[01:05] <callmepk> Good morning
[01:16] <duflu> Morning callmepk 
[01:19] <callmepk> morning duflu, how are you
[01:20] <duflu> I'm OK, for a Monday. You, callmepk?
[01:20] <callmepk> I am good
[06:07] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:07] <oSoMoN> happy Monday!
[06:18] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN. Actually just a Monday Monday. How are you?
[06:19] <oSoMoN> hey duflu. I'm good, how are you yourself?
[06:19] <duflu> Going OK
[06:39] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:50] <duflu> Hi seb128 
[07:56] <duflu> Quiet today. At least in IRC
[07:56] <duflu> How are you seb128?
[08:01] <Laney> hi ho de ho
[08:03] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:11] <seb128> hey duflu, Laney, how are you?
[08:11] <duflu> seb128, very Monday-ish. You?
[08:11] <seb128> duflu, I'm good, sorry was away for morning 'duties' :)
[08:11] <seb128> I'm ok, w.e was relaxing and I feel recharged
[08:12] <duflu> That's OK. I was away picking the bins up out of the mud. In a clean white shirt. You'll never guess what happens next
[08:13] <seb128> haha
[08:13] <oSoMoN> :)
[08:13] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 
[08:13] <oSoMoN> hey Laney 
[08:13] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?
[08:13] <oSoMoN> ça va, bon week-end à peu près reposant, et toi?
[08:14] <seb128> pareil :)
[08:16] <seb128> duflu, are you getting some success with those nvidia issues? if you are able to reproduce did you try if e.g the second screen rotation bug happens without the xrandr scaling patch?
[08:17] <duflu> seb128, that's a job for this week, maybe not today. I aim to just catch up on email, status report and upstreams today
[08:17] <seb128> k
[08:18] <duflu> But I do aim to simplify things by trying to reproduce and verify behaviour on Intel before going back to Nvidia
[08:18] <duflu> Not least to better understand what working fractional scaling should look like
[08:18] <duflu> And it works on Intel
[08:19] <duflu> But I don't know about the multimonitor stuff yet. Will test that
[08:19] <duflu> If there's a bug I can fix without having nvidia in the mix I might do that first
[08:20] <duflu> to avoid more side-effects on Nvidia
[08:30] <Laney> moin duflu seb128 oSoMoN 
[08:31] <ricotz> good morning desktopers :)
[08:37] <Laney> hey ricotz 
[08:37] <seb128> duflu, also feel free to bounce to Marco if you have a test case which let trigger the issue, the problem is that he lacks nvidia only hardware atm (as not optimus)
[08:37] <seb128> hey ricotz, how are you?
[08:38] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz 
[08:38] <ricotz> hey Laney seb128 oSoMoN 
[08:38] <ricotz> I am doing good :)
[08:39] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, can you investigage bug #1876352 ? it has been bisected to one of your recent commits to ubuntudock
[08:53] <sil2100> Hey desktoppers! Not sure if canary is still a thing, but groovy images are failing due to the ubuntu-canary PPA not having any groovy packages:
[08:53] <sil2100> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop/canary-image/ubuntu groovy Release' does not have a Release file.
[08:55] <oerheks> groovy just started, what makes you think a PPA is ready?
[08:55] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/canary-image
[08:56] <oerheks> and for support, join #ubuntu+1  but i doubt there will be help 
[08:57] <Laney> sil2100 is one of the cd build maintainers, he's notifying us of a failing build
[08:57] <Laney> let me take care of it
[08:57] <oerheks> oh oke
[09:00] <seb128> tseliot, bug #1765363 has active comments, unsure if that's a real issue we should care about or a low piority one? I would welcome you looking just from a traiging perspective
[09:10] <tseliot> seb128, I remember fixing that in Eoan. I need to check if I backported the fix to bionic
[09:11] <seb128> tseliot, recent comments state they have the issue on focal but maybe that's another problem and they should be askred to report another bug
[09:11] <tseliot> seb128, are you talking about LP: #1875339 now?
[09:12] <seb128> tseliot, no, why?
[09:12] <seb128> tseliot, e.g https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1765363/comments/69
[09:12] <tseliot> let me have a look
[09:12] <seb128> or #68
[09:14] <tseliot> seb128, that seems to me like a comment on the solution provided in the bug report, more than on the way things are in 20.04.
[09:15] <tseliot> also, they are using bbswitch, which isn't really needed
[09:15] <seb128> tseliot, could well be ... if you think you fixed it in 19.10 then I think we best close that one and ask people have issues on focal to do a new clean report describing their problem
[09:20] <tseliot> seb128, I'll check how things are in 18.04 too
[09:20] <seb128> tseliot, thanks!
[09:31] <duflu> seb128, some good news: plymouth master's latest two commits came from us
[09:32] <seb128> duflu, you got your contributor badge for another project :)
[09:33]  * duflu wonders if those were the first
[09:33] <duflu> No I was already a contributor
[09:33] <duflu> If only the important changes would land
[09:35] <seb128> ah, right, you had a list the label/center bugfix you did before focal went out
[09:35] <seb128> yeah :/
[09:45] <duflu> tjaalton, I keep seeing bug reports in which people have the nvidia kernel driver and Xorg using modeset. Is that even possible?
