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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED6a1f67918879: drop mouseemu, following Ubuntu] Steve Langasek <steve.langasek@canonical.com> committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED6a1f6791887900:32
openboxHello. Are you guys still going to port Openbox to Mir?06:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @HMollerCl [So Ubuntu Studio moves to kde], Wow06:44
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @openbox [<openbox> Hello. Are you guys still going to port Openbox to Mir?], I don't think we are.06:44
lubot<rudrabali> @HMollerCl [So Ubuntu Studio moves to kde], Nice!06:45
openboxtheloudspeaker Ok will you use another wm instead of openbox then?07:29
lubot<princeofclay> (Photo, 576x1280) https://i.imgur.com/imQYQGD.jpg07:43
lubot<princeofclay> (Photo, 1078x1032) https://i.imgur.com/WHccvyN.jpg07:43
lubot<princeofclay> Probably off topic, but don't blame me for bringing super secret information😂07:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Isn't surprising to me07:44
lubot<princeofclay> I was slightly skeptical about Ubuntu snapping the Software Centre, but this is next level really..07:44
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @princeofclay [I mean, even I was slightly skeptical about Ubuntu snapping the Software Centre, …], Why is it next level ? I liked the apt one because of the amount of softwares present in it. Snap has less things.08:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @openbox [<openbox> theloudspeaker Ok will you use another wm instead of openbox then?], We will be sticking with openbox for now.08:15
lubot<rudrabali> hmm, what about the window borders?08:15
lubot<rudrabali> that is one point which I don't like08:15
lubot<rudrabali> only reason why I use KDE mostly08:16
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Window borders are good only imo.08:17
lubot<princeofclay> @The_LoudSpeaker [Why is it next level ? I liked the apt one because of the amount of softwares pr …], Ohk, clarify this for me, because I can be misguided. Does Canonical own some paid propreitary binaries used in the development of Snaps for which publishers need to pay Canonical?  … And if not, then is are there any other 08:18
lubotparts in snaps or snap devel which are propreitary?08:18
lubot<princeofclay> I'm not against anyone paying Canonical. I'm just against for a restrictive format to become universal08:19
lubot<rudrabali> @The_LoudSpeaker [Window borders are good only imo.], outdated08:20
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I don't have the answer to that. But I think @popeydc or @tsimonq2 or @RikMills or wxl: might have the answer.08:20
lubot<princeofclay> Its like using X country jets without knowing what they do against y country by country z. X controls y then.08:20
lubot<princeofclay> @The_LoudSpeaker [I don't have the answer to that. But I think @popeydc or @tsimonq2 or @RikMills …], Ok, Thank You!08:21
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @rudrabali [outdated], Each one to it's own. 🤷🏻‍♂️08:21
lubot<HMollerCl> @rudrabali [outdated], You mean the blue border? That can be modified, the problem for me with that is that dark windows get confused where one ends and the other behind11:34
lubot<HMollerCl> Begins11:34
lubot<rudrabali> referring to the modern one in many :) but I suppose we don't need it, especially for the low-end ones11:35
lubot<rudrabali> gnome, kde, cinnamon etc. have that new flat one11:36
lubot<HMollerCl> You can modify the Openbox theme11:44
lubot<rudrabali> by default?12:07
lubot<kc2bez> By default Openbox has nothing configured.12:09
lubot<princeofclay> Ig these is what you are looking for … https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/obconf … There's can be a case made for it to be installed (and integrated if possible) by default in 20.04.112:09
lubot<kc2bez> @princeofclay [Ig these is what you are looking for … https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/ob …], In Lubuntu? We already have it installed.12:10
lubot<princeofclay> @kc2bez [In Lubuntu? We already have it installed.], Is it? I didn't check. All should be well then12:11
lubot<rudrabali> changing it by default?12:30
lubot<HMollerCl> there are alot of themes, some of theme don't have borders12:31
lubot<HMollerCl> we could make a lubuntu borderless theme12:31
lubot<HMollerCl> the problem is that if you don't use compton for transparency/shadow you get confused when a window enters and the other ends.12:32
lubot<HMollerCl> and w/o borthers is more complicated to "grab" thw window and change size12:34
lubot<HMollerCl> speccialy in the bottom, so we compromise look in favor of usabillity12:34
lubot<HMollerCl> *at the bottom12:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T160: Explore kcmshell5] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16013:56
lubot<lynorian> @HMollerCl [and w/o borthers is more complicated to "grab" thw window and change size], I find borders actually useful for ui and more useable as it is hard to sometimes see the windoww borders.20:38
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lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 You should be able to export Phab data right from S3 using the CLI20:49
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lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 wxl do you see feasible (in an easy way) to compile a plasma kcm_module standalone? See https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16021:07
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] Explore kcmshell5: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T16021:07
wxl@HMollerCl i'm not sure. my general experience is that if plasma's involved, it's nearly impossible to decouple it.21:23
wxlprobably need to ask kde folks21:23
wxland by that i mean upstream kde folks since i'm sure they would have a broader range of experience of people using different components of KDE with other non-KDE components21:23
lubot<HMollerCl> where can I ask them? maybe @RikMills knows21:24
lubot<RikMills> @HMollerCl [where can I ask them? maybe @RikMills knows], Something I saw the other day said that KDE are trying to get rid of the KCMs running via kcmshell5, and just have them accessible through systemsettings21:26
wxlwell that's strange21:28
wxloops wrong channel21:28
lubot<HMollerCl> @RikMills [Something I saw the other day said that KDE are trying to get rid of the KCMs ru …], buu21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> but systemsettings is not plasmoid :D21:30
lubot<RikMills> huh?21:33
lubot<HMollerCl> I can install it w/o installing plasma, it doesn't bring much overhead21:34
lubot<HMollerCl> n21:34
lubot<HMollerCl> sudo apt purge systemsettings              … Reading package lists... Done … Building dependency tree        … Reading state information... Done … The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: …   libkf5activitiesstats1 qml-module-org-kde-kcm … Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. … The followi21:35
lubotng packages will be REMOVED: …   systemsettings* … 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. … After this operation, 1.433 kB disk space will be freed.21:35
lubot<HMollerCl> only 1.433Kb free after purge,21:36
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