?
[09:37] <sebsebseb> no
[09:37] <sebsebseb> Grub is still there
[09:37] <sebsebseb> you need it to load up Ubuntu
[09:37] <sebsebseb> even if Ubuntu is the only OS on there
[09:37] <rajivmars> but it never appears when using a single os.
[09:37] <rajivmars> ok
[09:38] <sebsebseb> it will sometimes see above
[09:38] <sebsebseb> does on this lap top at times too
[09:38] <sebsebseb> and it's only got Ubuntu on it currently
[09:39] <xplx> sometimes it apears due to loading times, its an old laptop that?
[09:39] <rajivmars> sebsebseb: ok. thanks! i just wanted to confirm whether its a bug or normal behaviour.
[09:40] <rajivmars> because it never happened during ubuntu 18.04.
[09:40] <sebsebseb> rajivmars: no you will get Grub sometmeis anyway
[09:40] <sebsebseb> also some button will probably bring it up
[09:40] <sebsebseb> rajivmars: if I turn off the lap top when first booting for example
[09:40] <sebsebseb> but not full boot
[09:40] <sebsebseb> had a it booting up for a little bit, and then turn it off, and maybe again as well, and then Grub will come up
[09:42] <rajivmars> sebsebseb: oh. that's good information for me, as i m new in linux:)
[09:44] <sebsebseb> rajivmars: importantly you need Grub or some sort of boot loader, or Ubuntu won't even load up, even if it's the only OS on the computer
[09:44] <sebsebseb> rajivmars: so seeing Grub sometimes on a single boot system, is all fine and good
[09:44] <WereCatf> How do I prevent Ubuntu from bringing network down on shutdown or reboot?
[09:45] <sebsebseb> WereCatf: you mean like wireless or ?
[09:45] <WereCatf> Any
[09:45] <sebsebseb> no that should just work wifi and such, unless you put air plane mode on by mistake for example
[09:45] <sebsebseb> or disabled it yourself
[09:45] <sebsebseb> WereCatf: some computers might have wireless issues though, where I guess it could get disabled on shut down, but with most should be ok now
[09:46] <WereCatf> No, Ubuntu does turn networking off on reboot and shutdown by default
[09:46] <xplx> my iptables rules completly cut the access, worked on 18.04, what changed in networking?
[09:48] <sebsebseb> oh
[09:49] <sebsebseb> not sure,  but newer isn not always better
[09:49] <sebsebseb> the networking stuff probably got upgraded too
[09:49] <sebsebseb> or a faulty congiguration on upgrade
[09:49] <sebsebseb> try a 20.04 Live seession
[09:49] <xplx> its fresh install
[09:49] <sebsebseb> well if that helps, I mean can test wifi etc with that
[09:50] <xplx> all works well before i set the rules
[09:50] <sebsebseb> xplx: sorry can't help much more, but someone  elsec can later I expect
[09:51] <sebsebseb> and more properly :)
[10:00] <WereCatf> I am booting Ubuntu over iSCSI, but the stupid damn thing insists on turning networking off on reboot/shutdown, thus breaking the connection to the iSCSI-target. How do I prevent Ubuntu from bringing networking down?
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> WereCatf: try #ubuntu-server
[10:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:26] <sebsebseb> BluesKaj: hi
[10:27] <BluesKaj> hi sebsebseb
[10:29] <xplx> damn firewall
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> xplx: mind your language in the ubuntu support channels please
[10:37] <xplx> lotuspsychje   dont be so sensitive
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> xplx: this is not about me, its about the general !guidelines
[10:39] <WereCatf> Is "damn" really considered a "bad word" here?
[10:39] <xplx> it seems so
[10:40] <WereCatf> ...
[10:40] <xplx> or maybe it was the "firewall" one , lol
[10:40] <WereCatf> Must have been that one! Those things certainly cause a lot of terror and destruction at times
[10:41] <zaggynl> hi, when using chromium I see a lot of audit messages in syslog, using ubuntu 20.04, what causes these?
[10:42] <zaggynl> example: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1144299
[10:42] <doh> i need to clone a 16gb usb disk to a 32gb usb disk, but the catch is that they're awfully slow so i need to somehow skip the unused space
[10:42] <doh> i only got as far as dding the whole 16gb and then truncating the image so i only need to flash a smaller image
[10:43] <doh> but i'd like to only clone used space to begin with
[10:43] <doh> any ideas?
[10:43] <WereCatf> doh: Does it actually need to be a byte-for-byte copy or can't you just copy the files on it?
[10:43] <doh> there's a boot partition and whatever
[10:43] <doh> so mbr, gpt, all these 3 letter codes
[10:45] <WereCatf> doh: I see. The first solution to come to mind would be to use Clonezilla
[10:45] <WereCatf> Clonezilla can just copy only the used space
[10:45] <doh> will it take care of multiple partitions and all these 3 letter thins?
[10:46] <xplx> its an Os on that 16gb drive?
[10:46] <doh> yes
[10:46] <doh> and 16gb isn't really enough for anything so i'm moving it to a 32gb
[10:48] <xplx> you can clone it exactly to the 32 then resize the partitions to fit 32
[10:50] <valentin> any idea how to tell if a kernel commit is part of the shipped 20.04 kernel?
[10:50] <jeremy31> valentin: look at the changelogs
[10:51] <valentin> sorry, it's the 1st time I'm looking at this. is that the ubuntu package changelogs or some other changelog?
[10:55] <valentin> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/gpu/drm/i915?id=98479ada421a8fd2123b98efd398a6f1379307ab <-- this is the commit I'd like to see if it's part of the shipped 5.4.0 kernel
[10:56] <valentin> it seems to be the RC of a regression that makes the UI animations visibly stutter on intel GPUs (in my case Kaby Lake): https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/1698
[10:56] <valentin> not sure how to correlate the freedesktop IDs with LP bugs
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> valentin: the #ubuntu-kernel team can also tell you more about commits
[11:01] <valentin> thanks for the suggestions
[11:14] <pa> hi, i'm on 19.10 and am trying to upgrade to 20.04 but i get no option to do that. according to the upgrader there is nothing to upgrade?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> pa: do-release-upgrade -c -d
[11:15] <pa> ah thanks
[11:22] <YeOldHinnerk> Hi. Question about ntp.conf. I want to add my router, which acts as an ntp server in my lan.
[11:22] <YeOldHinnerk> I understand how to do this, but what is this burst/iburst/"nothing" I append to the server adress?
[11:22] <YeOldHinnerk> What would be the right choice for me?
[11:23] <StevenJayCohen> <pa "hi, i'm on 19.10 and am trying t"> The upgrader will wait by default for 20.04.1 to be released before offering it to you. It's a safety feature.
[11:23] <pa> ah i see
[11:27] <RomainCayre> hi everybody
[11:27] <RomainCayre> i'm trying to make ubuntu work on a BayTrail tablet
[11:28] <RomainCayre> the version 20.04 is working, however when the GUI is loaded, the screen turns off after a few seconds
[11:28] <RomainCayre> if I add nomodeset in the grub, it works well but I don't have the screen rotation
[11:28] <RomainCayre> the driver is probably i915
[11:28] <RomainCayre> do you have an idea ?
[11:29] <RomainCayre> when the screen turns off, the GUI is still responding because I heard a sound when I push the volume button
[11:30] <RomainCayre> the screen is only black (or the brightness is 0)
[11:33] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: is that a X86 tablet ?
[11:34] <RomainCayre> yes
[11:34] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: I have some mini PC's that are x86, and yes Grub is on the side
[11:34] <sebsebseb> Mini PC's
[11:34] <RomainCayre> it's a french tablet from thompson, it seems to be very close to chuwi / pipo w2s tablets
[11:34] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: I think since they have a phone screen and it wasn't really designed for that in the case of side Grub
[11:34] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: yeah or GPD
[11:35] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: may need some slightly differnet drivers and such on devices like that, for certain things
[11:35] <sebsebseb> but I think in the case of Grub your stuck with it down the side really
[11:35] <sebsebseb> v
[11:35] <sebsebseb> flr
[11:35] <sebsebseb> for now
[11:36] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: Grub was only designed for normal PC and lap top screens
[11:36] <sebsebseb> and its not like grub has drivers,  and the config is limited or non existing for screen rotation
[11:36] <RomainCayre> yes but there is no problem with grub. It's fine
[11:36] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: yes just that its on the side ?
[11:36] <RomainCayre> i can load the x server
[11:37] <sebsebseb> not going across
[11:37] <sebsebseb> yes it will work, but will show down the side
[11:37] <RomainCayre> the problem is after the loading of X
[11:37] <RomainCayre> the screen turns off after a few seconds
[11:37] <RomainCayre> if I haven't set nomodeset
[11:37] <sebsebseb> that could be a lack of a driver or something
[11:38] <RomainCayre> but if nomodeset is loaded, I can't get screen rotation on X
[11:38] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: with some of these mini pc's they have customised Ubuntu builds that are made for the device, standard Ubuntu with some specific changes
[11:38] <sebsebseb> with your tablet I assume there is nothing like that currently
[11:38] <RomainCayre> it's a linuxium based distro
[11:39] <sebsebseb> linuxium ?
[11:39] <RomainCayre> the iso of ubuntu gnome 20.04 from linuxium's blog
[11:39] <sebsebseb> if the hardware is differnet enough in certan ways, it will work differently  on a device like that, than a standard lap top or pc
[11:39] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: got a link for that ?
[11:40] <beaver> http://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/ sebsebseb
[11:40] <RomainCayre> thank you beaver :)
[11:41] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: I treid to get support here before for a mini pc, and got your ot using an offical build blah de blah
[11:41] <sebsebseb> your not using an offical Ubuntu
[11:42] <RomainCayre> isn't there a known bug similar to these one related to i915 driver ?
[11:42] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: same to you, that's a  community re spin by the looks of it not an offical build,  you should contact the developer about your issues though
[11:44] <RomainCayre> I think the developer won't be able to help me on these, it's not related to the z3735 patch
[11:44] <YeOldHinnerk> I upgraded yesterday to 20.04. Now nextcloud stays blank, when I open its webpage. Where to start looking?
[11:44] <YeOldHinnerk> Apache is working.
[11:44] <RomainCayre> it's related to i915 video driver :/
[11:44] <ioria> RomainCayre, what's the graphic card exactly ?
[11:44] <sebsebseb> RomainCayre: what card is that for niviida ?
[11:44] <YeOldHinnerk> Or should I ask this in ubuntu-server?
[11:45] <ioria> RomainCayre, lspci -nnk
[11:48] <RomainCayre> https://pastebin.com/HEwkAZQ4
[11:52] <ioria> RomainCayre, you can try a custom xorg.conf : mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/  ; nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-intel.conf
[11:54] <ioria> RomainCayre,  and try this :  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sVnPdjrpXv/
[11:56] <RomainCayre> ok, then I reboot without nomodeset, right ?
[11:56] <ioria> yep
[11:59] <xplx> can anyone tell me why this config https://pastebin.com/Cr32xEKZ  kills my outgoing ?
[11:59] <xplx> v20.04
[12:00] <RomainCayre> no, same problem
[12:00] <ioria> RomainCayre,  this : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FJNZcXShVW/
[12:00] <RomainCayre> it starts the X server, it works for a few seconds, then the screen turns off
[12:01] <ioria> ah
[12:01] <Ravisankar> hi, i installed "Light" browser (rpm package) using alien.... but after the execution... i couldn't access (i dont know how to open) the browser "Light"
[12:01] <ioria> RomainCayre,  turn off ... how ? can you switch to a console tty ?
