[00:04] <Bashing-om> FurretUber: Sorry - called away - as you have " FAT-fs (sdb): Volume was not properly unmounted." boot a Windows machine and run a Windows file system check. ( ubuntu "might" be able to fix - but Windows file system - Windows tools).
[00:13] <biscuit__> testing 1 2 3
[00:13] <biscuit__> ugh
[00:14] <biscuit__> testing 1 2 3
[00:15] <jmc> biscuit__: testing 3 2 1
[00:15] <jmc> :)
[00:15] <biscuit__> thanks
[00:16] <biscuit__> i'm having trouble with sound fading in and out, i see links on the subject but they are dealing with alsa
[00:16] <biscuit__> if i do ps -ef there is no alsa running, what other sound control should i be looking for?
[00:18] <leftyfb> biscuit__: pulseaudio
[00:19] <biscuit__> aha, there it is. thank you very much
[00:19] <jmc> have you try 'sudo alsa force-reload'?
[00:20] <MrGizmo757> Question: Why is it, that when i install updates from the GUI updater, i get a totally different set of updates then if i use terminal? This makes no since.
[00:20] <biscuit__> well i have rebooted over a number of days and the issue keeps popping up
[00:20] <biscuit__> should i try 'sudo alsa force-reload' if pulseaudio is running and not alsa?
[00:20] <MrGizmo757> i run the GUI updates, It says system is up to date. If i run sudo apt upgrade, i have a whole list of updates.
[00:21] <jmc> biscuit__: try 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base pulseaudio' then try reload
[00:21] <biscuit__> @MrGizmo757 maybe because the gui is running as your user but running update with "sudo" gets you the elevated privs
[00:22] <leftyfb> jmc: alsa is not running by default
[00:22] <Bashing-om> MrGizmo757: What release ? As 20.04 does the snap thing too in GUI.
[00:23] <MrGizmo757> I don't think that makes since either. Because i noticed. that if i switch on the proposed updates, the terminal and updater results are closer to the same. But still not quite. I can't figure out how to properly maintain my system because every update method i look at, gives a diffrent result. It's crazy
[00:23] <MrGizmo757> also the hwe kernel was removed if i use terminal. Something that both Alan pope and martin wimpress said was part of 20.04 from the start.
[00:23] <leftyfb> MrGizmo757: apt/apt-get will give you the best results
[00:24] <MrGizmo757> So.....  i really don't think it's supposed to work like it is. This might be a bug. But i haven't confirmed that yet
[00:24] <Bashing-om> MrGizmo757: ^ was my best guess. I have limited experience with snaps so my advise is so limited.
[00:25] <MrGizmo757> it does, but it's not working. it says "updating snaps".  But.. nothing happens. If i run sudo snap refresh in terminal, it actually updates things
[00:25] <leftyfb> MrGizmo757: there is no reason to install the HWE kernel as of yet since it's just the GA kernel till 20.10 comes out and there's an hwe kernel released
[00:25] <MrGizmo757> So....  from my perspective. it seems like the GUI updater is broken. But nobody noticed yet
[00:26] <MrGizmo757> @leftyfb  Google it. HWE is included out of the box as a secondary kernel in this release.
[00:26] <MrGizmo757> people are complaining about that all over reddit
[00:26] <leftyfb> MrGizmo757: I don't need to "Google it". It's the same kernel
[00:26] <MrGizmo757> Alan pope and Martin wimpress i'm told confirmed this is the case.
[00:27] <MrGizmo757> Ok. but why does this kernel get purged when i run updates in terminal. But not from GUI?
[00:27] <MrGizmo757> Like i say. Something is funny here. Something seems broken. But i can't pin point what.
[00:27] <leftyfb> MrGizmo757: I don't know. It's not needed at the moment anyway. Just use the terminal to update. Install the hwe kernel manually and it won't be removed.
[00:28] <MrGizmo757> i've been using ubuntu since 2006. I've never seen this behavior before. the behavior of these updates just isn't. right.
[00:29] <MrGizmo757> I'll give you another example. i did a clean reinstall just to test things. the GUI update, did it's updates. after it said "your system is up to date". then i did a simple sudo apt upgrade in terminal, and it listed about 12 libreoffice updates.
[00:29] <MrGizmo757> Nothing matches.
[00:29] <MrGizmo757> it's really screwy.
[00:31] <biscuit__> crap, now i have no sound
[00:31] <biscuit__> * from the browser (restarted it) but i did get a "blip" sound when moving the volume control
[00:33] <biscuit__> weird
[00:33] <biscuit__> i can switch to "built-in audio" and sound is there, tinny little speakers tho :(
[00:38] <biscuit__> ugh, well thanks maybe i'll try again sometime
[00:41] <covidian> why dont they package systemd-genie for kubuntu ? its essential ! https://github.com/KDE/systemdgenie
[00:43] <ax562> hello.  I was in here a while back getting help installing ubuntu 20.04 lts.  I'm booting up from a fresh install to "error: symbol 'grub_file_filters' not found.  Entering rescue mode...'  Any ideas?
[00:46] <covidian> u use ZFS as /  ?
[00:49] <ax562> Trying to boot from 20.04 lts fresh install
[00:55] <covidian> which filesystem ?
[00:55] <ax562> how can I check using terminal
[00:55] <Oderus> I could really use a hand getting samba working with sharing files to my windows machine. I have a forum post here that includes the config file if anyone can try to help m out. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php/76810-Difficulty-accessing-samba-share
[01:01] <mesaboogie> Oderus: try adding these two lines to your global config::
[01:01] <mesaboogie> name resolve order = bcast host lmhosts wins client max protocol = NT1
[01:01] <mesaboogie> name resolve order = bcast host lmhosts wins
[01:01] <mesaboogie> name resolve order = bcast host lmhosts wins client max protocol = NT1
[01:01] <mesaboogie> crud, let me pastebin it for you
[01:03] <mesaboogie> Oderus: https://pastebin.com/x8hixPhC
[01:06] <Oderus> mesaboogie: Mesaboogie makes great bass amps xD And thank you, i will try that now
[01:08] <mesaboogie> Oderus: don't thank me yet... that's a long config file you have. =)
[01:10] <Oderus> mesaboogie: that's actually just the default config file that I had, with only the last few lines added by me. that DID allow me to see my linux machine (those 2 lines I added) from within windows, but it still tells me I don't ahve permission to access it
[01:13] <dldm> why is the ubuntu cd 2.5 Go now? what did they put in?
[01:13] <mesaboogie> Oderus: progress then
[01:14] <Oderus> mesaboogie: indeed
[01:16] <mesaboogie> Oderus: smbpasswd -a your-usernames-should-match?
[01:18] <shinobi__> is there a way to view the mb UEFI boot entries from grub?
[01:19] <mesaboogie> shinobi__: [ efibootmgr ] will give you a list with order
[01:20] <Oderus> mesaboogie: yeah, i made a user specifically for this purpose and added it to a specific user group, and made a password like that
[01:21] <mesaboogie> Oderus: ok
[01:21] <mesaboogie> I would guess it is in your [Storage] section.
[01:22] <Oderus> mesaboogie: yeah the group name is. should i change it to just the username? tried it before and no dice, but who knows
[01:22] <mesaboogie> try it again
[01:24] <shinobi__> That wasn't listed in the command list... boo!
[01:25] <mesaboogie> shinobi__: just type [ efibootmgr ] with no opions
[01:25] <mesaboogie> options*
[01:25] <Oderus> mesaboogie: nope no dice. I also just tried with different login credentials and it would not even let me add it. with the account I made for it specifically it lets me add it in windows, but then when I click the folder, it doesn't let me look at it
[01:25] <mesaboogie> Oderus: are the usernames the same on your windows machine and your linux ?
[01:25] <mesaboogie> that simplifies things
[01:26] <Oderus> mesaboogie: no
[01:26] <Oderus> mesaboogie: could i just tell linux to accept my pc's account somehow?
[01:26] <mesaboogie> surely there is a way yes
[01:27] <mesaboogie> I would ceate another user on my windows machine the asme as your linux box and the smbpasswd -a THESAMEUSER just to test it though
[01:27] <shinobi__> mesaboogie: Thanks (The boo wasn't for you.) It can't find it... I think the wrong version of grub got installed.
[01:27] <mesaboogie> same*
[01:27] <mesaboogie> shinobi__: ouch
[01:27] <mesaboogie> shinobi__: gl
[01:28] <shinobi__> gracias
[01:29] <Oderus> mesaboogie: is it possible the user I created doesn't have read access to the directory for sharing?
[01:29] <pillager86> I think my graphics card (Nvidia GTX 1650) is configured incorrectly. Highest OpenGL version supported is 3.3 and vulkaninfo gives an error message. I'm already using proprietary drivers.
[01:29] <mesaboogie> possible
[01:30] <Oderus> mesaboogie: half tempted to purge samba and start over -_-
[01:31] <mesaboogie> Oderus: try adding [ hosts allow ] and [ hosts deny ] lines
[01:32] <chovy> can soemone help me partition 2x8tb disks? I have no idea what to do. I got a hetzner server but they don't provide support or docs
[01:33] <mesaboogie> Oderus: https://www.linux.com/news/using-samba-share-files-between-linux-and-windows/
[01:34] <genii> ... windows can also use NFS now
[01:36] <_bradk> ubuntu 20.04 wireless networking fixed yet? :p
[01:36] <covidian> not sure
[01:36] <covidian> but zfs is quite good
[01:36] <mesaboogie> genii: nice
[01:37] <covidian> many ppl use zbu who could before zfs adoption not be seen using Ubu.
[01:37] <mesaboogie> _bradk: wireless works fine here in 20.04
[01:37] <covidian> many ppl use ubu who could before zfs adoption not be seen using Ubu.
[01:37] <covidian> zfs is what hard disks want!
