[00:06] That xfwm4 release looks like a good SRU candidate. [00:09] bluesabre: this youtube mentioned some problem with the mouse cursor in snaps here https://youtu.be/xYnzqtPiK7s?t=337 [00:09] youtuber* [00:10] I'll have to experiment with that. [00:12] when he moves his mouse into the chromium or vlc windows, the mouse cursor turns black, strange that it would only effect xubuntu and not other flavors [00:12] Right. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [03:39] bluesabre: Not really sure if I should go poking in here or -ot, but do you ever play with stuff like x2go? [05:56] bluesabre: +1 on xfwm4 === acheronuk is now known as RikMills [09:41] for all those that want to join, we are having a docs meeting today at 3pm UTC on zoom or jitsi [09:42] if you have any suggestions to improvements to docs, please put them in here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oGNc4nDmUkhk67-S07VKhOQ7tSWXUW6ureG8N7SVM_o/edit# [11:03] Unit193: first time I've ever heard of x2go [11:03] OK, nevermind then! :D [11:03] i heard about x2go from wimpy, he was always talking about it with mate [11:05] I tried that and nomachine a looong time ago but always got the default Xfce desktop (and usually corrupted Xubuntu), I decided to take a look into it again and set it up so it'd start the Xubuntu desktop. Buuut...moot. [12:26] ochosi: You mentioned keepassxc, fwiw I packaged up the latest version if you wanted it. [12:28] cool [12:28] yes, i wanna work in the timed copy support for keepassxc [12:28] to clipman [12:28] it was "almost finished" (tm) [12:39] Sooo, I'm guessing it's not needed. Anyway, screw it. I popped up the shiny xfconf to https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+packages [12:40] Shiny [15:00] bluesabre: its time now for the meeting [15:14] If anybody wants to join us to talk docs... [15:14] https://us04web.zoom.us/j/76702554053?pwd=Y2NGMTlVMi9iaWYxUUxqR3dqZWtBQT09 [15:14] Password is 5qFKzT [23:15] jphilips: You asked about thunar-shares-plugin, did I respond to that? [23:18] Unit193: don't think so. did you know why its not shipped by default [23:19] I mean samba isn't really shipped by default either, it's not in the repos because it's just yet another thing to maintain. It's not in Debian because there's already a lot of packages and few maintainers, with logs of bug reports to handle. We already have a few packages more than Debian, with questionable benefit. [23:20] Nobody has really pushed for it, so it's in a handy PPA and that's it. [23:20] xfdashboard is another we have over Debian, but I've heard from nobody that actually uses it. Nobody in the team does. [23:21] i was thinking to suggest we ship samba by default or is there an alternative linux file sharing that is easy to configure and use [23:21] xfdashboard is used in voyager, xubuntu derivative [23:22] Err, no we don't really need samba. A fair number of people don't really need it, those that do can install, and it does expose your system much more too. [23:22] Voyager != Xubuntu. :P [23:22] (Though good to know, I didn't know that they did.) [23:23] so what is the linux way to share files across the network? [23:23] Depends on the person, there's NFS and I use sshfs. [23:24] are these shipped by default and is there a means to enable the sharing of folders using these mechanisms through thunar [23:26] i was going through our docs looking for a means to do so, but nothing was on the internet/networks page https://docs.xubuntu.org/2004/user/C/internet-networks.html [23:27] That's because nobody ever wrote anything up, there's plenty of docs already for file sharing. I believe there's a couple different in the Ubuntu docs. The more docs we have, the more we have to maintain. The goal is to keep the duplication down. [23:27] As, clearly, we're not great about writing docs. :D [23:27] !info xubuntu-docs [23:27] xubuntu-docs (source: xubuntu-docs): Xubuntu documentation. In component universe, is optional. Version 18.04.1 (disco), package size 4340 kB, installed size 11786 kB [23:27] > 18.04 [23:28] well atleast we should link to the ubuntu docs from our docs [23:28] well we had a docs meeting today and hopefully that will all change [23:28] *hopefully* ;) [23:30] well i'm committed to it and so is bluesabre, and we have till the next release to fix it, so i'm quite sure its gonna happen :D [23:30] your help would also be appreciated [23:31] I have the translations and some local fixes, but most of those have been sitting there for quite some time. [23:32] main help for now is to identify what needs to be added, removed or fixed [23:32] this is the main doc we are working from https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oGNc4nDmUkhk67-S07VKhOQ7tSWXUW6ureG8N7SVM_o/edit# [23:33] so if you read a docs page, just make a brief note of your thoughts [23:34] bluesabre: is looking into us possibly moving to some other infra like maybe wiki or github/gitlab [23:34] sorry that shouldnt have been a ping :D [23:39] Launchpad is the code hosting site for the rest of Ubuntu, it doesn't really make sense to move that. :/ [23:40] i suggested that we make github the main and launchpad the mirror [23:40] sean will look into the various possibilities [23:41] Unfortunate, but alright then. [23:41] I guess I can just start pasting git format-patch into the channel if it doesn't work out :P [23:42] so i guess you dont have push rights then :D [23:44] On LP yeah, because I'm an xubuntu-dev member. [23:45] oh, so you mean you dont use gitlab/github, now i get you ;D [23:45] For the past release I didn't touch x-d-s much anyway though, mainly did the Xfce packaging. [23:48] do you do work also on the debian side as well?