[12:01] <RomainCayre> no
[12:02] <RomainCayre> when it turns off, the gui is still responding because i hear the sound effect when i use the volume up button
[12:02] <RomainCayre> but the screen is off
[12:02] <RomainCayre> it doesn't happen with nomodeset, but i don't have the screen rotation
[12:03] <RomainCayre> and if i press Ctrl + Alt + F?, nothing happens
[12:04] <Ravisankar> i downloaded the rpm package for the "Light" browser from "https://sourceforge.net/projects/lightfirefox/"
[12:05] <Ravisankar> can we really install rpm packages in ubuntu using alien... if no how to remove the software which i installed using alien?
[12:10] <Walex> Ravisankar: sort of, mostly, sometimes. 'alien' converts an RPM archive to a DPKG archive; since at the core of both is a 'cpio' or 'tar' bundle of the file packages the conversion is possible. The problems are dependencies and pre/post scripts
[12:11] <Ravisankar> Walex actually i ran this command sudo alien -i <light_browser>.rpm, but after that i don't know how to open the browser
[12:11] <ioria> RomainCayre,   found an archlinux post suggests the culprit is  a service : systemd-backlight;   you can disable it  with  : systemctl mask systemd-backlight@.service
[12:13] <RomainCayre> so I can do this with nomodeset, then if I reboot this service is disabled, right ?
[12:13] <ioria> yep
[12:13] <RomainCayre> ok, i try it :)
[12:14] <Walex> Ravisankar: try 'dpkg -S /light'
[12:14] <blurkis> Do Ubuntu nowadays keep an upstream Gnome? I remember vaugly that some years ago they tailored with it a bit?
[12:15] <Ravisankar> Walex dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /light
[12:15] <Walex> Ravisankar: then try 'dpkg -S light'
[12:15] <CarlFK> is there something I can do to temporally disable auto screen lock?  so that I can leave it playing videos in a loop and not have to wake it up every so often
[12:16] <Walex> blurkis: Unity was a GIU derived from GNOME, but Ubuntu have left it behind and now they use upstream GNOME with an Ubuntu theme
[12:16] <Ravisankar> Walex it gave hundreds of lines as output
[12:16] <coconut> any reason for why my commands i did run yesterday in terminal are not part of the history file?
[12:16] <Ravisankar> ubuntu-mono: /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light/status/16/weather-few-clouds-night-130.svgubuntu-mono: /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light/status/24/xfce4-mixer-muted.svgubuntu-mono: /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light/status/22/indicator-keyboard-Cs-3.svg
[12:17] <StatelessCat> Hey
[12:17] <Walex> well, somewhere there is probably what you seek
[12:17] <Walex> Ravisankar: also try 'dpkg -l "*light*"'
[12:18] <RomainCayre> no, it doesn't change anything
[12:19] <CarlFK> coconut: if you open 2 terminals, they step on each other
[12:19] <Ravisankar> Walex how to uninstall it?
[12:21] <coconut> CarlFK, meaning?
[12:22] <ioria> RomainCayre, i see. I can't be of any help then; remove the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-intel.conf  and systemctl unmask systemd-backlight@.service
[12:23] <RomainCayre> ok, thank you very much anyway :)
[12:24] <ioria> no prob ; i post you the link : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193504 RomainCayre
[12:25] <coconut> CarlFK, can i change that?
[12:26] <Ravisankar> Walex hi.. did you mention something... actually my internet connection has stopped... so i did re-login... the browser window shows 3 notifications but i couldnt see text
[12:28] <Walex> Ravisankar: BTW you should be using a regular IRTC client.
[12:28] <sazawal> Hi all, elementary question, but why the thumbails of media files (music and video) not appearing in Nautilus. Tried deleting .cache/thumbails/fail, refresh, touch and nautilus restart. Nothing worked so far.
[12:28] <Walex> Ravisankar: to remove it you need to know with which name it was installed.
[12:29] <Walex> Ravisankar: try 'dpkg -l "*light*"' to list all installed packages with "light" in their name
[12:29] <sazawal> I am using Ubuntu 20.04 with Gnome Wayland/Xorg.
[12:30] <Walex> sazawal: what do you mean by "thumbnails"?
[12:31] <sazawal> Walex, I meant thumbnails in Nautilus file manager.
[12:31] <sazawal> That is the small file preview.
[12:33] <Walex> sazawal: how do you expect sound file thumbnails to look like?
[12:33] <Ravisankar> Walex sure i will install one irc cline... below is the link to see the output for the command dpkg -l "*light*"
[12:33] <Ravisankar> https://pastebin.com/zWVsmriy
[12:34] <Walex> please don't use pastebin.com but rather paste.ubuntu.com which is the default for the 'pastebinit' command
[12:35] <Walex> Ravisankar: so from that output what is your best guess as to package name?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: elementary is not a supported ubuntu derivative
[12:35] <sazawal> Walex, The music files on my system for example are tagged with an image. These images appear when the file is played in a music player. The iamges also appeared in the Nautilus of earlier Ubuntu versions. Similarly the images in the video files.
[12:36] <sazawal> lotuspsychje, lol. elementary not as in Elementary OS, just "elementary question"
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> sazawal: ah a general question, right
[12:37] <Ravisankar> Walex i think this is the package name "ii  light          47.0-2.20160 amd64        "Light 47.0""
[12:37] <Ravisankar> light is the package name
[12:37] <Walex> sazawal: I am not sure what you mean by "tagged", thumbnails as a rule have to be created. Look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/199110/how-can-i-instruct-nautilus-to-pre-generate-thumbnails
[12:38] <Walex> Ravisankar: that's indeed rather likely. You can ask DPKG to list the contents of that package with 'dpkg -L light' and that will tell you where the executable is.
[12:39] <Walex> Ravisankar: it is unlikely to work, but anyhow to uninstall use 'dpkg --purge light'
[12:39] <Walex> sazawal: also check out https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/thumbnailer.html.en
[12:39] <Ravisankar> @wal
[12:40] <Ravisankar> Walex thank you...
[12:40] <sazawal> Walex, Yes they get created by default unless manually tagged. The manual tagging was recognized by nautilus before. So I tagged music files using easy-tag or exaile music player. The video files for example can be tagged using mkvtoonix. They were recognized before in Nautilus, and the video files without a tagged image were thumbnailed by default, but not anymore.
[12:41] <sazawal> Walex, Let me check the links
[12:41] <Walex> sazawal: probably a setting somewhere has changed. You may want to ask in the #GNOME channel
[12:45] <Walex> my impressions so far is that ULTS 20 has a lot of changes
[12:46] <sazawal> Walex, Alright, thanks
[12:55] <aerialls> Hello! I've a small question regarding the new live installer using subiquity and autoinstall on Ubuntu 20.04. I tried to fully automate the process with an user-data file but the default LVM logical volume is sized at 3.9G and I don't find how to automatically resize it to use all space available in the disk. Nothing in
[12:55] <aerialls> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/AutomatedServerInstalls/ConfigReference#storage. Am I missing something? Or is this even possible? Thanks a lot!
[13:02] <tomreyn> aerialls: so far the design principle the installer seems to follow (this is my personal interpretation) is to keep things simple and to (only) provide the foundations necessary so that specific configurations can be achieved post installation without a need to carry out additional reboots.
[13:02] <tomreyn> i.e. you'd probably need to script this on your own.
[13:03] <tomreyn> see late-commands
[13:04] <aerialls> Thanks! I'll do that for now!
[13:05] <dadestroyer> when i plug in my headset the sound is playing through the microphone and when i speak into the headphones it acts as a microphone. is this a computer hardware issue or software?
[13:10] <tomreyn> aerialls: actually, with an action-based config https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/AutomatedServerInstalls/ConfigReference#action-based_config you can apparently specify a layout which is to be applied by curtin https://curtin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/storage.html - LVM example at https://curtin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/storage.html#lvm
[13:11] <tomreyn> aerialls: note there is also #ubuntu-server (which may be the better place to ask questions about the serverr installer)
[13:11] <aerialls> Thanks a lot tomreyn, I'll look at this!
[13:13] <tomreyn> you're welcome :)
[13:13] <GWM> So I'm trying to make a ubuntu-server 20.04 template, but the installer keeps crashing on me, the syslog indicates it doesn't like the sizing on some partitions, but I did use the guided LVM setup
[13:14] <tomreyn> GWM: there is #ubuntu-server (which may be the better place to ask questions about the serverr installer)
[13:15] <tomreyn> try providing more details on your setup, environment, and any logs, too
[13:19] <yolan> can someone help me with mongodb ?
[13:19] <yolan> so I have it apparently running
[13:19] <yolan> but I don't know from where
[13:24] <MWM> is there a problem with docker + eoan ?
[13:25] <MWM> docker stopped working for me and I reinstalled using the instructions on the docker page,  but dpkg is complaining about docker-ce ?
[13:55] <takov751> I have a question regarding snap LXD USB passtrough . Yes its really specific ,but crucial problem
[14:30] <longkhoaito> Hello
[14:35] <deadrom> hi
[14:36] <deadrom> need to install a package and purge some others on an installation I can only chroot into right now
[14:36] <deadrom> possible?
[14:37] <deadrom> i tried sudo chroot /old and then ran aptitude, gave me: could not resolve de.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:38] <EriC^^> deadrom: you need to mount bind some stuff
[14:38] <EriC^^> "for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /old$i; done" should do it for you
[14:38] <EriC^^> (to be run outside of chroot)
[14:39] <deadrom> EriC^^, ah, resolv.conf symlinks to /run. ok, thanks
[14:41] <EriC^^> yes, np
[14:42] <deadrom> works, yay. something different: can I uninstall plymouth? the boot loader bonnet nobody needs
[14:43] <deadrom> lightdm depends on it, so remove plymouth doesn't work. can I permanently disable it?
[15:08] <egrain> how to search for packages in the terminal? dpkg search or something, right?
[15:10] <nael_n> egrain: apt-cache search
[15:10] <tomreyn> egrain: or just:   apt search    (apt is the higher level utility, dpkg the lower level one)
[15:10] <StevenJayCohen> apt search gimp
[15:11] <egrain> apt is waht i needed. i wanted to version number.
[15:11] <egrain> thanks a bunch you two.
[15:11] <egrain> oh, 3.
[15:24] <CrazySam> I have an icon of my home folder on desktop. How do I get rid of it? It says it can't be removed.
[15:25] <StevenJayCohen> Open Tweaks,  go to Extensions, Find Desktop
[15:26] <CrazySam> Gnome Tweaks? Not sure if I have that, will check.
[15:26] <CrazySam> Not sure how it got there in the first place. But... properties dialog says it's of type Folder. Parent folder is /home.
[15:27] <StevenJayCohen> Yep, it's your home folder. You can change that in Gnome Tweaks (easy to add)
[15:29] <CrazySam> OK, will check it soon. I'm upgrading packages now. But I don't have Gnome Tweaks installed atm.
[15:29] <StevenJayCohen> guessing you will soon ;-)
[15:49] <deadrom> hi
[15:50] <deadrom> still struggling to get an old 18.04 to work on new old hardware.upgrade to 20.04 no option at present, has a bug in Wacom, I need Wacom
[15:51] <deadrom> I came from nvidia k1100 and now am on Radeon HD 7750. installed xservers radeon and ati, purged all nvidia packages
[15:51] <deadrom> still no X.