[01:48] <Oderus> mesaboogie: nope still no luck hah
[01:49] <chovy> can someone tell me if i am not using my 16tb of data? i don't understand. support is helpless https://gist.github.com/chovy/3396f4d3116371a2391867eb7010bfac
[01:52] <mesaboogie> chovy: post the output from [ df -h ] and [ lsblk -f ]
[01:52] <mesaboogie> Oderus: samba is finicky at times.
[01:53] <chovy> https://gist.github.com/chovy/d5b650133a549d61608732d55c5b7a8d
[01:53] <chovy> mesaboogie:
[01:54] <mesaboogie> chovy: you have most of the disks space left. check the df -h output
[01:54] <Oderus> mesaboogie: it is.. i have never had a problem until now of course :)
[01:54] <chovy> mesaboogie: it onlys says 5.8T i thought i have 2x8TB hdd drives
[01:55] <mesaboogie> hrmm chovy let me look closer yet
[01:55] <mesaboogie> chovy: but you are running raid
[01:55] <chovy> so what does that mean?
[01:55] <mesaboogie> a type of mirroring for hard drives
[01:56] <chovy> 16tb turns into 6tb?
[01:56] <mesaboogie> failsafe, hot swap
[01:56] <chovy> is there anyway to disable that? I don't need raid
[01:56] <mesaboogie> usually half in the simplest form chovy
[01:56] <chovy> i'd rather have the space for storage
[01:56] <mesaboogie> have to redo
[01:56] <mesaboogie> from scratch afaik
[01:58] <mesaboogie> I ran raid years ago. I am not up on my chops there but I know the concept. somewhere along the line you told an installer to ue raid I am guessing. how did you provision the disks?
[01:58] <mesaboogie> s/ue/use/
[01:58] <mesaboogie> chovy: ^
[02:00] <Oderus> mesaboogie: ok so... i changed the share location, and it works.............. it won't let me share a partition mounted to a directory?
[02:01] <mesaboogie> yes! it works, you left the two original lines in the config I gave you?
[02:01] <mesaboogie> Oderus: ^
[02:01] <mesaboogie> Oderus: paste the changes you made so I can make note please.
[02:01] <mesaboogie> not here, in pastebin.com
[02:04] <_bradk> mesaboogie: i'm on a lenovo t420s and i keep getting drop outs
[02:06] <Oderus> mesaboogie: https://pastebin.com/yfEMnP73   the only thing i have to change to get the share working from this paste is sharing a different folder. it does not want to share that particular location (the path in the storage section). Said path is a mounted partition.
[02:08] <mesaboogie> Oderus: ok great. not sure why samba would *not* share a mounted partition like any other directory.
[02:09] <dldm> what did they put into 20.04 cd so it takes up 2.5Go?
[02:10] <Oderus> mesaboogie: yeah weird. and now sharing in the opposite direction isnt working either hahaha
[02:10] <covidian> maybe there are some porn videos under /usr/share
[02:11] <mesaboogie> Oderus: ok, I found a post that said this [ "I had the same problem, and I resolved it by mounting the external drive manually with my user (i.e. not root)." ]
[02:11] <k_sze> Just me or setting the device name via "Settings" -> "Details" -> "About" is a bit broken?
[02:11] <mesaboogie> heh @covidian
[02:11] <tripelb> herbmillerjre is a new problem between distros with 20.04. Sum: the display below the panel is distorted for mate and xbuntu on my hp probook. - I worked with mate and someone suggested it is the compositor. He mentioned 3, one was compiz. Marco.  Compton. -- Can you help me/us figure out the problem? I assume my laptop is not an outlier.
[02:12] <k_sze> I set it to an all uppercase name, but when I launch a new terminal, the hostname appears as lowercase in the ZSH prompt.
[02:12] <tripelb> ... Sorry about that "first word problem" on my phone, on freenode.
[02:12] <k_sze> Previously, my device name had uppercase letters and they would appear correctly without being automatically lowercased in the ZSH prompt.
[02:13] <mesaboogie> Oderus: https://superuser.com/questions/230388/sharing-an-external-hard-drive-in-ubuntu-using-samba
[02:14]  * covidian boycotts superuser
[02:15] <Andrio> sudo rm sudo
[02:17] <callipyg0us> have a live image Ubuntu 19.10 booted.  trying to install borgbackup via apt.  Cannot find it...it should be there, right?
[02:17] <mesaboogie> _bradk: check with jeremy31 here as he is a expert on wireless.
[02:18] <Oderus> mesaboogie: honestly I think i might just set up a local ftp server and call it a day... these two don't want to communicate
[02:18] <covidian> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=focal&section=all&arch=amd64&keywords=borgbackup&searchon=names
[02:18] <mesaboogie> Oderus: that works. you can also setup NFS on yoru linux box and access it with windows 10.
[02:19] <guiverc> callipyg0us, https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/borgbackup shows it's found in 'universe', do you have it enabled?  (it's enabled by default only for flavors)
[02:19] <callipyg0us> possibly not enabled.  Just booted the live image
[02:21] <guiverc> callipyg0us, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu   (it can be enabled via gui as per the removing/disable repos section, or command)
[02:21] <callipyg0us> ok, ty
[02:22] <guiverc> callipyg0us, `sudo add-apt-repository universe` if you want command
[02:23] <QbY> I need to get this out as quickly as possible...  They're at my door!  I believe it's NSA infected kernels that keep following me on EVERY MACHINE I get or buy...  https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mqFQ7TSq4z6BsFkUZOMV7Rnc8XxZDTfw
[02:23] <QbY> Its kernel source.
[02:24] <Oderus> mesaboogie: okay thanks for your help
[02:25] <mesaboogie> Oderus: welcome
[02:27] <tripelb> johnjohn101 But if I'm making long paragraphs and you're making short comments it's not a fair discussion. It's not a conversation but you're just poking me.
[02:28] <housecat> tripelb: wrong channel, i think
[02:28] <tripelb> I found a problem between distros 20.04 and nobody is paying attention to my comments since three different channels. It has something to do with a compositor but I have no idea what that is except it has to do with the display with words like Marco Compton and compiz
[02:29] <tripelb> Housecat yeah I shouldn't try to think something through. Let's have fun!!!
[02:30] <tripelb> But then I didn't start the conversation about meat shortages or killing animals in this channel. I just picked up on it. --- And I have no idea why you said it doesn't belong in this channel because you didn't say anything to back up your statement.
[02:30] <housecat> tripelb: this is #ubuntu. you're talking at a person who's in #ubuntu-offtopic not #ubuntu, about a conversation that is happening in #ubuntu-offtopic not #ubuntu
[02:31] <tripelb> Oh I'm sorry I switched channels I was in off topic.
[02:31] <tripelb> My computer has just gotten an internal error from Ubuntu for the third time since I've installed 20.04
[02:32] <mesaboogie> tripelb: click send or don't send and move on
[02:33] <tripelb> mesaboogiee ok
[02:56] <pillager86> How do I get my graphics card to support OpenGL 4.6 profile? It does on Windows. I have the proprietary drivers installed.
[03:00] <pillager86> This is the output of glxinfo https://pastebin.com/eUJYP8e5 the opengl core should be higher than that. Do I need to uninstall nouveau or something. I have Nvidia GTX 1650 btw
[03:03] <pillager86> In any case, I tried to make a 4.6 OpenGL context in an application and got an error. It works if I use 3.3.
[03:03] <pillager86> On the Windows side I tested an opengl 4.6 app and it compiles and runs just fine.
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> pillager86: wich nvidia driver do you use?
[03:12] <pillager86> I just switched it to 440.
[03:12] <pillager86> It was on 435. i have yet to restart.
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> pillager86: all you can do is switch drivers
[03:13] <pillager86> I'm gonna restart and run glxinfo again and see what happens brb
[03:17] <pillager86> Ok I'm back and glxinfo | grep OpenGL is still reporting 3.3 as the core profile
[03:19] <mesaboogie> Oderus: I just setup a test share form ubuntu and it works fine accessing it from windows 10. I had to add the network share explicitly with and ip and share in windows like [ \\IP.OF.SAMBA.MACHINE\SAMBA-SHARE ]  done and working.
[03:20] <Bashing-om> pillager86: does /var/log/gpu-manager.log show any issues ?
[03:21] <pillager86> Error: can't access /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/driver
[03:21] <pillager86> The device is not bound to any driver.
[03:21] <pillager86> Error : Failed to open /dev/dri
[03:22] <Bashing-om> pillager86: EFI system and did you disable secure boot when the driver was built ?
[03:23] <pillager86> I didn't disable anything like that. It told me to put a password in for it when I changed to 440 but when I restarted it didn't ask for a password at boot.
[03:25] <Bashing-om> pillager86: Let's try a purge/reinstall of the driver - 1st however is boot into the firmware and disable secure boot ( the driver is 3rd party and the firmware  blocks).
[03:25] <pillager86> ah ok. i also blacklisted nouveau will that be a problem?
[03:25] <dldm> what did they put into 20.04 cd so it takes up 2.5Go?
[03:26] <Bashing-om> pillager86: I do not think so, as we will reinstall the propriatary driver.
[03:27] <pillager86> alright i'll try to boot into the firmware
[03:27] <pillager86> brb
[03:32] <pillager86> Yeah disabling secure boot seems to have fixed it already. Thanks for the help! Wish I had known to do that sooner now maybe Minecraft will work right
[03:33] <Bashing-om> pillager86: what shows now in the log file : /var/log/gpu-manager.log .
[03:34] <pillager86> Bashing-om, no errors
[03:34] <pillager86> Skipping "/dev/dri/card0", driven by "nvidia-drm"
[03:35] <Bashing-om> pillager86: Great - and ' sudo lshw -C display ' in the configuration line shows nvidia as the driver ?
[03:35] <pillager86> yes
[03:36] <pillager86> I can't believe it took me a month to realize my nvidia card wasn't set up correctly lol. Ubuntu should come with a warning to disable secure boot when installing.
[03:36] <pillager86> minecraft runs perfectly now
[03:37] <Bashing-om> pillager86: and the OpenGL score is reasonable now ?
