[00:16] <tamawork> good morning
[01:14] <Munsko> Night here
[01:14] <Munsko> XD
[08:36] <user14651> hi everyone! hope you can help: trying to add shortcut to application menu. creating desktop entry in /usr/share/applications/  does create icon, but clicking on it wont start it. is there something else that has to be done in 20.04 please? thanks in advace
[08:40] <kc2bez> user14651: That is the correct process. The `exec` line of the desktop file will need to point to the full path for the application.
[08:44] <user14651> yeah. i used to do this in lxde and always worked, but i have no luck doing the same in lxqt. full path is correct; but also did try to create a command in /usr/bin and pointed "EXEC" line to this command; this didnt help; starting same desktop entry from pacman-qt works; but does not work from application menu nor quick launch widget :(
[08:46] <kc2bez> user14651: I have done it in LXQt before too. Can you paste your desktop file?
[08:52] <user14651> https://pastebin.com/NL1TYBkP
[08:54] <user14651> i know exec command is bit complex, but like i have said earlier, i did also try to move this command in executable file in /usr/bin . this file run fine from terminal, so i have pointed EXEC line to this executable; still no luck
[08:56] <kc2bez> user14651: given the length of the command you may want to make a script and then call the script from the desktop file.
[08:56] <user14651> see above; did that;
[08:58] <user14651> kc2bez: i really do appreciate you trying to help me here :)
[08:59] <kc2bez> Perhaps try calling the actual desktop file from the terminal so you can see any errors?
[09:03] <user14651> how to do that? by default desktop entry is not executable; i can set to be executable, but then what program to use to run desktop entry from terminal please?
 By the way, the password is not very secret, if you export it as env variable and write it into a file, which is readable by everyone
[09:13] <user14651> lubot: file is not readable by everyone; and will be moved to .local/share/applications/ once i figure this out. also tor-ctrl port accepts only connections from localhost; i am only user on this desktop and home folder is encrypted; so it is still not the best practise, i feel good enough about it.
[09:18] <user14651> the reason i export it to ENV VAR is so I can run torbrowser without starting another instance of tor, if i already have tor running as a service in background; there used to be a better way to do this in past, but ATM using ENV VAR is the only way I know how to achieve what i need.
[09:20] <Guest30216> ciao
[09:20] <Guest30216> nessuno?
 The home folder is not encrypted when you are using it. A little exploit is enough to check your env variables and any programm running as your user can read the file. … Being the only user is just an illusion, there are a lot of other technical users. … I am just saying that your solution is very fragile.
[09:32] <santimir[m]> i've been trying to access gmail from trojita but its not very straightforward. gmail is blocking the access
[09:32] <santimir[m]> is there any reasons why choosing this client instead of thunderbird?
[09:32] <user14651> kc2bez: running desktop entry with gtk-launch starts the application fine
[09:35] <user14651> santimir[m]: trojita should be fast and resource efficient; i still prefer sylpheed because trojita does not support search / filtering
[09:36] <santimir[m]> yes but you have to switch off security settings in gmail for trojita to work
[09:36] <santimir[m]> am I wrong?
[09:36] <kc2bez> user14651: I am unsure why that isn't launching for you from the menu.
[09:37] <kc2bez> santimir[m]: trojita is a qt application and thunderbird is a GTK application is one reason
[09:38] <kc2bez> thunderbird has the same security issues I believe. I have not tested that though.
[09:38] <santimir[m]> alright...i'm installing thunderbird to try that out
[09:38] <user14651> kc2bez: nevermind; for now i will place desktop entry to desktop and launch from there while i try to figure it out. Thank you for all your help :)
[09:39] <kc2bez> Sorry I wasn't able to help there user14651
[09:40] <user14651> kc2bez: but its good to know i am not doing it incorrectly; i am sure i will find another way somehow
[09:40] <santimir[m]> thunderbird took 1 minute to run
[09:41] <santimir[m]> didn't need any security changes, AFAI can tell
[09:47] <user14651> lubot: do you know a way of staring torbrowser without starting tor relay without exporting password to ENV VAR? i do appreciate you telling me about potential weakness, so i am not trying to argue with your statement, because I know you are right. however if i had exploit running on my system, disclosing tor ctrl passwd would not be my biggest worry.
[10:28] <user14651> kc2bez: success; i though you might be curious how i did it:
[10:28] <user14651> I had move command into script AND cd into folder where the script is located; absolute path is not working;
[10:28] <user14651> not sure its the best approach, but changed EXEC line to EXEC=sh -c "cd <PATH TO FOLDER CONTAINING SCRIPT> && <SCRIPT NAME>"
[10:28] <user14651> i got this idea because xdg-lauch <PATH TO FILE> only works if your PWD is where the file is
[10:28] <user14651> not sure why it does not work if script is in /usr/bin
[10:28] <user14651> Thanks again because without your suggestion to run it from terminal i would not play with xdg-launch
[10:29] <kc2bez> whoops, I think the bot quieted you user14651
[10:30] <kc2bez> You may have to paste that
[10:30] <kc2bez> I am glad you were able to figure it out user14651
[10:32] <user14651> kc2bez: https://pastebin.com/A6X4Kcng
[10:34] <kc2bez> Excellent user14651 thanks for the update.
 Sorry, user14651 I can't help you. … The last time I played with Tor is several  years ago and my knowledge is certainly not up to date. … It sounds like a problem, that also other people have, I recommend to ask in a Tor related channel
[11:01] <user14651> lubot: the way i currently run is has been suggested to me by tor devs some time ago :/ but i will look into it again; thank you
[12:06] <Ev0luti0n_> Folks... any luck with bluetoot adapters'
[12:06] <Ev0luti0n_> _
[12:06] <Ev0luti0n_> ?
 hello, would wifi connection of lubuntu better than kubuntu or are they same at those things? i installed kubuntu to my sister's pc, sometimes it get hard times to connect repeater. i would try lubuntu for that if u guys suggest me to try
[15:07] <genii> Underneath they all use the same drivers
 she is teacher, i dont want to stop her works blind eye
 @genii [<genii> Underneath they all use the same drivers], hmm:/
[15:12] <raskol> Where do I report bugs in the installer?
[15:19] <kc2bez> raskol: you would use `ubuntu-bug calamares` for issues with  >18.10 or `ubuntu-bug ubiquity` for issues with 18.04
[15:20] <kc2bez> Also see our wiki page regarding bugs https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/
[22:41] <guiverc> at turn on, the keyboard layout for entering encryption key (lubu 20.04) is controlled by uefi/bios isn't it??
[22:44]  * guiverc thinks i found enough info in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019  (for comment anyway)
[22:44] <wxl> well remember our FDE isn't Ubuntu's
[22:44] <wxl> ubiquity doesn't encrypt /boot
[22:44] <wxl> so it's not actually FULL disk encryption
[22:45] <wxl> the value of that is more control, so they can have user-defined keyboard layouts when entering the password
[22:45] <guiverc> oops... i'm was forming comment for https://askubuntu.com/questions/1235842/how-to-set-keyboard-layout-for-boot-up-hard-disk-encryption-in-lubuntu-20-04  (user using non-en having trouble unlocking..)
[22:46] <guiverc> wxl do you know of a wiki/something I can read to understand better so I can respond?
[22:47] <wxl> eh
[22:48] <wxl> guiverc: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1203
[22:49] <guiverc> Thank you (greatly) wxl
[22:50] <wxl> npp