[15:53] <deadrom> I think it's the wrong amd driver, Xorg log says driver for (up to HD 6 series)
[15:53] <deadrom> am on a cli irc client, can someone say anyhting so I see if i am connected at all ? :)
[15:54] <coconut> deadrom, test
[15:55] <deadrom> coconut: thanks
[15:56] <deadrom> can I in 18.04 still write an xorg.conf?
[15:56] <Kon> deadrom: Check to see if Mesa is installed. dpkg --list |grep mesa-common-dev
[15:58] <deadrom> Kon: yes, it's there, and a whole bunch of other mesa packages
[15:59] <deadrom> I noticed neither radeon nor ati nor amdgpu are in the lsmod list
[16:00] <deadrom> so for some reason the module seems not to have loaded.
[16:00] <tomreyn> Radeon HD 7750 (Cape Verde Pro) is GCN1, should probably use the radeon driver
[16:01] <tomreyn> unless you have it blacklisted the radeon module should have been loaded automatically at boot.
[16:01] <deadrom> modprode radeon says: ERROR no UMS support in radeon module!
[16:02] <tomreyn> you have booted with "nomodeset" or "radeon.modeset=0"
[16:02] <tomreyn> cat /proc/cmdline     tells you which kernel parameters were passed during this boot
[16:03] <deadrom> tomreyn: oh yes, I manually added nomodeset and nosplash, that caused some issues.
[16:03] <deadrom> yes I have nomodeset currently. so better reboot without, huh
[16:03] <tomreyn> what you described originally already sounded like you overcomplicated things
[16:03] <deadrom> tomreyn: how so?
[16:04] <tomreyn> "installed xservers radeon and ati", normally those which are available on your release would already be installed, i think
[16:05] <tomreyn> and it sounded like you were looking for downloadable third party drivers on the web
[16:05] <tomreyn> you shouldn't need to do that
[16:05] <tomreyn> or maybe i misinterpreted
[16:05] <deadrom> tomreyn: nope, weren't.installed on an nvidia machine, so I guess 18.04 decided not to install those then
[16:05] <deadrom> but-- I wouldn't know, I just saw it wasn't there
[16:06] <tomreyn> so it's good you installed the X drivers then
[16:06] <deadrom> the other issue is I'm on wifi right now since I can't get a connection on the mobo built-in rtl8168, even after installing the r8168-dkms package which built the driver... any advice on that?
[16:07] <tomreyn> just reboot without nomodeset after removing all remainders of nvidia and any graphics driver blacklists added by the nvidia driver or yourself.
[16:07] <deadrom> blacklists, good point...
[16:08] <tomreyn> the nvidia driver also places a fixed configuration file somewhere below /etc/X11 i think
[16:09] <CrazySam> StevenJayCohen: installed, "show the personal folder in the desktop" disabled, done. Thanks!
[16:10] <deadrom> tomreyn: at least no xorg.conf
[16:10] <tomreyn> deadrom: just in case you really can't get it working with the radeon driver (or you did, but you want to try using the newer amdgpu driver afterwards, but only then) you can try loading the amdgpu driver instead using this   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU#Specify_the_correct_module_order
[16:11] <tomreyn> but do try radeon hard first
[16:11] <tomreyn> this should be a Southern Islands (SI) card
[16:15] <nael_n> I want to enable desktop sharing (VNC) to provide tech support for my dad. I can currently only ssh to my user on his machine, so I do "ssh -X me@host", then "sudo -i -u dad", transfer the X credentials as necessary ("xauth add ..."), and fire up "gnome-control-center". In the "Sharing" tab, whenever I try to toggle "Screen Sharing" to "on", I get
[16:15] <nael_n> this on the standard error instead: "Failed to enable service vino-server: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Sharing was not provided by any .service files"D-Bus again. It constantly complains whenever I run graphical applications over ssh -X, unless it's something trivial like xlogo. Does that
[16:15] <nael_n> mean that ssh -X is not sufficient?
[16:16] <deadrom> tomreyn: southern islands is correct. I got radeon and ati xservers installed, should I rather leave the system to choose or write a small xorg.conf?
[16:17] <grawity> rather, I think it means just setting $DISPLAY and xauth credentials is insufficient
[16:18] <grawity> be sure to set XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/$(id -u dad)
[16:18] <Aktive> th new release, lts  is really cool
[16:18] <Aktive> but you guy gotto get rid of the photos, theyre really crap
[16:18] <Aktive> needs new better
[16:19] <DocPlatypus> Anyone have any idea why I would lose sound going from 18.04 to 20.04? Sound settings now just show "dummy output"
[16:19] <Aktive> I dont know
[16:19] <nael_n> grawity: will try, brb
[16:19] <DocPlatypus> where to begin to look for the source of the problem?
[16:19] <grawity> hrm my laptop with Vino enabled is unreachable
[16:19] <grawity> I hope it's not on fire
[16:21] <deadrom> reboot now... wish me luck
[16:22] <tieinv> Aktive what photo's are you refering to?
[16:23] <mindbender1> My network manager vpn client stopped connecting to my SoftEther VPN service hosted on AWS since two days now. I think it started after I did a general update
[16:23] <mindbender1> I'm still able to connect from my phone to the VPN service
[16:23] <Deano59> hi, sorry to be a pain. I want to download sabnzbd 2.3.9 from their PPA but ubuntu has got 3.x in ubuntu's repo. what can I do to make it download from the PPA?
[16:25] <mindbender1> I have looked at syslog but can't really decipher the root cause. I need help
[16:26] <Aktive> how can I make my mouse faster, sensitivity
[16:27] <Deano59> anyone~?~
[16:27] <Deano59> even though I added the PPA, it's only showing the ubuntu repo package...
[16:29] <EriC^^> Deano59: did you run sudo apt-get update after adding the repo?
[16:29] <Deano59> EriC^^, it states it's from the repos and not the ppa...
[16:30] <Deano59> sabnzbdplus/focal,focal 3.0.0~0git20200408+dfsg-1 all where it should be 2.3.9 from the PPA>.../.
[16:30] <Deano59> but yes, I did try.
[16:30] <EriC^^> Deano59: it's cause apt takes the newest version it can find, you can use sudo apt-get install <package>=<version here> to get a certain version
[16:30] <shibboleth> https://jatan.blog/2020/05/02/ubuntu-snap-obsession-has-snapped-me-off-of-it/ <--- hggdh, oerheks : i told you this would happen
[16:30] <Deano59> EriC^^, ?
[16:31] <Deano59> it doesn't list the version
[16:31] <Deano59> only 3.x from the repos and not the PPA
[16:31] <Andrio> Hm
[16:31] <shibboleth> also: https://www.debian.org/security/2020/dsa-4671 <--- so now there are three code execution vulns in bionic vlc, two of which have been there for a year
[16:31] <Andrio> It's possible my installer was crashing because I had a dead hard drive
[16:35] <pa> hi , so i had this problem in 19.10 i still have in 20.04: wifi on X1 carbon doesn't work properly. After a while it stops working. when that happens dmesg starts vomiting errors like "iwlwifi 0000:00:14.3: Microcode SW error detected. Restarting 0x0." and then a dump of something (the firmware?)
[16:37] <pa> on software updates, under additional drivers, i still have intel Cannon Point LP CNVi [Wireless AC] and below "device is not working"
[16:37] <pa> and there's an option, greyed out, to use iwlwifi driver backported from somewhere, but i cannot choose it
[16:39] <pa> noone? i mean, this is intel chipset, i suppose a few folks should run their system on similar platforms..
[16:40] <Aktive> how do I g increase my mouse sensitivity? I already got it max. Or how do I increase dpi ?
[16:47] <deadrom>  the saga continues... "Failed to start Light Display Manager" and "Failed to start Detect the available GPUs and deal with system changes"
[16:47] <deadrom> what do I do about this "available GPUs" thing?
[17:01] <tomreyn> deadrom: radeon and ati xservers? i'm only familiar with the xserver-xorg 2d graphics server.
[17:01] <irate> is there a command to specify a name server that will be forgotten on reboot?
[17:02] <tomreyn> deadrom: you should not need to write an xorg.conf, there should not need to be any on disk, it is automatically generated in memory by Xorg during startup.
[17:03] <tomreyn> deadrom: ubuntu uses gdm3 by default. is there a reason you're preferring lightdm?
[17:04] <basedmeezus> so guys got a weird request and not sure if this is the right place to ask. Basically i want to disable all mouse inputs except for clicks, where would be the best place to ask this?
[17:04] <deadrom> tomreyn, I got it working by a fancy way: I installed gdm3. it seems lightdm is borked, though I have no idea why.
[17:05] <tomreyn> deadrom: i'm not familiar with the "Failed to start Detect the available GPUs and deal with system changes" message. i also don't think lightdm is generally broken (i'd just go with the defaults unless there are reasons not to).
[17:05] <pa> do i need linux-firmware?
[17:07] <tomreyn> pa: does all of your hardware work fine, do you worry about firmware vulnerabilities?
[17:07] <pa> tomreyn, no, wifi does not work fine
[17:07] <pa> stops working after a while
[17:07] <pa> see above
[17:07] <tomreyn> then, maybe, you need it.
[17:08] <pa> ok i added, i suppose i need to reboot
[17:08] <tomreyn> uninstalling it is simple
[17:08] <CrazySam> Is apt-get deprecated?
[17:08] <tomreyn> CrazySam: no
[17:08] <tomreyn> pa: yes
[17:08] <CrazySam> Why not?
[17:08] <tomreyn> pa: reloading the kernel module should suffice.
[17:09] <tomreyn> CrazySam: why would it be?
[17:09] <CrazySam> tomreyn: because apt does the same thing?
[17:09] <tomreyn> CrazySam: no, apt-get s scriptable, apt is not guaranteed to be.
[17:10] <tomreyn> apt moo | cat
[17:10] <JoeLlama> moo
[17:11] <CrazySam> tomreyn: I don't know about that.
[17:11] <tomreyn> CrazySam: that's ok.
[17:11] <CrazySam> So apt-get is scriptable and guaranteed to be?
[17:12] <tomreyn> CrazySam: run the above command and ignore anything starting from and including the ears
[17:12] <tomreyn> or horns
[17:12] <CrazySam> apt moo | cat ?
[17:14] <CrazySam> I don't know, but my understanding is that apt and apt-get are pretty much the same. I constantly find web content where people are using one or the other.
[17:14] <CrazySam> apt is to apt-get what adduser is to useradd, no?
[17:15] <CrazySam> I say get rid of it, and port whatever is missing in apt from apt-get.
[17:15] <CrazySam> Or rely on something more low level like... I don't know... dpkg? For your scripting needs?
[17:16] <tomreyn> !discuss
[17:21] <paul1us> hello all :)  I have a question regarding changing the system language on 20.04. I do not find that setting in the Language and Region. I can change between different types of English. Does anyone know how to change that?
[17:27] <tomreyn> paul1us: there's    Settings -> Region and Language (where you can both manage installed languages and preferred input source languages). there's also     sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales    and the LANG and LANGUAGE and LC_* environment variables (run "locale" ot see their settings, nothing that they can differ for the general system and your user account).