[03:38] <arunkumar413> apt-get update and upgrade doesn't update to the latest 20.04 version
[03:39] <pillager86> Bashing-om, yes
[03:39] <pillager86> Reports 4.6 core profile.
[03:39] <pillager86> arunkumar413, I have that same issue. I go to update and nothing.
[03:39] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | arunkumar413
[03:40] <Bashing-om> pillager86: All good then - if the driver built and installed - enable secure boot in the firmware once more :D
[03:41] <pillager86> Bashing-om, what does secure boot do? I'm afraid to reenable it.
[03:41] <pillager86> Because I didn't do anything but disable it to get it working
[03:41] <Bashing-om> pillager86: A protection against malware installing on the computer.
[03:42] <Bashing-om> pillager86: You know for sure that the nvidia driver is "safe" .
[03:44] <Shaan> Hello, I have a bare metal server running Ubuntu, I would like to have it connect to two networks 1) a private internal only LAN 10.x and 2) a Public Internet IP, what would the best way to do accomplish this be without using 2 NICs or two ports?
[03:47] <kenperkins> ok, so I have a fresh install of 20.04 on my main drive, and a new boot partition mounted at /boot (ext4), my previous install of 19.10 is on another drive in the same machine, but it also had a boot partition (/boot/efi), my 19.10 shows up in grub but I can't boot to it
[03:47] <kenperkins> not sure what to do
[03:51] <DumbLDoor> Hello, anyone has an idea on BTRFS?
[03:54] <mesaboogie> Shaan: my router handles this as most do. ... with one cable to the router (as long as your LAN and WAN are both connected to the router. most are.
[03:55] <mesaboogie> Shaan: dhcp to router (Lan IP) and the router routes me to WAN. Simple common setup.
[03:56] <Shaan> mesaboogie: I dont want the router to handle because that means it will downgrade from 40gb to 10gb on the router
[03:56] <Shaan> and it doesn't work well in a production environment
[03:58] <barg> What does it mean if I put quotes around a command e.g. $ "pwd" <ENTER>  it seems to still work
[03:58] <mesaboogie> Shaan: sounds reasonable. and correct you are about a production environment. 2 nics are the best way in that case.
[04:00] <barg> oh i see it just preserves spaces!
[04:02] <Shaan> anyone familiar with vlan and trunking on Ubuntu?
[04:02] <_bradk> not specifically ubuntu but i've done it many times on centos/rhel
[04:03] <mesaboogie> Shaan: https://perlkour.pl/2018/03/vlan-trunking-in-ubuntu-server/
[04:06] <matsaman> barg: what does?
[04:07] <Shaan> mesaboogie: thanks!
[04:08] <mesaboogie> Shaan: yw
[04:09] <DumbLDoor> Is there a system log where one can see application execution etc.?
[04:10] <mesaboogie> DumbLDoor: /var/log/ is where you find the logs. grep it.
[04:10] <mesaboogie> DumbLDoor: If it is not obvious a filename there then grep the logs.
[04:12] <matsaman> DumbLDoor: try /var/log/messages
[04:12] <mesaboogie> Where a desktop application (or cli app) will write logs will depend upon the developer and if the app allows for custom log configuration.
[04:12] <DumbLDoor> mesaboogie and matsaman - ty
[04:13] <mesaboogie>  /var/log/messages is deprecated. use /var/log/syslog. even better get familiar with journalctl.
[04:13] <matsaman> ew
[04:14] <mesaboogie>  messages does not exist on 20.04
[04:14] <Shaan> mesaboogie: is trunking even neccessary or can I just tag one vlan only i,e eth0 for publkic and eth0.10 for 10.x internal network?>
[04:15] <mesaboogie> Shaan: I've always used 2 nics for advanced routing.
[04:15] <Shaan> mesaboogie: is this really advanced routing if you just need 1 public net and 1 private net?
[04:16] <mesaboogie> nope
[04:16] <mesaboogie> but I am giving the easiest answer
[04:17] <DumbLDoor> measbooqie: searching in the wrong place. I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 20.04 over 19.10 and found Desktop Music and Template dirs deleted on the data partition..
[04:17] <Shaan> mesaboogie: given current circumstances, I wont be able to put another physical port in time, so I have to figure out an option that will work using the same port/fiber is there any other option you may be aware of other then vlan?
[04:18] <Shaan> mesaboogie: thank you for your attention to this matter
[04:18] <DumbLDoor> measbooqie: I don't think I can do a scan on history of commands over 1 week to see what exactly happened, maybe I deleted something accidentally. Some BTRFS utils show me a lot of files but not a certain file without extension that is missing
[04:19] <mesaboogie> Shaan: no worries.
[04:20] <mesaboogie> Shaan: here is a straightforward guide :: https://linuxconfig.org/configuring-virtual-network-interfaces-in-linux
[04:23] <mesaboogie> DumbLDoor: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Restore
[04:25] <DumbLDoor> mesaboogie: I tried this and a lot of applications in linux and windows, cannot seem to recover a certain file without extension on my desktop. As of now, I don't see any icons on the desktop, cannot save any file to the desktop
[04:25] <DumbLDoor> mesaboogie: I tried to enable extensions to show icons on desktop, didn't work
[04:25] <DumbLDoor> mesaboogie: I don't see trash icon either
[04:26] <mesaboogie> DumbLDoor: is that when your problem started? when you tried to enable desktop icons?
[04:26] <mesaboogie> DumbLDoor: can you give exact details on what happened and maybe you can get better help here.
[04:28] <DumbLDoor> mesabooqie: Problem happened after installing Ubuntu 20.04 over existing 19.10. This is on an ext partition while the data is on a btrfs partition. I found desktop, templates and music dirs gone..
[04:28] <DumbLDoor> on the data partition.
[04:29] <DumbLDoor> mesabooqie - not only that, the entries were missing in the XDG config file
[04:30] <mesaboogie> DumbLDoor: first doa simple test to narrow this down. sounds like ~/.DOTFILES are conflicting and messed around. Make a new-fresh-test-user ...  logout of your current user, login as your new-fresh-test-user... see if the problem persists or disappeaars. If the issue goes away then it is not system-wide, it is you current users ~/.dotfiles.
[04:31] <DumbLDoor> mesabooqie: ty, I will take a look and let you know
[04:34] <Shaan> mesaboogie: thank you!
[04:34] <mesaboogie> Shaan: all good now?
[04:34] <Shaan> reading will keep you posted
[04:34] <Shaan> looks promising
[04:34] <mesaboogie> yep
[04:53] <bleb> i'm trying to install ubuntu server
[04:53] <bleb> the disk i want to install it on already has some paritions that are in use
[04:54] <bleb> but i have a partition that i can use
[04:54] <bleb> i've reformatted it and told the installer to use it for /
[04:54] <bleb> now the installer wants me to select a boot disk
[04:55] <bleb> when i select the boot disk i want, "use as boot disk" is grayed out
[04:55] <bleb> does anyone know what is wrong or what can be done
[04:56] <bleb> just want to install ubuntu server on this one spare partition
[04:56] <Elouin> Hi, iam on ubuntu 20.04 and need to run rubys bundle. when i try to install ruby-bundler via apt as the cli advices me to it is selecting libruby instead and says everything installed. But bundle still isnt working. Can someone help me?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> !crosspost | bleb
[05:43] <MonsieurBon> What's the correct way of changing the default editor for the console (eg. for git commit)? I tried using select-editor. But whatever I chose, it still uses nano.
[05:45] <matsaman> MonsieurBon: https://wiki.debian.org/TextEditor#For_administrator
[05:45] <matsaman> env | grep -i editor
[05:49] <MonsieurBon> matsaman, I assume setting it with update-alternatives sets it system wide?
[05:49] <matsaman> should do yeah
[05:52] <MonsieurBon> matsaman, thx for your help
[05:52] <MonsieurBon> have a nice day
[06:36] <Belph> I seem to have problems getting a WiFi hotspot to work. journalctl output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s33BWKz75S/ My WiFi Adapter is Belkin N300 (F7D2101) marked as "works out of the box" on help.ubuntu
[06:44] <kvndy> My laptop crashed and on reboot I have no audio. Several reboots. I've tried reinstalling alsa-base and pulseaudio, and checked configurations of pavucontrol and alsamixer, which show that audio is playing... except it's not
[06:44] <kvndy> There are no software updates available.
[06:44] <kvndy> Does anyone have any suggestions?
[06:45] <kvndy> Has this happened to anyone before, or recently?
[06:46] <kvndy> How can I reenable audio on Ubuntu 18.04?
[06:46] <Slart> kvndy: are you sure there isn't a sneaky mute setting somewhere in alsamixer? that's usually the problem I run into when audio stops working
[06:47] <Slart> or that the audio is set to play using digital out or something like that
[06:48] <kvndy> I just unmuted and turned up the volume on everything in alsamixer to no avail
[06:49] <Slart> anything in "dmesg" that looks suspicious? errors?
[06:51] <kvndy> Slart: I wouldn't know how to interperet dmesg output, but there are 5 red lines
[06:51] <kvndy> [    1.223515] Couldn't get size: 0x800000000000000e
[06:51] <kvndy> [    7.096749] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page found
[06:52] <kvndy> etc
[06:52] <Slart> kvndy: try this "dmesg | grep -i audio"
[06:52] <Slart> that should give you some info on what is detected
[06:52] <Slart> don't paste it here, use a pastebin instead
[06:52] <Slart> !pastebin
[06:53] <kvndy> I figured a line or two would be ok to paste output, sorry.
[06:53] <Slart> yea, it is.. no worries.. I just didn't know if there would 20 more lines :D
[06:54] <kvndy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dRCBBn5BjG/
[06:55] <Slart> did you check the "Configuration" tab in pavucontrol?
[06:56] <kvndy> On install, I appended a line to alsa-base.conf to fix an audio crackling noise, I found somewhere online. Maybe this is the problem? `options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1`
[06:57] <Slart> if it worked before you added the line and not after then it might be the culprit... have you tried changing it back?
