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| guiverc | I asked this on weekend, but flavor ISOs for 20.10 are being created, but http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/413/builds does not have anything, however iso.qa does have new daily builds for 20.04? but no ISOs there (http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/408/builds/211606/testcases) - is this related & a config mixup? | 03:51 |
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| * guiverc notices it's still 'weekend' for UK/EU/US folks, sorry | 03:52 | |
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| ricotz | doko, hi, lib32stdc++6 (gcc-10/groovy-proposed) still creates an internal versioned dep to lib32gcc1 | 08:30 |
| Laney | guiverc: there was a typo in a config file. fixed, hopefully that'll do it for the next builds | 08:44 |
| guiverc | Thanks Laney | 08:44 |
| santa_ | hi everybody | 09:24 |
| oSoMoN | is there a plan to backport python 3.6 (or newer) to xenial, given that 3.5 will be EOL on 2020-09-13, before xenial's own EOL ? | 13:10 |
| wgrant | oSoMoN: That would be unusual, given the usual distribution practice is to provide support beyond the upstream lifetime. Do you have a specific reason for asking? | 13:23 |
| oSoMoN | wgrant, yes, it looks like firefox will soon need to build-depend on python3 >= 3.6 | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | SRUing a newer minor release Python would be a gigantic and disruptive effort | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | *of Python | 13:25 |
| cjwatson | Almost certainly much easier to make the probably relatively few changes to keep Firefox running on 3.5 | 13:26 |
| oSoMoN | I thought so, just wanted to check before I put an item on my to-do list | 13:26 |
| oSoMoN | I'll actually most probably create a python3.6-mozilla package and will b-d on it, as we already do for a few other firefox build deps that require newer versions than what's in xenial | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | ! | 13:27 |
| cjwatson | I really recommend against it | 13:28 |
| cjwatson | Python has a lot of integration | 13:28 |
| wgrant | It really isn't that hard to fix 3.6-only code | 13:28 |
| wgrant | Far far easier than backporting the whole interpreter | 13:28 |
| wgrant | (also, that's pretty anti-social of Mozilla) | 13:28 |
| wgrant | I can see the justification for something fast-moving like Rust. But doing it for Python seems wwied | 13:29 |
| wgrant | Weird | 13:29 |
| oSoMoN | well their build system is python2-only for now, but they're working on migrating to python3, so they're targetting a version that will be supported by the time they switch, which makes sense | 13:30 |
| cjwatson | Migrating to Python 3 makes sense, but even if they target 3.6 it's very unlikely to be hard to make it work on 3.5 as well | 13:31 |
| wgrant | It sounds like it would be worth it for distributions to contribute to that discussion. Keeping 3.5 support upstream isn't hard. | 13:31 |
| wgrant | But it also isn't hard to add it back later if they decline. | 13:31 |
| oSoMoN | right, I don't know how much work it will be to fix 3.6-only code, I'm not very familiar with the inners of mozilla's build system, but potentially much easier than backporting the whole interpreter indeed | 13:32 |
| wgrant | With almost complete certainty. | 13:32 |
| oSoMoN | wgrant, cjwatson: thanks for your input, I'm talking to a mozilla dev and I've forwarded that feedback, hopefully they can make this easy for us | 13:44 |
| wgrant | oSoMoN: Great, hopefully they're receptive. It's not much work for them, and makes the lives of multiple downstreams easier. | 13:45 |
| Odd_Bloke | waveform: Where are we at with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1870346? Are you still investigating the Pi WiFi issues, or is it on our plate fully now? | 13:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1870346 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "Wifi configuration" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:51 |
| waveform | Odd_Bloke, given Ryan's last comment I was going to try and tackle the netplan guys this week to see if they could take a look at it - but I can say the bug he linked to (LP: #1874377) doesn't fix this one (1870346) | 13:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1874377 in netplan.io (Ubuntu Focal) "Netplan does not connect to Wireless after `sudo netplan apply` until reboot" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1874377 | 13:53 |
| Odd_Bloke | waveform: Yep, and we have a report from a user that the follow-up fix (that landed in ubuntu3 in groovy) is also exhibiting the same issues. ;.; | 13:54 |
| waveform | Odd_Bloke, yeah - tested that over the weekend with no joy - still, if rharper think it's not cloud-init, I figured I ought to try the netplan angle as we haven't looked at netplan specifically for this bug yet (although it has been touched for several vaguely related ones as you've noted!) | 13:56 |
| rbasak | bryce: I see you tagged git-ubuntu 0.9.3 and 0.9.4, but I don't see release announcements for these. Should we treat them as never released? | 13:56 |
| rbasak | I'd like to roll a 0.10. | 13:57 |
| Odd_Bloke | waveform: Cool, so long as this isn't sitting waiting for us, I'll leave you to it. Is there a Ubuntu Pi channel or something that I can direct this user to hang out in? | 13:59 |
| waveform | I keep an eye on mentions of "ubuntu" in #raspberrypi (which is where the vast majority of pi support on IRC happens), and for "r?pi" mentions on #ubuntu and here (and a few other ubuntu sub-channels) | 14:00 |
| waveform | Odd_Bloke, ^^ | 14:00 |
| Odd_Bloke | Ack, thanks! | 14:00 |
| sil2100 | !dmb-ping | 15:01 |
| ubottu | ddstreet, rafaeldtinoco, rbasak, sil2100, slashd, teward, tsimonq2: DMB ping | 15:01 |
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| seb128 | doko, do you have any idea why https://launchpadlibrarian.net/459994405/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.mailnag_1.2.1-1.1ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz is not building anything? | 16:12 |
| seb128 | the packaging is outdated and it's using 'dh build --with python2' | 16:12 |
| seb128 | but that used to work / call 'python setup.py build --force' but in focal that stopped working, it's not doing anything | 16:12 |
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| bdmurray | seb128: Have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/1871538/comments/15? | 17:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1871538 in dbus (Ubuntu Focal) "dbus timeout-ed during an upgrade, taking services down including gdm" [High,Incomplete] | 17:36 |
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| seb128 | bdmurray, I didn't see it but it doesn't seem to have much info, it's similar to previous comment, systemd/dbus going down for some reason | 18:33 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, we would need bug #1870060 to get fixed to get more info on whether a service segfault ... do you know what's the status of that one/if we have an eta? | 18:34 |
| ubottu | bug 1870060 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "systemd ProtectSystem/mount namespace makes apport fail (impact most of our default system services)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1870060 | 18:34 |
| seb128 | bdmurray, also bug #1862553, the fix is in the review queue since friday, hint hint *g* | 18:44 |
| ubottu | bug 1862553 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center crashed with SIGSEGV in cc_panel_get_title_widget()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1862553 | 18:44 |
| doko | seb128: see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=949372 | 19:16 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 949372 in src:dh-python "dh-python doesn't accept python2 or python2.7 in the build dependencies" [Important,Open] | 19:16 |
| doko | b-d on python-all is a workaround | 19:16 |
| eoli3n__ | Hi | 19:19 |
| eoli3n__ | any chance to get zsys working on any other distro ? | 19:19 |
| eoli3n__ | should i try to build an aur package, or the project is not ready to be port ? | 19:19 |
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| seb128 | doko, thanks | 20:33 |
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| Unit193 | xnox: Thanks for asking -ftp about the openssl issue. | 23:37 |
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