[17:27] <tomreyn> since you understand english, i'd recommend leaving the general system language set to english and just to set your users' to your primary language.
[17:28] <tomreyn> this way you can still get english language error messages in a terminal easily (which can help in support scenarios) but you got a localized GUI.
[17:30] <MannyLNJ> Am I missing the setting or is it not possible. Ubuntu 18/04 on the laptoip screen I want to have it at 200% increase and on an attached monitor I want it at 100% I can eoither set both toi 100% or both to 200% when I extend the display
[17:32] <paul1us> tomreyn thank you for the answer. it would make sense not to change the system language and only to change the primary language(I did not think of that before). the issue is that I am not able  to do so from the GUI in Region and Language. I do not see an option to install the language  or anything like that. I can do so for the keyboards but not
[17:32] <paul1us> the system/primary languages
[17:33] <paul1us> soooooory, I am not so clever...... i missed it but now I think I found it :)
[17:33] <paul1us> thank you once more for answering and for the tip about the primary language
[17:35] <tomreyn> it's not super obvious, i got puzzled initially, too.
[17:36] <tomreyn> MannyLNJ: your graphics hardware and driver are?
[17:37] <tomreyn> and graphics server (Xorg or Xwayland)? it's probably not possible, but there can be some 'hacks'.
[17:37] <tomreyn> upgrading to 20.04 may help there
[17:41] <MannyLNJ> tomreyn, It's a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 laptoipo and an Acer Monitor on HDMI. According to dmesg there is an Intel video card and a Nvidia card
[17:41] <Annigo> Hello. How to install older versions of PHP on Ubuntu 20 Focal Fossa? It comes with PHP 7.4 only, Ondřej Surý's PPA for Focal is also only 7.4.
[17:41] <Annigo> Adding his PPA for bionic (18.04 LTS) to apt sourceseems to work, but then 7.4 cannot be installed - unmet dependencies and broken packages errors show up.
[17:42] <MannyLNJ> tomreyn, I believe it is xorg
[17:46] <MannyLNJ> tomreyn, when I go into Sofytware & drivers > Additional Drivers it  shows I am using X.org X Server
[17:46] <tomreyn> MannyLNJ: if you're using the proprietary nvidia driver there then i don't know whether it's possible, my guess is not. if you're using i915 and nouveau open source drivers, then you can try the hacking with XWayland, but i would rather recommend upgrading to 20.04 then (which is not supported, yet, but possible if you supply -d to do-release-upgrade).
[17:47] <MannyLNJ> tomreyn, I will try the update to 20.04
[17:47] <econdudeawesome> Hi all. I am on Ubuntu 18.04 and am getting a weird error (https://pastebin.com/sJimkpDx) -- can't upgrade or dist upgrade. WHats going on?
[17:49] <tomreyn> econdudeawesome: this actually suggests you're on "disco"
[17:50] <tomreyn> !disco | econdudeawesome
[17:50] <tomreyn> econdudeawesome: use    lsb_release -sd   to check what you're at
[17:51] <econdudeawesome> Weird.
[17:51] <econdudeawesome> well, that could explain why I'm having issues. 19.04 is EOL then --- is there a way to upgrade out of an EOL distro?
[17:51] <econdudeawesome> !eol
[17:52] <econdudeawesome> And there it is :) THanks uboottu!
[17:52] <tomreyn> ubottu: say thanks
[17:52] <tomreyn> bad bot.
[17:54] <econdudeawesome> I <3 ubottu
[17:54] <Annigo> Hello. How to install older versions of PHP on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Focal Fossa? It comes with PHP 7.4 only, Ondřej Surý's PPA for Focal is also only 7.4. Adding his PPA for bionic (18.04 LTS) to apt sourceseems to work, but then 7.4 cannot be installed - unmet dependencies and broken packages errors show up.
[17:57] <ioria> Annigo, i see other versions  for 20.04  : am i wrong  ? https://launchpad.net/%7Eondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/+index?batch=75&memo=225&start=225
[17:58] <tomreyn> Annigo: the ppa you mention seems to provide several php packages for Ubuntu 20.04 "focal": php5.6, php7.0, php7.1, php7.2, php7.3, php7.4 - the developer who maintains and supports it also provides documentation on how to use it, as well as accepting donations and offering commercial support.
[18:02] <econdudeawesome> thanks again for the help all. Back on track.
[18:21] <Annigo> ioria & tomreyn : He provides versions that are not EOL on systems that are not EOL. Everything before PHP 7.4 was EOL at Ubuntu 20.04's release, so they are not available for it. However, for bionic (Ubuntu 18.04 LTS) versions from 5.6 to 7.4 included are available. Adding source from bionic seems to work, but I get an error when trying to install
[18:21] <Annigo> PHP 7.4 after adding the source. If I had to guess, there's some collision between Ubuntu default sources and those added
[18:22] <Annigo> Here's "apt-cache policy php7.4" result: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xX8X4ZPpdP/
[18:25] <psionikal> Greetings everyone. I'm having trouble with a simple script that toggles key repeat on and off.
[18:26] <tomreyn> Annigo: generally, PPAs are not supported here, which is why i pointed out where you can get support with this PPA. had you read their documentation you'd know you're not meant to mix ubuntu's and their php packages. apart from that you should really not mix packages from different ubuntu releases (unless you're certain it's safe and they don't introduce apt dependency issues), but even then just adding another releases' apt source without also
[18:26] <tomreyn> using apt pinning is a bad idea.
[18:26] <psionikal> I don't wanna be a nusance, but... anyone?
[18:26] <ioria> Annigo, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1231381/unable-to-install-php-7-3-on-ubuntu-20-04
[18:28] <tomreyn> Annigo: php (upstream project) no longer supports those older versions, i can't tell how well ondrej manages to provide security fixes for those. anyways, with any php packages not in the ubuntu release you're running, you're on your own (or depends on 3rd parties to support you).
[18:28] <tomreyn> psionikal: with scripting, the best place to ask is usually on the specific support channel for the scripting language in use.
[18:28] <ioria> Annigo, have you run  apt update && apt full-upgarde ?
[18:29] <tomreyn> psionikal: but then, too, you'll need to explain what the problem is.
[18:29] <tomreyn> psionikal: that is, in code.
[18:31] <psionikal> tomreyn: Which channel would that be?
[18:31] <i7ch> hey guys. trying to upgrade my 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS (xubuntu), but somehow "# do-release-upgrade" tells me there is no available LTS ?
[18:31] <Annigo> tomreyn: I know they are not supported, pointed that out. Ondrej doesn't support EOL versions either. Question was how to install older version and what I tried. :)  Those are for dev env, PHP doesn't follow sem-ver so there may be incompabilities between minor versions
[18:31] <jmgb4> anybody know what ppa I need installed to get libleveldb1v5 on 20.04?
[18:31] <Annigo> ioria: I tried only apt update, but the system was fully updated on release. Let me try
[18:32] <ioria> Annigo, the answer is from 14 hours ago
[18:32] <dreamcat4> hello it always annoys me that when upgrading all my 3rd part apt sources get disabled. can anybody here suggest a script that actively probes for the latest distro tag name for each source and updates my /etc/apt/ folder accordingly? surely it just requires some probing using curl etc.
[18:32] <ioria> psionikal, what are you susing xset r off / on ?
[18:33] <jatt> {Uptime} [20:33:14 up 5:43, 0 users] {Load average} [0.17, 0.26, 0.17]
[18:33] <psionikal> ioria:Right now it's off.
[18:34] <dreamcat4> for example if an apt sources file contains a line with the keyword 'eoan' (for 19.10), then replace that with 'focal' in the URL, check the return code, and increment to the latest available distro name accordingly
[18:34] <tomreyn> i7ch: what it tells you is correct, there's no supported upgrade path at this time. there probably will be soon after 20.04.1 releases
[18:35] <i7ch> hmm. 20.04 is not a LTS then?
[18:35] <i7ch> cuz it say so on their website
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: ask yourself whats important for your system
[18:36] <psionikal> i7ch: LTS releases are pitched every 2 years.
[18:36] <psionikal> I'm pretty sure they are?
[18:36] <StevenJayCohen> <i7ch "hey guys. trying to upgrade my 1"> It won't alert you until 20.04.1 is out. You can manually upgrade now though
[18:36] <Annigo> ioria: Interesting, the PPA author did indeed add all those versions, which is against what he claims on the page, and against what was available just recently
[18:37] <ioria> Annigo, sounds good
[18:37] <i7ch> @StevenJayCohen, im trying to upgrade from 18.04.04
[18:37] <psionikal> ioria: Any help with my script?
[18:37] <Annigo> Guess Im in "luck". Nonetheless, what should I do if I need older version of something that is not available for specific OS release? Such knowledge may help
[18:37] <ioria> psionikal, what is bash ?
[18:38] <psionikal> Fine fine.
[18:38] <ioria> psionikal, no, i mean what kind of script ?
[18:38] <i7ch> i mean .. what I am missing? isn't the upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 justifiable?
[18:38] <psionikal> Oh, my apologies.
[18:38] <psionikal> It's an sh.
[18:39] <ioria> psionikal, dash ; can you paste it ?
[18:39] <ioria> brb
[18:39] <tomreyn> !paste | psionikal
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: what kind of system do you want?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: do you want stable, do you want early daily driver?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: personal use? production? developing?
[18:41] <i7ch> @lotuspsychje, if what you're lookin for is "stable", then yes, of course.
[18:41] <pa> hi, what would be the "eoan-proposed" that the last message mentions? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1848921
[18:41] <i7ch> shall i understand that 20.04 is not stable enough to be considered LTS?
[18:42] <psionikal> Okay, I made my paste. Do I just post the link? If so then I guess this can go here. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Pzvj9YSWzD/
[18:42] <ducasse> !ltsupgrade | i7ch
[18:42] <i7ch> aha
[18:42] <i7ch> thanks @ducasse
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> i7ch: 20.04 is an LTS, but when you dont want to interfere with the first months of more bug fixes, we reccomend to await 20.04.1
[18:42] <i7ch> that was what I was looking for
[18:43] <i7ch> got it now :)
[18:43] <ioria> psionikal, first use #!/bin/bash  not /bin/sh
[18:43] <i7ch> i thought there might be something wrong on my part for not finding any LTS release
[18:44] <jmgb4> Stupid thing... why was libleveldb1v5 remove in 20.04
[18:44] <ioria> psionikal, the 2° line i guess is wrong
[18:44] <Annigo> ioria: In speak of this, should script files have .sh extension if they have #!/bin/bash inside?
[18:44] <pa> crazy that intel wifi is broken..
[18:44] <ioria> Annigo, nope, it's aconvention
[18:44] <ioria> *convention
[18:45] <Annigo> I mean I know the extension can be any or none, but the convention is "sh" or should be something else specifically for bash?
[18:46] <ioria> Annigo, sh is ok
[18:46] <Annigo> Alrighty, thanks
[18:46] <tomreyn> !discuss | jmgb4
[18:47] <jmgb4> tomreyn, looking to get it back, so thats a question ;)
[18:47] <ioria> Annigo,  if [[  $(xset r) = "off"  ]]
[18:47] <Annigo> I think the ping wasn't meant for me
[18:47] <jmgb4> tomreyn, can find a ppa or way to bring it back in though
[18:48] <Annigo> @ psionikal probably
[18:48] <tomreyn> !proposed | pa
[18:49] <tomreyn> jmgb4: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libleveldb&searchon=names&suite=focal&section=all
[18:49] <tarelerulz> my bluetooth does not work, It ask for the pin , says connected  blue the light flashes on the ps4 controller . What do you look for going about fix bluetooth? how find out , the usb  bluetooth device nice?