[06:58] <kvndy> In pavucontrol configuration tab I tried a couple of options, but unplugging and re-inserting headphones and selecting the audio device when in pops up on screen sets it to "Analog Stereo Duplex" which sounds about right
[06:58] <kvndy> Slart: I'm going to try removing that line
[06:58] <Slart> analog stereo duplex should work for normal headphones
[06:59] <kvndy> The line `options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1` is no longer in my alsa-base.conf so I couldn't remove it
[07:00] <Slart> do you have a separate output jack for headphones?
[07:01] <kvndy> It's one of those combination jacks, headphones or headset or mic
[07:01] <kvndy> Just one
[07:02] <Slart> and your audio isn't muted in the "Output Devices" tab in pavucontrol
[07:02] <kvndy> Built in speakers don't work either
[07:04] <kvndy> No, audio is not muted in Output Devices tab in pavucontrol. The line is moving, and showing there is sound on the video or whatever else I'm playing, in real time
[07:04] <Slart> if you run "speaker-test" in a terminal, does that make any sound?
[07:05] <kvndy> I unplugged headphones but speaker-test is not making any sound
[07:06] <kvndy> It's so weird that this happened right after a reboot, it would have to be a software problem, right? Because audio was fine when my laptop froze
[07:06] <Slart> yea, that would make sense
[07:07] <cupcake90> Hi I am using ubuntu 18.04 kvm host anyone https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/y6RQrDDyjM/
[07:08] <cupcake90> dropping to dracut prompt
[07:09] <kvndy> I was wrong about there being no updates. It's giving me "Failed to download repository information. Check your internet connection"
[07:09] <kvndy> (Software Updater that is)
[07:10] <Slart> kvndy: that's... surprising.. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:10] <kvndy> Slart: 18.04
[07:10] <Slart> but updates or no updates.. audio should still work
[07:11] <Slart> ok, one last thing.. can you pastebin the output from "aplay -l" and "pactl list"
[07:12] <kvndy> Slart: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BjjvmYPtVs/
[07:14] <kvndy> Well, I have an unused 2017 Macbook Pro and Ubuntu 20 is out, maybe it's time I installed it on that
[07:15] <kvndy> I never got around to it because I was going to try out Debian
[07:15] <kvndy> But I'll probably just stick with what I know
[07:18] <Slart> ok, I can't really see anything obviously wrong with that pastebin
[07:19] <Slart> it seems everything is enabled, nothing muted, no weird pulseaudio things
[07:19] <Slart> you've checked alsa mixer.. speaker-test doesn't do anything...
[07:19] <Slart> I'm ... out of ideas
[07:23] <kvndy> Hey maybe a fourth restart will do it. Be back soon
[07:23] <Slart> fingers crossed :D
[07:28] <kvndy> I rebooted yet I still have no audio
[07:30] <Slart> strange
[07:31] <Slart> I hope someone else can help you with this, keep those pastebins urls around, they will probably ask for the same info to start with
[07:32] <kvndy> ｡･ﾟﾟ･(>_<;)･ﾟﾟ･｡
[07:34] <kvndy> Going to try this one: `mv ~/.config/pulse ~/.config/old_pulse` then another reboot
[07:51] <dreadkopp> Cheers community, im am running a kinda ancient Dell R610 with dual Xeon X5650 using 18.04 LTS, 4.15.0-99 Kernel. Problem is: with Load at about 50-60% and Temps way in the green CPU is only running at a low 1.6Ghz all Cores. I've seen some 2.ish Ghz right after boot, but never since . Anaybody got any ideas ? https://hastebin.com/zusejebale.sql
[07:52] <kvndy> It didn't work but thanks anyways, Slart
[08:08] <bt40> I want to add ubuntu 16 repositories in ubuntu 18. Please guide
[08:09] <bt40> I want todevelop ubuntu touch. Its certain ppa depend on ubuntu 16 while certain depend on ubuntu 18. So merging is the only option i have
[08:52] <__Milencho> test
[09:05] <pnwise> I have server 18.04 with fail2ban
[09:06] <pnwise> it adds to iptables chains
[09:06] <pnwise> but it does not seems like iptables block these IPs
[09:06] <pnwise> any ideas?
[09:13] <egm1991> How long do other people usually wait to upgrade to the latest LTS? I usually wait 1 yar.
[09:24] <Azitrex> hey guys after a long time i wants to use ubuntu 20.04 but currently i can not to find minimal release just net-installer is there to use, where can i to find Ubuntu 20.04 minimal edition ? maybe at the ubuntu archive ?
[09:29] <Azitrex> i must be used Ubuntu Server 20.04 instead Ubuntu minimal edition ?
[09:35] <oerheks> there is no minimal edition, the regular installer gives a minimal option
[09:40] <CQ> hello, I'm trying to get a rodecaster pro working with audacity 2.3.2 under Ubuntu ... the device shows up with lsusb as Bus 001 Device 002: ID 19f7:0011 RODE Microphones RODECaster Pro ...but I can't seem to select it in audacity . any ideas on how to debug this?
[10:16] <WBfan> Hello, I have a ridiculously basic question.
[10:18] <WBfan> I've been told to run xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx --help, and it doesn't register xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx as a command.
[10:18] <WBfan> I've done cd xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx too.
[10:19] <Andrio> Do you know what xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx is supposed to be?
[10:19] <WBfan> A scraper.
[10:19] <WBfan> Am I misunderstanding what 'run' means?
[10:19] <Andrio> Is it supposed to be in PATH or do you need ./xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx ?
[10:21] <WBfan> Unsure. I've installed it with cargo install --path .
[10:24] <WBfan>  xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx --help to view the list of commands:
[10:24] <WBfan> *Run xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx...
[10:25] <WBfan> But putting cd xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx --help into the terminal doesn't do anything, neither does putting it in quotation marks.
[10:26] <bleb> how would i search for a package that contains a certain file
[10:26] <WBfan> Tried it without the cd, too.
[10:26] <bleb> the file i need is libcryptopp.so.8
[10:27] <oerheks> !find libcryptopp.so.8
[10:29] <grawity> WBfan: can you check if the file is maybe in ~/.cargo/bin/ or ~/.local/bin/ ?
[10:29] <grawity> WBfan: also, 'cd' does not work that way
[10:30] <WBfan> I have ~/xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxx$ now, does that help?
[10:30] <grawity> no
[10:30] <bleb> oerheks: isn't that searching for package names, not file names in a package?
[10:30] <bleb> at least thats what the results page says
[10:31] <oerheks> sometimes it finds it directly..
[10:31] <WBfan> It has cargo.lock and cargo.toml?
[10:31] <oerheks> libcrypto++6 i guess
[10:31] <grawity> bleb: you can select "package contents" from the dropdown, and I believe there is `apt-file`?
[10:45] <Hamilton> I'm on 18.04. Can I just download a deb file for an app which has a newer version on 20.04? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zathura
[10:47] <akem> Hamilton, It may not work, because of dependencies etc, you should use the one for 18.04, or upgrade.
[10:48] <Hamilton> akem, I can't upgrade because of another package that I use which has strong dependenies on 18.04. Can I just try installing the newer deb file? What is the worse that could happen?
[10:50] <CQ> Hamilton, worst is that the app doesn't work. Ok wants tons of dependencies whic hdon't exist. Maybe check ig the app is in one of the backports somewhere?
[10:50] <grawity> the newer .deb file might have strong dependencies on 20.04 in the same way
[10:50] <Hamilton> CQ http://i.imgur.com/muXaNpe.png
[10:51] <neure> hi
[10:51] <akem> Looks like you need to update if you want this version.
[10:51] <Hamilton> CQ, akem did I just mess my apt or nothing changed?
[10:52] <akem> Hamilton, No, nothing change, it just told you it cannot be installed.
[10:52] <akem> Because of dependencies isssues.
[10:52] <Hamilton> akem, Can I make build install it? Is it advisable to install an app outside of package manager
[10:52] <CQ> hamilton, if you really need the package, then I would run either the old or the new one in a virtual machine with that OS. Install virtualbox, and set up a minimal system there
[10:52] <akem> Hamilton, No.
[10:52] <neure> I have two drives on my computer, I currently have operating systems and grub on disc 1. Can I install grub to disc 2 but keep it booting the operating systems on disc 1?
[10:52] <grawity> Hamilton: I would first try building the .deb using dpkg tools
[10:55] <Hamilton> grawity, So git clone the source, make build, then use dpkg to create a deb. Then install the deb using 18.04 apt?
[11:11] <wbfan> Hi, I'm back. Can someone help me with a ridiculously basic problem? https://pastebin.com/6H6fwAyn
[11:12] <wbfan> i have no idea what I'm doing.
[11:14] <tatertots> wbfan: you spelled firsfox instead of firefox first of all...and you should just explain your problem(s) because that particular pastebin isn't of much value
[11:14] <oerheks> a command with quotes? 'cargo install --path' ....
[11:14] <wbfan> sure, i just copied everything. Could you look more towards the bottom?
[11:15] <wbfan> I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING D:
[11:15] <grawity> what you're doing is running random paths and hoping that one will work
[11:15] <wbfan> yep
[11:15] <oerheks> and what Rust guide do you follow?
[11:15] <grawity> what you *should* be doing is figuring out how to list files in a folder
[11:16] <wbfan> oerheks, that's still way over my head
[11:16] <grawity> e.g. you're trying to run ~/.cargo/bin as a program – but it's actually a folder, as the message confirms
[11:16] <wbfan> i have literally no idea what I'm doing
[11:16] <grawity> so run e.g. `ls ~/.cargo/bin` or `ls -l ~/.cargo/bin` or even just open that path in the graphical file manager, and look at whether it has the file (program) that you want
[11:17] <grawity> that's the main thing you're missing, I think
[11:18] <tripelb> 20.04 screen verucals dont line up and display unusable but top panel fine -- in mate AND xubuntu -- ubuntu is fine. No answer from their channels. (Same horrible adding their de to ubuntu)
[11:18] <wbfan> okay, that does have the program I want, it showed rust-wildbow-scraper in a nice green color. Now what?