[09:45] <duflu> I will have to try
[09:45] <duflu> Sounds like stutter is generally what results, which I find easy to believe if swap events don't work properly
[09:45] <tjaalton> for tseliot?
[09:46] <duflu> Maybe
[09:46] <duflu> You're so all over Xorg that I keep forgetting
[09:46] <tjaalton> modeset works on a kms driver, so it's not "forbidden"
[09:46] <tjaalton> combo
[09:47] <duflu> Yeah that's what I fear
[09:47] <duflu> Maybe I will need to make it a supported (less broken) combo in mutter
[09:47] <tjaalton> just that there should be an xorg.conf in these cases?
[09:47]  * duflu nods
[09:47] <tjaalton> it could be a hybrid too with i915
[09:48] <tjaalton> hmm or maybe not
[09:48] <tseliot> duflu, yes, modesetting is the default driver for intel+nvidia. This means intel using the modesetting driver
[09:49] <duflu> Yes. I guess I get confused by the lack of Nvidia in the Xorg log
[09:49] <duflu> Makes me think it's not loaded
[09:52] <tseliot> duflu, nvidia should also show up in the log if "prime-select nvidia" is used. It won't when in "on-demand" mode
[09:53] <popey> jibel uploaded my journal to bug 1876440. Very odd that the bpool went missing. Happy to run debugging commands or whatever :)
[09:58] <jibel> popey, there is no bpool and in the pool cache there is the default pool of lxd. 
[09:59] <jibel> i'll see if I find something useful in the journal and probably as k for more info
[09:59] <popey> oof
[10:16] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection ubuntu/focal ebeca15 Iain Lane debian/ control control.in gbp.conf * control, gbp.conf: Update for focal * https://deb.li/iW852
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[10:16] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection ubuntu/focal b6281a8 Iain Lane debian/changelog * Finalise changelog * https://deb.li/3QMLG
[10:17] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection ubuntu/focal d96e828 Iain Lane debian/gbp.conf * gbp.conf: Update 'debian-tag' to make ubuntu/XXX tags * https://deb.li/1VWc
[10:17] <KGB-0> gobject-introspection signed tags 78ca4ea Iain Lane ubuntu/1.64.1-1_ubuntu20.04.1 * gobject-introspection Debian release 1.64.1-1~ubuntu20.04.1 * https://deb.li/3Bx8y
[10:21] <Trevinho> seb128: ok will look that too 
[10:21] <seb128> hey Trevinho, thanks! how are you? had a good 3 days w.e? :)
[10:47] <Trevinho> seb128: good although I actually worked on 1st as there was not much else to do... 😅
[10:48] <Trevinho> To celebrate work even better 
[10:48] <Trevinho> you. 
[10:48] <Trevinho> ? 
[10:49] <Trevinho> but at least I was able to go out for a walk and a run after 40+ days locked in 
[10:50] <didrocks> good afternoon :)
[10:51]  * Laney looks suspiciously at didrocks 
[10:51] <Laney> afternoon
[10:51] <Laney> hey Trevinho 
[10:52] <didrocks> :) /me goes force and back and work in interruptions
[11:00] <seb128> Trevinho, I worked as well, virtual vienna ... w.e was relaxing/good though
[11:00] <seb128> hey didrocks, how are you?
[11:01] <didrocks> seb128: tired, but not as much as Julie :) Otherwise, well! Thanks, and you?
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master c2b4d62 Iain Lane * pushed 7 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/34IOy
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master f85abc2 Sebastien Bacher debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.35.3-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ij0G4
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master e955b83 Sebastien Bacher (151 files in 14 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.36.1-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ivyD
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master d413699 Iain Lane debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.1-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/3QwDz
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master c90d623 Iain Lane (25 files in 7 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.2-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/qu4R
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca ubuntu/master 1eb85b5 Iain Lane debian/ control control.in gbp.conf * control, gbp.conf: Update for ubuntu branches * https://deb.li/3VHzv
[13:43] <KGB-2> orca signed tags fcbffaa Iain Lane ubuntu/3.36.2-1ubuntu1 * orca Debian release 3.36.2-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/DHME
[13:44] <didrocks> thanks Laney :)
[13:45] <Laney> np!
[13:50] <Laney> got to love having the commit bot
[13:54] <didrocks> it seems it's printing Author and not Commiter, right?