[18:49] <tarelerulz> name
[18:49] <kzar> Is it expected that Ubuntu 20.04 on a laptop doesn't suspend when the laptop's lid is closed?
[18:50] <jmgb4> tomreyn, ok?
[18:50] <StevenJayCohen> kzar: Install Gnome Tweaks, that can be changed there
[18:50] <kzar> StevenJayCohen: OK, but what's the expected default behaviour?
[18:50] <tomreyn> kzar: probably not expected. may be an acpi / firmware issue. you can configure it in /etc/systemd/logind.conf - see the logind.conf man page.
[18:51] <tomreyn> jmgb4: that's what's available on focal, nothing else at this time. PPAs aren't supported here but there's a search you can use if you haven't.
[18:51] <tomreyn> !ppa | jmgb4
[18:52] <jmgb4> tomreyn, and back to what I said before, cant seem to find one that actually has it
[18:52] <ioria> psionikal,   if [[  $(xset r) = "off"  ]]
[18:52] <kzar> tomreyn: Yea, I see "#HandleLidSwitch=suspend" which I considered commenting there. But then I thought, perhaps this is expected or that Ubuntu is set up to suspend differently. Figured I should understand what the expected behaviour was before I started messing with stuff
[18:53] <kzar> uncommenting*
[18:53] <tomreyn> jmgb4: maybe the real question you need to ask is "why do i depend on this library and specific version of it, and should i?"
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: are you using stock gnome's bluetooth or blueman?
[18:54] <tomreyn> kzar: no problem, the defaults are discussed on the man page.
[18:54] <jeblad> I have a problem with sound and Bluetooth. It seems like the dongle use a bit to much current, and stops working. Rather fast it restarts, but pulseaudio and ALSA does not recover. Trying to kill pulseadio and force a reload of ALSA does not help. Any idea?
[18:54] <jmgb4> tomreyn, Nah because I already know why I need that library, and why I need that version.
[18:54] <tomreyn> jmgb4: very well. good luck then.
[18:54] <tarelerulz> lots how do you know?
[18:54] <kzar> tomreyn: logind's default are not necessarily Ubuntu's
[18:55] <jmgb4> tomreyn, lol so you didnt have an answer for any of the questions? awesome. Not very fun or nice to troll
[18:55] <tomreyn> kzar: Ubuntu's man pages are not necessarily upstream's
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: apt policy blueman
[18:56] <tomreyn> jmgb4: i didn't troll, amongst other i pointed out what you can get support with here (and what not).
[18:56] <tarelerulz> is the a gui lots?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> !info blueman | tarelerulz
[18:57] <jmgb4> tomreyn, So where did you say that library isnt supported? I must have missed it, please show me ;)
[18:58] <tomreyn> jmgb4: you can re-read what i wrote, then you'll see. also, i'm a volunteer, like most here. i will help where i can or feel like. i no longer feel like in your case. good luck!
[18:59] <jmgb4> tomreyn, Dont hurt yourself now.
[18:59] <psionikal> I'm back people. I tried to make fixes to my code, added some vars, using shellcheck. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sRdJdvqrNn/
[18:59] <tomreyn> kzar: but right, you have a point. purging and reinstalling would restore default configurations (but i assume you're aware of this - let me know if not so)
[19:00] <tarelerulz> lotus, I do have that app
[19:02] <tarelerulz> hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd failed with error  that is what I get with dmesg | grep -i blue
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: wich kernel are you on?
[19:03] <tarelerulz> 4.19.0-6-amd64
[19:03] <xplx> `back
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: lsb_release -a ?
[19:04] <xplx> anyone good with iptables?
[19:04] <tarelerulz> No LSB modules are available.Distributor ID:	DebianDescription:	Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)Release:	10Codename:	buster
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: /join #debian please
[19:05] <tomreyn> tarelerulz: or the channel of the debian derivate (that is not ubuntu) which you installed.
[19:05] <tarelerulz> yes, Sorry on MX , I thought maybe it was close enough
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> good luck tarelerulz
[19:06] <tarelerulz> being truthful , How do you even find out what hardware is the bluetooth. I have usb bluetooth?
[19:07] <tarelerulz> There is a lot of basic to bluetooth I have no idea where you even start
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> tarelerulz: please join the proper channel for your operating system to continue support
[19:07] <tomreyn> tarelerulz: we'll be happy to support your use of ubuntu here when you run ubuntu
[19:07] <tarelerulz> Oh I have the same problem in Ubuntu as well
[19:08] <tarelerulz> anyways thanks
[19:08] <tarelerulz> I will be back
[19:10] <ioria> !info libleveldb1d | jmgb4
[19:11] <jmgb4> ioria, ?
[19:11] <jmgb4> ioria, Still looking for a ppa that has 1.5
[19:11] <ioria> jmgb4, ah, i see
[19:11] <jmgb4> ioria, It seems 18.04 has it.. same with 16.x... non existant in 20.04 though
[19:12] <ioria> yep
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> xplx: ##netfilter you can try
[19:12] <jmgb4> ioria, There should be a ppa out there or a way to add the repo for 18.04 and grab it. Been looking for about two horus now and ready to give up.
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> #netfilter sorry
[19:12] <tarelerulz> I'm back, What are the basics of Bluetooth? How do you find out what hardware you using , firmware  and the between software?
[19:14] <ioria> jmgb4, the 18.04 ver should works ( is should not say that)
[19:14] <jmgb4> ioria, Yeah. Need ot find out how to add that ppa is all.
[19:15] <ioria> jmgb4, nope ... i'am afraid you have to edit sources.list ; add the bionic main repo and install .... sigh
[19:15] <jeblad> Any idea?
[19:15] <jmgb4> ioria, Ill figure it out. Or just roll to another distro, not a big deal. This is all in esxi so its pretty easy to spin up another instance
[19:15] <ioria> jmgb4, ok
[19:16] <jmgb4> ioria, Dont want to but... \o/
[19:20] <tarelerulz> I use bluetoothctl ,  the controller shows up , I get the mac but when I select the mac , it says not there
[19:33] <tarelerulz> ps4 controller says pair and then it turns off
[19:35] <doebi> i recently upgraded my ubuntu and now my chromium is all wavy and broken. I did some research an apparently its due to the snap version. How can i get rid of that snap shit and get my real chromium back? its a real deal breaker. sigh.
[19:36] <klaasvakie> Hi, I have recently started playing with various snap packages in preparation for rolling out some select systems on 20.04. I have read https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date and I think the hold timers are sufficient for my use cases. One thing I can't find in the docs is how do I get notified when a new snap is available? Looks like "snap changes" and friends only  help you after the update
[19:36] <ducasse> doebi: chromium is only available as a snap now, no supported way to get an apt package
[19:38] <jeblad>  Assume nobody knows.
[19:38] <fks> can anybody signup successfuly on https://www.subway.com/en-us/subwaycard  using "firefox browser"  (you can just put 555-555-555 as phone # and use fakeemail@gmail.com)
[19:38] <pa> tomreyn, how do i enable proposed?
[19:39] <tomreyn> pa: did you read the article ubottu pointed oyu to?
[19:39] <doebi> the drawbacks of that chromium version are really no minors. history broken, various modern apps wont even start claiming my browser is not supported, generally slower in connection establishment and pageload
[19:40] <doebi> google's chrome doesn't have these drawbacks. so an open-source project forces me to use the commercial counterpart of another os project.
[19:40] <pa> well, yes, but i don't understand which of them are proposed
[19:40] <pa> pre-release?
[19:40] <ducasse> doebi: consider trying brave, they have a third party repo
[19:41] <fks> can anybody signup successfuly on https://www.subway.com/en-us/subwaycard  using "firefox browser"  (you can just put 555-555-555 as phone # and use fakeemail@gmail.com and use fake name)
[19:41] <Walex> fks: there are several sites where their JavaScript works only with Chromium-derived web engines...
[19:42] <fks> what is the name of "chromium web engine"
[19:42] <Walex> fks: also your question about web sites is not on topic here
[19:44] <Walex> fks: Blink, which is a derivative of WebKit
[19:44] <fks> i see
[19:44] <fks> who invented webkit?
[19:45] <pa> ok i found
[19:45] <Walex> fks: Wikipedia has details about all those.
[19:45] <pa> sadly there was no iwlwifi among hte update :/
[19:46] <fks> is it true that  edge and safari also now use "blink"?
[19:47] <Walex> sort of, and many sites are designed needlessly to depend on particular features of Blink.
[19:47] <Walex> fks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_engines
[19:48] <xplx> is it possible to run animated wallpapers on 20.04 ?
[19:51] <Walex> xplx: I guess yes if they are in SVG.
[19:51] <xplx> i'm not so advanced, what os SVG?
[19:51] <Walex> xplx: unless you mean programs that update the "root window", and that depends probably on whether your use Wayland or Xorg and which desktop environment
[19:55] <xplx> Walex  something like this https://www.desktophut.com/neon-flowers-animation-live-wallpaper/
[20:05] <Walex> xplx: most likely you are using GNOME 3 and it has animated wallpapers for GNOME Shell in GNOME-look.com or else look at this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/07/animated-wallpaper-background-ubuntu-18-04/
[20:05] <tarelerulz> BCM920702 Bluetooth 4.0 , it says to have the firmware BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd , it connects and pairs ect but it turns off and does odd things like saying pairing on the gui
[20:08] <raccoon34> hi, could somebody help me in apparmor related things
[20:08] <xplx> komorebi is not maintenaid anymore, last commit was in 2018
[20:09] <LongLiveCHIEF> i'm using the disks application to restore image to a usb disk.  For some reason, after it's done writing image to the usb disk, The files finder shows the two partitions, but I can't see the mount.... until i actually click on the partition name in files finder
[20:10] <devslash> I updated by ubuntu desktop install from 18.04 to 19.10 and now it hangs at a blank purple screen at boot up
[20:10] <LongLiveCHIEF> (same behavior if using dd)
[20:10] <raccoon34> can somebody give an answer for that question why apparmor/snapd restrictions don't work with ubuntu-paa mainline kernels?
[20:11] <LongLiveCHIEF> why would files app show the disk as mounted when it's not mounted (and lsblk still shows it as removable)
[20:11] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: i had the same issue, I think I changed one setting in grub and it fixed it
[20:12] <devslash> what did you change
[20:12] <ducasse> raccoon34: the mainline kernels don't have the ubuntu patches
[20:12] <LongLiveCHIEF> or might have been a canberra thing?  can't remember
[20:12] <flyback> ok on 2 seperate ystems now
[20:13] <flyback> ubuntu server 18.04 and 20.04 have both decided the box uses uefi which is not even close to true
[20:13] <flyback> too old
[20:13] <flyback> is there a boot option to override that
[20:13] <devslash> LongLiveCHIEF, how did you fix it
[20:14] <LongLiveCHIEF> i'm trying to remember. it was a year ago
[20:15] <LongLiveCHIEF> I do remember that I googled it, and the first result was the solution
[20:15] <raccoon34> ducasse, can I solve this with an own compiled kernel?
[20:15] <LongLiveCHIEF> 😏
[20:16] <ducasse> raccoon34: if you apply the necessary patches
[20:16] <raccoon34> ducasse: should I download those separately or just enable in menuconfig?