[11:18] <tripelb> Does anyone know what is the difference?
[11:18] <grawity> if you have a program named "rust-wildbow-scraper" in the ~/.cargo/bin folder, then you can run it like this:
[11:18] <grawity> ~/.cargo/bin/rust-wildbow-scraper
[11:19] <wbfan> thank you :0
[11:19] <grawity> maybe with --help or other options added
[11:19] <wbfan> it worked!
[11:19] <wbfan> Thank you so much :)
[11:28] <tripelb> SOLVED:   20.04 screen verucals dont line up and display unusable but top panel fine -- in mate AND xubuntu -- ubuntu is fine. No answer from their channels. (Same horrible adding their de to ubuntu)  which in these things is unlike the other?
[11:28] <tripelb> [04:28:06] <tripelb> Hello someone in xubuntu found the issue  bluesabre> tripelb: does it look like this? https://twitter.com/Xubuntu/status/1255542362287333378
[11:29] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:35] <ken_q> hey for someone reason i can't install packages. i updated. i checked dependencies. this happened after i installed pip3... which is also having problems installing software.
[11:39] <DocMors> ken_q, how about an error message or do you just want us to commiserate?
[11:40] <ken_q> E:Unable to locate package ...
[11:40] <ken_q> DocMors:
[11:41] <DocMors> check the package name and do an apt update
[11:51] <Squarism> The problem of reconfiguring the Ibus shortcut for entering unicode characters (CTRL + SHIFT + u) seems to be a long running problem on Ubuntu. Why not have all shortcuts defined in ubuntu settings rather than spread all over?
[11:52] <Squarism> my main problem is that it conflicts with other programs.
[11:52] <Squarism> And I could care less for entering unicode characters =D
[11:53] <ken_q> DocMors: i already did that... it's mainly with my pip3 i'm trying to install a package and it is saying i don't have a dependency and the apt install is saying it is already installed
[11:53] <ken_q> also... the latency when i punch the command in before it actually tells me the error for pip3 is staggering
[11:54] <DocMors> ken_q, I'm going t ignore you till you paste the command and the full output into https://paste.ubuntu.com/
[11:57] <Shaan> what is the purpose of ubuntu virtual interfaces?
[11:57] <lauxley> Hello anybody has experience with cuda&cudn install, trying to upgrade from 9.2 to 10.2 I get the following error: https://dpaste.org/G7is
[11:57] <grawity> Shaan: which virtual interfaces do you mean?
[11:58] <ken_q> DocMors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Gc2PSBkyV6/
[11:58] <Shaan> Hello, I have a bare metal server running Ubuntu, I would like to have it connect to two networks 1) a private internal only LAN 10.x and 2) a Public Internet IP, what would the best way to do accomplish this be without using 2 NICs or two ports?
[11:58] <Shaan> grawity: I am trying to figure out the best approach if I should use virtual interface or vlans
[11:58] <grawity> Shaan: that depends on how those networks are currently set up physically
[11:59] <Shaan> grawity: all servers are on the same switch
[11:59] <grawity> are both public & private subnets on the same interface on the router?
[12:00] <grawity> (or are there multiple routers?)
[12:00] <Shaan> grawity: I would like to have both public and private on the single interface, so that way I dont need to run a seperate physical network
[12:00] <grawity> VLANs would be apropriate *if* the network was already using VLANs for this purpose
[12:00] <grawity> yeah I got that, that's not what I asked about
[12:01] <Shaan> sorry maybe I misunderstood
[12:01] <Shaan> grawity: currently we a single router, as for the public and private nets on the router, I could put them on the same interface I have not gotten to the router config part yet, as I was hoping someone could shed some light on the best approach
[12:03] <grawity> right, okay then... (I'd say do the router config part first – decide what your network will look like, then configure the servers to match it)
[12:03] <grawity> you *could* set up both subnets on the same interface; is that what you meant by "virtual interfaces"?
[12:04] <Shaan> grawity: well I noticed there is two ways to go about getting my task accomplished one was VLANs, and the other i reckon a bit crude maybe?, was to use Virtual Interfaces
[12:07] <grawity> "virtual interfaces" does not really say much
[12:07] <grawity> are you talking about things like eth0:1, eth0:2?
[12:10] <Shaan> grawity: yes
[12:11] <grawity> ah right; on Linux those haven't really been necessary for 15 years or so – you can just... literally put two subnets on the same interface nowadays.
[12:17] <whitekidney> I am unable to start xorg on my machine (20.04) and I'm not sure what could be wrong. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D8Vp3Wz7VR/ (xorg log)
[12:25] <ioria> whitekidney, some details about your system ? kernel, graphics, DE , drivers in use
[12:26] <whitekidney> ioria: latest gnome, 5.4.3-acso (kernel with acs patch), amdgpu 18.2.0
[12:29] <ioria> whitekidney, uname -r
[12:29] <whitekidney> 5.4.3-acso
[12:29] <DocMors> ken_q, have you tried to install the missing package? there seems to be quite few
[12:29] <whitekidney> sorry, thought i pasted that
[12:30] <whitekidney> https://queuecumber.gitlab.io/linux-acs-override/ - should only contain the ACS override patch and nothing else
[12:32] <ioria> whitekidney, can you boot with the stock kernel 5.4.0.29.34 ?
[12:41] <akkonrad> hey. recently my laptop (dell 5540) started to be unusable - it freezes randomly. I don't recall I've installed something, but could it be by some 3rd party app? or how to diagnose this issue? it's ubuntu 19.10 and I've tried to upgrade it to 20.04
[12:42] <akkonrad> tried another distro (unity, mate) but does not make a difference
[12:42] <akkonrad> I've got windows on another disk on that laptop and it works perfectly
[12:43] <akkonrad> how to diagnose the issue?
[12:51] <PeGaSuS> hello everyone. I've been reading about TimeShift to make backups (snapshots) of my system. did anyone used it? if so, could someone give me some insights about it?
[12:54] <PeGaSuS> if I go with the standard settings, when restoring a backup, I assume that my personal files will still be there?
[12:56] <DocMors> ken_q, also is there a reason you are not trying it via apt? There is actually a package named python3-pygame
[13:06] <DocMors> satanist to cookiejar not bad :)
[13:08] <StevenJayCohen> PeGaSuS: I went with Backups (Deja Dupe) instead. It is designed for a home dir backup (per user). I'm not certain about TimeShift, but if you use both, you'll know that it was backedup for certain.
[13:09] <StevenJayCohen>  * PeGaSuS: I went with Backups (Deja Dupe) instead. It is designed for a home dir backup (per user). I'm not certain about TimeShift, but if you use both, you'll know that it was backed up for certain.
[13:10] <PeGaSuS> for what I can see, we can specify certain parameters in the TimeShift settings. at least, my home for I'll backup
[13:12] <StevenJayCohen> Someone who knows more than I will chime in soon. Just saying that I've had good results with DeJa Dupe (Backups).
[13:12] <__marco> Hello. I am trying to configure openssl to work with TLS 1.0 connections
[13:13] <__marco> This is the configuration I added to /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf: https://bpaste.net/U3XA
[13:13] <PeGaSuS> I forgot to mention that I'm using Xubuntu 19.10
[13:13] <StevenJayCohen> PeGaSuS: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/DejaDup
[13:13] <__marco> still I get an error: SSL Provider: [error:1425F102:SSL routines:ssl_choose_client_version:unsupported protocol]
[13:13] <PeGaSuS> StevenJayCohen: I'll take a look at it and I'll probably use both :)
[13:14] <PeGaSuS> as I don't have much to lose
[13:14] <__marco> In another Debian machine I had the same error and solved using this configuration, but with 20.04 it does not help
[13:14] <hggdh> __marco: openssl 1.1 and above do not support SSL (any version) TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1
[13:15] <grawity> hmm fairly sure they do support TLSv1.0, only disable by default via @SECLEVEL
[13:15] <StevenJayCohen> __marco: best to put it all in 1 post so that someone scrolling through can see the entire question. Remember, someone in the room right now might not know your answer, but someone showing up later and scrolling through might. SO, putting it all in 1 post is helpful to everyone
[13:16] <__marco> hggdh: thanks for your answer. I checked and the Debian machine also has installed libssl1.0.0
[13:16] <grawity> but older protocols can be re-enabled via openssl.cnf if you Really Want To
[13:17] <grawity> (well, older TLS versions – definitely not SSL anymore)
[13:17] <__marco> grawity: wait, this is what I am doing with my conf: https://bpaste.net/U3XA
[13:18] <__marco> So, when hggdh says that they are not supported anymore, for me it means that the code is gone
[13:26] <hggdh> __marco:__m
[13:26] <hggdh> __marco: I was wrong, sorry
[13:27] <__marco> hggdh: I was checking this page: https://wiki.openssl.org/index.php/OpenSSL_1.1.0_Changes and no mentions about TLS1.0
[13:34] <kenperkins> ok, so I need some help; trying to install a second os on a different device last night, apparently there was a windows boot partition on the other device my linux install needed, now I can't get into my main os
[13:34] <kenperkins> currently, I get kicked to the emergency console
[13:35] <kenperkins> (which I blew away everything on the other device, it was an old windows install)
[13:36] <oerheks> kenperkins, reinstall grub with the live iso and the grub factoid
[13:36] <oerheks> !grub
[13:37] <kenperkins> my main is 19.10, i was trying 20.04 on a second install
[13:37] <kenperkins> oerheks ok, is a live iso different than the install iso?
[13:37] <oerheks> oh, nice chainloading of 2 grubs?
