[00:46] <OvenWerks> Ok, that was frustrating. In plasma, what do I set so that when I plug a PTP/MTP device in it shows up in the file manager?
[00:47] <OvenWerks> I can go to settings and set up all kinds of things about my camera. Removable deviced should be mounted... but while I can put the sd card into a reader and see it... it doesn't see the camera when I plug it in.
[00:49] <OvenWerks> Considering all the trouble Kubuntu goes to to be artist friendly and all the stuff it has for detecting my camera (it can even see it's serial number) I am surprised it is not more obvious
[00:49]  * OvenWerks son needed pictures transfered to the computer for homework.
[00:50] <OvenWerks> Looks like I can teather it easy enough though
[00:54] <OvenWerks> Actually I don't want automount so much as autodetect.
[01:32] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Strange, I've never had an issue. Perhaps try a card reader?
[01:33] <OvenWerks> Ya the card reader works... but with thunar the camera just shows up as a mountable device... well it did in 18.04
[01:34] <Eickmeyer> Rapid Photo Downloader is amazing, btw.
[01:34] <Eickmeyer> You might also try Digikam.
[01:35] <OvenWerks> Something I need to learn then
[01:35] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Any idea if there's something we can do in our config for PTP/MTP devices?
[01:35] <Eickmeyer> Rapid Photo Downloader hardly takes any know-how.
[01:36] <OvenWerks> Not worried about that, just used to opening the file manager and copy/paste or cut/paste
[01:36] <OvenWerks> Seems odd I would have to use something else
[01:37] <OvenWerks> Sort of like I have a 16oz hammer in my hand, but for silver nails I have to set it down and pick up the 18 oz hammer
[01:38] <Eickmeyer> I mean, that surprises me. I've never had a problem when plugging-in my camera or my son's camera.
[01:39] <Eickmeyer> We might have to install mtp-tools by default.
[01:39] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Try installing mtp-tools.
[01:39] <Eickmeyer> Or go-mtpfs
[01:40] <OvenWerks> Which one?
[01:40] <Eickmeyer> go-mtpfs might already be installed.
[01:40] <Eickmeyer> Try mtp-tools.
[01:46] <OvenWerks> ripid-photo dl works ok... so how does one delete the copy on the camera then?
[01:46] <Eickmeyer> There should be an option to auto-delete upon download. If not, then erase all images from the camera?
[01:47] <OvenWerks> clear completed downloads
[01:47] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Hamburger menu (three lines), .... ^ Yeah, that.
[01:48] <Eickmeyer> RPD is nice because it does a bunch simultaneously as opposed to a file manager which does one at a time, hence rapid.
[01:49] <OvenWerks> Ya
[01:51] <OvenWerks> in dolphin get an editable address and put in camera:/
[01:51] <OvenWerks> The clear did not work... the pictures are still there :)
[01:56] <OvenWerks> OK dolphin deleted my pictures. I was able to add a Camera to places on the sidebar. Clicking on that does go to the camera (well actually it opens a screen with a list of cameras) it does seem to show my camera twice for some reason, with both seeming to go to the same place.
[01:57] <OvenWerks> Now I unplug the camera and one of the camera folders remains
[02:03] <Eickmeyer> So, the sidebar is nothing but bookmarks, not like the traditional "places" of old.
[02:04] <Eickmeyer> (this is for my beneift, just looking something up, ignore this: bug 1437180)
[02:06] <Eickmeyer> Ok, that's what that was for. (cleaning the dvd-live seed)
 @teward001 It looks like you've had some more urgent, pressing matters, but materia-kde is still a thing: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/materia-kde/+git/materia-kde
[18:19] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: pulse does provide network out (and in). I did not know that was winders compatable but I am not surprised.
[18:20] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, but that's not something easily set-up, and I have reason to believe his issues are somewhere in that setup.
[18:20] <OvenWerks> I do not doubt that at all.
[18:21] <OvenWerks> Though if they use -controls at all it restarts pulseaudio when jack gets turned off which might unload the net module.
[18:24] <OvenWerks> another odd bit of info... a new install, start jack with controls right away and the user will need to turn up/unmute the audio card manually. Normally Pulse would do this for the user when the first appliaction connects and requests audio out...
[18:25] <OvenWerks> I am not sure if this is true in all cases but it was yesterday
[18:27] <Eickmeyer> Interesting. I wonder if alsa has introduced some odd defaults.
[18:29] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: with my ice1712 it always has been -inf levels on all the analog signals and I have to remember to set them with every new install. Pulse does not know which ports are the actual outputs :)
[18:30] <OvenWerks> On the first logout all alsa settings are saved so next boot/login is fine
[18:31] <OvenWerks> What I would really like is an alsa backend for jack that has level control that can be set by level keys and the audio applet in the tray
[18:32] <OvenWerks> What pulse does for these things is really quite good (except for input levels on cards with boost)
[18:33] <OvenWerks> However, I suspect pipewire will get done before I get so far as making such a thing
[18:33]  * OvenWerks is fixing bugs in Ardour foldback GUI
[21:18] <RikMills> getting ready to upload new plasma bugfix release ;)
[21:41] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: To Groovy, I assume?
[21:51] <RikMills> for starters
[21:52] <RikMills> I'll SRU the packages with bugfix changes for focal, but that is by the by for studio
[21:52] <Eickmeyer> Right.