[20:17] <LongLiveCHIEF> now i remember... it was gdm
[20:17] <EriC^^> flyback: maybe the bios is booting the live usb in uefi mode
[20:17] <flyback> how do I tell the livecd which mode to boot
[20:17] <ducasse> raccoon34: you'd need to get them separately
[20:18] <tomreyn> flyback: you don't , you instruct your mainboard firmware to boot in a specific mode (uefi/legacy bios) if it support both.
[20:18] <EriC^^> flyback: that totally depends on the bios, but i think there should be some method to let the installer refrain from installing a bootloader, that way you could manually partition and later chroot and install grub-pc
[20:19] <flyback> dude
[20:19] <flyback> I know for a fact the poweredges are both pre efi\
[20:19] <raccoon34> ducasse: thanks for the answers. Could you tell me where can these patches be found?
[20:20] <flyback> ive installed legacy before
[20:20] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: stop gdm sudo service gdm stop. then edit `/etc/default/grub` and change `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash text", and then update grub with sudo update-grub
[20:20] <flyback> it's the installer that is guessing wrong
[20:20] <flyback> 16.04 was fine
[20:20] <devslash> ah ok thanks
[20:20] <ducasse> raccoon34: get the ubuntu kernel source package, they should be there
[20:20] <EriC^^> flyback: is it a server iso or a normal desktop one?
[20:21] <flyback> it's the server legacy one
[20:21] <flyback> it's possible the issue is rufus made the usb wrong
[20:21] <EriC^^> flyback: as i pointed out, there should be a method to instruct the installer not to do the last step of installing the bootloader, in the normal installer it's by launching it with "ubiquity -b" for instance
[20:21] <flyback> oh I missed that line thx
[20:21] <EriC^^> flyback: i dont think it has to do with rufus
[20:21] <raccoon34> ducasse: arent those older than ver 5.5?
[20:22] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: iirc it had soemthing to do with the upgrade not configuring the correct display manger
[20:22] <EriC^^> flyback: who knows though, it's worth a try i guess
[20:22] <ducasse> raccoon34: yes, but the patches might still work, or you'll need to make them work
[20:23] <shinobi> The 20.04 live usb is not installing grub correctly on install. I just get a grub prompt. How do I correct this?
[20:23] <flyback> yep
[20:23] <flyback> it did it on a old laptop too
[20:23] <flyback> it's defintely something amiss in the installer
[20:24] <devslash> LongLiveCHIEF, i cant boot my pc so i dont know how i can do that
[20:24] <flyback> rusfus unpacks the iso etc and asks you if you want it for uefi or legacy or both
[20:24] <flyback> I think it's flipping a flag somewhere wrong
[20:25] <flyback> ill figure it out
[20:26] <EriC^^> flyback: i think if it was only providing uefi mode, it wouldnt boot cause you said your bios is pre-efi
[20:26] <shinobi> flyback: I can boot the live CD but when I use it to install 20.04 onto the hdd, it doesn't install grub correctly and when I try to boot the system I just get the grub prompt.
[20:26] <ducasse> raccoon34: the patches don't exist yet for later kernels, so it's the best you'll get
[20:26] <shinobi> By CD, I mean a usb stick lol
[20:26] <flyback> yeah that's the same failure
[20:26] <flyback> grub fail
[20:26] <EriC^^> i could be wrong though, i dunno if rufus actually would alter anything in the iso's kernel line or something, that'd be odd but *shrug*
[20:27] <flyback> now it worked on the poweredge sc1430 cause that might have uefi but the 840 defintely does not
[20:27] <devslash> i tried adding init=/bin/bash and systemd.unit=restore.target to the end of the line starting with linux in grub
[20:27] <LongLiveCHIEF> <devslash "longlivechief, i cant boot my pc"> boot from usb
[20:28] <devslash> i dont have one
[20:29] <raccoon34> ducasse: thanks, this is a good start(ing) point. I have a compisitor-gpu-kwin related suspend-resume freeze what I try to solve somehow. > 5.5 kernel would be a good solution. I even tried to disable kwin composition in a systemdl shell script but I can't execute dbus commands for my user properly.
[20:31] <EriC^^> shinobi: do you get a grub> or grub rescue> prompt?
[20:32] <shinobi> So do I add that init line above to get to the OS
[20:32] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: hold shift when grub is starting
[20:32] <EriC^^> flyback: i'd try setting the rufus program to just make the iso legacy bootable and see if that helps, but likely you're going to have to see how you can disable the bootloader in the installation i think
[20:32] <shinobi> grub>
[20:32] <devslash> what dpes that dp
[20:32] <EriC^^> shinobi: aha, try typing "insmod normal" then "normal" and see if it helps
[20:32] <devslash> i already get the grub prompt
[20:32] <flyback> yeah it's fine I will work it out, don't worry about it
[20:32] <devslash> with ubuntu and windows
[20:33] <LongLiveCHIEF> press e to edit grub config
[20:33] <devslash> yea
[20:33] <devslash> thats what i did earlier
[20:33] <devslash> and i added init=/bin/bash to the end of the linux line
[20:33] <devslash> riught ?
[20:34] <EriC^^> what are you trying to do devslash ?
[20:34] <devslash> recover ubuntu
[20:34] <devslash> it wont boot after an upgrade
[20:34] <EriC^^> from what?
[20:34] <shinobi> EriC^^: There was no output from those commands. Do I just try and reboot now?
[20:34] <devslash> just gets a purple blank screen
[20:34] <EriC^^> shinobi: no, try typing "echo $prefix" and "echo $root" and see what it says
[20:35] <EriC^^> devslash: try to boot without "quiet splash" and put "verbose" instead and see if it says where it hangs
[20:35] <devslash> huh so i added rw init=/bin/bash and i get a kernel panic that it cant find the root device
[20:35] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: find the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and edit the value to be "quiet splash text"
[20:35] <devslash> i tried text that didnt make a difference
[20:36] <EriC^^> devslash: or better yet with "debug ignore_loglevel"
[20:36] <flyback> going to try deleting the efi folder on the stick
[20:36] <devslash> nbothing seems to work
[20:37] <shinobi> (hd3,gpt1)/boot/grub  and hd3,gpt1 respectively
[20:37] <shinobi> EriC^^
[20:37] <EriC^^> shinobi: that seems sane, what does "ls /boot/grub" show?
[20:37] <raccoon34> ducasse: /or anybody else: any idea how can I run this properly from a pre-suspend shell script? sudo -u user DISPLAY=:0  qdbus org.kde.KWin /Compositor suspend
[20:37] <EriC^^> any grub.cfg?
[20:37] <tarelerulz> my controllar for the ps4 is light blue light run the command bluetoothctl and info mac and its say paired trusted
[20:37] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: well once you've configured everything, then just run sudo sysstemctl start gdm3 to launch the gui
[20:37] <tarelerulz> yes nothing uses it
[20:38] <devslash> LongLiveCHIEF, not possible
[20:38] <devslash> my system wont boot
[20:38] <shinobi> Eric^^    error: file `/boot/grub` not found.
[20:39] <EriC^^> shinobi: ah, what about "ls /" does it show a linux root fs?
[20:39] <flyback> yeah I think when rufus modified the installer
[20:39] <shinobi> efi/ System Volume Information/ $recycle.bin
[20:39] <LongLiveCHIEF> actually it is booting, it's just not booting into your display manager becasuse you set it to boot into a shell with that whole init=/bin/bash change
[20:40] <flyback> it's creating a situation where the automatic selection for legacy vs efi is getting mangled
[20:40] <EriC^^> shinobi: ah it seems confused about the rootfs, that's the efi partition
[20:40] <EriC^^> shinobi: try typing "ls -l" and see if it lists all the filesystems
[20:41] <shinobi> error: invalid file name `-l'.
[20:41] <EriC^^> flyback: could be, if you can write the iso in a raw way that'd be pretty good, like how linux has "dd"
[20:41] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, try "ls"
[20:42] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: so you need to make sure display manager is configured properly, then run a sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 (which will give an error because gdm3 isn't currently running), and then poweroff/poweron, which should cause it to boot correctly into gdm
[20:42] <flyback> yes but there's an issue with that
[20:42] <flyback> I need to modify it slightely to do install over serial
[20:42] <mmx_in_orbit> can y'all help me getting a job in CLI to continue running after a CTRL+Z
[20:43] <shinobi> It just lists all the block devices and paritions in the system. (There are quite a few.)
[20:43] <flyback> the dd mode is isofs which is a read only fs
[20:43] <mmx_in_orbit> i tried bg but jobs says ''Stopped''
[20:43] <mmx_in_orbit> for the job
[20:43] <devslash> LongLiveCHIEF, i dont undserstand
[20:44] <devslash> how can i do that when my pc doesnt boot in the first place
[20:45] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, how many hd3,gpt ones? you basically want to find the rootfs
[20:45] <EriC^^> shinobi: "ls (hd3,gpt1)/" should list the first one's contents
[20:45] <EriC^^> shinobi: you want to keep going til you find the linux one
[20:45] <shinobi> 7
[20:46] <shinobi> ah ok
[20:46] <LongLiveCHIEF> devslash: when you press the power button, do you get an error that says: Can not find boot medium?
[20:46] <devslash> no
[20:47] <devslash> i get a grub prompt
[20:47] <LongLiveCHIEF> then it's booting
[20:47] <devslash> i select windows
[20:47] <devslash> err linux
[20:47] <devslash> then i get a purple screen
[20:47] <devslash> thats it so no it doesnt boot
[20:47] <shinobi> Eric^^ unknown filesystem
[20:47] <shinobi> hmmm
[20:47] <LongLiveCHIEF> it's booting, it's just starting up the way you want it to
[20:47] <LongLiveCHIEF> there's a difference
[20:48] <shinobi> 20.04 is still defaulting to ext4 for / partition, correct?
[20:48] <LongLiveCHIEF> not starting up the way you want it to
[20:48] <EriC^^> shinobi: yeah
[20:49] <flyback> if this works I will have to email the author of rufus
[20:49] <devslash> i got into a bash prompt
[20:50] <devslash> mounted the root fs
[20:50] <devslash> tried doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 and i get an error gdm3 is broken or not instaled
[20:50] <devslash> is that what you meant about the error ?
[20:51] <LongLiveCHIEF> no, it would be slightly different error I think
[20:51] <LongLiveCHIEF> try installing it with apt
[20:51] <devslash> shit
[20:51] <devslash> time to reinstall i guess
[20:52] <devslash> i dont know what else to do
[20:52] <devslash> i dont think it can be fixed
[20:54] <EriC^^> shinobi: any luck?
[20:56] <flyback> EriC^^, thing  is on the 2 boxes without uefi but basic sata drives, even setting up for uefi still booted fine
[20:56] <flyback> but this one has drives attached to sas controller and grub didn't like that
[20:57] <EriC^^> how's it failing? in the installer it says there must be a efi partition?
[20:59] <devslash> nothing works
[20:59] <devslash> why are ubuntu upgrades so damned buggy
[21:00] <timypcr> question if I want to output a command to text I would just run command >> output.txt and if I ran the same command it would append the second output to the same file. What if I wanted to add a few spaces between the first output and the second output, what would I do?
[21:02] <cyveris> devslash: Do you have a specific issue that you want to troubleshoot?