[13:38] <kenperkins> I'm not sure exactly, I haven't really done multi-install of linux before
[13:38] <oerheks> live iso different than the install iso? no
[13:38] <kenperkins> so I can use the install usb for the live iso?
 having snap devices in fdisk -l while in recovery mode
[13:41] <kenperkins> makes me want to kill myself
[13:45] <kenperkins> ok, /dev/nvme0n1 (new device) has p1 (ext4 boot partition) and p2 (20.04), /dev/sda has sda2 (efi boot), sda3 (unused i believe), and sda5 (19.10)
[13:46] <kenperkins> I feel like there's some contention or problem between the /dev/nvme0n1p1 boot and /dev/sda2 efi boot
[13:47] <kenperkins> I have 4 redlines in my journalctl -xb (but these aren't new, they were there back when I had windows partitions on nvme)
[13:47] <kenperkins> MODSIGN: Couldn't get UEFI db list
[13:48] <kenperkins> isbhid 1-10.2:1.2: couldn't find an input interrupt endpoint
[13:48] <kenperkins> usbhid*
[13:49] <Maizum>  /msg alis LIST * -min
[13:51] <Squarism> is it ubuntu or ibus that decided that ibus can hog a bunch of hotkeys?
[13:51] <Squarism> ...some not to far out to conflict with many programs?
[13:57] <grawity> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Ctrl+Shift+U has been the "Unicode input" key in GTK since 2005, before ibus even existed
[14:04] <aLeSD>  /join #android
[14:11] <ken_q> DocMors: hey i tried to install those files
[14:11] <ken_q> i'm getting the error that they're not available.
[14:12] <ken_q> DocMors: when i use apropos or similar commands like the tab-auto-completion, it seems to state these packages then give that error.
[14:12] <kenperkins_> ok so i'm trying to figure out if the problem with my boot is related to the MODSIGN: couldn't get UEFI db; I confirmed there's no drive corruption
[14:12] <kenperkins_> basically, I'm stuck in emergy mode and I can't get out
[14:13] <kenperkins_> emergency*
[14:13] <ken_q> kenperkins_ if the drive is corrupted, it may be irrecoverable
[14:13] <kenperkins_> it's not corrupted
[14:15] <kenperkins> i just can't get it to boot
[14:16] <ken_q> is the device coming up in the boot manager?
[14:18] <ken_q> kenperkins: this might help https://askubuntu.com/questions/1148387/modsign-couldnt-get-uefi-db-list-couldnt-get-size-0x800000000000000e
[14:18] <kenperkins> Yea, I saw that ken_q; it h has no effect
[14:18] <kenperkins> can you be specific when you say the "boot manager", do you mean grub?
[14:18] <kenperkins> boot configuration is a huge area of infamiliarity for me with linux
[14:19] <ken_q> idk... i'm not an expert on linux
[14:19] <ken_q> i have a problem with my package management tools. apt install is telling me files exist but then unable to locate the package
[14:23] <kenperkins> mostly, I don't know what my next steps are
[14:23] <kenperkins> does each linux install need it's own boot partition?
[14:24] <ken_q> is this a fresh install... then this problem start occuring?
[14:24] <ken_q> ubuntu should setup the dd correctly
[14:24] <ocean> kenperkins: you might not have the correct repository enabled (if your error is unable to locate xyz). The package you're trying to install is python3-pygame?
[14:24] <kenperkins> I think that was mean for ken_q ocean
[14:24] <ocean> yeah, sorry
[14:25] <kenperkins> my problem is my 19.10 install is going straight to emergency mode
[14:26] <ocean> so, ken_q, run apt-cache policy python3-pygame, that will tell you in which repo the package is located
[14:38] <BlueShark_> Hi. I'm trying to attach gdb to a running process, but it fails with an error 'Debugger exited'. /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope is set to 0, so I don't see why it's happening. Any ideas?
[14:58] <Bombo> i got a problem with midnight commander (mc) on ubuntu, it does not show the speed when i copy files e.g. to an usb stick, on debian it does, i compiled the same version i got on debian on ubuntu, but on ubuntu speed doesn't show up, any ideas on this?
[15:00] <enriooooooo> oom killer doesn't work :( but just freeze
[15:14] <openstruct> I'm coming from MacOS and cannot figure out how to navigate to the end of a line when I'm outside the terminal. On MacOS it's ctrl + a or ctrl + e and it works everywhere.
[15:14] <openstruct> Is that something I can replicate or is the shortcut different for Ubuntu?
[15:16] <oerheks> openstruct, how about the 'end' key, on standard pc keyboard?
[15:17] <oerheks> for all short keys> systemsettings > devices > keyboard
[15:18] <openstruct> oerheks: That's certainly an option, but I was hoping to get some level of parity since I still need to work on a mac occasionally. I don't currently have that key mapped on my keyboard.
[15:18] <oerheks> oh oke, then there is no end function
[15:19] <openstruct> Actually...I bet I can program my keyboard to send 'end' when I press ctrl + e. Thanks for confirming!
[15:19] <oerheks> then maybe this answer is a help, what keys to choose to program https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/16135/remap-home-and-end-to-beginning-and-end-of-line
[15:21] <openstruct> It's kinda funny coming from MacOS. There's a whole bunch of keys I've never used before and they feel slightly archaic.
[15:21] <okdana> a long time ago i tried getting xfce / gtk apps to work like macos, starting with remapping all of the short-cuts to use super/meta instead of ctrl
[15:21] <openstruct> Was it worth the effort?
[15:22] <okdana> i was partially successful, but it just doesn't work like macos, most of the apps live in their own little world and you'll never get consistency
[15:22] <openstruct> That is disheartening, but it makes sense.
[15:23] <okdana> even macos is having that problem now since everything uses electron or w/e and it only partially respects things like that
[15:24] <openstruct> 95% of my life is spent in the terminal, Slack, and Firefox so it may not be too bad to remap for those.
[15:25] <tieinv> okdana: what's an w/e
[15:25] <okdana> it *used* to be pretty easy to remap key bindings in firefox, but i don't think web extensions support it
[15:25] <okdana> tieinv: whatever
[15:26] <tieinv> then please type whatever
[15:26] <okdana> i will consider it
[15:26] <oerheks> tieinv, let it go
[15:27] <tieinv> oerheks: i did
[15:28] <tieinv> oerheks: i was curious and i was polite
[15:30] <okdana> anyway, i came here to ask about something weird in focal: basically, in several cases, i can't write to a file in a directory with the sticky bit set, even as root
[15:30] <okdana> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7FWY4KzRsD/
[15:30] <okdana> would anyone here be able to confirm that behaviour? and do you know why it might be?
[15:30] <okdana> i can't think why it'd be like that
[15:31] <okdana> i should have added it to the paste, but if i clear the sticky bit on the directory, it works again
[15:35] <oerheks> owner of +T and root should be able to write to that folder.
[15:38] <okdana> oh i realised i mistyped the sudo tee example, it actually doesn't work there either
[15:38] <okdana> not just the shell then
[15:42] <ioria> okdana, just an idea of what can be : https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=30aba6656f61ed44cba445a3c0d38b296fa9e8f5
[15:43] <okdana> aha
[15:43] <okdana> that does sound likely
[15:44] <okdana> thank you
[15:44] <ioria> okdana,  https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/503111/group-permissions-for-root-not-working-in-tmp
[15:47] <ioria> okdana,  test with fs.protected_regular = 0 and fs.protected_regular = 1   (if that's the case)
[15:48] <okdana> yeah it's set to 2
[15:48] <okdana> changing it to 1 seems to sort it
[15:49] <okdana> it's unclear to me whether it's intended that the restriction also applies to root, but you wouldn't think so, right
[16:05] <pa> hi
[16:06] <pa> any way to downgrade a system? :-)
[16:06] <pa> (w/o reinstalling)
[16:06] <oerheks> pa, no.
[16:08] <pa> well my fault.. i shouldnt have upgraded.. it's most of the times broken even when it's not. I will now proceed to pack my stuff and reinstall :'(
[16:08] <DJones> pa: No, reinstall is the only way
[16:08] <oerheks> ZFS and snapshots, could be your friend in the future.
[16:09] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/using-zfs-snapshots-clones#1-overview
[16:12] <huwjr> where is the focal version of thtis link pls? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64
[16:13] <huwjr> i specifically want the image, the netboot image url.
[16:14] <oerheks> focal mini iso ?? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[16:15] <huwjr> need a direct link to the netboot, but can’t find it anywhere without downloading the iso first
[16:15] <oerheks> oh, you would neet the server iso.. or the old legacy http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images/netboot/mini.iso
[16:22] <huwjr> virt-install can’t handle that URL
[16:25] <huwjr> so now i have to download that, extract it to a directory structure that virt-install can handlle (not an uncommon tool) and maintain my own copy of it
[16:25] <huwjr> feel like we’re stepping backwards in time :)
[16:25] <oerheks> huwjr, that would be a regular way to do so
[16:26] <huwjr> unnecessary steps and no way to handle updates without re-blowing it all the time seems mad
[16:30] <cxc99> does ubuntu 18.04 have a update-crypto-policy-like command? trying to get sssd to work with an older ldap server using tls. works in 16.04 but not 18.04 thought it might be the tls ciphers
[16:33] <pa> oerheks, i was skeptical about the advantage of zfs over ext4 for a PC, but now i see :-)
[17:11] <kenperkins> ok, so I'm stuck on some combination of bios features and boot configuratoin that's making my 19.10 ubuntu install unable to get out of emergency mode
[17:13] <jfcaron_> In Ubuntu 20.04,if you just type "python" at the command-line, do you get python 2.7 or 3.x?
[17:13] <jfcaron_> (I don't have 20.04 installed to check myself)
[17:16] <tieinv> jfcaron_: i typed python3 and got version 3.8.2
[17:18] <ioria> jfcaron_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Python3_by_default
[17:18] <oerheks> 20.04 comes with python3, python2.7 is optional
[17:19] <cybercrypto> jajabro1: based on release notes, default python is version 3
[17:20] <Deano59> where can I upload a picture of a problem I'm having with a new pc?
[17:21] <Deano59> imgur? postimage?