[13:56] <Laney> that's right
[13:56] <Laney> If it printed the committer it would mean attribution is weird
[13:56] <didrocks> DRTR :p
[13:56] <didrocks> DTRT
[13:56] <didrocks> :)
[13:56] <Laney> :>
[13:57]  * Laney does the sru bits
[14:23] <Laney> back online
[14:23] <Laney> ISP's been having a wobble
[14:45] <Laney> just wobbled off completely /o\
[14:50] <didrocks> waow, crazy, even the wifi at the maternity is more stable than your ISP it seems
[14:50] <Laney> heh
[14:51] <Laney> they're usually great, wonder what's happening today
[14:51] <Laney> watching their IRC channel is funny
[15:30] <seb128> marcustomlinson, bug #1874591 seems like a fallout from https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/update-manager/update-manager/+merge/380060
[15:30] <seb128> +            GLib.idle_add(self.label_details.set_label, status)
[15:31] <seb128> but label_details doesn't seem to exist
[15:32] <seb128> well not in the apturl context at least
[15:48] <marcustomlinson> sigh
[15:50] <marcustomlinson> seb128: thanks for the diagnosis
[15:50] <seb128> marcustomlinson, np, sorry that this work is still coming back haunting you :-(
[15:52] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master a8635db Iain Lane * pushed 11 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iWRAx
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[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master c3394f9 Samuel Thibault debian/changelog * upload * https://deb.li/1L2I
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[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/master 7fd9f07 Samuel Thibault (60 files in 7 dirs) * Update upstream source from tag 'upstream/3.35.92' * https://deb.li/3nziD
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal e743a23 Iain Lane * pushed 10 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3VoGA
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal f85abc2 Sebastien Bacher debian/ (5 files in 2 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.35.3-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ij0G4
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal e955b83 Sebastien Bacher (151 files in 14 dirs) * Import Debian changes 3.36.1-0ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/ivyD
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal d413699 Iain Lane debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.1-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/3QwDz
[15:53] <KGB-1> orca ubuntu/focal c90d623 Iain Lane (25 files in 7 dirs) * Merge tag 'debian/3.36.2-1' into ubuntu/master * https://deb.li/qu4R
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[15:56] <Laney> I like this method of dishing out of updates
[16:12] <hellsworth> good morning dekstopers
[16:12] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth 
[16:13] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN 
[16:38] <didrocks> hey hellsworth, oSoMoN 
[16:39] <hellsworth> hey didrocks why are you here??
[16:40] <didrocks> hellsworth: I work (with some interruptions) from the maternity. This allow me to be more available when we go back home (on Wednesday)
[16:40] <didrocks> allows*
[16:40] <hellsworth> wow good job.. and congrats again :D
[16:41] <didrocks> thx :)
[16:47]  * ogra sighs ... two weeks in and i still havent gotten a working desktop on my upgraded desktop ... *sniff* ... 
[16:51]  * ogra would be happy about any idea https://imgur.com/a/z8jDqUB ... (i have an install on USB sick that works flawless on that device, the upgraded internal install looks like this though)
[18:36] <seb128> ogra, what driver is in use? legacy intel? or the modesetting modern one?
[18:36] <seb128> ogra, maybe directly ping tjaalton or RAOF they are probably the ones around having the most clue about graphical corruption/driver bugs
[18:36] <ogra> well, both are intel for sure
[18:37] <seb128> ogra, is -intel installed?
[18:37] <seb128> just trying to see a difference between an USB stick and your upgrade...
[18:37] <ogra> : (II) intel(0): Using Kernel Mode Setting driver: i915, version 1.6.0 20190822
[18:37] <ogra> i think they are identical 
[18:39] <ogra> well, trying to find the difference is what i'm doing here since a week :) 
[18:40] <ogra> i think i at least have a largely identical package selection on both now ... 
[18:41] <sarnold> ogra: two weeks with those crazy artifacts?
[18:41] <ogra> i also tried a new user to make sure it isnt any user config ... so the last bit remaining must be some stale config ... perhaps something i added manually and forgot :/
[18:42] <ogra> sarnold, well,  a few restarts and i at least have no artifxats on the fonts ... then changing the wallpaper and i have a semi workable environment 
[18:43] <sarnold> ogra: ah, good. that'd otherwise be way too much to work with
[18:43] <ogra> playing a video fullscreen reliably breaks it again though 
[19:32] <tjaalton> ogra: do you have the intel x driver in use?
[19:33] <tjaalton> if so, remove it
[19:33] <ogra> tjaalton, xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[19:33] <tjaalton> yes
[19:34] <tjaalton> in xorg.conf
[19:34] <ogra> i dont have an xorg.conf (i think)
[19:34] <tjaalton> check
[19:34] <ogra> at least not in /etc/X11
[19:34] <tjaalton> or the x log
[19:35] <sarnold> is there something wrong with just purging the package and letting that sort it out?
[19:36] <ogra> no trace of xorg.conf in the log ... let me remove the driver and reboot ... 
[19:36] <tjaalton> that should do it, unless x is configured to use it and it fails to start
[19:37] <tjaalton> i meant if the log showed intel was used
[19:39] <ogra> tjaalton, i owe you beer at the next non-virtual sprint !!!
[19:39] <ogra> thanks so much, that did it
[19:41] <tjaalton> ok, cool :)
[19:52] <tjaalton> guess you still have a config in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[20:45] <seb128> ogra, shrug, I asked you early if you used the old -intel
[20:45] <seb128> glad you figured it out though: )
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