[21:02] <EriC^^> timypcr: im assuming you mean newlines?
[21:03] <felco> timypcr this question depends on the shell you are using... you may have a better chance in the #bash channel
[21:03] <devslash> cyveris, yea i upgraded ubuntu from 18.04 to 19.04 andf now i get a purple screen at boot and thats it
[21:04] <devslash> and i cant seem to recover it
[21:04] <timypcr> i'm using /bin/bash
[21:04] <devslash> im about to wipe it clean and start over cause i dont think that theres anything i can do
[21:04] <timypcr> but I'll check out that channel
[21:05] <shinobi> Eric^^ No luck yet. I don't know what to do with the invalid filesystem
[21:05] <timypcr> Eric^^ yes I mean newlines
[21:05] <EriC^^> shinobi: gpt1,2,4,5,6,7 all invalid?
[21:05] <devslash> do you know of anything else i can try before i srart a new instllation
[21:06] <timypcr> i've posted in #bash but if anyone here happens to know feel free to post
[21:06] <EriC^^> timypcr: you could do command >> /file; echo -e "\n" >> /file; command2 >> /file, btw if you also want any errors or std error to be outputted there you'd need to do ">> /file 2>&1"
[21:06] <shinobi> My bad. I didn't realize you wanted me to try them all
[21:07] <EriC^^> timypcr: if you want multiple newlines you could do echo -e "\n\n..." >>
[21:08] <devslash> does anyone else knoe ehat can be done
[21:09] <EriC^^> devslash: try to determine what the problem is, try booting without quiet splash and with "debug ignore_loglevel" instead
[21:09] <devslash> i did
[21:09] <devslash> gets a kernel panic
[21:09] <devslash> cant find root fs but its there i can see it at the grub command prompt
[21:10] <EriC^^> devslash: ok, try to add a rootdelay=40 to the kernel line see if it helps at all
[21:11] <EriC^^> devslash: make sure everything is in order in fstab too, uuid's match and all
[21:11] <MikeRL> Hmm. I've already installed Ubuntu 20.04 and customized it. Have backups. What is the optimal way to encrypt it alongside Windows 10? I do not want Windows 10 encrypted, it's slower in my experience even without encryption.
[21:11] <shinobi> EirC^^ hd3,gtp7
[21:11] <EriC^^> although i think fstab is used later in the process, i dunno
[21:11] <MikeRL> I know of full disk encryption at setup, but I don't wanna lose all my data.
[21:12] <blurkis> devslash: have you tried a different kernel?
[21:12] <MannyLNJ> Ubuntu 20.04 When I do sdu adb devices  I get the message List of devices attached below that it says 0123456789ABCDEF	no permissions (user in plugdev group; are your udev rules wrong?); see [http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html] according to groups I am in plugdev  emanuel : emanuel adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare  assistance is appreciated
[21:12] <devslash> yes i have burkis
[21:12] <EriC^^> shinobi: great, try "set root=(hd3,gpt7)"
[21:13] <EriC^^> shinobi: then set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub'
[21:13] <MikeRL> I also have several full partition backups on an external HD. If I did a full disk encrypt, can I restore the partition on top of the new encrypted one?
[21:13] <MikeRL> I would assume not, but I'm not sure.
[21:13] <EriC^^> shinobi: finally, type "configfile $prefix/grub.cfg" hopefully a menu appears
[21:16] <MikeRL> And if I cannot restore a partition image, can I just use rsync to copy the files manually and overwrite them from live install media? Keeping weeks of customization is important.
[21:16] <shinobi> Eric^^ It just gave me the prompt back. Should I modify the prefix to be ($root)'boot/efi/grub'
[21:17] <devslash> time to install windows
[21:17] <devslash> this is fcking rediculous
[21:17] <EriC^^> shinobi: no, please try "ls /boot/" does it show files and dirs?
[21:17] <devslash> every time i uograde ubuntu thres always something
[21:18] <DocPlatypus> okay. still trying to figure out my sound and NetworkManager issues after upgrading to 20.04. just made a 20.04 install disk and I'm not having the same issues there (something really goes sideways when I have an external monitor plugged in with the install disk but that's another story, not what I'm trying to fix at the moment)
[21:19] <shinobi> file `/boot/efi/grub/x86_64-efi/ls.mod' not found.
[21:19] <DocPlatypus> does it matter that this install has been upgraded from 14.04 and 16.04 in the past as well?
[21:23] <DocPlatypus> also what I have found so far: sox doesn't want to play files even when trying to bypass pulseaudio
[21:23] <DocPlatypus> so it is not strictly a pulseaudio issue either
[21:27] <DocPlatypus> going to try to do a complete reinstall of NetworkManager to see if that helps that issue
[21:27] <flyback> if this doesn't work I am going to just reinstall 16.04 then run sysupgrade
[21:29] <flyback> not worth the aggorvation trying to solve a installer issue on a box designed to just image a bunch of old hard drives
[21:29] <flyback> and then be retired
[21:29] <EriC^^> shinobi: do you still have the live usb of ubuntu? we could boot that and fix it from there
[21:30] <shinobi> Eric: yes
[21:30] <shinobi> I'll boot it
[21:30] <DocPlatypus> okay, I may have fixed the NetworkManager issue
[21:30] <MannyLNJ> Ubuntu 20.04 When I do sdu adb devices  I get the message List of devices attached below that it says 0123456789ABCDEF	no permissions (user in plugdev group; are your udev rules wrong?); see [http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html] according to groups I am in plugdev  emanuel : emanuel adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare  assistance is appreciated
[21:34] <oerheks> MannyLNJ, no need for sudo,  i guess?
[21:34] <oerheks> just 'adb devices' should work  as you are member of the plugdev group
[21:35] <MannyLNJ> oerheks, my error in the postinmg I am doing sudo adb devices when I get that error
[21:36] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, let me know once it's up and running
[21:36] <oerheks> and? try without sudo?
[21:36] <MannyLNJ> oerheks, No change. Same error
[21:37] <oerheks> check that debugging via USB is on?
[21:37] <shinobi> Eric^^ It's up
[21:38] <MannyLNJ> oerheks, can't access USB debugging on the device because it's not fully working. I was not getting this error messge earlier today before I uppraded to 20.04 to resolve a different issue
[21:39] <oerheks> MannyLNJ, err the android is not fully working, so you cannot set usb debugging?
[21:39] <MannyLNJ> oerheks, correct. It's an old kindle that lost most of this partitons. It does boot into TWRP
[21:40] <oerheks> oh, good luck.
[21:40] <oerheks> not an ubuntu issue then..
[21:40] <shinobi> EriC^^ should I mount the root filesystem from the live USB?
[21:42] <EriC^^> shinobi: yeah, mount it under /mnt
[21:42] <shinobi> Eric^^ done. CHroot in?
[21:42] <MannyLNJ> oerheks, before I did the system upgrade adb devices was working fine.  Dmesg does show the kindle as a USB storage device
[21:43] <MannyLNJ> before I try anything else I'm going to boot into my other OS
[21:44] <EriC^^> shinobi: yes, mount bind /proc /sys /dev /dev/pts and /run too
[21:44] <oerheks> did you try adb kill-server and start it up again;~$ adb start-server
[21:45] <flyback> worked
[21:45] <flyback> pull the other sas channel
[21:46] <flyback> so the only disk is the boot one
[21:46] <flyback> so the efi goof is not the show stopper
[21:46] <flyback> multiple disks was
[21:46] <flyback> easy enough to just disconnect one channel when doing install
[21:47] <EriC^^> flyback: ah great, good job!
[21:47] <flyback> yeah it's a pain but it's worth it
[21:47] <flyback> this is a project 20 yrs in the making
[21:47] <flyback> trying to recovery lost bbs and irc logs
[21:47] <flyback> from old hd's I kept around
[21:47] <shinobi> EriC^^ special device bind does not exist
[21:47] <flyback> these poweredge 840 and sc1430 have well tested sata and pata channels an ecc memory which is critical for this
[21:48] <flyback> so even though it's taken over a  year to work out hw bugs worth it
[21:48] <EriC^^> shinobi: try "for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done"
[21:48] <flyback> since I decided to upgrade to 20.04 since I erased the internal disks because it had been crashed enough I didn't trust the existing fs
[21:48] <flyback> resolved the crash issues
[21:48] <flyback> literally wore out the molex plugs from swapping so many hd's
[21:49] <shinobi> EriC^^ Is that from the chroot jail?
[21:49] <EriC^^> shinobi: no, outside
[21:50] <EriC^^> flyback: ah great, i've yet to test 20.04, hope it's good!
[21:50] <flyback> yeah it seems to be so far
[21:50] <flyback> I had to use 16.04 because one of the two data recvoery boxes used to be 32 bit only
[21:50] <flyback> that's gone
[21:51] <shinobi> Eric^^ OK. no output
[21:51] <flyback> also a filesystem damage scan tool would only run up to 16.04
[21:51] <flyback> I can put that in a vm so it's fine
[21:51] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, chroot in, then type "mount -a"
[21:51] <shinobi> Eric^^ OK
[21:52] <EriC^^> shinobi: type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" paste the link here
[21:52] <flyback> yeah she booted, she's good
[21:52] <flyback> ive imaged 50 out of 200 hd's so far
[21:52] <flyback> I think I got 15 that are totally unreadable but I think I can 1/2 that for sure
[21:53] <shinobi> https://termbin.com/kn26
[21:53] <flyback> because I just imaaged identiical drives I can use for doner parts
[21:53] <flyback> once I confirm they are properly imaged
[21:53] <flyback> then I can get the broken ones running long enough to image
[21:53] <EriC^^> shinobi: that all looks good til now, what about "cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:54] <EriC^^> that's the file that is supposed to set the proper root and prefix
[21:54] <EriC^^> (to later find and launch /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[21:55] <flyback> it's damn annoying it still does a fat32 partition for uefi install which doesn't even exist
[21:56] <shinobi> https://termbin.com/5aan
[21:56] <EriC^^> shinobi: i have a hunch that it might be booting in legacy mode somehow and not using the efi file, i recall one user having a similar problem and we ended up zapping his protective mbr i think to get his bios to finally boot right
[21:57] <flyback> may just attach a monitor to the damn thing and do a local install and avoid the installer confusion
[21:57] <p0indexter> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:57] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, lastly, type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" and "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:58] <shinobi> Eric^^ Wasn't it on hd3 not hd5?
[21:58] <EriC^^> shinobi: yeah, it was
[21:59] <shinobi> Eric^^ OK I changed it. Reboot?
[21:59] <EriC^^> also what's more or less pointing in that direction is the fact that 'ls -l' didn't work, iirc the uefi grub has that feature whereas legacy grub doesn't but i'm not 100% certain
[22:00] <shinobi> Hmm I have legacy mode disabled
[22:00] <EriC^^> shinobi: no, run the commands first, then we'll reinstall grub
[22:00] <EriC^^> shinobi: he also did, we couldnt disable it from the bios from some reason
[22:00] <shinobi> Oh didn't see those
[22:01] <EriC^^> i think he had an mbr previously and converted to gpt, and it kept the mbr grub there
[22:01] <EriC^^> and his bios kept booting that grub each time and prefix and whatnot would end up messed up
[22:02] <shinobi> https://termbin.com/u206 and /caixp
[22:04] <EriC^^> shinobi: ubuntu is on /dev/sdf7 right?