[17:21] <kenperkins> so my 20.04 destkop live usb does a checking disk every boot up, is that normal?
[17:22] <Deano59> https://imgur.com/a/VO0yuR5
[17:22] <Deano59> I can boot ubuntu minimal, I get the how to install, command line, advance etc then I click one of them and that ^ happens?
[17:22] <oerheks> live usb does not touch your hdd until you say so
[17:23] <Deano59> I've tried different monitors/cables.
[17:23] <kenperkins> oerheks: ty, so is that the usb checking itself?
[17:23] <Deano59> kenperkins, it's a 20.04 feature, happens to everyone. nothing to worry about, you can cancel it like I do.
[17:24] <ioria> Deano59, a vga parameter,maybe
[17:24] <kenperkins> Deano59: ty
[17:24] <Deano59> ioria, you mean in my bios?
[17:24] <ioria> Deano59, nope
[17:24] <Deano59> then?
[17:25] <Deano59> it's a brand new pc that was only built today.
[17:25] <ioria> Deano59, you said you can start the mini.iso , rught ?
[17:25] <Deano59> yes
[17:25] <Deano59> but can't go further to install.
[17:25] <ioria> Deano59, so press 'e' and add it to the kernel line
[17:25] <jfcaron_> tieinv, ioria Thanks, that release note clears it up.
[17:26] <ioria> Deano59, the problem isthe value
[17:26] <ioria> jfcaron_, ok
[17:26] <Deano59> so how to solve it?
[17:26] <ioria> Deano59, try vga=ask
[17:26] <Deano59> because it's happening with clonezilla too.
[17:26] <Deano59> see above.
[17:26] <tieinv> jfcaron_: your welcome
[17:26] <oerheks> new pc, what GPU exactly?
[17:27] <ioria> Deano59, ah, no ideaabout clonezilla
[17:27] <ioria> Deano59, try nomodeset
[17:28] <Deano59> how? it's a mini.iso ;P
[17:28] <ioria> Deano59, and ? i told you you can edit the boot parameters
[17:31] <pa> it seems that glXCreatePbuffer isn't working in 20.04?
[17:32] <pa> possible?
[17:40] <Aktive> Anyone can help me make my mouse speed faster with xinput perhaps ?
[17:45] <Deano59> sorry ioria had to d/c, rubbish night. anyway, what was you saying to do? in clonezilla, if I do "vga=normal" it works fine, it says "safe graphics"
[17:45] <Deano59> guessing I need something like that for ubuntu?
[17:46] <ioria> Deano59, mini.iso might give that problem, yes
[17:46] <Deano59> huh?
[17:48] <Deano59> not sure what you're on about ioria
[17:48] <oerheks> first suggestion is nomodeset as bootoption
[17:48] <ioria> the firts was vga
[17:49] <oerheks> not sure why a simple mini iso gives a garbled screen, what gpu is this?
[17:49] <ioria> oerheks, it happens
[17:50] <Deano59> Client: HexChat 2.14.3 • OS: Ubuntu "focal" 20.04 • CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with Radeon Vega Graphics (1.29GHz) • Memory: 5.7 GiB Total (4.4 GiB Free) • Storage: 225.5 GB / 3.0 TB (2.8 TB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Picasso @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h • Uptime: 7m 26s
[17:51] <Deano59> my specs ^
[17:51] <ioria> Deano59, i suggested you to use the vga parameter in the kernel command line
[17:52] <Deano59> yeah I've never had to do it before.... what do I put exactly?
[17:52] <ioria> Deano59, one of this : https://www.pendrivelinux.com/vga-boot-modes-to-set-screen-resolution/  ; ifit fails try 'nomodeset' (or before, as you like)
[17:53] <Deano59> clonezilla's "vga=normal" is what on that site?
[17:53] <Deano59> because that worked.
[17:54] <oerheks> .. so, you only need it for the installer to boot.
[17:55] <Deano59> ?
[17:55] <oerheks> i wonder what happens if you just use the standard iso
[17:56] <Deano59> oerheks, standard iso is fine.
[17:56] <Deano59> 18.04, 20.04 it happens to, and clonezilla. clonezilla's vga=normal boot options worked fine.
[17:56] <oerheks> it is a new pc, did you check for bios updates?
[17:57] <Deano59> new pc built a few hours ago and yes, done bios updates first.
[17:57] <oerheks> well, have fun then
[17:57] <Deano59> ?
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> ryzen does have known issues on latest kernels
[17:57] <Deano59> yeah I've been looking on Google. ;P
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> Deano59: your best bet is tracking the right !bug or file a new one yourself
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> and do what the volunteers adviced above ofc :p
[17:59] <Deano59> I don't mind, it's working with the standard iso, it's just the mini's and the clonezilla.
[17:59] <Deano59> lol
[17:59] <Deano59> I'm gonna go and try something :) bbs
[18:07] <Deano59> ioria, e isn't an option, "tab" is though and I set to "vga=normal" instead of "vga=788" and it worked. :)
[18:08] <ioria> Deano59, ok
[18:08] <Deano59> and now I'm off to install. thanks so much. :)
[18:08] <ioria> no prob
[18:16] <curloxide> holy crap
[18:16] <curloxide> https://github.com/tom2238/apt-encoder
[18:16] <curloxide> the make files are a mess
[18:17] <curloxide> has anyone compiled this
[18:18] <openstruct> Another coming from MacOS question. I use airpods daily for remote calls but cannot get them to work reliably with Ubuntu. Other bluetooth headsets work, but these have the best audio/mic combination that I own. Are apple products none to be problematic?
[18:19] <openstruct> *known to be
[18:21] <curloxide> is it choppy audio?
[18:21] <openstruct> Nah, the mic doesn't work at all. I can also only connect via CLI.
[18:21] <cybercrypto> openstruct: they are not known to be problematic. they are known to be great, since you use their hardware and software together :-)
[18:22] <curloxide> Mic?
[18:22] <curloxide> Is that a separate bluetooth device, or is it integrated into the airpods?
[18:23] <openstruct> Yeah, they have a built-in mic so they act as a headset. My current guess is that my bluetooth driver is the problem but I have no data to back that up.
[18:24] <curloxide> There's different BLuetooth audio profiles: A2DP Source streams good quality audio to the headset, but no mic
[18:25] <curloxide> The HSP/HFP profile uses both, but sounds like telephone quality
[18:25] <curloxide> It might be using the A2DP profile
[18:26] <openstruct> Hmm my other headset mic works with A2DP. I can confirm the airpods are using A2DP. Pulseaudio shows the HSP/HDP profile but says it is unavailable.
[18:28] <openstruct> Nah, I'm wrong about my other headset. It is using HSP. I didn't know it had trash quality...these usually sound pretty good when I take calls from my Mac. Better than folks using their laptop or webcam mic.
[18:29] <a90c> how can i install Amd R7 240 drivers for 20.04?
[18:29] <a90c> its very old graphic card.
[18:29] <curloxide> Huh.
[18:29] <curloxide> Now I'm curious...
[18:30] <curloxide> "My current guess is that my bluetooth driver is the problem" You're probably right
[18:32] <openstruct> Perhaps this will be the catalyst for my first journey into linux to debug. I know nothing about drivers, but gotta start somewhere.
[18:33] <curloxide> I gotta go do some other stuff.
[18:33] <curloxide> I guess try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetoothhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth
[18:33] <curloxide> wups
[18:33] <curloxide> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth
[18:33] <openstruct> curloxide: Thanks!
[18:33] <curloxide> openstruct: np
[18:34] <ash_worksi> is it possible to for bash to be highlighted in the terminal like fish?
[18:34] <ash_worksi> I just really don't like fish
[18:39] <SoundShaman> i have a wifi issue
[18:40] <SoundShaman> i'm using ubuntu studio 20.04
[18:41] <SoundShaman> here's what i have
[18:41] <SoundShaman> cpu quad core intel core 15
[18:41] <SoundShaman> speed/mem/max 600/400/4200 mghz
[18:41] <SoundShaman> kernel: 5.4.0-26-low latency x86_64
[18:41] <SoundShaman> HP 17-BY2012NA
[18:59] <ioria> SoundShaman, what's your chipset ? lspci -nnk | grep -i net -A 3
[19:23] <ash_worksi> ppl in bash wont help me understand why this isn't feasible; I am okay that it's not, but it'd help me cope with the loss of not being able to if I knew why, so here goes: why does `find . $(printf -- '-name filename')` work but not `find . $(printf -- '-name "filename"')`
[19:25] <oerheks> seem like that filename does not need ""
[19:27] <leftyfb> ash_worksi: please don't crosspost. Someone is helping you in #bash. They just gave you an answer
[19:27] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: yeah, abrasively... if you scroll up, you'll see what I mean
[19:27] <ash_worksi> I mean much earlier
[19:28] <leftyfb> ash_worksi: I know all about them. But they did eventually give you valid answers
[19:29] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: greycat makes it hard to want to re-ask `but WHY!` when you just get flamed
[19:32] <ash_worksi> leftyfb: see what I mean?
[19:32] <Mibix> so I mounted a new drive and its fstab entry is the same as all my other drives and its mounted to /mnt/R
[19:32] <Mibix> ive even sudo chown mibix:mibix /mnt/R
[19:33] <Mibix> also sudo chmod 555 -R /mnt/R
[19:33]  * ash_worksi didn't know the option could come after the mode
[19:33] <Mibix> still cant create a folder with basic user
[19:41] <tomreyn> Mibix: if all the fstab entries are the same, then the same file system would be repeatedly mounted at the same location. i assume you're saying they look similar, but not the same? recursive chmod 555 is going to prevent users from entering directories.
