[00:53] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[01:07] <BenderRodriguez> good evening
[01:07] <BenderRodriguez> (fyi U.S. timezones are only ones that truly matter)
[01:07] <lotuspsychje> hey BenderRodriguez been a while :p
[04:15] <AlligatorJoe> fuck you ubuntu motherfuckers...you goddamn bastards have made money off of our model 1 ideas and have not paid the 5 of us the trillions of dollars of royalties owed for the use of our digital ideas.
[04:16] <AlligatorJoe> i am sick and fuckin tired of watching people make money all over the globe by using our model 1 ideas without paying us for them
[04:17] <AlligatorJoe> you goddamn money making bastards need to pay for the profits you made of the backs of others like the 5 of us.
[04:26] <AlligatorJoe> and that includes if you used a telephone to make some money...because it uses our ideas of digitized sound...and none of all those goddamn global telecom giants have paid the 5 of us the trillions of dollars that we are owed.
[04:27] <AlligatorJoe> i am tired of you goddamn thieving motherfuckers not paying what you fuckin ass owe.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !ops | AlligatorJoe needs help
[04:28] <AlligatorJoe> do you think you can just go through life taking everything you fuckin want without paying the rightful owners for it
[04:29] <AlligatorJoe> lotuspsychje...fuck you ....you goddamn motherfucker ....you also need to pay for the use of our ideas which include digital communications as well...which you are now guilty of doing.
[04:30] <AlligatorJoe> we are not goddamn nigger slaves....you bastards need to pay every fuckin dime you owe.
[04:32] <housecat> lotuspsychje: thanks
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> np housecat
[04:40] <oerheks> he was not talking about climate-money, right?
[06:22] <ducasse> good morning
[06:30] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-18-04-lts-to-20-04-lts-today
[11:33] <Ussat> and immediately after, removing all snaps, and all ability to reinstall snaps :)
[11:40] <tomreyn> does that leave gui only users with a way to install software?
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah gnome-software tomreyn
[11:42] <tomreyn> that's still installed by default? or even available?
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> no, optional
[11:42] <tomreyn> ah, i guess synaptic is the better option though
[11:43] <tomreyn> well, may depend on the user
[16:58] <jeremy31> oerheks: The dkms status command just showed rtl8821ce and rtlwifi-new
[16:59] <jeremy31> https://termbin.com/3u58
[18:00] <DeskLampChamp> Hey, longtime windows user here, just made the switch over to ubuntu, I have heard this is a much better platform, and is more customizable. Does anyone have any advice on what i can do with it starting out, besides watching youtube and looking at memes?
[18:02] <daftykins> just use it, it's an OS :)
[18:03] <DeskLampChamp> fair enough!
[18:04] <jeremy31> And only believe half of what you read
[18:11] <Bashing-om> DeskLampChamp: ^^ Too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages .
[18:15] <joelcrump> DeskLampChamp, one thing i really like about linux is that it has really limitless ranges of uses, there are people who use it for simple stuff, for unbelievably complex stuff, and everything in between.. there's really no right or wrong way to use it
[18:16] <daftykins> you only need a half day in #ubuntu to know that's not true :)
[18:17] <joelcrump> well i realize that you could do something to mess it up, but it doesn't just happen for no reason
[18:18] <Bashing-om> It's been years now since I broke my 'buntu :D
[18:21] <daftykins> ah i wasn't really thinking of people that break it, just teasing the notion that there's no wrong way to use it
[18:22] <joelcrump> i guess what i meant is just that linux isn't required to be something for "leet" users, it could just be someone who's fed up with commercial software's issues, wanting the computer to "just work"
[18:30] <sarnold> DeskLampChamp: it depends what you want to do with it -- if you're interested in server things, check out lxd, libvirt, microstack; if you're interested in desktop stuff, try the various desktops, there's lots to choose from and they're not all the same
[18:31] <DeskLampChamp> jeremy31: why do you say read half of what you beleive?
[18:31] <jeremy31> DeskLampChamp: A lot of info is out of date, not much good
[18:32] <daftykins> yeah that really sucks about learning Linux things
[18:33] <DeskLampChamp> how often do you guys find yourselves using the command prompt?
[18:34] <sarnold> constantly; firefox is the only gui program I use, everything else is in a terminal
[18:34] <joelcrump> it's necessary for some things but generally the instructions are easy to follow
[18:35] <Bashing-om> DeskLampChamp: CLI here too: constant .
[18:35] <jeremy31> DeskLampChamp: I use terminal a lot but it isn't needed all the time.  It does make it easier to help people with problems for me anyhow
[18:35] <DeskLampChamp> sarnold: thats pretty cool, sorry for the dumb question but like what do you use it for? writing documents and emails?
[18:36] <sarnold> DeskLampChamp: I do email through mutt; documents, though rare, I use latex for that
[18:37] <sarnold> DeskLampChamp: (latex is a crazy beast; if you're going to do scientific articles, latex might be worth learning, but for most folks it's probably too much pain..)
[18:37] <daftykins> you should have found plenty of uses to use command line on Windows, also :)
[18:38] <DeskLampChamp> the only thing i really did with the command prompt ion windows was run stupid little python programs
[18:38] <sarnold> DeskLampChamp: irc is with irssi (but I always intend to try weechat "one of these days")
[19:42] <DeskLampChamp> daftykins: what do you use the command line for?
[20:13] <Bashing-om> UWN629 hot off the terminals: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue629 :D