[22:05] <shinobi> yes
[22:05] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, try typing "grep efi /etc/fstab" and see the current efi uuid
[22:05] <EriC^^> xxxx-xxxx
[22:06] <EriC^^> i want to make sure it's using the same one in the bios as the one we inspected
[22:06] <shinobi> ok
[22:06] <EriC^^> cause there are 2 efi partitions
[22:07] <shinobi> 051C-AB53
[22:08] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, and "sudo blkid /dev/sdf{1,2} | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:09] <goldenjojo> HOw can I fix the sound on my machine; I try alsammixer and pavucontrol and wipe cache files but no there is no sound still
[22:10] <shinobi> test
[22:10] <EriC^^> termbin.com/test?
[22:10] <shinobi> no I was just typing the paths, but then realized that irc thought it was a command
[22:11] <shinobi> https://termbin.com/4ih4
[22:11] <EriC^^> shinobi: ah, so ubuntu is using sdf2 from the uuid
[22:11] <EriC^^> shinobi: but in the efibootmgr output, the partuuid is 135... which is sdf1
[22:12] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, let's try to reinstall grub, hopefully it will put everything in order, and hopefully this is the issue causing the problem
[22:12] <shinobi> UEFI is such a painl.
[22:12] <EriC^^> shinobi: type "grub-install"
[22:13] <shinobi> Is there a way to confirm if I'm using UEFI grub?
[22:13] <shinobi> ah, it says it when I install
[22:13] <shinobi> it's good
[22:14] <shinobi> reboot?
[22:14] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, type "update-grub"
[22:14] <shinobi> what is the difference between the 2
[22:14] <EriC^^> shinobi: grub-install is for the bootloader code, update-grub is for the grub.cfg (menu/entries)
[22:15] <shinobi> ok. it's done
[22:15] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" to confirm stuff
[22:16] <shinobi> https://termbin.com/akp8
[22:16] <EriC^^> shinobi: also "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" to seal it from all places
[22:16] <EriC^^> uefi entry looks good, using 89... as partuuid
[22:16] <shinobi> and /pk98
[22:17] <EriC^^> shinobi: all looks good, just finally see "cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg" is it hd5 or hd3? leave it as is for now
[22:18] <shinobi> hd5
[22:18] <EriC^^> ok
[22:18] <EriC^^> type exit and try to reboot
[22:19] <EriC^^> i think we might need to change it to hd3 if it doesnt work as you said
[22:19] <shinobi> EriC^^ No Dice - I get the infamous grub prompt
[22:20] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, try set root='(hd3,gpt7)'
[22:21] <EriC^^> then set prefix=($root)'/boot/grub'
[22:21] <EriC^^> then configfile $prefix/grub.cfg
[22:23] <shinobi> rebooting....
[22:23] <shinobi> bingo
[22:24] <EriC^^> what worked?
[22:24] <shinobi> I'm in to 20.04
[22:24] <p0indexter> what does unregged mean?
[22:24] <shinobi> I'm going to reboot just to make sure it's good
[22:24] <EriC^^> after typing those commands in the grub shell it booted?
[22:25] <EriC^^> p0indexter: unregistered
[22:26] <p0indexter> meaning the chan is unregistered?
[22:27] <guntbert> p0indexter: no, it serves as a redirection target for unregged users
[22:27] <p0indexter> hmmm though i was registered
[22:28] <guntbert> p0indexter: yeah, there are some other reasons to redirect users as well - happens to everybody sometimes
[22:28] <p0indexter> ok ty
[22:29] <shinobi> EriC^^ I got to Ubuntu but when I rebooted I am back at the prompt. So I repeated the steps and I'm in the 20.04 install on hd3,gpt7
[22:29] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, just to see something, when you first get the grub> , what does it say for "echo $root" ?
[22:30] <shinobi> Eric^^ I'll have to reboot
[22:30] <EriC^^> p0indexter: it happens to me too if the irc client joins #ubuntu quickly in the autojoin list, it tries to join before nickserv identifies me
[22:31] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, if you want you could try to edit /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg right now and see if setting hd3 helps
[22:31] <shinobi> it is hd3,gpt1
[22:31] <EriC^^> oh
[22:31] <EriC^^> i thought you said hd5 earlier
[22:32] <shinobi> It was
[22:32] <shinobi> But we set it to gpt3 earlier
[22:32] <EriC^^> yeah but grub-install should overwrite it
[22:33] <EriC^^> im confused, i asked to run 'cat /boot/efi/......' you said it gave back hd5, right before the reboot
[22:34] <shinobi> yes, but we had to set root up at the grub prompt to get in
[22:34] <EriC^^> that's a temporary run time thing, doesnt affect any files
[22:34] <EriC^^> anyways, so now it's hd3 and rebooting also gives grub> ?
[22:35] <shinobi> yes, I have to change root = hd3,gpt7 every time
[22:35] <shinobi> no boot menu
[22:36] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok what's "echo $root" initially when you first boot
[22:37] <shinobi> hd3,gpt1
[22:39] <shinobi> I'm thinking I should boot to gpt7 and install and update from there
[22:39] <shinobi> EriC^^
[22:43] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, ill brb in 1min
[22:45] <shinobi> Eric^^ I'm going to be away for a bit. Thank you for your help. I'll try to find you when I'm back, if you're available.
[22:47] <EriC^^> shinobi: ok, for me it seems that modifying grub.cfg hdX doesnt make a difference, it uses the uuid to find the rootfs
[22:47] <EriC^^> i think it might be the mbr issue
[22:49] <EriC^^> shinobi: boot the live usb again, we can zap the mbr and recreate the protective mbr so we know it's not loading that if it exists
[22:58] <MikeRL> Got booted out when VPN disconnected. Lost my nick for a few minutes so I could not join the channel.
[22:58] <MikeRL> Does anyone know anything about complete encryption?
[22:59] <MikeRL> I want to encrypt 20.04, and have partition backups. What is the best way to go about things? I also can copy with rsync as root to an external HD. I want to preserve my data.
[22:59] <MikeRL> Posted a few hours back and I don't believe I got a response, so I figured I'd repost.
[22:59] <EriC^^> you have 20.04 already installed on a hdd and you want to convert it to encrypted?
[23:00] <MikeRL> Yes.
[23:00] <sgt_chuckles> I recently updated my distro, and none of my apps appear in the app menu. Also search isn't working. Anyone else using pop_os 20.04 have this problem?
[23:00] <MikeRL> Or if there was a way to reformat and keep my data.
[23:00] <MikeRL> Rsync and GNOME Disks partition backup are reliable for me.
[23:00] <EriC^^> MikeRL: data as in your home dir or all the apt apps and stuff like that?
[23:00] <MikeRL> EriC^^, Everything.
[23:01] <MikeRL> 20.04 is so fast I figure I can encrypt it. Makes the Yubikey I bought actually useful.
[23:01] <MikeRL> Otherwise all someone needs is a live USB and they can get info.
[23:01] <MikeRL> I also like being paranoid.
[23:01] <EriC^^> MikeRL: i think you'll have to manually convert the install to encrypted, you'd need another hdd of same or more size, prepare the luks stuff and everything and copy over the stuff
[23:02] <MikeRL> So Rsync?
[23:02] <MikeRL> Rsync from my install to another HD? Have the external HD with me now.
[23:03] <oerheks> rsync and grsync as gui
[23:03] <MikeRL> Do you know the rsync command? I forget the structure. A command that preserves permissions and is 100% complete.
[23:03] <grawity> `luksipc` can in-place encrypt a disk, although I don't know how to configure the initramfs to unlock on boot (and you still should have backups!)
[23:03] <oerheks> !info grsync
[23:03] <EriC^^> yeah that would work, but you'd need to prepare everything on the new hdd, luks, lvm, modify fstab/crypttab initramfs and other needed stuff i guess
[23:03] <MikeRL> Have a backup done every other week.
[23:03] <EriC^^> MikeRL: ^
[23:03] <MikeRL> Or I could just rsync everything and do a setup.
[23:04] <MikeRL> I think the installer method would be easiest. Would copying with rsync mess with the encryption?
[23:05] <EriC^^> you mean install as usual but encrypted, then copy over your 20.04?
[23:05] <MikeRL> Yes.
[23:05] <MikeRL> I'm wondering what would be messed up or need to be changed.
[23:05] <EriC^^> i guess it would work, but you'd still need to modify stuff it overwrote, such as fstab,initramfs, crypttab etc
[23:06] <MikeRL> Etc?
[23:06] <MikeRL> Do you know exactly what files need to be modified?
[23:06] <EriC^^> MikeRL: plus you really need to make sure they're both in the same state, it sounds kind sketchy though tbh
[23:06] <EriC^^> (apt and other stuff)
[23:06] <EriC^^> MikeRL: why not look into grawity 's suggestion, seems simple enough and less headachey
[23:07] <MikeRL> I'll search it up ASAP.
[23:08] <MikeRL> I'll clone it from master and build. Versions on the site were outdated, so I went to GitHub.
[23:10] <MikeRL> The readme says "cryptsetup-reencrypt" is more maintained and won't cause breakage to the same extent if any.
[23:11] <MikeRL> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/cryptsetup-reencrypt.8.html
[23:14] <davidsong> hi. how do I open the application search menu with the keyboard?
[23:14] <davidsong> gnome 3 I think
[23:15] <oerheks> windows + a
[23:15] <davidsong> yay! thanks
[23:15] <oerheks> check out the systemsettings keyboard shortcurts
[23:15] <davidsong> is there an easy way to make this just the windows key by itself, like in every other desktop?
[23:15] <davidsong> :+1: thanks
[23:15] <MikeRL> Will return. Have to boot into live install to repartition.
[23:18] <oerheks> davidsong, no. too many shortcuts are depending on it
[23:20] <davidsong> you mean pressing meta and then releasing it without any other key? is that used by other apps?
[23:20] <davidsong> or that it'll overwrite meta+char?
[23:25] <roothorick> what package in 20.04 contains Python(3) bindings for GTK3?
[23:26] <ahmedamerican> I need help with that please https://askubuntu.com/questions/1234562/ssh-to-server-behind-vpn-connection
[23:26] <davidsong> bit quiet in here isn't it? I seem to remember this place being ridiculously busy, text flying up the screen with joins and parts etc. was that on a different network, or has something changed?
[23:27] <davidsong> I'm thinking a few years back
[23:27] <skidleydee> Hey everyone i installed 20.04 and after installing graphics drivers for a 1080ti it will not save the settings for my vertical monitor after a reboot any ideas?
[23:29] <davidsong> skidleydee: sounds like a gnome3 issue. might wanna ask someone closer to that project
[23:30] <davidsong> not that I'm redirecting you or saying you won't get help here, just an idea if nobody here can help
[23:31] <skidleydee> no thats good direction i figured that would be what happened here
[23:38] <davidsong> there should be some kind of wiki that documents dependencies for this sort of thing. I mean, xrandr will be in there somewhere, but what sets it or whether there's something higher level ... dunno
[23:45] <tomreyn> 1080ti sounds like nvidia, sounds like probably proprietary drivers, in which case nvidia-settings would be to blame.
[23:47] <roothorick> I just have a `monitorlayouts.sh` script with some hardcoded xrandr commands
[23:49] <tomreyn> i assume skidleydee could configure it in the xorg.conf that nvidia-settings wrote.
[23:49] <tomreyn> or write another script like yours