[19:43] <Mibix> oh no they are slightly different like the UUIDs and mount points
[19:43] <Mibix> but essentially the same
[19:43] <tomreyn> you should discuss file system types, mount options, and probably provide examples
[19:44] <Mibix> UUID=0b3f4b37-34ef-424a-b7d0-8a88844b0b32 /mnt/L ext4 defaults,x-gvfs-name=10TB%20L,x-gvfs-show,nofail 0 1
[19:44] <Mibix> UUID=49a0eb2a-d10a-4e14-96c5-4c8a41f8a70f /mnt/R ext4 defaults,x-gvfs-name=12TB%20R,x-gvfs-show,nofail 0 1
[19:44] <tomreyn> also the error message you encounter trying to access the location from a terminal, running as the restricted user.
[19:44] <Mibix> L works fine R is new and doesnt
[19:45] <Mibix> i dont remember ever having to mess with permissions like this when i mounted drives before :/
[19:45] <tomreyn> maybe you mounted those differently then, or it was a different file system type
[19:45] <tomreyn> last but not least: which ubuntu release + kernel are you running
[19:45] <Mibix> 18.04
[19:46] <Mibix> nah i formatted them all the same too lol
[19:48] <Mibix> lol changed permissions in gui and it worked
[19:48] <Mibix> last ditch effort haha
[20:05] <ELQEYNN> Hi.
[20:06] <ELQEYNN> I heard that the Ubuntu distro was developed in South Africa.
[20:08] <oerheks> ELQEYNN, hi, yes the founder is South African/Brittish .. and has a Dutch passport too, iirc
[20:08] <oerheks> !sabdfl
[20:22] <kenperkins> ok so boot-repair completely fixed my issues, oerheks
[20:23] <kenperkins> that was nice to discover, although it was still opaque (when doing the manual steps in boot-repair) if I should install grub on every device or not
[20:23] <kenperkins> does each physical device need a boot partition? one per computer?
[20:23] <kenperkins> how does that work
[20:34] <javaJake> I am looking to update my 19.04 server to 20.04 and the official docs recommend running "do-release-upgrade -d" which according to the man page is going to push me to a development release. Is this standard procedure or is this because 20.04 is not being pushed as an official upgrade path yet?
[20:35] <Bashing-om> !ltsupgrade | javaJake
[20:37] <oerheks> upgrade path for 19.10 - 20.04 is ready soon
[20:38] <javaJake> Ahh, makes sense. I think I remember this being the case in last releases. Thanks Bashing-om
[20:39] <Bashing-om> javaJake: :D Glad I could alleviate some pain .
[20:40] <javaJake> I'm glad I asked first before upgrading. This is not clear in both the Ubuntu blog post and the release notes, at least not where I saw.
[20:40] <oerheks> kenperkins, when you have multiple linux versions, which one controls grub?
[20:40] <oerheks> when they are on its own device, chainloading is the easy was
[20:41] <oerheks> c/way
[20:46] <mesaboogie> oerheks: pretty much only need one linux distro to control grub... but if not, the last one to write grub controls it.
[20:47] <jfcaron_> Does hashable imply immutable?
[20:47] <oerheks> mesaboogie, indeed, he has 2x nvme , so i guess there could be an UEFI thing too
[20:48] <Bashing-om> mesaboogie: I too multi-boot - I disable os-prober in the secondary installs.
[20:48] <mesaboogie> Bashing-om: perfect way.
[20:48] <pavlos> jfcaron_: immutable=cannot be changed over time
[20:49] <mesaboogie> Bashing-om: 2x ssd and 1 hdd here and I use one distro to control grub as well.
[20:50] <pavlos> jfcaron_: in python terms, they are equivalent
[20:52] <Bashing-om> mesaboogie: redacted file server here - 2x SSDs, and 4 spinners. Took me a bit of time and effort to learn grub.
[20:52] <jfcaron_> pavlos, Thx.
[20:52] <mesaboogie> Bashing-om: yes, I know what you mean. Grub can be... elusive and ominous.
[20:53] <mesaboogie> Bashing-om: Then I learned certain aspects and it became clearer. (after a couple of headaches)
[20:54] <mesaboogie> Bashing-om: how do you disable os-prober in the secondayr installs? in the grub.cfg ?
[20:54] <mesaboogie> secondary*
[20:55] <tomreyn> javaJake: you said you'Re on 19.04 (not 19.10). 19.04 has reached end of life a while ago, you should !eolupgrade to 19.10.
[20:55] <javaJake> tomreyn: whoops, I am 19.10 already. Good catch.
[20:55] <tomreyn> mesaboogie: just uninstall the package.
[20:56] <mesaboogie> tomreyn: well that should do it. =)
[20:56] <Bashing-om> mesaboogie: 'sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober' .
[20:56] <ELQEYNN> Does the word "ubuntu" have some meaning in one of the African tribal languages?
[20:57] <ELQEYNN> It has kind of an African sound.
[20:58] <mesaboogie> Bashing-om: two ways I should have known myself. thanks. I was not thinking KISS. =) I was in the "must be in the grub.cfg" mode.
[20:58] <javaJake> ELQEYNN: https://ubuntu.com/about : "Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning ‘humanity to others’."
[21:00] <Bashing-om> mesaboogie: A ->B -> C . What B does not read, C does not execute :P
[21:00] <mesaboogie> ;)
[21:03] <matsaman> lies, it means three people wearing little clothing smiling
[21:03] <mesaboogie> ha
[21:04] <matsaman> https://i.imgur.com/IQYG5.png
[21:14] <kenperkins> oerheks: I'm a bit confsued; are you saying, by putting a grub on a partition on each device that you can chain load them?
[21:15] <oerheks> indeed, not sure you have UEFI secure boot enabled
[21:17] <kenperkins> I don't believe I do
[21:19] <jezzirolk> im having an issue with my new 20.04 system where the ip address isnt being added from my netplan config on reboot, but once i do a netplan apply all is well
[21:25] <kenperkins> oerheks: do you know what happens when different devices boot partition is in a different format? currently one is a linux fs type ext4 on a guid partitioned device, and the other is an EFI type (fat FS) on a MBR device
[21:32] <ArthurStrong> Hi all. I'm looking for simplest possible real time reverb for Linux. Mic -> reverb -> audio output. What should I try?
[21:36] <mesaboogie> maybe no simple answer
[21:37] <tomreyn> the folks in #ubuntustudio are quite knowledgable about audio
[21:37] <mesaboogie> ArthurStrong: my first instinct is to suggest ardour + FX. which requires JACK
[21:37] <ArthurStrong> mesaboogie: thanks for the idea
[21:37] <ArthurStrong> tomreyn: thanks
[21:39] <tomreyn> ArthurStrong: make sure you point out you're using the default ubuntu flavor there, though, if that's the case.
[21:39] <ArthurStrong> tomreyn: yes, Ubuntu 19
[21:39] <Eickmeyer> !yy.mm
[21:39] <tomreyn> also "there" :)
[21:46] <Deano59> I know this is an odd question, but on Archlinux you can add a parameter to grub that disables the specter exploit so you're system is fast, can this be done on ubuntu?
[21:47] <Deano59> I'd love to test it, if it's there and ready. if not; nvm.
[21:47] <Deano59> again, odd question... ;)
[21:50] <rfm> Deano59, I think it disables the mitigation, not the exploit, but it's a linux kernel option, right?  Arch and Ubuntu basically use the same linux kernel, so it ought to work the same.
[21:52] <Deano59> rfm, thank you. :)
[21:52] <Deano59> and yes, it is. I'll try it.
[21:52] <Deano59> :D
[21:54] <Bashing-om> Deano59: There is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown/MitigationControls .
[21:55] <Deano59> thanks Bashing-om :)
[21:58] <Deano59> this should do it; GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nopti nospectre_v2 nospec_store_bypass_disable"
[21:58] <tomreyn> https://make-linux-fast-again.com/
[21:59] <Deano59> brb, reboot./
[22:01] <Deano59> tomreyn, what the...
[22:03] <oerheks> !cookie | tomreyn
[22:04] <Deano59> tomreyn, will that work on every distro? curious. :)
[22:04] <Deano59> but yes, done it, update grub and rebooted. better, much better! ;P
[22:05] <Deano59> updated*
[22:05] <Deano59> brain not working.
[22:05] <tomreyn> Deano59: it won't work on any kernel version, and not on kernels where this code has been patched out, and probably not on all architectures.
[22:05] <Deano59> sure but ubuntu amd64 it will, right?
[22:05] <tomreyn> from my perspective, you didn't make things better but worse by setting this.
[22:06] <Deano59> why
[22:06] <Deano59> that's your opinion. :)
[22:06] <oerheks> such bootline does not work exactly as it suggests, but oke
[22:07] <Deano59> I just want to "make linux fast again"
[22:08] <tomreyn> consider downgrading openssl, too, older crypto is often faster
[22:09] <tomreyn> (i'm not serious about this suggestion)
[22:10] <Deano59> lol
[22:10] <Deano59> last question, can "snap" run apps faster? some sort of tweak maybe?
[22:11] <Deano59> after installing an update or rebooting, apps that use snap launch slow.
[22:18] <Deano59> gotta go, bye.
[22:18] <curloxide> ok bye
[22:35] <kenperkins> anyone used gdisk to change for MBR to GPT boot partitions?
[23:07] <pavlos> kenperkins: https://superuser.com/questions/1250895/converting-between-gpt-and-mbr-hard-drive-without-losing-data
[23:31] <coreyhuinker> anybody had any luck getting 20.04 to recognize network scanners?
[23:32] <coreyhuinker> I did an upgrade from 19.10 and scanning stopped working.  Brother MFC9130CW, with brscan debs installed
[23:35] <TheFu> Any plans to support /forcefsck ever again?  Checking the OS drive has been a hassle for remote users since that stopped working
[23:55] <asdfgh> hello verybody
[23:56] <asdfgh> i have a strange problem
[23:56] <asdfgh> i cannot boot with latest kernel (ubuntu 18.04)
[23:56] <asdfgh> i must boot with the previous one
[23:56] <asdfgh> why?
[23:57] <asdfgh> how can i reinstall the latest ubuntu 18-04 kernel
[23:57] <asdfgh> ?
[23:58] <leftyfb> asdfgh: what kernel are you running?